Runaway! Flying Without A Pilot
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- Опубликовано: 30 мар 2024
- I came across the first story whilst researching Lympne aerodrome; it seemed too good not to tell.
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5:08 - " ... a little harsh, maybe ..." Haaaahaha!hahaha!!
Brilliant channel :-) Keep 'em coming!
I worked for forty two years in an airline ops office with 270 degree views of the tarmac. My wife was cabin crew for a few years. Between us we have seen enough airport antics to really appreciate your beautifully presented, wonderfully paced video. Thank you so much... Liked and Subscribed.
Thank you, more on the way. Making these films is an enjoyable hobby that's also very portable; most are made on hotel layovers. I used to complain that I had too much idle time; now there's never enough!
My student had a nice Taylorcraft and I taught him that hand- propping was a 2-person job. Before one flight I was called away and returned to find him sitting inside with engine running. I reminded him not to start it solo and eventually signed him off. Months later I heard that he lost it after a solo start and it crashed into a hangar. I kicked myself for not having been stern enough!
Interesting, I hadn't heard of Auster, who built on the Taylorcraft design.
A pair of chocks generally saves the day.
Many thanks for your present at Easter time as we look forward to the season’s flying
Let’s hope for some good weather 🤞🏻
And so owning Piper Cub with a dash -8 manually hand prop AC … I Always tie the tail !
And have mounted a small sail boat piece of spinnaker pole hardware to the tail…
One light pull of the 3/16” cord running from the rear seat aft, releases it readily …
Simple, easy, inexpensive, light in weight, and actually legal, as I have asked directly. 🙂
All the Dash-8 aircraft I used to fly had AC but didn't need hand starting.
Wonderful stories, well told with great photos. Thank you.
Thank you such a kind comment 🙂
BA Swallow was a German design which I believe was called a Klem? As a boy I often watched Don Ellis fly his Swallow at Sandown Airfield, Isle of Wight.
Yes, it was a Klemm design.
Brilliant !!!
Thanks 😀
Loved the phone call (pipe gives era)
It was the correct phone number too.
On 8th September 2006 Luton Minor G-AYSK was taxying out at Barton airfield, Manchester, when the engine stopped. The pilot got out and hand-swung it. it started and set off without the pilot, who hung onto a wing strut so it went round in circles. Eventually he had to let go and the aircraft took off, and stalled and crashed onto an open part of the aerodrome. It was initially written off, but has since been repaired and is now flying again.
Ah yes, I remember that runaway but didn’t realise it flew.
@@FlyingForFunTrecanair Not for long!
How so?
Late 80s near RAF Guttersloh in West Germany a French pilot in a Mirage had an electrical failure and ejected. The aircraft continued flying around in circles for a time getting closer to the town of Guttersloh. When the fuel ran out the aircraft clglided to a landing in a field. The French figured that they could repair it easily. When it arived at the main gate of the RAF base, it wouldn't fit through so 6 feet was cut off each wing, and French men crying.
Really? That’s delightful! Anything to make a Frenchman cry 🤣
The RAAF’s response was a bit of an overreaction. In such a big lightly populated place I can’t imagine it would have done much harm to let it glide down after running out of fuel.
Yes indeed. The aircraft was slowly drifting out to sea anyway and the shooting didn’t start until the thing was clear of the city. I suppose it was an opportunity for a bit of sport?
@@FlyingForFunTrecanair : In hindsight, they didn't exactly demonstrate the competent efficiency the taxpayers might want to see from people charged with defending their shores!
My Experimental building fashion is to build Electric starter for each and every aeromotor that I build just for safety. But once starter was broken and that immediately caused a prop write off damage. So that teached to me if something is broke in the plane fix it before next flight despite it is not reguired during the flight it self litteraly.
Free flight is the most fun generally.
That’s hilarious! 🤣🤣
Blimey what a good post.
I had a similar experience although ground based, with a Daimler Conquest Century. Starting on the crank handle, pre-select gearbox in third (hadn't un-clutched)... It ran me over the bonnet and took off accelerating with me running behind for a hundred yards or so, the poor old thing crashed through a bollard, became briefly airborne, bounced off a building, became airborne a second time and landed on the back of another of my cars. Very lucky that no one was about. Big lessons learned that day... Indeed.
My bodged-up ancient ride on mower tried to run me over when I started it in gear!
Who'd have thought the Auster would prove so incredibly difficult to shoot down! 😂
I suppose it’s easy to miss?!
@@FlyingForFunTrecanair Thank heavens the Seafurys got it, what next? Surface to air missiles?
Interesting as always!
Wow, what stories. I wonder what the legal consequences would be if it happened today? Many thanks for sharing.
In the 1960s a Druine Turbulent became airborne during a starting procedure at Masterson New Zealand and left an impression of its spinner about 10 feet above ground level on a hangar door
That’s funny!
I have a Druine D.3 Turbulent. When I prop it to start, I ALWAYS have it DOUBLE restrained- I chock it, but I ALSO have a tail hook that can be released from the cockpit after boarding.
I leave the chocks in place until the engine is warmed and running smoothly; when the engine is cold, it rocks on it's gear and can wiggle itself right out of the chocks..
Only when it's warm and idling at very low power do I pull the chocks and get into the cockpit.
When I'm fully settled and strapped in, I reach over my left shoulder and pull the ring that yanks the cable opening the hook and taxi away.
The hook is a scaled-down glider tow hook; the cable is .016" model airplane stranded controlline wire, and the entire installation weighs less than 3 QUARTERS.
There is NO EXCUSE for anyone to use ONLY chocks. An accidental start at high power will ruin someone's day.
@@craigwall9536 I only use chocks with the Aeronca C3. The tail is heavy, unlike the Turbulent, and there's no tendency for it to lift. However, I admire your method and it's good to do the same thing every time. The worst hazard (in my opinion) is distraction, especially if the thing doesn't start easily.
@@FlyingForFunTrecanair Well, you're right about the Turb having a very light tail; the main gear is mounted on the main spar and swept forward but it's still too far aft...but then the original design had no brakes. When larger engines were used, there were a lot of noseovers. The French added toe-in to make it slow down, but when Bud Evans designed the Turbulent inspired "Volksplane", he mounted the gear on the fuselage and got the wheels almost 1 foot farther forward.
But I don't depend on chocks alone in this case MAINLY because of the tendency the airplane has due to the spring struts that allow it to rock when initially running at even a very low power setting. It will just rock against the chocks and work them until they turn 90 degrees and the tires then slip past. You just can't turn your back on it.
Safety device , Electric starter .
A pair of chocks would do.
My word that was a treat for Easter Sunday morning. Lessons learned? whilst Hand Propping is not performed often now days one can still get it wrong.
Another "Gotcha" I was taught was listen for the Impulse Mag making its characteristic sound, if it doesn't a tap with a Hammer Shaft often sorts it.
Real aeroplanes are always hand started!
The Stampe at Goodwood was G-BEPC which was a Bodmin resident for years, before being sold to Andy Foan at Dunkeswell, where it was known to hit a cow when had an engine failure. Believe the Australian Auster, was encountered by a Wirraway with a chap on a Bren Gun, before despatched into the sea.
The Wirraway is mentioned; you must have fallen asleep by then 🤣
More than one airplane has met its demise as a runaway, I know of two friends that were involved in ground mishaps where the plane got away. Luckily the sticks were tied back and they never took off although one ran into the side of another plane destroying it.
Oh yes, there's plenty more incidents where the runaway ate another aircraft.
...was a merchant banker! Really?
I believe so, the tactful answer 🤣
What a waste. Why not lower someone, barnstormer, to grab the seat?
Anyone brave enough to do that would have testicles too large to fit in the seat!
It may be because barnstormers were a little thin on the ground in rural Australia? Let's face it, humans of any sort were thin on the ground in rural Australia! 😊