Thank you for this video. I'm spec'ing this out unit right now for a non-profit and was worried that the upgrades are what broke it. Whew... Didn't know about the PCIe card so thank you.
@@corrpendragon the difficult part is when you are so scaled (# of drives) that you can't easily migrate data. I got 48 spinnin rust on a virtualized TrueNAS Core VM, but I just got a synology system to keep backups of all infrastructure stuff (VMs running on VMWare ESXI, 3x Raspberry Pis, and 3 PCs)
I splurged for an E10G21-F2 dual-SFP+ card for my DS1821+ because I wanted a redundant connection, and also upgraded memory to 32 GB. I dodn't bother with SSD cache for now because device uses any free RAM as a cache, and I've got plenty of it free (just running a couple of docker containers, as well as Synology Drive for backing up my PCs). I heard that this CPU actually supports up to 64 GB of RAM, but I just couldn't be bothered to try, even though I do have a pair of 32 GB ECC DDR4 memory modules (they are currently installed in my mini-pc, which is set up as an xcp-ng server).
Dude, Optane durability is so high (at least 4 to 8 times higher compared to any Samsung SSD), and since you're using it only for caching, you could use just 1 optane and one Samsung for storage.
Nice video.. I''m getting a used Synology NAS and thinking about doing some docker containers for my Unifi controller.. Anyway. It looks like that second top RAM stick wasn't seated all the way as that loud clank sound I think was the clip getting forced over the board that wasn't cut in? The pins looked like they were too far out
I have the Synology MD2D20 NVME card which for my RS3618xs, and it gives me the option of storing my btrfs metadata in the cache. The only problem with this is that this metadata (at least in my NAS) takes about 300Gb. So going for the smaller and better quality NVME drive may be good, but I think this stopped you from taking advantage of having fast btrfs metadata stored in the cache. I am not 100% sure that this can be done with E10M20-T1 card, but I am getting this card for a smaller NAS in a different office and I am hoping this will work exactly the same. Since the NVME cards you used were only 60Gb I assume the option was not displayed because it would not fit.
Yeah you def can but mine were only 60GB so I avoided the metadata cache. It was displayed but I rambled a bit too much went talking about it so just cut it lol
Great video! Thanks for sharing and for making me laugh while breaking stuff..I think I'll buy that NAS + the expansion card you mentioned! 🎉 Just curious to know more about those two SSDs: is it possible to configure one of them as dedicated VM hard drive ?
Im rocking a DS-920+, added the ram upgrade, and been eying the 422 for a while..but lack of memory upgrade says i need the higher end model..... you just answered my question on ram and nic upgrade. guess ill be adding a rack mounted NAS here soon! ill be more careful not to snap off the clip lol. thanks for the great vids.
I was wondering if I really need to use Synology network card or maybe I can go with any 10G card for SFP+? Do you or anyone else have some experience? Thanks a mill
Many thanks for your all amazing Videos... I have NAS Storage, RAID 5 configured with 1 volume, Right now data is 43% only but issue is after 10 or 15 days storage will be reaching to 100%, then it will be auto refresh to 43%, My concern is... Between the process getting WARNING ERROR. Please suggest me how fix it. Don't want to reach 100% Unnecessary
Seeing that RAM clip break brought back memories of a cheap laptop I bought secondhand on the cheap. Opened up the RAM compartment and the RAM sprung up. All the clips were busted and missing, instant e-waste! ☹
@@RaidOwl it’s nice when you break your own stuff because then you can do jank fixes. I was hoping to resell the laptop, and went as far as trying thermal pads.
OMG, that's the exact same card I used for my 8 bay Syno 1221+. I've been waiting for support from Unifi because the 10gb connection between the Enterprise XG 24 and this card keeps dropping connection!!! Do you by chance have yours connected to this switch? It works fine if I use a SFP+, but then that defeats the whole point of buying the 10gb ethernet switch!
@@RaidOwl Makes sense! Makes it easier for people without a full rack setup as well. Thanks for the reply! Great stuff on the channel btw, keep up the great work :)
I have a DS920+ with 8 Gb RAM and 2 Samsung 980 1 Tb SSD for caching and my DSM states i use over 300 Mb cache and I am the only user on my NAS. I disagree that anything smaller than 512 Gb is not really utilizing the cache system Synology designed.
Do you know that I'm here because I couldn't resist the "broke it" from the title? Yes that's me 😂 Nice video tho haha
I’m a clumsy bish
you breaking that part is a accurate representation of what i am doing with my life. I laughed so hard
Thank you for this video. I'm spec'ing this out unit right now for a non-profit and was worried that the upgrades are what broke it. Whew... Didn't know about the PCIe card so thank you.
Love your videos. I went with TrueNAS Scale, but I like seeing how other people use other products.
Also went with truenas, but maybe eventually I'll get a synology, just for the sake of BTRFS for all my misfit drives
@@corrpendragon the difficult part is when you are so scaled (# of drives) that you can't easily migrate data. I got 48 spinnin rust on a virtualized TrueNAS Core VM, but I just got a synology system to keep backups of all infrastructure stuff (VMs running on VMWare ESXI, 3x Raspberry Pis, and 3 PCs)
"If you put those drives in here, I don't blame you, they'll be solid"
You could even say that they'll be... solid state
(i'll see myself out)
Oh no…lol
I'm probably going to try some Optane for caching soon as well. Nicely done👍
Everybody's breaking things these days!
I can’t stop plz help
It seems Linus started a trend.... haha... Love all 3 of your contents.
I’m going to have send you some A&M stuff. This purple and gold hurts my eyes 😂 as always, appreciate the videos regardless of your wardrobe choice
Oh yeah we could use some towels to wipe the dogs off after they get muddy! 😉😉
I'm glad the "broke it" part was not what i was expecting
I splurged for an E10G21-F2 dual-SFP+ card for my DS1821+ because I wanted a redundant connection, and also upgraded memory to 32 GB. I dodn't bother with SSD cache for now because device uses any free RAM as a cache, and I've got plenty of it free (just running a couple of docker containers, as well as Synology Drive for backing up my PCs). I heard that this CPU actually supports up to 64 GB of RAM, but I just couldn't be bothered to try, even though I do have a pair of 32 GB ECC DDR4 memory modules (they are currently installed in my mini-pc, which is set up as an xcp-ng server).
For 600 users on our flashstation 6400 HA array. 1tb def not overkill for caching. I’m using 8 and 128gb of ram.
Is this your only Synology or is this a backup unit for a desktop version?
Dude, Optane durability is so high (at least 4 to 8 times higher compared to any Samsung SSD), and since you're using it only for caching, you could use just 1 optane and one Samsung for storage.
Nice video.. I''m getting a used Synology NAS and thinking about doing some docker containers for my Unifi controller.. Anyway. It looks like that second top RAM stick wasn't seated all the way as that loud clank sound I think was the clip getting forced over the board that wasn't cut in? The pins looked like they were too far out
You are correct. I had to reseat the ram after. Good catch haha
Please do a video for that pcie card in a server. I am genuinely curious if Windows and Linux have drivers for this combo card.
I have the Synology MD2D20 NVME card which for my RS3618xs, and it gives me the option of storing my btrfs metadata in the cache. The only problem with this is that this metadata (at least in my NAS) takes about 300Gb. So going for the smaller and better quality NVME drive may be good, but I think this stopped you from taking advantage of having fast btrfs metadata stored in the cache.
I am not 100% sure that this can be done with E10M20-T1 card, but I am getting this card for a smaller NAS in a different office and I am hoping this will work exactly the same. Since the NVME cards you used were only 60Gb I assume the option was not displayed because it would not fit.
Yeah you def can but mine were only 60GB so I avoided the metadata cache. It was displayed but I rambled a bit too much went talking about it so just cut it lol
I love the self-awareness. lmao the best
A bunch of VM's? With 4 cores? Haha lol
Great video! Thanks for sharing and for making me laugh while breaking stuff..I think I'll buy that NAS + the expansion card you mentioned! 🎉
Just curious to know more about those two SSDs: is it possible to configure one of them as dedicated VM hard drive ?
Yeah they don’t have to be cache so you can use them for VMs if you want
Im rocking a DS-920+, added the ram upgrade, and been eying the 422 for a while..but lack of memory upgrade says i need the higher end model..... you just answered my question on ram and nic upgrade. guess ill be adding a rack mounted NAS here soon! ill be more careful not to snap off the clip lol.
thanks for the great vids.
Lol good luck soldier
Good video, sucks that you broke your ram clip !
😕😕😕
I'm expecting some of those 'ole 4tb drives' are going to be replaced with some SSD's shortly to make those VMs sing. Watch this space! 😊
nice LSU shirt Geaux Tigers!
Yessir!
thank you for sharing.
me vibing with a rs816, looking at it very intensely (also would you know of any cheap/small server racks?)
I had a NavePoint 12u setup for awhile. It’s under $200 and pretty well built.
I was wondering if I really need to use Synology network card or maybe I can go with any 10G card for SFP+? Do you or anyone else have some experience? Thanks a mill
Many thanks for your all amazing Videos... I have NAS Storage, RAID 5 configured with 1 volume, Right now data is 43% only but issue is after 10 or 15 days storage will be reaching to 100%, then it will be auto refresh to 43%, My concern is... Between the process getting WARNING ERROR. Please suggest me how fix it. Don't want to reach 100% Unnecessary
Maybe snapshots need lowering (like 30 maximum snapshots running once per day or even 7 days) and recycle bin auto purge after 7 days
Seeing that RAM clip break brought back memories of a cheap laptop I bought secondhand on the cheap. Opened up the RAM compartment and the RAM sprung up. All the clips were busted and missing, instant e-waste! ☹
I would have busted out the duct tape if necessary lol
@@RaidOwl it’s nice when you break your own stuff because then you can do jank fixes. I was hoping to resell the laptop, and went as far as trying thermal pads.
Thanks for the content owl!
Anytime, Sean Shea!
OMG, that's the exact same card I used for my 8 bay Syno 1221+. I've been waiting for support from Unifi because the 10gb connection between the Enterprise XG 24 and this card keeps dropping connection!!! Do you by chance have yours connected to this switch? It works fine if I use a SFP+, but then that defeats the whole point of buying the 10gb ethernet switch!
Mine is connected to a Flex XG via rj45 with no issues
@@RaidOwl Good to know!!
why only 1500B MTU ?
Love it!
I had to read that twice -- 54.9 GB for each SSD in 2023. I've heard of saving money, but...
It’s an Optane drive, not quite your standard SSD.
What shelf do you have that on?
Next Episode - Upgrading the nice cube and not breaking it.
Challenge accepted
Been wanting a NAS for a while now, think this one is the way to go for a good midgrade setup?
It’s a solid system but I think the DS1522+ is a better value for most people.
@@RaidOwl Makes sense! Makes it easier for people without a full rack setup as well. Thanks for the reply! Great stuff on the channel btw, keep up the great work :)
3:40 lol you goof. My with would call this "birth control"
Lol yeah that’s a bit more accurate
I like comedians. So I'll follow you.
How did you manage to use this party hardware? I thought Synology limited it to their own hardware..
It’s a Synology device, and the ram isn’t proprietary.
That dude never fixing my laptop....
Cmon gimme a chance
9:07 if you’re spending that much you’d think you’d have these as the standard
Agreed
Voiding your warranty in 5 minutes ( you can't bend them back that far)
Which 10 Gbit/s switch do you use?
Unifi Flex XG
One who didn't break anything, he didn't even do anything. When you break it, you learn how to fix it. Like from me. :D :D
But do you really need to fix it if it still “works”? 🤔🤔🤔
I’m upgrading my nas atm >.>;
Stupid question: does this card run unter win10 or Linux ?
Yep yep
@@RaidOwl nice 👍
so...are you gonna use those 980 PRO SSDs?
Lol eventually
@@RaidOwl I know of a nice cube that loves 980 Pros
I have a DS920+ with 8 Gb RAM and 2 Samsung 980 1 Tb SSD for caching and my DSM states i use over 300 Mb cache and I am the only user on my NAS. I disagree that anything smaller than 512 Gb is not really utilizing the cache system Synology designed.
Bravo!
You are not alone on breaking those types of ram clips. They kinda suck lol
💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼
my ds411 reports 128 MB memory sweeeeet
Sheeeeesh
Awful they sold this unit with 2 GB memory and w/o 10 Gbps ... afterall we're in 2023 now
Yeah I can understand not having 10G but the 2GB of RAM is rough...
/:) memory card slot 😢
Skill issue
Not false
First :)