@alving4 You appear to forget Liverpool twice lost the title to City with Van Dijk by a single point. And they won 97 and 92 points in those two seasons. People can mock Liverpool all they want for coming in 2nd to City those two seasons but both Van Dijk and Liverpool were phenomenal in those two seasons.
@@gustavbrinkel5489 What argument did I make? The Liverpool supporter took a shot at Kyle Walker for no reason so I simply returned it. It's a fact that Walker has had a more successful career than VVD. Who's world class is merely up to opinion.
Im a United fan....Van Dijk is world class. Its not even a debate as much as it pains me to say it. VVD HAS been performing at highest level for 6 years. Makes a contradiction of their video that they discuss it at the beginning 😂
@@geoffreywright9856 yea mate that’s call getting an acl injury n been out for a season come bk a bit rusty then bit by bit got better last season was his best since the acl a lot of players don’t come bk from an acl weather it’s coz of the injury causing problems or mental strenth I’d say that is part of been world class aswell overcoming an injury he did n getting bk to the level of last season also let’s not forget how he was at Southampton for a few seasons plus how good he was before coming to the prem from Celtic a missive step up I know but was one of the best in that league
@@l-x- His record is impressive but where and when you get them goals also matter as well. For whatever reason that hasn’t translated to Norway qualifying for the last 2 tournaments. And not blaming it all on him but when I see worse players with arguably lesser nations get the job done at some point I have to start asking you to do it also.
Cundy has a big gripe with vvd. He forgets that John Terry and rio defended in a time when teams played with a deeper line. Defenders today have to be ballers aswell as defenders
Cundy's just a bitter, jealous chelsea fanboy. Van Dijk's winner for a Liverpool second xi against Chelsea's billion pound bottlers must have really hurt him.
He hates scousers and Liverpool in particular, it's a good job he's an absolute fool, scumbag Chelsea fan so absolutely nobody respects a word he says.
Arsenal fan here, Van Dijk is the best centre back in PL history. Forget nostalgia, everyone called Terry world class but imagine him in the Liverpool system for the last 6 years with the high line. He'd have got chewed up. Van Dijk absolutely is world class
@@geoffreywright9856 off course rio could get into the Liverpool side, VVD couldn't get into the united side along side rio because vidic was better than VVD
Just saying Liverpool play a high line is ignoring how they also largely played 3 defensive midfielders and how Van Dijk always ran away from challenges and let the other CB step up and take the risks.
How do you honestly say Vvd isn't better than Kompany, Stam etc. when in previous interviews both former players themselves have put Vvd at no.1 on the list of all time CBs in the league. Stam even picked Van Dijk as a partner over Ferdinand and Vidic.
@terryhall7697 na you struggled to read it. By cundys arguments, the only world class players that's ever existed are cr7 Messi, Maradona and Pele. But at the same time cundy would put maguire in as the best cb ever
Cundy's argument that VVD has won only one PL title is shitty and unfair. Liverpool were against the winning machine Man City, in a few seasons got near 100 points but even that wasnt enough. In an average PL season 90+ points guarantees the title, but not in the Pep City era. A very manipulative argument from Cundy.
@@johnkeohane4239 LOL, are you retarded, or is my English not understandable for you? Zola, Hoddle and Kane haven't won the title even once, does it mean they weren't top class?
World class players in the current Liverpool team....Alisson, Vvd and Mo Salah. Cundy holding onto his seat at Talksport by his fingertips. English football is so tribal that most fans of opposing teams won't acknowledge "world class" status of rival players, as the second caller proved. Jamie was the voice of reason here imo.
What a load of nonsense. Van Dijk is clearly in the conversation for being the greatest Premier League CB of all time. In fact I’d say he’s probably had the greatest ONE season of any defender ever in Premier League history, he should have won the Ballon d’Or that year.
'VVD not world class' is an absolute joke statement from Cundy; a vastly poor and below average CB during his career. Clearly doing it to rile Liverpool fans and get a reaction. Ignore Cundy on this. He knows what he's doing and you're all falling for it. VVD is elite, world class and one of the Premier League great CBs. End of.
Candy and the rest of the Chelsea boys of that era were enjoying the West London lifestyle that yours truly enjoyed from infancy. What does he know about world-class? He should read a dictionary.
Calling Van Dijk overatted is the dumbest football argument ever. John Terry may be brilliant, but he played with one of the best defensive midfield setups ever. He played with Essien, Mike, Makelele, and many more strong, defensive midfield. U can't measure with Trophies any good defender in Realmadrid will win tons of Trophies. If VVD isn't worldclass, then none of those defenders u mentioned will ever be.
World class is defined by whether a player would get into any current starting 11 in the world in my view. Virgil van dijk would have got into any team in the world over the last 5 years 100%
He’s been the best defender in the league, arguably the world for years lol. 1 premier league as though he’s not won the cl, 2 league cups, fa cup, cwc, and been to 2 other CL finals. VVD had to defend against Haaland, Kane, Aguero, Saka, etc and been great. Pace, power, passing ability, leadership, composure on the ball, aura, he’s got the lot. He had one off season with injury, but other than the exceptional. Cundy is an idiot
@@etonstrawn9733 back in the day with Henry drogba prime owen prime Torres shearer van nistelrooy players like berkamp prime Rooney, he would be dominated and bullied, I mean he got bullied by Everton's Calvert lewin last year that is poor, the standard off opponents he is facing in the premier league nowadays is poor compared to previous premier league era, Terry better Ferdinand better stam better vidic better kompany better sol Campbell, these players I've mentioned played against better players compared to today's era
Van Dyk is one of the best ever defenders in the PL, and I really dislike Liverpool. Without Van Dyk Liverpool don't win the CL or the PL the past 6 years..these guys are clowns honestly 🤡
This world class debate is a load of rubbish. It’s completely subjective, tribal and pointless. Just leave the old guard as world class and no one else. (R9, CR, LM)
World class is just top 3/4 in their position and have been at the top level do at least 3 years. I’d say the lowest ranking world class player would be someone like jota where he’s able to perform against anyone but maybe still has a bit to prove. Van dijk is arguably above ‘world class’ as he’s the best cb in prem history
Due to being a rent boy its clear he took too many moneyshots to the head..this is what remains washed up used and abused mental midget who shouts for no reason
I have been watching the EPL for more than 40 years, and I have to be honest I've never heard of a Cundy playing for Chelsea or any other club... HE MUST HAVE BEEN SUBSTITUTE CLASS AND NOT EVEN PREMIER LEAGUE CLASS, never mind world class 😂😂😂
i think cundy is confusing ‘world class’ with ‘elite’ - zidane, messi and ronaldo are world class and elite, but it doesn’t mean that anyone who isn’t quite on their level can’t be world class
It's all subjective though isn't it, Van Dijk is an elite defender and is up there with the likes of Maldini, Nesta etc in terms of how good he is at the job he's supposed to do on the pitch in my opinion. He's an elite defender like Zidane is an elite midfielder and Messi and CR7 are elite forwards. Messi is an elite midfielder as well which is mental.
@@SwiftGuyver. 100% all subjective - the way cundy was talking about world class players and mentioning zidane/messi/ronaldo made me think he’s saying “world class” but meaning “elite” - i could be wrong but just seems like his reference points are a bit off imo
Nobody dribbled past VVD for like 70+ games… cundy says he’s only 1 premier league… they’re playing in era where man city is absolutely dominate with arguably the best manager in the world. Cundys a flog with this opinion 😂
hes the definition of irrelevant. cundy will stay anything to stay relevant. hes still mad about the header he scored against chelsea lol. cundy stay mad and jealous bro LMFAO
Van Dijk has been the best CB in the World over the last 6 years, and even at 33 he's one of the top 5. His stats from last season were far better than Saliba's and he's rightly labelled a top class defender and the heir apparent.
So you’ve got the best CB, the best GK, the best RB, the best player in the PL and you had the best manager in the world - to hear you lot talk, and you still only won the league once? 😂
what other defender finished 2nd in the ballon dor 2019 like van dijk (8 points from messi in 1st)? and could have won if penaldog was smart and threw the nations league final
John terry yap stan cant run adapt to modern play play out the back. Those players was shot stoppers in the box. VVD over hyped by rivals then they use titles well SG8 was world class😅😅😅😅 he never had as much as terry. Terry one mans club.
Saying that Guehi had a 'world class tournament' is everything that's wrong with Talksport. He had a good tournament, he was definitely not world class lol
Just because their opinion differs from yours, all of a sudden it's a waste of time listening to them 😂. Delusion is clearly a common disease among fans.
It's not delusion, most people disagree with Cundy when he starts spouting rubbish like this. He's entitled to his opinion, but his opinion is clueless.
Van dijk is a great leader defender but definitely not a goat. People just look at results and not the games...even konate had better season than him but people who don't watch football think van dijk is doing everything when he doesn't really have to do much in most games. He is relatively slow and not the best at tackling but he has great aura which strikes fear into other strikers 😅
VVD is a hybrid of Terry and Rio, best centrehalf ever in Premier League, ask Vincent Kompany and he would tell VVD is the best. According to Cundy Gerrard is no good because he hasnt won a league title.
Only 2 world class strikers in the prem that he had to defend against in the prem - Halaand and Kane...that's it. 2 How many world class strikers did Rio, Terry, Staam, Sol, Kompany, Cole, Evra etc. have to defend against?...Shearer, Henry, Rooney, Drogba, les, Van Nistelrooy. The list goes on. Not to mention other threats like Ronaldo, Lampard, Gerrard, Scholes. Dude, it's not even close. He's a great defender but 1 good season and the level of competition isnt good enough. he's not world class. Period.
@@marklawd91it’s a great point. There used to be players like Wright, Cole, Fowler, Ferdinand & Phillips that could score 20 goals a season every year and still not get picked for England! And that’s just the English players I thought of off the top of my head!
@Heioshi oh yeah, totally. Luckily they only had to face off against Sol, Terry, Rio, Cole, Carvalho, Vidic, Staam etc...But if they had to face off against VVD?! that would have been too much for them to handle 🥵
CAndy is claiming Van Dijk is not world-class? He's being contrary to create a talking point where there is none. Yo CAndy, go to the shop and buy a dictionary and read it.
Kyle Walker world class?🤦😅OMG, typical bull from an English pundit, they think almost every England international is world class and they are very wrong. Last season, after only a few good games, they were calling Mainoo world class.
VVD belongs in the all time top 3-5 PL list for me. If world class = Messi, R7, R9, Zizou, etc. Salah don't belong in that list. He is on the tier below that.
World Class = Can compete at the highest level at any league around the world. Jason is mistaking World Class with Legendary. Messi and Ronaldo are Legendary players. When you're legendary, there's a level of transcending football that you have reached. You become a household name to everyone whether you watch/enjoy football or not. and finally someone gives Van de Ven his flowers. The fastest man in the PL league at 23 as a 6ft 4 DEFENDER and no one talks about it.
You are silly Cundy, VVD's all-round abilty surpasses most if not all defenders. It's his ability to pass, short and long, his heading ability, his pace even after an ACL which ends most players career. Yes he has lost some of his recovery pace, but you ignoring his leadership on the field has well and he has aged well. His intuition will improve as well when he doesn't need that pace anymore. Cundy, you are silly!
Players like Kompany and Stam have both said VVD is the best defender in premier league history. Also, Liverpool won more than 2 world class players. Alisson, Trent, Mo, VVD.
Cundy is just a clown 🤡. No other defender in premier league history can say that for 2 seasons straight no one dribbled past them. VVD is world class and to compare him to van de ven is just ridiculous
If VVD is world class then Nemanja Vidic needs to stop getting hate tbh, done him over stats wise and if you talking about success both helped get CL finals and the trophy but Vidic helped United to a treble of PL trophies and also got player of the year twice, the only thing VVD is better than Vidic is on the ball, playing small passes etc, Vidic also had a goal on him whether it was a left foot banger or a header
Messi Ronaldo Romario Zidane Xavi Iniesta Giggs Scholes are the best players I’ve seen play at Old Trafford - but the finest of all time was George Best
Here's a wild stat. Van Dijk didn't lose a game at Anfield for 3 years.
3 years.
Because he was injured 70% of the 3 years
@@AsapWorldwide007 I mean you're just factually wrong. Troll better.
@@AsapWorldwide007that’s a big fat LIE
Real Madrid😊
Lol... Yeah. Harry Macguer is better. 😂
If Van Dijk isn’t World Class then what exactly constitutes World Class?
He has one good season the others were just average at best . Is that World Class 😂
World Class for Liverpool standards
@@alving4 this sport isn't for you lad.
@alving4
You appear to forget Liverpool twice lost the title to City with Van Dijk by a single point. And they won 97 and 92 points in those two seasons. People can mock Liverpool all they want for coming in 2nd to City those two seasons but both Van Dijk and Liverpool were phenomenal in those two seasons.
@@alving4idiot
Let it go only Liverpool fans think Van Disney is World Class
Honestly it gets boring nowadays with Cundy’s trolling
Completely agree. Needs sacking
No one remembers Jason Cundys career
was he a player? for real?
I bet he played more premier league games than you mate
He said once as a joke he wasn’t a profession footballer and I had no problem with believing him
What was he?
He played for Spurs, Chelsea and Ipswich although injuries ended his career early. Wasnt a bad player , he was just never fit.
Cundy is getting more outrageous than Flabby agbonlahor
If VVD is not a world-class player, then there are no world-class players anymore. U call Walker a world class players but VVD is not. What a joke
If VVD keeps playing another 30 years maybe he can match Walker's trophy cabinet.
@@TP-pq9xx So by your logic, Drinkwater is better than Gerrard. Kalvin Phillips is better than Declan Rice.
Your IQ is probably 12 at best.
@@kevalshah4097 And your IQ is so high that you think Drinkwater has won more trophies than Cole Palmer
@@TP-pq9xx Are there players who aren't top level that have won lots of trophies? If there is, does it make your argument guff?
@@gustavbrinkel5489 What argument did I make? The Liverpool supporter took a shot at Kyle Walker for no reason so I simply returned it. It's a fact that Walker has had a more successful career than VVD. Who's world class is merely up to opinion.
Im a United fan....Van Dijk is world class. Its not even a debate as much as it pains me to say it. VVD HAS been performing at highest level for 6 years. Makes a contradiction of their video that they discuss it at the beginning 😂
Emm not sure about 6 years. There was a drop off in performance.
@geoffreywright9856 but if he was English he would be world class wouldnt he?🙄
@@geoffreywright9856 yea mate that’s call getting an acl injury n been out for a season come bk a bit rusty then bit by bit got better last season was his best since the acl a lot of players don’t come bk from an acl weather it’s coz of the injury causing problems or mental strenth I’d say that is part of been world class aswell overcoming an injury he did n getting bk to the level of last season also let’s not forget how he was at Southampton for a few seasons plus how good he was before coming to the prem from Celtic a missive step up I know but was one of the best in that league
@@geoffreywright9856he’s elite but yes you are right. There was a drop off
@@mrpotato442 nope not with me. I’m one of those who don’t just throw that title to just any player. I don’t subscribe to that thinking fella.
Norway hardly qualifies for any major tournament. Does that make Haaland any less of a world class player?
If vvds not a world class cb haalands not a world class striker. Can't get pocketed by an average cb everytime he faces him and be world class
@@l-x-Well kvaratskhelia done it with Georgia and even got to the round of 16 so there’s no real excuse for haaland and oedegaard
@@l-x- His record is impressive but where and when you get them goals also matter as well. For whatever reason that hasn’t translated to Norway qualifying for the last 2 tournaments. And not blaming it all on him but when I see worse players with arguably lesser nations get the job done at some point I have to start asking you to do it also.
These pratts are unbelievable
Yip haland ain't a world class player, he's just a very clinical goal scorer.
There's still time to delete this ...
So you want the truth to be hidden?
@@marklawd91 shameless
@@marklawd91still sore from Sunday darling?
@Ianwoo720 I am, mate. Wasn't expecting your mum to have such strong kegels. But the swelling has died down now, so should be alright 👍
@@marklawd91 she said you love getting pegged
Cundy has a big gripe with vvd. He forgets that John Terry and rio defended in a time when teams played with a deeper line. Defenders today have to be ballers aswell as defenders
Cundy's just a bitter, jealous chelsea fanboy. Van Dijk's winner for a Liverpool second xi against Chelsea's billion pound bottlers must have really hurt him.
He hates scousers and Liverpool in particular, it's a good job he's an absolute fool, scumbag Chelsea fan so absolutely nobody respects a word he says.
Which requires more one on one defending, we all saw Terrys one on one defending for England 🤷🏾♂️
Exactly what I was thinking, infuriating isn’t it
Arsenal fan here, Van Dijk is the best centre back in PL history. Forget nostalgia, everyone called Terry world class but imagine him in the Liverpool system for the last 6 years with the high line. He'd have got chewed up. Van Dijk absolutely is world class
That's such a funny comment, Terry wouldn't get chewed up because unlike VVD John Terry can actually read the game.
@@Andy-p2u8s I agree with you on the previous comment. VVD is not better than Rio. Rio would fit in that Liverpool side today.
@@geoffreywright9856 off course rio could get into the Liverpool side, VVD couldn't get into the united side along side rio because vidic was better than VVD
Just saying Liverpool play a high line is ignoring how they also largely played 3 defensive midfielders and how Van Dijk always ran away from challenges and let the other CB step up and take the risks.
Haha Van Dijk is levels above Ferdinand and Vidic @user-kg9rt3jh1z
cundy is absolutley clueless,he has no business giving his opinions on radio
How do you honestly say Vvd isn't better than Kompany, Stam etc. when in previous interviews both former players themselves have put Vvd at no.1 on the list of all time CBs in the league. Stam even picked Van Dijk as a partner over Ferdinand and Vidic.
Messi & Ronaldo were not the only world class players of the last era. We can’t confuse world class with goat or legendary status
By this comment your confused 😂😂😂😂😂 wtf
@terryhall7697 na you struggled to read it. By cundys arguments, the only world class players that's ever existed are cr7 Messi, Maradona and Pele.
But at the same time cundy would put maguire in as the best cb ever
@@ashwilliams4959 never struggled, you could have stated it was Cundy who said this.
I couldn’t watch after 30 seconds
There's only one goat and Ronaldo is not it
Cundy's argument that VVD has won only one PL title is shitty and unfair. Liverpool were against the winning machine Man City, in a few seasons got near 100 points but even that wasnt enough. In an average PL season 90+ points guarantees the title, but not in the Pep City era. A very manipulative argument from Cundy.
@@ktom5262 exactly, Shearer is the greatest PL goalscorer.....also 1 league title.
Its true. He one one league
@@johnkeohane4239Scott Carson has 2 champions league winners medals. Buffon has none. Does that make Carson better?
They were against the referees too
@@johnkeohane4239 LOL, are you retarded, or is my English not understandable for you? Zola, Hoddle and Kane haven't won the title even once, does it mean they weren't top class?
World class players in the current Liverpool team....Alisson, Vvd and Mo Salah.
Cundy holding onto his seat at Talksport by his fingertips.
English football is so tribal that most fans of opposing teams won't acknowledge "world class" status of rival players, as the second caller proved.
Jamie was the voice of reason here imo.
Alison cannot play with his feet...great shot stopper that's it.....if he is then DAVID DE GEA defo is
Trent
@@s1dew1nd3r4 bro gets cooked whenever he plays someone world class
@@KingH187de gea was the best itw for a few years 🤦♂️ I guess you think onanas better cause he can trip over his own feet?
Trent is world class. Nobody in football today can hit a pass as well as he can.
What a load of nonsense. Van Dijk is clearly in the conversation for being the greatest Premier League CB of all time.
In fact I’d say he’s probably had the greatest ONE season of any defender ever in Premier League history, he should have won the Ballon d’Or that year.
'VVD not world class' is an absolute joke statement from Cundy; a vastly poor and below average CB during his career. Clearly doing it to rile Liverpool fans and get a reaction. Ignore Cundy on this. He knows what he's doing and you're all falling for it. VVD is elite, world class and one of the Premier League great CBs. End of.
Candy and the rest of the Chelsea boys of that era were enjoying the West London lifestyle that yours truly enjoyed from infancy. What does he know about world-class? He should read a dictionary.
Cundy is just insecure that big Virg has already overtook his boy JT😎
One title?
@@stevenmoore120 Mustafi has a World Cup winners medal, needless argument fella. Watch footy with your eyes, there’s nothing JT has over Virg
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How funny
@@adamantblokeJT levels above VVD
You're completely delusional
Played in a final he's world class😅😂
Djimi Traore
Calling Van Dijk overatted is the dumbest football argument ever. John Terry may be brilliant, but he played with one of the best defensive midfield setups ever. He played with Essien, Mike, Makelele, and many more strong, defensive midfield. U can't measure with Trophies any good defender in Realmadrid will win tons of Trophies. If VVD isn't worldclass, then none of those defenders u mentioned will ever be.
Cundy is a joke not the joker
World class is defined by whether a player would get into any current starting 11 in the world in my view. Virgil van dijk would have got into any team in the world over the last 5 years 100%
He’s been the best defender in the league, arguably the world for years lol. 1 premier league as though he’s not won the cl, 2 league cups, fa cup, cwc, and been to 2 other CL finals.
VVD had to defend against Haaland, Kane, Aguero, Saka, etc and been great. Pace, power, passing ability, leadership, composure on the ball, aura, he’s got the lot. He had one off season with injury, but other than the exceptional. Cundy is an idiot
If Virgil is not world-class, then there are no world-class defenders playing the game
You're right there are no world class defenders compared to back in the day
@@Andy-p2u8s back in what day? Virgil is the best ever PL CB
@@etonstrawn9733 back in the day with Henry drogba prime owen prime Torres shearer van nistelrooy players like berkamp prime Rooney, he would be dominated and bullied, I mean he got bullied by Everton's Calvert lewin last year that is poor, the standard off opponents he is facing in the premier league nowadays is poor compared to previous premier league era, Terry better Ferdinand better stam better vidic better kompany better sol Campbell, these players I've mentioned played against better players compared to today's era
@user-kg9rt3jh1z mate, go and take your apple sauce and horlicks. It's your bed time.
@@user-uu6bi4tn5o 😄😄😄😄
Maldini said he is the best, What does Cundy know. He had no talent himself
Clueless 🤣🤣
Van Dyk is one of the best ever defenders in the PL, and I really dislike Liverpool. Without Van Dyk Liverpool don't win the CL or the PL the past 6 years..these guys are clowns honestly 🤡
A world class player is simply any player who could start for any top team. If VVD isn’t in that category then this JC guy is just dim!
This world class debate is a load of rubbish. It’s completely subjective, tribal and pointless. Just leave the old guard as world class and no one else. (R9, CR, LM)
What a load of ruubish
Jamie's 3 seconds face palm after Cundy spits that nonsense 🤣
If O'Hara's making you look like a muppet, then you're a muppet.
World class is just top 3/4 in their position and have been at the top level do at least 3 years. I’d say the lowest ranking world class player would be someone like jota where he’s able to perform against anyone but maybe still has a bit to prove.
Van dijk is arguably above ‘world class’ as he’s the best cb in prem history
Candy talking absolute rubbish
Due to being a rent boy its clear he took too many moneyshots to the head..this is what remains washed up used and abused mental midget who shouts for no reason
I have been watching the EPL for more than 40 years, and I have to be honest I've never heard of a Cundy playing for Chelsea or any other club...
HE MUST HAVE BEEN SUBSTITUTE CLASS AND NOT EVEN PREMIER LEAGUE CLASS, never mind world class 😂😂😂
Hahahahaha. He played for Spurs and yes, he was substitute class. In the era where it was acceptable for centre backs to be slouches and donkeys.
@@user-uu6bi4tn5o no wonder he cant recognise the ability of better players 🤣🤣
i think cundy is confusing ‘world class’ with ‘elite’ - zidane, messi and ronaldo are world class and elite, but it doesn’t mean that anyone who isn’t quite on their level can’t be world class
It's all subjective though isn't it, Van Dijk is an elite defender and is up there with the likes of Maldini, Nesta etc in terms of how good he is at the job he's supposed to do on the pitch in my opinion. He's an elite defender like Zidane is an elite midfielder and Messi and CR7 are elite forwards. Messi is an elite midfielder as well which is mental.
@@SwiftGuyver. 100% all subjective - the way cundy was talking about world class players and mentioning zidane/messi/ronaldo made me think he’s saying “world class” but meaning “elite” - i could be wrong but just seems like his reference points are a bit off imo
Nobody dribbled past VVD for like 70+ games… cundy says he’s only 1 premier league… they’re playing in era where man city is absolutely dominate with arguably the best manager in the world. Cundys a flog with this opinion 😂
I think Jason had a cheeky ….
He came 2nd in the balon dor by about 20 points and didn’t get dribbled past for 60+ games in a season this his name should be Jason Cunty
If he's not, then nobody is
Cundy having a come down from the marching powder...in bad mood...give him a couple sniffs
It’s just hilarious how he says Zidane then drops the name Ashley Cole.
To say tht VVD is not world class is absolute nonsence man u fan here .
waste of time listening to these 2
Guy who never won a thing thinks playing in a final makes you world class 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 give me peace
Van Dijk a great world class football player.
Great player to watch playing football.
Cundy still in pain from that Cup final I believe....
Just a jealous Chelsea fan who can’t admit he’s better than their best ever
So by this logic KDB isn’t world class🤷🏿♂️why are you giving such people a platform 😂😂
Bang average football Cundy, and his spursy mate. Neither could lace Van Dijks boots
If VVD is not a world class defender who is
hes the definition of irrelevant. cundy will stay anything to stay relevant. hes still mad about the header he scored against chelsea lol. cundy stay mad and jealous bro LMFAO
Micky Van De Ven I cant stop laughing 😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂
Van Dijk is world-class. Even though himself and Kyle-Walker plays different positions and only one can be selected Van Dijk...
Becks is world class played in nearly played in every league
Van Dijk overhyped? and this is coming from a player that never won a single trophy. Shut up.
He’s still jealous coz lampard couldn’t lace Gerrard’s boots, what a bitter man
Cundy is the James Whale of football punditry. Absolute R sole
Cundy obviously don’t know nothing about football 😂
Cundy was overhyped and he was still sh!te! That’s saying something! Keep to your level and talk about yard dogs
Van Dijk has been the best CB in the World over the last 6 years, and even at 33 he's one of the top 5. His stats from last season were far better than Saliba's and he's rightly labelled a top class defender and the heir apparent.
Dream on...well over rated
6 years and no one’s tried to sign him
So you’ve got the best CB, the best GK, the best RB, the best player in the PL and you had the best manager in the world - to hear you lot talk, and you still only won the league once? 😂
what other defender finished 2nd in the ballon dor 2019 like van dijk (8 points from messi in 1st)? and could have won if penaldog was smart and threw the nations league final
@@Chris-oz9qx You need eyes , finishing 5th twice in that 4 years .
No wonder you're mocked
VVD Came 3rd in the Ballon Dor lol nice try Cundy.
He actually came 2nd, but in 2021 Jorginho, yes Jorginho fgs was 3rd 😂
I love Cundy but we only listen to these people for entertainment and laughs not for some profound football opinions.
John terry yap stan cant run adapt to modern play play out the back. Those players was shot stoppers in the box.
VVD over hyped by rivals then they use titles well SG8 was world class😅😅😅😅 he never had as much as terry. Terry one mans club.
Cunty should be sacked for that take Jesus christ.
If Cundy´s 2 brain cells ever meet there will be one hell of a bang and who is he anyway ?
Cundy does have an anti liverpool agenda in fairness i dont pay him any mind
Why is Cundy is stil on the radio when he says dumb stuff like this
I seen terry Ramos Ferdinand all got humiliated by world class players 😂 even best defenders come short against Henry 😂
Cundy the troll
Saying that Guehi had a 'world class tournament' is everything that's wrong with Talksport. He had a good tournament, he was definitely not world class lol
Never heard such an out of touch bad take in my life, talk sport truly has fallen
Jason you know you’re loosing the argument when Jamie is no having not defending a spurs player 😂
Just because their opinion differs from yours, all of a sudden it's a waste of time listening to them 😂. Delusion is clearly a common disease among fans.
It's not delusion, most people disagree with Cundy when he starts spouting rubbish like this. He's entitled to his opinion, but his opinion is clueless.
Van dijk is a great leader defender but definitely not a goat. People just look at results and not the games...even konate had better season than him but people who don't watch football think van dijk is doing everything when he doesn't really have to do much in most games. He is relatively slow and not the best at tackling but he has great aura which strikes fear into other strikers 😅
Vvd was better than ibou last season. Konate barely even played. Quansah play😅ed more games. Vvd is just the goat
Vvd is massively overrated.
You put on the football team you support you might be right about VVD 😂
VVD is a hybrid of Terry and Rio, best centrehalf ever in Premier League, ask Vincent Kompany and he would tell VVD is the best. According to Cundy Gerrard is no good because he hasnt won a league title.
VVD is who every centre back is compared to nowadays as a measure of how good they are. It's true he's not World Class, he's legendary class!!
Only 2 world class strikers in the prem that he had to defend against in the prem - Halaand and Kane...that's it. 2
How many world class strikers did Rio, Terry, Staam, Sol, Kompany, Cole, Evra etc. have to defend against?...Shearer, Henry, Rooney, Drogba, les, Van Nistelrooy. The list goes on. Not to mention other threats like Ronaldo, Lampard, Gerrard, Scholes.
Dude, it's not even close. He's a great defender but 1 good season and the level of competition isnt good enough. he's not world class. Period.
@@marklawd91 and similarly you could argue that the other "world class" strikers didn't have to face off against VVD
@@marklawd91it’s a great point. There used to be players like Wright, Cole, Fowler, Ferdinand & Phillips that could score 20 goals a season every year and still not get picked for England! And that’s just the English players I thought of off the top of my head!
@Heioshi oh yeah, totally. Luckily they only had to face off against Sol, Terry, Rio, Cole, Carvalho, Vidic, Staam etc...But if they had to face off against VVD?! that would have been too much for them to handle 🥵
@Bert-lw1ot yeah, the level of competition in every position was on another level back then. It has dropped massively and continues to drop.
CAndy is claiming Van Dijk is not world-class? He's being contrary to create a talking point where there is none. Yo CAndy, go to the shop and buy a dictionary and read it.
Im 100% with Cundy here..VvD is wayyy overhyped😂
And then you woke up lol
Kyle Walker world class?🤦😅OMG, typical bull from an English pundit, they think almost every England international is world class and they are very wrong. Last season, after only a few good games, they were calling Mainoo world class.
There are people you do not bother arguing with, this man is one. Keeps bringing up a point, once that point is countered, he shifts the table.
He'll say anything for clicks and views.....the slaaag
Cindy said he wouldn’t take neymar over Mount
Ratings are getting lower for his show. This is meant to trigger Liverpool fans and attract dizzy opposition supporters. Clickbait
The debate isn't whether VVD is the best PL CB, it's a question of whether he's world class right now.
VVD belongs in the all time top 3-5 PL list for me. If world class = Messi, R7, R9, Zizou, etc. Salah don't belong in that list. He is on the tier below that.
World Class = Can compete at the highest level at any league around the world. Jason is mistaking World Class with Legendary. Messi and Ronaldo are Legendary players. When you're legendary, there's a level of transcending football that you have reached. You become a household name to everyone whether you watch/enjoy football or not.
and finally someone gives Van de Ven his flowers. The fastest man in the PL league at 23 as a 6ft 4 DEFENDER and no one talks about it.
Not even outrageous, just Cundy simply being controversial for the sake of it
It’s international week which means views are down, let’s say something mad to get views & likes.
It’s not even a debate! VVD is world class. What’s more shocking is Cundy saying Van de Ven is better than VVD..🤦🏾 🤡
I don't know about "World class" but almost every footballing legend says that van Dijk is the best defender in the world in a one-on-one situation.
VVD has only lost 2 Prem Anfield games.
Vidic lost 10 Prem Old Trafford games.
VVD > Vidic
VVD is 100% a World class CB.
You are silly Cundy, VVD's all-round abilty surpasses most if not all defenders. It's his ability to pass, short and long, his heading ability, his pace even after an ACL which ends most players career. Yes he has lost some of his recovery pace, but you ignoring his leadership on the field has well and he has aged well. His intuition will improve as well when he doesn't need that pace anymore. Cundy, you are silly!
Players like Kompany and Stam have both said VVD is the best defender in premier league history. Also, Liverpool won more than 2 world class players. Alisson, Trent, Mo, VVD.
But they are being modest. What else would they say? Lol both easily clear VVD
World class is someone that will walk into most club teams and is a consistent performer at the highest level over a reasonable period of time.
Cundy is just a clown 🤡. No other defender in premier league history can say that for 2 seasons straight no one dribbled past them. VVD is world class and to compare him to van de ven is just ridiculous
If VVD is world class then Nemanja Vidic needs to stop getting hate tbh, done him over stats wise and if you talking about success both helped get CL finals and the trophy but Vidic helped United to a treble of PL trophies and also got player of the year twice, the only thing VVD is better than Vidic is on the ball, playing small passes etc, Vidic also had a goal on him whether it was a left foot banger or a header
Messi Ronaldo Romario Zidane Xavi Iniesta Giggs Scholes are the best players I’ve seen play at Old Trafford - but the finest of all time was George Best
A center back that finished second behind Messi in Balon dor is not World Class. It's hard to take this guy seriously for his trolling