I installed Barrina T8 lights from amazon and they are so bright in my space, and now I have 60,000 Lumens. I absolutely love them. If you're looking for a budget option, Barrina T5 or T8 Lights are amazing and available on Amazon!
Cool to see how far we've come in only 5 years. In Nov 2012 a T8 LED tube was $73. I just upgraded my garage with USA made T8 LEDs (Hyperikon brand) for just $9 each, an 88% price drop! Very happy with the results, light is noticeably better than the old fluorescents.
Almost. I used the 5000K version which (IMO) is a better color temp for a shop. www.amazon.com/Hyperikon-Light-equivalent-Crystal-Single/dp/B00OMAIG2S/ref=sr_1_4?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1511926446&sr=1-4&keywords=Hyperikon+T8+LED+5000k
Jay Leno endorses Titan LED Lights! Great Job Brian Hennessy, President and founder of Titan....Our American made lights are being recognized as "Best in Class" in the country! Call for a FREE energy audit soon, while rebates, tax credits and grants are being paid back! This is the year to retrofit; ROI starts day ONE after turning on your new LED Lights as they save 50%-75% more efficient than traditional lighting! "Changing the World One Socket at a Time"
I love that guys like Leno are there on the front lines of the green revolution but they're not talking about meta concepts like global warming but talking about what's most important to most of us: the bottom line.
I'd like to see a video of Jay talking about aftermarket LED bulbs for cars. Dome/trunk/license/door turn signal, tail DRL and even headlight LEDs. That would be fun to watch.
He talked about LED headlights, but said he didn't like the way they stick out from the original bezels; He did however install and recommended wireless LED tail light and turn signal combos for some of his classics that he takes out regularly.
They're also covered with a diffuser. My high school harped on conservation, so it was very dark/dim. BUT, it also helped to pay for the badass field trips. Plus, our windows were MASSIVE so we had a lot of natural light
Overall cost depends on lifetime energy costs - these lights should pay for themselves quite a few years before they need to be replaced. It depends on circumstances, of course, but for Jay's workshop it makes perfect sense.
They make T8 LED replacements that don't require a retrofit or ballast bypass. They actually require the ballast. And only $15 each or so for a 4 footer. Phillips makes them and Home Depot has tons of them. It would be nice to have a 120-277V LED with no ballast required for the same price. It would eliminate the ballast failure possibility. I have installed Titan products and they are excellent.
Many errors in this video! 0:20 Metal Halide/ Sodium HID bulbs are at least as efficient as tubed fluorescent if not a bit better. 2:08 LEDs are not 90% light, 10% heat! Even high end lasers are not that good! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luminous_efficacy , theoretical top is 43.9% light, 56.1% heat for LED. I've heard that BMW and Audi's laser headlight are not more than 20% more energy efficient versus LED headlights and LED headlights are about 4x the efficiency of halogen headlights (at the most), or about 25 watts vs 55 and about twice (usually more like 1.75x) the brightness. Still under 25% light, so still over 75% as heat for LED headlights. For shop lights they may be able to increase efficiency a bit further because there is room for heatsinking and computer controls, but not anywhere above 40% light IMO. 2:50 90,000 hours is highly optimistic. The LEDs would be dimmed significantly by that time but may still function. 3:30 the ballast doesn't excite the gases, it increases the voltage well beyond 120 volts in order for the voltage to allow current to flow through the gases in the tube.
danwat1234 a properly built LED light is easily 40% more efficient then MH or florescent counterpart. a simple heat test would prove that. also the DoE is pretty clear on their stats as to the LED efficiency
But nowhere in my post did I say LED efficiency can't be 40% or greater improvement over HID or fluorescent tubes. CFL cirlq Q bulbs, the best I have seen are 60w equivalent LED bulbs that take 11 watts I think. Versus CFL that is 13w. 40w CFL is 9 watts , led is 7.5 watts. But in time LED should improve farther. His statement at 2:08 is ridiculous.
danwat1234 LED strip lighting is a vastly more efficient design then the screw in bulb types made to retrofit incan lamps and such. this vid is a few years old; a quality 4' LED strip light runs about $40 about $10 more then a flor strip lightw bulbs. the stats of both are printed on the boxes for you to compare.
i didn't know that maybe that is the reason i get a little disorientated when under a fluorescent light with the mirror fittings... i guess you learn something new everyday thanks for the knowledge
this guys knows his stuff! LEDs rock. My bike lights are so bright, so small and so light (pun intended!) We need to keep pushing this tech so the price can continue to come down. LEDs would make all of our buildings and cities so much more efficient.
What type of light set up is best for working under the hood of a car? I want to surprise my husband with a new set up and don’t know where to start. Thanks for the help!
If I had a shop like that, I would install a bunch of suntracker skylights and might not need to turn those LED's until nighttime. Nice video on LED's no less.
The prices are coming down but the big difference is the length of time and LEDs that are a cheap price are cheap made and don’t last and when tested on output aren’t putting out what they say after a period of time. Even regular bulbs have to be checked with a light meter to see if they are still putting out the desired light..greenhouses have to do this or plants begin to decline.
The T8 4-foot LED replacement tube he showed is now available for as little as 10 bucks a pop (on eBay). LED technology is just now starting to become really affordable.
Yeah the one he showed bypasses the existing ballast, a critical stage. Most 4' LED bulb replacements you can find for $10 still run off the EXISTING ballast, so when it fails, so does your new LED light.
I replaced all of my bulbs in my house with LED and I did not see much if any savings on my electric bill and I cannot read as well under LED's... See if they throw "usable" light in the shop Jay. Titan may be a bit better than what they sell at Home Depot where I bought mine.
as of Jan 2017....a flourecent 2 bulb shop lights costs about $30(with the bulbs). a brighter 2 strip LED shop light costs $45. its a no brainer, go with the LED
One thing about fluorescents is that they emit UV light, like the sun. I see the photographs in the background, with fluorescent light they will eventually fade.
To be fair, Brian did give a partial answer to that question - he said as little as 19 months. Offhand I'd say you're looking at somewhere between 2 and 10 years, but I don't have most of the information I'd need to work it out properly.
It's always important to buy quality when it comes to LEDs. It's easy to make LEDs very bright by just driving more current through it, provided you can cool them properly, but if they are driven too far, which cheap makes often do to save on LEDs with lower rated power, longevity will suffer. They won't die immediately, but they do lose brightness over time. A quite short period of time for cheaper (or older) ones. LEDs don't like heat.
I use LEDs in my solar powered home & will be using LEDs in a new garage I'm building now. I love them but this guy has the highest prices out there. Shop around because there are some much better deals available.
Why would you need LEDs if you have solar power? If you have enough solar panels and sufficient batteries for storage, do you actually save any money using LEDs?
I like how jay is all strung up on it being American made. Even though all but the actual assembly is made overseas. That's like saying Toyota is American made because they assemble them here in America. "well the trucks at least since they're ASSEMBLY plant is here in San Antonio."
It's amazing that this guy didn't mention that the driver on the LED however produces more heat than any of the other types of lights combined. The driver gets dangerously hot.
The price on ballast bypass tubes have come way down since this video was made. If you buy them in bulk, such as 20 tubes, you can pay as little as $5 per tube.
in a shop like jay's there, it would be more efficient to run those lights from a central DC transformer that distributed say 12v to all those fixtures.....safer too.
I used wood and made T8 led florescent replacement fixtures and lit my 2 car garage with 14 4' bulbs. Excessively bright and only uses 238 Watts. When it was all said and done it only cost me 90 dollars
Until the bulbs fail or need replacement. Very few people will actually realize any savings at all. When the price per bulb drops to $25 or less, then this becomes a money saver - just like CFL bulbs.
i put a cheap walmart 4 foot LED in my motorcycle shop and one does better that 2 fluorescent. but i went 2 and so far i have replace 3 of the 4 in my garage. the 4th one is a pain to get to and i'm old and lazy. so will change it when it quits. plus i'm on a fixed income. and starting in my house as the light goes out or something else i change it to LED. my light bill is dropping slowly.
This may be the future of lighting but very few will bite at $78 per bulb. There may also be a cost involved in eliminating the ballasts in every fixture unless you can do it yourself. First generation CFL's were terrible and some did not last as long as incandescent. The reason people see little difference in their electric bills when switching from incandescent is because of the amount of hours per month they are on compared to larger appliances like heat pumps, electric ovens & water heaters
led over sodium, insane dollar savings, plus a huge detention on life. led over fluorescence is a good 10% dollar savings. another saving is the amount heat given off. older bulbs spend half or more of their energy in heat, not light. that's how led makes the savings, light instead of heat. the last difference is led is a plastic tube, bendable even. fluorescence is a glass tube with mercury gas inside.
Parts and Labor costs are so steep, the savings will take many years to kick in. The motion sensor would have been a cheaper alternative. Doubt Leno will be around long enough to reap the savings from the electric bill. Not sure why they bother since they have the solar array on the roof.
$73.89 compared to $3.50 plus rewiring and installation - times how many hundreds of lights in the shop? Jay couldn't decide if he should laugh or faint..
Nobody said anything about brand. Don't be an a$$. But you can get an equivalent T8 led bulb from any of a number of eBay sellers. It will turn electricity into light just like these high-dollar units. Item # 182860452955 is one such sale, for a little over $4/piece.
Your the "a$$" first that item number can not be found not that I need to see it... lets define "equivalent" "equal in value, amount, function, meaning, etc." EQUAL, in no way is a $4 POS from ebay equal in lumens per watt, led chip quality, just to state the basics... seeing as I can't find that ebay listing you tell me, titan led t8 is using 17 watts while making (clear) 2608 lumens at 5000k and 2419 at 4000k. I'll bet anything your also trying to send a 6500k POS blue led that no one wants... i mean the cheaper one they sell is 18 watts at 2360 (clear) and 2104 (diffused). So by all means please what what kind of "a$$" I am an let me know the specs of that awesome ebay $4 t8. Also let me know what kinda LED's its using... cree, bridgelux, lumileds, etc... I just got a bunch of t12 ones but I could use some f40 t8 replacements and to get something equivalent for $4 each... what a steal (rofl). Go back to school kid. "It will turn electricity into light just like these high-dollar units." do please post that lumen per watt numbers or w/e lumens and wattage (since I did not do the math to get LPW) it they aint as good... it aint turning that electricity into light just like those high-dollar units...
What I have learned from former Titan employees in that the Titan systems are walking the "Made in the USA" loop holes lines and are really just china made lights being assembled here in the USA. That's better than not, but this is truly China made and not what we really want. Their 90, 000hour ratings are the same long life ratings all LEDs earn based upon tests that are too easy to pass and look great on paper. I remind folks that the CFLs and other fluorescent technology we are seeking to replaced still come in packages that say they will last 7-10 years. LEDs in this same style test methodology get to say "lasts 20 years". The industry's standards are just too easy to pass making it very hard to see what makes a truly good LEDs. To see what makes a better LED one must look much deeper than what Jay and this paid for advertisement by Titan want to get into. You will need to Replace these Titans LEDs in 3-5 years, and that's based upon how the laws of physics do work in this lighting technology. They are running their LEDs way too hot at their Tj / Junction which you can see in a ul-1598 "insitu" test. To stop or even slow the LED droop in these and all other "light loss factored" LEDs and get the 20 years folks are expecting you need to do this different. Planned obsolescence LEDs are what you are seeing in the mainstream and from the big companies and little start ups like Titan. Easy to assemble systems, packaged in easy to close companies that haven't been around as long as their limited warranties claim. They are missing the mark and robbing folks of the greater potential LEDs do have when defined correctly. Tim Gravert
New T8 T5 lamps have super efficient lamps, with similar extreme long life...metal halide sucks, always have, glare, horrible color..LED is the next big thing for 20 years, until........LED is lot smaller package and light weight, all good
+Tim Gravert Mostly true. They must be under-driving the LEDs to get a 90,000 hour life which is entirely achievable. The cheapest Chinese LED lights do fail quickly (mostly from heat management, no binning, and corrosion issues, but this can't possibly have them a 90,000 hours which is BTW the point where output diminishes below 70%
The 90,000hours "ratings" have been created in perfect laboratory conditions. To this day the hottest ambient air temp we are allowed to test in is 25c which is only 77f. This is too easy. The issue is compounded by your underdriving argument. We have no light loss throughout all of these mainstream lighting industry tests. This is made moot thought because everything the IESNA created is only accurate +-10% as they defined things. We have a set of industry leaders telling us the best way to find what we are looking for is to drill at 5'. They know we will not find anything as long as we keep listening.
I installed Barrina T8 lights from amazon and they are so bright in my space, and now I have 60,000 Lumens. I absolutely love them. If you're looking for a budget option, Barrina T5 or T8 Lights are amazing and available on Amazon!
Cool to see how far we've come in only 5 years. In Nov 2012 a T8 LED tube was $73. I just upgraded my garage with USA made T8 LEDs (Hyperikon brand) for just $9 each, an 88% price drop! Very happy with the results, light is noticeably better than the old fluorescents.
These?
www.amazon.com/Hyperikon-equivalent-Daylight-Single-Ended-Lighting/dp/B00NXBMDEY
Almost. I used the 5000K version which (IMO) is a better color temp for a shop. www.amazon.com/Hyperikon-Light-equivalent-Crystal-Single/dp/B00OMAIG2S/ref=sr_1_4?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1511926446&sr=1-4&keywords=Hyperikon+T8+LED+5000k
Jay Leno endorses Titan LED Lights! Great Job Brian Hennessy, President and founder of Titan....Our American made lights are being recognized as "Best in Class" in the country! Call for a FREE energy audit soon, while rebates, tax credits and grants are being paid back! This is the year to retrofit; ROI starts day ONE after turning on your new LED Lights as they save 50%-75% more efficient than traditional lighting! "Changing the World One Socket at a Time"
I love that guys like Leno are there on the front lines of the green revolution but they're not talking about meta concepts like global warming but talking about what's most important to most of us: the bottom line.
Our ActiveLED lights have proven our 10 year no light loss warranty as in Nov 2016. Now we are running these on solar power. 100% efficient.
I'd like to see a video of Jay talking about aftermarket LED bulbs for cars. Dome/trunk/license/door turn signal, tail DRL and even headlight LEDs. That would be fun to watch.
He talked about LED headlights, but said he didn't like the way they stick out from the original bezels; He did however install and recommended wireless LED tail light and turn signal combos for some of his classics that he takes out regularly.
@@Chickhunters is this in a video could you give a link? Thanks
@@danwat1234 several videos can't remember off the top, but skip to 4:00 mins in this one ruclips.net/video/FzO1KnkQGts/видео.html
Jay your the best. AMERICA needs you again.
They're also covered with a diffuser.
My high school harped on conservation, so it was very dark/dim. BUT, it also helped to pay for the badass field trips. Plus, our windows were MASSIVE so we had a lot of natural light
Thanks, I'm an Electrical Estimator in the metro Phoenix Az. area, and this video was simple and too the point on LED Lighting.
Overall cost depends on lifetime energy costs - these lights should pay for themselves quite a few years before they need to be replaced. It depends on circumstances, of course, but for Jay's workshop it makes perfect sense.
Great explanation for what an LED is.
That 70 dollar 4 foot LED tube in 2012 is now well under 10.00. No reason any more not to make the switch
and I thank people like Jay for paying the exorbitant early adopter prices.
just bought 6 bulbs for the garage at wallyworld for less than $15.oo
I liked watching the guy in the background eating his lunch on camera.
Heh! I caught that, chicken and a movie.
They make T8 LED replacements that don't require a retrofit or ballast bypass. They actually require the ballast. And only $15 each or so for a 4 footer. Phillips makes them and Home Depot has tons of them.
It would be nice to have a 120-277V LED with no ballast required for the same price. It would eliminate the ballast failure possibility.
I have installed Titan products and they are excellent.
I already replace the lights in the shop for a led and they look great but I bought the 20 dlls Chinese 4ft t8 I recommend you upgrade too
Many errors in this video!
0:20 Metal Halide/ Sodium HID bulbs are at least as efficient as tubed fluorescent if not a bit better.
2:08 LEDs are not 90% light, 10% heat! Even high end lasers are not that good! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luminous_efficacy , theoretical top is 43.9% light, 56.1% heat for LED.
I've heard that BMW and Audi's laser headlight are not more than 20% more energy efficient versus LED headlights and LED headlights are about 4x the efficiency of halogen headlights (at the most), or about 25 watts vs 55 and about twice (usually more like 1.75x) the brightness. Still under 25% light, so still over 75% as heat for LED headlights.
For shop lights they may be able to increase efficiency a bit further because there is room for heatsinking and computer controls, but not anywhere above 40% light IMO.
2:50 90,000 hours is highly optimistic. The LEDs would be dimmed significantly by that time but may still function.
3:30 the ballast doesn't excite the gases, it increases the voltage well beyond 120 volts in order for the voltage to allow current to flow through the gases in the tube.
wow you're so wrong on so many fronts.
Elaborate?
danwat1234
a properly built LED light is easily 40% more efficient then MH or florescent counterpart. a simple heat test would prove that. also the DoE is pretty clear on their stats as to the LED efficiency
But nowhere in my post did I say LED efficiency can't be 40% or greater improvement over HID or fluorescent tubes. CFL cirlq Q bulbs, the best I have seen are 60w equivalent LED bulbs that take 11 watts I think. Versus CFL that is 13w.
40w CFL is 9 watts , led is 7.5 watts. But in time LED should improve farther.
His statement at 2:08 is ridiculous.
danwat1234
LED strip lighting is a vastly more efficient design then the screw in bulb types made to retrofit incan lamps and such. this vid is a few years old; a quality 4' LED strip light runs about $40 about $10 more then a flor strip lightw bulbs. the stats of both are printed on the boxes for you to compare.
Yo when I clicked this; I did not expect to see Jay get bent over.
i didn't know that maybe that is the reason i get a little disorientated when under a fluorescent light with the mirror fittings... i guess you learn something new everyday thanks for the knowledge
this guys knows his stuff! LEDs rock. My bike lights are so bright, so small and so light (pun intended!) We need to keep pushing this tech so the price can continue to come down. LEDs would make all of our buildings and cities so much more efficient.
I already liked Jay but he goes up a notch for promoting sustainability. Please do more products on sustainability that are relevant to your show.
What type of light set up is best for working under the hood of a car? I want to surprise my husband with a new set up and don’t know where to start. Thanks for the help!
Jay supporting American made. Thanks Jay!!!
American Innovation and nice cars. Love seeing things like this.
Lets stand in the shot and eat chicken. 1:57
LMFAO
i would love to see your solar system in your shop. nice to see the new products .
I am sure Jay gets everything free the first time in videos like this. Think about all the things, welders, printers,,, on and on.
If I had a shop like that, I would install a bunch of suntracker skylights and might not need to turn those LED's until nighttime. Nice video on LED's no less.
2:38 The undiscribible satisfation in the man's face!!
I caught that!
The timing on "He`s a bright guy." was worth the 6:45 alone.
Jay, can you also do one one LED headlights as well, and maybe a led versus hid xenons. thanks
The prices are coming down but the big difference is the length of time and LEDs that are a cheap price are cheap made and don’t last and when tested on output aren’t putting out what they say after a period of time. Even regular bulbs have to be checked with a light meter to see if they are still putting out the desired light..greenhouses have to do this or plants begin to decline.
The T8 4-foot LED replacement tube he showed is now available for as little as 10 bucks a pop (on eBay). LED technology is just now starting to become really affordable.
Is that from titan led or china? ......oh that's right, china
Yeah the one he showed bypasses the existing ballast, a critical stage. Most 4' LED bulb replacements you can find for $10 still run off the EXISTING ballast, so when it fails, so does your new LED light.
very interested in purchasing ...
the guy eating at 1:58 hahahaha
I hope he still has his job.
At least he wasn't playing Pokemon GO.
lmao thanks to him I got hungry
Jay, did you script that?
Jay for president.
I replaced all of my bulbs in my house with LED and I did not see much if any savings on my electric bill and I cannot read as well under LED's... See if they throw "usable" light in the shop Jay. Titan may be a bit better than what they sell at Home Depot where I bought mine.
You lost me at 4:05. Who's going to pay $73.00 for one tube; unless you're rich like Jay Leno?!?
this video is two years old and the light have come down a lot now to where the home owner can buy them. Have a look on ebay.
good to know; thanks!
End of 2018, T8 LED replacement bulbs can be had for around $60-80/case of 10.
I just installed four 8' led in my garage for 56.00.
8 ft ballast bypass fa8 bulbs are only around $14
This guy knows his stuff. Sounds a lot smarter than those damn eBay sellers with LED replacements.
nice lights. But what is the vehicle right behind you?
as of Jan 2017....a flourecent 2 bulb shop lights costs about $30(with the bulbs). a brighter 2 strip LED shop light costs $45. its a no brainer, go with the LED
Pus with they do burn out , which will happen. Proper disposal isn't in your garbage can.
One thing about fluorescents is that they emit UV light, like the sun. I see the photographs in the background, with fluorescent light they will eventually fade.
That light that h3 said was $73 seems to b3 about what I got six of off Amazon. Could be wrong about that but wow did they up m6 garage!
To be fair, Brian did give a partial answer to that question - he said as little as 19 months.
Offhand I'd say you're looking at somewhere between 2 and 10 years, but I don't have most of the information I'd need to work it out properly.
The lights look great in there. I wish I'd looked closer during my tour. LEDs are great.
at 3:04 any one ever seen a cord like that? I have needed something that will plug in to a LED t8 like that for years!
It's always important to buy quality when it comes to LEDs. It's easy to make LEDs very bright by just driving more current through it, provided you can cool them properly, but if they are driven too far, which cheap makes often do to save on LEDs with lower rated power, longevity will suffer. They won't die immediately, but they do lose brightness over time. A quite short period of time for cheaper (or older) ones. LEDs don't like heat.
How are the LEDs in cold temperatures?
I use LEDs in my solar powered home & will be using LEDs in a new garage I'm building now. I love them but this guy has the highest prices out there. Shop around because there are some much better deals available.
Why would you need LEDs if you have solar power? If you have enough solar panels and sufficient batteries for storage, do you actually save any money using LEDs?
LED are mostly maintenance free and batteries cost money to so LESS lighting load = LESS battery capacity needed. science is a wonderful thing.
This tech is going to be huge in the future, but right now, it's only really useable for the very rich as you saw in this video.
ever heard of 1080P? that looks even better
Good very good choice Jay.....
I like how jay is all strung up on it being American made. Even though all but the actual assembly is made overseas. That's like saying Toyota is American made because they assemble them here in America. "well the trucks at least since they're ASSEMBLY plant is here in San Antonio."
That guy in the background, is the same dude that Jay did the Overhaulin show on. Is he workin off the fantastic Foose nomad he got?
Good info. Thanks Jay
I wondered how Jay was going to pay for that garage LOL Jay Leno's growing 😎🍺
It's amazing that this guy didn't mention that the driver on the LED however produces more heat than any of the other types of lights combined. The driver gets dangerously hot.
+Phantom650 What? the drivers don't get very hot at all, the LED chips can get very hot and they are what needs the heat sink.
The price on ballast bypass tubes have come way down since this video was made. If you buy them in bulk, such as 20 tubes, you can pay as little as $5 per tube.
Some people hate the light CFLs emit. Me too.
LED rules, i had 300w projectors outside, replaced em with 8w leds and i got about the same amount of light :D
Great information! Thank you.
Oh and by the way if you don't know. Philips is made in China. Love the led market they just need to come down in price for them to take off
awsome lights I need some of those for my garage.
For reading there isn't better alternative than lightbulb or halogen lightbulb. It's so natural.
in a shop like jay's there, it would be more efficient to run those lights from a central DC transformer that distributed say 12v to all those fixtures.....safer too.
crabtrap Then he'd have to buy the central driver and possibly upgrade the copper to a larger gauge...too costly.
I used wood and made T8 led florescent replacement fixtures and lit my 2 car garage with 14 4' bulbs. Excessively bright and only uses 238 Watts. When it was all said and done it only cost me 90 dollars
good going sir.
good shit J.
Awesome Jay, im glad your replacing your lights look into getting paid for your solar panels and give back to the city ive heard it happen good job :)
You also forgot to mention that the container with the LEDs weight is much, much lighter than the regular incandescent or halogens bulb too.
Hell ya!! MADE IN AMERICA by AMERICANS for AMERICANS!!! Way to go Jay!!
Does anyone know what that white car in the background is?
Can I listen to a vintage AM Radio in a vintage car or do these lights emit noise like fluorescent lighting making AM Radio unusable?
these lights are new tech, they should go down in price as time goes by
Hes got them fancy lights!
Thanks Jay for all the info & questions.The representative could not sell lettuce to a rabbit!!!!!
Until the bulbs fail or need replacement. Very few people will actually realize any savings at all. When the price per bulb drops to $25 or less, then this becomes a money saver - just like CFL bulbs.
Will LEDs work in cold weather,Like hi output fluorescent?
protonhead1 yes
Jew boy
The ones I just bought said they will start at -4 degree F
Thanks Glenn.
Guy in the back chomping on the chicken wings. LOL 😂
i put a cheap walmart 4 foot LED in my motorcycle shop and one does better that 2 fluorescent. but i went 2 and so far i have replace 3 of the 4 in my garage. the 4th one is a pain to get to and i'm old and lazy. so will change it when it quits. plus i'm on a fixed income. and starting in my house as the light goes out or something else i change it to LED. my light bill is dropping slowly.
When i looked at led bulbs the amp draw is the same as an equivalent cfl bulb at a fifth of the price... Im sticking with cfl's for now...
Nice LED's
This may be the future of lighting but very few will bite at $78 per bulb. There may also be a cost involved in eliminating the ballasts in every fixture unless you can do it yourself. First generation CFL's were terrible and some did not last as long as incandescent. The reason people see little difference in their electric bills when switching from incandescent is because of the amount of hours per month they are on compared to larger appliances like heat pumps, electric ovens & water heaters
led over sodium, insane dollar savings, plus a huge detention on life. led over fluorescence is a good 10% dollar savings. another saving is the amount heat given off. older bulbs spend half or more of their energy in heat, not light. that's how led makes the savings, light instead of heat. the last difference is led is a plastic tube, bendable even. fluorescence is a glass tube with mercury gas inside.
flouresecnt lights seem to do weird things to peopel! Talkign from experience, makes you stressed and loopy sometiems. great video jay, love LED's
Awesome vid!!
Parts and Labor costs are so steep, the savings will take many years to kick in. The motion sensor would have been a cheaper alternative. Doubt Leno will be around long enough to reap the savings from the electric bill. Not sure why they bother since they have the solar array on the roof.
When did the garage turn into a lamp store?
Been hanging out with Matt and Calvin from Obsessed .....
I should also add that at 8 hours of use a day, the LED tubes could last up to 25 years!
I have all CFLs in my house, we noticed about a $30 a month savings!
Actually, they did show the LEDs installed. He replaced the fluorescent tubes behind them with LED tubes.
That's the way to do it
nice video,thank you
A lot of led makers don't put in electronics to stop flickering.
I would like to see that Healey in the background please
Thanks. Didn't mean to be rude toward Jay. I know Jay has plenty on his plate.
dewd eating a chicken leg in the background @ the 2;00 mark = funny ;)
$73.89 compared to $3.50 plus rewiring and installation -
times how many hundreds of lights in the shop?
Jay couldn't decide if he should laugh or faint..
haha I agree, the tech will become cheaper over time maybe it will be more comparable in 10 years time.
It already has. You can get these now on Amazon or eBay for ONE TENTH of the $73.89 he mentioned five years ago!
oh do tell us where you are getting that brand led for 7.38...
Nobody said anything about brand. Don't be an a$$.
But you can get an equivalent T8 led bulb from any of a number of eBay sellers.
It will turn electricity into light just like these high-dollar units.
Item # 182860452955 is one such sale, for a little over $4/piece.
Your the "a$$" first that item number can not be found not that I need to see it... lets define "equivalent" "equal in value, amount, function, meaning, etc." EQUAL, in no way is a $4 POS from ebay equal in lumens per watt, led chip quality, just to state the basics... seeing as I can't find that ebay listing you tell me, titan led t8 is using 17 watts while making (clear) 2608 lumens at 5000k and 2419 at 4000k. I'll bet anything your also trying to send a 6500k POS blue led that no one wants... i mean the cheaper one they sell is 18 watts at 2360 (clear) and 2104 (diffused). So by all means please what what kind of "a$$" I am an let me know the specs of that awesome ebay $4 t8. Also let me know what kinda LED's its using... cree, bridgelux, lumileds, etc... I just got a bunch of t12 ones but I could use some f40 t8 replacements and to get something equivalent for $4 each... what a steal (rofl). Go back to school kid.
"It will turn electricity into light just like these high-dollar units." do please post that lumen per watt numbers or w/e lumens and wattage (since I did not do the math to get LPW) it they aint as good... it aint turning that electricity into light just like those high-dollar units...
What I have learned from former Titan employees in that the Titan systems are walking the "Made in the USA" loop holes lines and are really just china made lights being assembled here in the USA. That's better than not, but this is truly China made and not what we really want. Their 90, 000hour ratings are the same long life ratings all LEDs earn based upon tests that are too easy to pass and look great on paper. I remind folks that the CFLs and other fluorescent technology we are seeking to replaced still come in packages that say they will last 7-10 years. LEDs in this same style test methodology get to say "lasts 20 years". The industry's standards are just too easy to pass making it very hard to see what makes a truly good LEDs. To see what makes a better LED one must look much deeper than what Jay and this paid for advertisement by Titan want to get into. You will need to Replace these Titans LEDs in 3-5 years, and that's based upon how the laws of physics do work in this lighting technology. They are running their LEDs way too hot at their Tj / Junction which you can see in a ul-1598 "insitu" test. To stop or even slow the LED droop in these and all other "light loss factored" LEDs and get the 20 years folks are expecting you need to do this different. Planned obsolescence LEDs are what you are seeing in the mainstream and from the big companies and little start ups like Titan. Easy to assemble systems, packaged in easy to close companies that haven't been around as long as their limited warranties claim. They are missing the mark and robbing folks of the greater potential LEDs do have when defined correctly. Tim Gravert
New T8 T5 lamps have super efficient lamps, with similar extreme long life...metal halide sucks, always have, glare, horrible color..LED is the next big thing for 20 years, until........LED is lot smaller package and light weight, all good
+Tim Gravert Mostly true. They must be under-driving the LEDs to get a 90,000 hour life which is entirely achievable. The cheapest Chinese LED lights do fail quickly (mostly from heat management, no binning, and corrosion issues, but this can't possibly have them a 90,000 hours which is BTW the point where output diminishes below 70%
The 90,000hours "ratings" have been created in perfect laboratory conditions. To this day the hottest ambient air temp we are allowed to test in is 25c which is only 77f. This is too easy. The issue is compounded by your underdriving argument. We have no light loss throughout all of these mainstream lighting industry tests. This is made moot thought because everything the IESNA created is only accurate +-10% as they defined things. We have a set of industry leaders telling us the best way to find what we are looking for is to drill at 5'. They know we will not find anything as long as we keep listening.
70% is another point to this.It's not applicable for solid state electronics.
+Tim Gravert 41F, that's bullshit for a test. It must be 140F in the ceilings of most factory floors in the summer. Way to sway the results Titan...
Wow! LED’S have really come down in price since this video was made six years ago.