I wish that 30 mm was the new standard. The performance improvement is beyond worth it. I'd love to see how a 30 mm thick Be Quiet or Noctua would perform.
@@joint831 Must be quite a lot since they are ball bearing fans. That also makes the 6 years warranty a good thing because this bearing type is traditionally more prone to failure compared to fluid bearing. Also noisier at low speeds.
My 6 Noctua 140mm fans and NH-D14 from 2014 are still working perfectly for my 13700k. Free socket support from Noctua is incredible. They have survived 3 builds.
I just built a pc. Got a Lian Li galahad AIO with the SL120v1 fans. Had one fan doa. Contacted LIan Li for replacement of fan or whole unit. Customer service sucked so bad trying to get me to run through hoops wasting my time that I returned entire unit to original retailer and went with an Arctic AIO. Bad customer service and proprietary connections for the lose.
Not sure if you need video ideas but it would be nice if there was a 120mm AIO vs 240mm AIO vs Air Cooler comparison for those of us that have to stick with small form factor cases.
You don't need to take it all the way to 3000rpm for good performance. The phanteks t30 will beat the standard Noctua at the same RPM. If you need more headroom, you have the option of going all the way to 3000, but it's not necessary.
@@killerful I agree it's a good fan regardless. Just my opinion that calling 3000 RPM "performance," is a little misleading. Great performance to me is more about efficiency than brute force.
@@killerful For benchmarks, to squeeze that last °C off the components to get those 10 points you are missing in 3DMark :p It's useless otherwise. Most 120mm fans have their sweet spot somewhere in the 1100-1300 rpm range when it comes to performance with tolerable noise. Above that, it's mostly useful when you have a case with shite airflow and need to brute force a trickle of air through a slit in the front panel. but you'd be better off saving money to get a new case.
I use several Silverstone FHP-141 and these fans are next level. They are 140x38mm, I have never seen a fan moving more air than these (except server of course). I got them for 17€ a piece.
I would like to see some manufacturers start making reverse swept fans instead of reverse facing fans, like the middle fans you see in some GPUs. It supposedly helps with turbulence.
3000 RPM isn't a selling point unless they're going into a server in a soundproof room. No one wants a leafblower on their desk regardless of how good the performance is. Anyway, I feel like a lot of these new fans are overhyped because they're only looking a sound levels relative to cooling performance. The issue is that sound levels don't tell the whole story, another major factor is sound profile. What you do is you take two fans and set them to the same CFM, then you measure which one sounds nicer. You'll often find that two fans with the same sound levels can sound radically different, one might have a nice even humming noise while the other has a high pitched screeching noise.
The fan I'm most interested in is the AlphaCool metal fan. Completely a fluke, but looks like it might be incredible. Also, I have a few of the P12 Max, and they're pretty great for the money. Much better than the P12, but not really more expensive.
pc are dead you can do your work on cloud pc . and cloud gaming is mainstream now not pc or console anymore. People are moving to cloud gaming instead of buying a pc or console or laptops. It's the end of hardware market.
@Noob gamer stfu. How do you think all the cloud software is developed? Off of a computer. Physical desktops will always be necessary as laptops will never be as fast. Theybare here to stay no matter their current form.
The reason you do not see many 3,000 RPM fans is because of the plastic used in the fan blades, cheap fans their blades will stretch centrifugal force & hit their outer fan housing and squeak &/or shatter. And that is amazing about the ARCTIC P12 Max is their Static Pressure at ANY price. They're equal or BETTER than fans costing 40+ each. The ARCTIC P12 Max right now are $8.99 each on Amazon USA.
You should also check out the Antec 30 mm Storm fans. Only 39.99 for a 3 pack. 120mm & 140 mm versions are also available in 25mm or 30mm versions. I just got a 3 pack of the 140mm set that are 30mm thickness.
This is a fantastic news because there is an innovation once again in PC Hardware(Cooling Fans in this case). And I would like to build upon from this fact by proposing/suggesting a "Modular Design" in Cooling Fans going beyond Ring Accents, Frame Corners and Detachable Connector Cables with other Fan Components such as Entire Frame, PCB(Motor Coil & Bearing Included), Fan Blade Assembly/Spindle able to be swapped out within seconds/minutes to facilitate DIY Mods & Repairs, Relubrication of the Bearing and streamline dust cleanup.
absolutly love your content and been following you for few months now... absolute gold area of niche, direct to point, full facts, absolutely convincing with perspective....will love you more on every videos ♥♥♥♥
I've been using the Thermaltake tough fan. Quiet and push amazing amounts of air. Mo, I don't work for them. They're just cheap and good, no frills fans.
I want to see Thermaltake make an improved version of their Swafan EX. Something with more performance since the airflow is lacking compared to current gen thermal headrooms. The removable fan blades are still the best IMO. Easy to clean.
As a friendly suggestion, you might need a bit better research before making videos because you have certain info missing or incorrect. The things I noticed: While you are right that the D30s only come with 3 years, the T30s actually come with 6 years of warranty. I suspect this is because the T30s use LCP material where the D30s are just simple plastic hence they are less likely to survive 6 years of continuous use. The D30s are announced and made in 140mm and are slated to be released in august of this year. Your statement of nobody making them could sway someone who is looking to get a 140mm fan to pull the trigger on a purchase rather than wait a month and get the new once. The Arctic P12MAX fans are not 'the same as the previous once' as they now use a ball bearing instead of FDB as standard. Previously only the fans labeled "CO" or Continuous Operation were the once that came with the ball bearing. The ability to control individual fans in a chain is made possible with the 'smart hub' product lines like the once from corsair and hyte. Personally I dislike those lines because of the inherit proprietary aspect of those products but that's something that has already been addressed, now it just needs to be standardized so we don't have 15 companies with 15 different fan connectors and microcontrollers. I do agree with your comment regarding resonance though. I have my fans slightly offset as far as speed goes to avoid this exact issue.
In my country for some reason Silent Wings 4 fans are like 40% cheaper than Noctua A12-25 so i went with bequiet. They are very similar, and Noctua being the best fan right now it was a no brainer
I was kinda stressed when I got Arctic P14 (PWM) and it barely fit into my Fractal Define R5 case, had to drill holes in the case frame to mount them from inside, so fron mesh air filter could fit xD
This is really not news. I have had 3 silverstone FHP141 since about 2015. They are almost 40mm thick. They are old fans, but have given me better airflow at lower noise levels compared to anything else I have tried. I have some noctua af14 fans for places where clearing is an issue, but I vastly prefer my silverstone fans.
Ive really never gotten the point of speed limiting switches with the addition of pwm. Even in the fastest mode, setting the t30 to 10% pwm will put it at 300 rpm so unless u have sone mental condition that makes u hyper sensitive to noise (and i do mean this genuinely), what is the point?
Is there a solution for the issue of fans harmonizing that you discussed at the end? I have T30s connected to my motherboard, would the only solution be connecting to different headers with similar, but different curves?
Connect the fans to different pwm pins on your motherboard and use a software called Fancontrol to make a curve based on CPU/GPU temps. Offset the curves and test if you get any difference at all.
pc are dead you can do your work on cloud pc . and cloud gaming is mainstream now not pc or console anymore. People are moving to cloud gaming instead of buying a pc or console or laptops. It's the end of hardware market.
I use Phanteks T30's (3000RPM ... Ohhh Myyy God!) on my 360 rad my 7950x chills at 36c! Also use Cooler Master Mobius 140p AGB case fans... 2400RPM beasts!
pc are dead you can do your work on cloud pc . and cloud gaming is mainstream now not pc or console anymore. People are moving to cloud gaming instead of buying a pc or console or laptops. It's the end of hardware market.
2:03 Gotta stop you right there buddy, there is an ocean of fans that are far better than the T30, it's just that you've probably never heard of them😂! Edit: Tech Notice...really? More like "Tech Novice".
We know we’re getting bent over and taken for a ride when a 3-pack of Chinese FANS costs half as much as your motherboard!!! These may be premium name brand models, but at 5x the price, they may be only 20% better.
NB! Apparently Lian-Li also has a 6 year WARRANTY for those fans, not sure why my box had 2 years printed on it?? :)
I wish that 30 mm was the new standard. The performance improvement is beyond worth it. I'd love to see how a 30 mm thick Be Quiet or Noctua would perform.
same!
I' think they should move to a more standard 38mm variant because 30mm leaves a lot to be desired😅
Say pause
Sadly the 30mm already doesn’t fit in many ITX cases. The 28mm looks like it might be sold that problem, though.
Same here!
PS! Correction - The Arctic FAN speed is 3300RPM at MAX, not 3000 as mentioned in the video!
what your using for for gpu support?
And what the noise level is at 3300 rpm?
@@thiagodelgado3128 human bones
@@rcortez5979 better than actual that comes in the box
@@joint831 Must be quite a lot since they are ball bearing fans. That also makes the 6 years warranty a good thing because this bearing type is traditionally more prone to failure compared to fluid bearing. Also noisier at low speeds.
Just wanna say that the intro and the beat coming together, was a very pleasing experience.
My 6 Noctua 140mm fans and NH-D14 from 2014 are still working perfectly for my 13700k. Free socket support from Noctua is incredible. They have survived 3 builds.
Most companies give you free socket support lol
I just built a pc. Got a Lian Li galahad AIO with the SL120v1 fans. Had one fan doa. Contacted LIan Li for replacement of fan or whole unit. Customer service sucked so bad trying to get me to run through hoops wasting my time that I returned entire unit to original retailer and went with an Arctic AIO. Bad customer service and proprietary connections for the lose.
Not sure if you need video ideas but it would be nice if there was a 120mm AIO vs 240mm AIO vs Air Cooler comparison for those of us that have to stick with small form factor cases.
Do you not find 3000 RPM a bit too loud? Normally faster than 1500 RPM is not worth it to me. 😢
Bigger, slower fans are a better choice in my opinion
I agree, at the point the fans need to take-off at 3000 RPM I generally prefer to just throttle and lose a bit of performance.
You don't need to take it all the way to 3000rpm for good performance. The phanteks t30 will beat the standard Noctua at the same RPM. If you need more headroom, you have the option of going all the way to 3000, but it's not necessary.
@@killerful I agree it's a good fan regardless. Just my opinion that calling 3000 RPM "performance," is a little misleading. Great performance to me is more about efficiency than brute force.
@@killerful For benchmarks, to squeeze that last °C off the components to get those 10 points you are missing in 3DMark :p
It's useless otherwise. Most 120mm fans have their sweet spot somewhere in the 1100-1300 rpm range when it comes to performance with tolerable noise. Above that, it's mostly useful when you have a case with shite airflow and need to brute force a trickle of air through a slit in the front panel. but you'd be better off saving money to get a new case.
Dyson should make bladeless pc case fans.
Lol
@@blue-lu3iz 👍🏼Didn't know, i thought it was bearing free. To get rid of bearing PWM noise that can happen at different speeds.
Show thermal images and temps of your “Best Bang for Buck” Builds.
Antec Storm T3 120&140: I am forgotten.
Storm 14030 moving as much air as some cases' entire intakes.....
I use several Silverstone FHP-141 and these fans are next level. They are 140x38mm, I have never seen a fan moving more air than these (except server of course).
I got them for 17€ a piece.
You're not lying, but the noise was a dealbreaker for me. They're jet engines haha.
@@SinjiKazama they are incredibly loud, if they had 0rpm they would be perfect
I would like to see some manufacturers start making reverse swept fans instead of reverse facing fans, like the middle fans you see in some GPUs. It supposedly helps with turbulence.
3000 RPM isn't a selling point unless they're going into a server in a soundproof room. No one wants a leafblower on their desk regardless of how good the performance is.
Anyway, I feel like a lot of these new fans are overhyped because they're only looking a sound levels relative to cooling performance. The issue is that sound levels don't tell the whole story, another major factor is sound profile. What you do is you take two fans and set them to the same CFM, then you measure which one sounds nicer. You'll often find that two fans with the same sound levels can sound radically different, one might have a nice even humming noise while the other has a high pitched screeching noise.
The fan I'm most interested in is the AlphaCool metal fan. Completely a fluke, but looks like it might be incredible. Also, I have a few of the P12 Max, and they're pretty great for the money. Much better than the P12, but not really more expensive.
pc are dead you can do your work on cloud pc . and cloud gaming is mainstream now not pc or console anymore. People are moving to cloud gaming instead of buying a pc or console or laptops. It's the end of hardware market.
@Noob gamer stfu. How do you think all the cloud software is developed? Off of a computer. Physical desktops will always be necessary as laptops will never be as fast. Theybare here to stay no matter their current form.
@@Noob._gamer can you tell me wich dealer you got that stuff from? Seems to be pretty hard stuff
@@Noob._gamer Never mind that your comment is completely disconnected from reality... what does it have to do with my comment?
@@stiegelzeine2186 hes a bot. hes been on every tech channel
best pc parts channel, cheers!
Fan prizes has gone just insanily high. No need for rgb or fancy connectors, just to move some air.
true!
great review of ARGB Light strips, that just happen to have fans connected.
Arctic P12 is great. I used them on my 6700xt GPU. Whisper quiet under load.
P12 are great before 1500 rpm, at 1500 and above they got a wierd noise, only fans i have ever heard of.
Did you do the deshroud mod and jut zip tie the fans on the graphics card?
@@maozedowner5915 yes.
Why does everyone forget about the Antec T3 Storm (30mm)? Or even the Silverstone FHP141 (38mm)?
The reason you do not see many 3,000 RPM fans is because of the plastic used in the fan blades, cheap fans their blades will stretch centrifugal force & hit their outer fan housing and squeak &/or shatter. And that is amazing about the ARCTIC P12 Max is their Static Pressure at ANY price. They're equal or BETTER than fans costing 40+ each. The ARCTIC P12 Max right now are $8.99 each on Amazon USA.
You should also check out the Antec 30 mm Storm fans. Only 39.99 for a 3 pack. 120mm & 140 mm versions are also available in 25mm or 30mm versions. I just got a 3 pack of the 140mm set that are 30mm thickness.
This is a fantastic news because there is an innovation once again in PC Hardware(Cooling Fans in this case). And I would like to build upon from this fact by proposing/suggesting a "Modular Design" in Cooling Fans going beyond Ring Accents, Frame Corners and Detachable Connector Cables with other Fan Components such as Entire Frame, PCB(Motor Coil & Bearing Included), Fan Blade Assembly/Spindle able to be swapped out within seconds/minutes to facilitate DIY Mods & Repairs, Relubrication of the Bearing and streamline dust cleanup.
For clarification, Phanteks uses JST-SM connectors for their A/D-RGB components.
Corsair's A/D-RGB connectors are proprietary.
absolutly love your content and been following you for few months now... absolute gold area of niche, direct to point, full facts, absolutely convincing with perspective....will love you more on every videos ♥♥♥♥
Much appreciated!
@@theTechNotice huge loves from Malaysia for you ♥️
THE INTRO IS 🔥🔥🔥
That Phanteks’ 3pin connector is called “JST” connector, which was also used by Deepcool and Lian Li for some of their older stuffs.
very cool, but honestly, 2-3 years warranty isnt gonna cut it for me when compareable fans give 6+ years.. a shame
Phanteks D30's looking great, can't wait for the 140mm version to release to replace all my fans with them :D cool vid ty
@@blue-lu3iz Actually they're releasing 140mm D30, not T30.
Artic p12 sp 120 slim fans are amazing for the price. Right Fit Fir Those Mini Itx Builds...super quite on full mode. And They Daisy Chain.
The new Lian-li fans at Computex this year look crazy, idk about performance but they got LED screens on them too now, they out here wildin.
I've been using the Thermaltake tough fan. Quiet and push amazing amounts of air. Mo, I don't work for them. They're just cheap and good, no frills fans.
Try to review PCcooler brand Fan. The Price is affordable. Want to know the performance.
Noctua has finally figured out how to make their perfect 140mm fan, I hope they can quickly add daisy chaining to their full fan lineup.
YES YOU CAN GET THE PHANTEKS 140MM D30 FANS NOW.
I want to see Thermaltake make an improved version of their Swafan EX. Something with more performance since the airflow is lacking compared to current gen thermal headrooms. The removable fan blades are still the best IMO. Easy to clean.
Antec has put out a 30mm 140
You should make a video on how to control the case fans with Fan Control software
As a friendly suggestion, you might need a bit better research before making videos because you have certain info missing or incorrect. The things I noticed:
While you are right that the D30s only come with 3 years, the T30s actually come with 6 years of warranty. I suspect this is because the T30s use LCP material where the D30s are just simple plastic hence they are less likely to survive 6 years of continuous use.
The D30s are announced and made in 140mm and are slated to be released in august of this year. Your statement of nobody making them could sway someone who is looking to get a 140mm fan to pull the trigger on a purchase rather than wait a month and get the new once.
The Arctic P12MAX fans are not 'the same as the previous once' as they now use a ball bearing instead of FDB as standard. Previously only the fans labeled "CO" or Continuous Operation were the once that came with the ball bearing.
The ability to control individual fans in a chain is made possible with the 'smart hub' product lines like the once from corsair and hyte. Personally I dislike those lines because of the inherit proprietary aspect of those products but that's something that has already been addressed, now it just needs to be standardized so we don't have 15 companies with 15 different fan connectors and microcontrollers.
I do agree with your comment regarding resonance though. I have my fans slightly offset as far as speed goes to avoid this exact issue.
you look like mick schumacher
good video!
In my country for some reason Silent Wings 4 fans are like 40% cheaper than Noctua A12-25 so i went with bequiet. They are very similar, and Noctua being the best fan right now it was a no brainer
Great intro mate 👍
Im so sick of the rgb madness right now that i currently mod my pc to "non RGB PC".
Waiting for the alphacool apex stealth metal fans 😏
Huh interesting. My unifans p28 came with 6 years warranty and that’s what the website says as well.
Hmm..... interesting...
Great video! Very informative.
I was kinda stressed when I got Arctic P14 (PWM) and it barely fit into my Fractal Define R5 case, had to drill holes in the case frame to mount them from inside, so fron mesh air filter could fit xD
what about the Antec 30mm fans?
Nice LEGO set bro.
Wish there was a T30 140mm variant
Just what celebrities want. Fans, Fans, and more Fans.
Hello TN, please guide me which is better in performance "Phanteks Glacier One with D30" vs "deepcool LT720"
Which ones are the quitest?
Deepcool has 85.85 CFM and 3.28 mmAq. where can we get it?
What do you think of the new Alpha Cool all metal fans?
They're just too expensive. I can get a 10" wall fan that'll blow these fans away for just $20.
I'm a simple man so I go for Noctua NF-A12x25 chromax
This is really not news. I have had 3 silverstone FHP141 since about 2015. They are almost 40mm thick.
They are old fans, but have given me better airflow at lower noise levels compared to anything else I have tried.
I have some noctua af14 fans for places where clearing is an issue, but I vastly prefer my silverstone fans.
Ive really never gotten the point of speed limiting switches with the addition of pwm. Even in the fastest mode, setting the t30 to 10% pwm will put it at 300 rpm so unless u have sone mental condition that makes u hyper sensitive to noise (and i do mean this genuinely), what is the point?
Is there a solution for the issue of fans harmonizing that you discussed at the end? I have T30s connected to my motherboard, would the only solution be connecting to different headers with similar, but different curves?
Connect the fans to different pwm pins on your motherboard and use a software called Fancontrol to make a curve based on CPU/GPU temps. Offset the curves and test if you get any difference at all.
arctic GANG!
do fans still spin?
So... Only(PC)Fans page when?
Lol
So that video is simply an advertisement for high end new models.
Noctua or nothing.
LEDs are unreliable, thats probably why the warranty is lower.
This guy's got more fans than Linda Ronstadt! I'd love to live in his fan attic. Sorry, I just had to vent.
i need 140mm versions
Antec Storm 14030
have you ever built in meshify C case? says it should be able to fit Artics 420 aio cooler. looks good too
"Whatever your liquid cooling ambitions may be, Meshify C can make it happen with support for radiators up to 360 mm in the front and 240 mm up top"
pc are dead you can do your work on cloud pc . and cloud gaming is mainstream now not pc or console anymore. People are moving to cloud gaming instead of buying a pc or console or laptops. It's the end of hardware market.
140mm fans are louder , tried noctua 140mm fans.... replaced to 120mm noctua fans
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Great
whos using fans at 3000 rpm? it would be so loud. I got all Noctua fans at boxing day sales pc is silent now :)
@@blue-lu3iz must be
If I didn't already have so many noctua fans id totally be looking at all the fans that are out now. I still haven't even tried the T30s
Be quiet and Lian li fans are my favs
you forget your be quiet SILENT WINGS PRO
I use Phanteks T30's (3000RPM ... Ohhh Myyy God!) on my 360 rad my 7950x chills at 36c! Also use Cooler Master Mobius 140p AGB case fans... 2400RPM beasts!
pc are dead you can do your work on cloud pc . and cloud gaming is mainstream now not pc or console anymore. People are moving to cloud gaming instead of buying a pc or console or laptops. It's the end of hardware market.
Nope. Cloud gaming will never be fast enough for competitive gaming.
Bro living on a different dimension
Only Fans
2:03 Gotta stop you right there buddy, there is an ocean of fans that are far better than the T30, it's just that you've probably never heard of them😂!
Edit:
Tech Notice...really? More like "Tech Novice".
We know we’re getting bent over and taken for a ride when a 3-pack of Chinese FANS costs half as much as your motherboard!!! These may be premium name brand models, but at 5x the price, they may be only 20% better.
useless fake background music - I'm out
The proprietary bullshit just annoys me to no end.