This video is a bit later than expected, I was hoping to get it out last month. I have fallen a bit behind due to work and the pace of events in the first half of 1921, it's already meant that I have missed major events like the burning of Cork and I haven't been able to cover events in Ulster at all. I'm going to keep putting out videos in the current format until the anniversary of the Truce and then I'll take a short break to assess how to handle the Civil War. Thanks as always for the support!
Take your time, its better that the episodes retain their quality rather than speed of release. Was very interesting to see someone talk about the interactions between Collins and Brugha that isnt just 'Brugha was a nutter who was jealous and Collins was right at every turn'. Cant wait to see you cover things moving forward.
A lot of times these interpersonal conflicts are not the result of different temperaments but, rather, similar ones. It seems to me that that was the case between Mícheál Ó Coileáin and Cathal Brugha.
What is the reference to Collins leaving a meeting crying about? This is the 2 nd video I've heard you make reference to this but i don't know what this relates to. I'm not trolling, just genuinely curious. Great content by the way. Amazing channel.
Brugha accused Collins of misappropriating funds meant for weapons purchases. A meeting was held to try and sort out things between them but Brugha went on the attack, much like he did during the Treaty Debates. Brugha is said to have refused to shake hands with him and Collins, who was under a lot of stress at this stage, is said to have left the meeting in tears after facing Brugha's personal attacks.
I'm not sure of the reasoning behind the comments at the end intimating if Collins lived his dictatorial manner might have lead him in a certain way. For a man that died in 22 August 1922 and had never shown any interest in the events in Germany after the Great War this is some stretch.
You might be interested to read "Addressing the Dictatorship" in "Myth and the Irish State" by John M. Regan or Google "Michael Collins: The Dictator?" by John Dorney. I'll be addressing the arguments for and against next year. The suggestion by some historians (countered by others) that Collins had already established a dictatorship on his death is interesting and worth examining. I'll put forward as much info as I can and let people make up their own minds or reject it out of hand if there is no solid evidence.
Michael Collins doesn't get enough respect for his achievements in Irish history. It took over 70 years after his death and the advances of technology(and with that the easy access of information) for him to get anywhere near the level of respect he should have. How many books were written about Collins in the 40 years after his death, I believe the answer is one! Why is there no memorial or street named after him!? Instead of talking about what might have been with Collins and a potential dictatorship I would be alot more interested in a deep analysis of De Valera's 50 years in(and sometimes out) of power post War of Independence. How much the country stalled under his leadership and how his refusal to move aside set back Sean Lamass and the great things he done for our country, and how De Valera proped up the Catholic Church and made them the morally controlling power in the country for the next 70 years! Some man he was!👍
Dev could have prevented 'this issue but as always he sat on the fence and used his favourite weapon, divide and conquer. And as history has shown it served him well as all the strong leaders who shed blood and did the dirty work to achieve Irish freedom all perished while he who sat out most of the War of Independence in the USA lived a long soft safe life as a cute politician.
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This video is a bit later than expected, I was hoping to get it out last month. I have fallen a bit behind due to work and the pace of events in the first half of 1921, it's already meant that I have missed major events like the burning of Cork and I haven't been able to cover events in Ulster at all. I'm going to keep putting out videos in the current format until the anniversary of the Truce and then I'll take a short break to assess how to handle the Civil War. Thanks as always for the support!
No stress man, we appreciate your work 😊
Take your time, its better that the episodes retain their quality rather than speed of release. Was very interesting to see someone talk about the interactions between Collins and Brugha that isnt just 'Brugha was a nutter who was jealous and Collins was right at every turn'. Cant wait to see you cover things moving forward.
Another great video. I love learning more about the war of independence and the civil war.
I have always found the dynamic between these two so fascinating, and it's been great to see more balanced accounts coming out in recent years.
Superb stuff as always
Great series, keep up the good work. None of my relatives ever talked about these matters.
Ireland for the Irish🍀
Read about the exact same thing a few days ago, glad to see another upload
All these great men must be turning in their graves at the state of multiculturalism Ireland today
A lot of times these interpersonal conflicts are not the result of different temperaments but, rather, similar ones. It seems to me that that was the case between Mícheál Ó Coileáin and Cathal Brugha.
100% agree!
What is the reference to Collins leaving a meeting crying about? This is the 2 nd video I've heard you make reference to this but i don't know what this relates to. I'm not trolling, just genuinely curious.
Great content by the way. Amazing channel.
Brugha accused Collins of misappropriating funds meant for weapons purchases. A meeting was held to try and sort out things between them but Brugha went on the attack, much like he did during the Treaty Debates. Brugha is said to have refused to shake hands with him and Collins, who was under a lot of stress at this stage, is said to have left the meeting in tears after facing Brugha's personal attacks.
I'm not sure of the reasoning behind the comments at the end intimating if Collins lived his dictatorial manner might have lead him in a certain way. For a man that died in 22 August 1922 and had never shown any interest in the events in Germany after the Great War this is some stretch.
You might be interested to read "Addressing the Dictatorship" in "Myth and the Irish State" by John M. Regan or Google "Michael Collins: The Dictator?" by John Dorney. I'll be addressing the arguments for and against next year. The suggestion by some historians (countered by others) that Collins had already established a dictatorship on his death is interesting and worth examining. I'll put forward as much info as I can and let people make up their own minds or reject it out of hand if there is no solid evidence.
Michael Collins doesn't get enough respect for his achievements in Irish history. It took over 70 years after his death and the advances of technology(and with that the easy access of information) for him to get anywhere near the level of respect he should have. How many books were written about Collins in the 40 years after his death, I believe the answer is one! Why is there no memorial or street named after him!? Instead of talking about what might have been with Collins and a potential dictatorship I would be alot more interested in a deep analysis of De Valera's 50 years in(and sometimes out) of power post War of Independence. How much the country stalled under his leadership and how his refusal to move aside set back Sean Lamass and the great things he done for our country, and how De Valera proped up the Catholic Church and made them the morally controlling power in the country for the next 70 years! Some man he was!👍
Love the channel im learning so much.
go raibh maith agat ☘
Dev could have prevented 'this issue but as always he sat on the fence and used his favourite weapon, divide and conquer. And as history has shown it served him well as all the strong leaders who shed blood and did the dirty work to achieve Irish freedom all perished while he who sat out most of the War of Independence in the USA lived a long soft safe life as a cute politician.