jeez looking at this deck for stan in the beginning is insane. 50 tanks + another 6 support tanks and 6 tank hunters. there are actually more tanks than infantry.
@@atkpwrgaming I think its because there is a bit of a sliding scale, if you go with a lot of Infantry and the enemy lacks enough HE and machineguns you can bully them and if you have enough tanks while the enemy runs out of AT or didn't bring enough you get to have free reign over huge portions of the map.
I'd like to point out that single Phase C card of Rekruci represents over 1/2 of Stan's total Infantry squads. Edit: And he never even called any in that I saw. *Jesus.* Also, what is even the characteristics of the Rekruci? I can't seem to find them online.
@@jaapaasa Stan playing Pancerna is pretty predictable tbh. 34-85 get slaughtered by fireflies because of veterancy, maybe 3 armored or 6 ab something else with a lot of bazookas or an is-2 deck
I think Hegy are better than you frame them as (if you can keep them at cqc only), but I also think they are the 5th best infantry option 25th hado has. 25th gets 2 cards of Arka, 2 cards of 25G, and 3 cards of regular Lovesz (plus C phase half track pzr grens). At 20 points the Lovesz are great line fillers... chunky, 2 excellent smg, up-powered rifles, a decent lmg, and a pzrfaust. They're supercharged Gvardia. one card of hegy max. Bring the Lovesz for general purpose work, the Arka for cqc, the 25G for the important fights, and the halftrack pzgrens for the late game.
@@atkpwrgaming I feel like the T-34-76 could at least use a slight decrease in price, its weird that the cheap spam tank of real life is as expensive as many superior tanks in the game.
@@dominuslogik484 but it is cheaper? It’s 15-20 points cheaper than the standard axis medium tanks and Sherman’s. It’s one of the cheapest medium tanks in the game, the cheapest common one for sure
@@atkpwrgaming I swear for some reason I saw most T-34s as about 70 points each, the wiki is showing 55-60 points maybe I am mistaken on that. it does draw the question why the cromwell is so much more effective to spam than the T34-76 then
Man, This Stan play isn't so hard to counter as its very predictable, I think ATTK PWER just has contracted STANPTSD. The only thing ithis strategy really is, is assertive, all about initiative. A good seafire/recon fighter to kill his air recon, and deny the early fighter bomber on AT, plus early intel on where the push is, and a bunch of cheap, fast firing, light at guns, deployed early would do the trick, as he is always counting on his enemy having, no more than one per major road/side early on. Then good flamer and midrange AT infantry, and you're imoovable. Feels like if you deny that Armored /Air breakthrough, there is no mutch more he could do then until late. And if you defeat the blob you know Initiative is yours and he is probably deployed , light everywhere else then early on. Maybe it's Vanguard/Maverick time ? 1rst DFL and Groupement Dody are amongst the VERY GOOD counters to this strategy in my opinion, And there is others indeed like 3rd fallshirmjäger witch has all the tools as well, But i'would look for one that also has fast transports for the vanquard thing... I can see a strategy where you would intentionally let him pick this division, Anyways, I hope you will perform against him next time peace !
@atkpwrgaming Tatra is just not the right division in my opinion, Worst it's a trap : It lacks the plentiful and mobile AA, and the recon fighter needed to counter this. Did you miss the 9 fighter bombers Stan has in his deck ? and that always uses that to bomb any At gun he spots ? Plus the fact that hes artillery is 100% gonna target the painfully, Lacking in numbers, Heavy and slow AA that tatra has ? How do you guys even come to suggest tatra ? Where are the arguments ? i don't get it. The only thing i suggested it has is the light AT but its far from the only division with such guns. That is probably why you are scared of this strategy you seem to not know how to counter it, And unable to recognise what is critical to avoid it happening again And or maybe not open enough to criticism. 3rd fallschirmjäger is 100% better than tatra for this and many more like 1rst Fall too. Tatra to counter this strategy is a trap you will loose your aa and the game quickly. Even the 38(t) would be useless once stan has air reconed them, They have no chance aganist superior mobility and firepower and armour cromwell spam. @tedarcher if you can say it's always banned, i can say you're always wrong, with the same respect for what the word always actually means that you had.
@@atkpwrgaming doesnt mean they were not often forced into Dogfights, but the FW190 A&D were specialized Interceptors. take these instead of F&G to control the skies! i dunno has the game the ME262?
@@atkpwrgaming ME262 was available in late 44 and the game has several questionable tank types in it, like Panzer4F1 that shouldnt exist in 44. perhaps its too strong so the devs leave it out on purpose...
This was brutal. I mean, Stan won on B on balanced vs maverick
the man has skills what can I say
jeez looking at this deck for stan in the beginning is insane. 50 tanks + another 6 support tanks and 6 tank hunters. there are actually more tanks than infantry.
dude somehow kicks butt with it though
@@atkpwrgaming I think its because there is a bit of a sliding scale, if you go with a lot of Infantry and the enemy lacks enough HE and machineguns you can bully them and if you have enough tanks while the enemy runs out of AT or didn't bring enough you get to have free reign over huge portions of the map.
A lot of silly mistakes by me, both before and during the game. But I have to appreciate Stans skill with this div. Better player won!
Ten times better than me though. I can't beat bot another day 😂
Great game, this was a tough one!
I'd like to point out that single Phase C card of Rekruci represents over 1/2 of Stan's total Infantry squads.
Edit: And he never even called any in that I saw. *Jesus.* Also, what is even the characteristics of the Rekruci? I can't seem to find them online.
He brought 10 Infantry squads in A, and 16 in B. That has to be punishable.
it always feels like he should lose with no infantry in this meta, but somehow he still manages to pull it out
Ngl there is a shit ton of Stan casts in the channel than any other player of the community
Stardekk you are on here quite a lot along with mimile and farid. He just happens to be in my group this season. Also he is exciting to watch
@@atkpwrgaming I didn't complain, it's your channel after all
They are always exciting so no complaints there
@@tedarcher9120 yes i love seeing armored divs in action
I would never have the balls to play zero panzershreck against Stan
yeah. Bad pick by me tbh
@@jaapaasa what were the other options?
@@tedarcher9120 not to let Stan play his favorite div XD. For real though, maybe a Soviet deck with T34/85 and such
@@jaapaasa Stan playing Pancerna is pretty predictable tbh. 34-85 get slaughtered by fireflies because of veterancy, maybe 3 armored or 6 ab something else with a lot of bazookas or an is-2 deck
@@tedarcher9120 probably yeah. I don't have too much experience of playing Stan. Got a good lesson here
AP has PTSD =P. Stan really is fun to watch w Cromwell spam. Will Eugen give him the Comet?
Im not sure if the comet falls in the time frame
PTSD = Post Traumatic Stan Disorder.
I think Hegy are better than you frame them as (if you can keep them at cqc only), but I also think they are the 5th best infantry option 25th hado has. 25th gets 2 cards of Arka, 2 cards of 25G, and 3 cards of regular Lovesz (plus C phase half track pzr grens). At 20 points the Lovesz are great line fillers... chunky, 2 excellent smg, up-powered rifles, a decent lmg, and a pzrfaust. They're supercharged Gvardia.
one card of hegy max. Bring the Lovesz for general purpose work, the Arka for cqc, the 25G for the important fights, and the halftrack pzgrens for the late game.
i would definitely use arka more at 20 pts, add on the lovesz and you can have a pretty dangerous infantry tab
What kind of rocket load out makes it worth taking.
You want atleast four rockets for HE and 8 for AT. its not like they are bad with less, just a lot less consistent
Hey, can we have a how to play for 3rd us armoured spearhead? 😇
I hear you. Im not the guy you want to watch play that honestly, ghosty would be
Would open up so many divisions if T-34-76 and Sherman opening pushes were as viable as the Cromwell ones.
it does confuse me that the T-34-76 is as expensive as it is.
I mean every soviet division would just meme rush then and that woudl quite frankly really suck
@@atkpwrgaming I feel like the T-34-76 could at least use a slight decrease in price, its weird that the cheap spam tank of real life is as expensive as many superior tanks in the game.
@@dominuslogik484 but it is cheaper? It’s 15-20 points cheaper than the standard axis medium tanks and Sherman’s. It’s one of the cheapest medium tanks in the game, the cheapest common one for sure
@@atkpwrgaming I swear for some reason I saw most T-34s as about 70 points each, the wiki is showing 55-60 points maybe I am mistaken on that. it does draw the question why the cromwell is so much more effective to spam than the T34-76 then
i can't wait to see you watch my game against WSN on kostriza ahahha
Im trying to get to it!
Where is the Mr.Ghosty POV
i will see what I can do haha
Its saperzuh, there is not english y sound at the end.
Thanks for the feedback!
Literally just ban all the cromwell spam divs and force Stan to actually play instead of allowing him to do this cheesy armour rush everytime.
hahaha he can do other stuff, hes just REALLY good that
idk how he won, ok that it was a good pick against 25 hado but the opener was brutal, he lost so much, this is to show how good he is
Yeah he is a very good player
Man,
This Stan play isn't so hard to counter as its very predictable,
I think ATTK PWER just has contracted STANPTSD.
The only thing ithis strategy really is, is assertive, all about initiative.
A good seafire/recon fighter to kill his air recon,
and deny the early fighter bomber on AT,
plus early intel on where the push is,
and a bunch of cheap, fast firing, light at guns,
deployed early would do the trick,
as he is always counting on his enemy having,
no more than one per major road/side early on.
Then good flamer and midrange AT infantry,
and you're imoovable.
Feels like if you deny that Armored /Air breakthrough,
there is no mutch more he could do then until late.
And if you defeat the blob you know
Initiative is yours and he is probably deployed ,
light everywhere else then early on.
Maybe it's Vanguard/Maverick time ?
1rst DFL and Groupement Dody are amongst the VERY GOOD counters to this strategy in my opinion,
And there is others indeed like 3rd fallshirmjäger witch has all the tools as well,
But i'would look for one that also has fast transports for the vanquard thing...
I can see a strategy where you would intentionally let him pick this division,
Anyways,
I hope you will perform against him next time peace !
Dody and DFL are always banned, but something like Tatra can work
Tatra would have made a lot more sense here, the choice of 25th was really odd
@@atkpwrgaming I think Stan banned it last
@atkpwrgaming
Tatra is just not the right division in my opinion,
Worst it's a trap :
It lacks the plentiful and mobile AA,
and the recon fighter needed to counter this.
Did you miss the 9 fighter bombers Stan has in his deck ?
and that always uses that to bomb any At gun he spots ?
Plus the fact that hes artillery is 100% gonna target the painfully,
Lacking in numbers, Heavy and slow AA that tatra has ?
How do you guys even come to suggest tatra ?
Where are the arguments ? i don't get it.
The only thing i suggested it has is the light AT but its far from the only division with such guns.
That is probably why you are scared of this strategy
you seem to not know how to counter it,
And unable to recognise what is critical to avoid it happening again
And or maybe not open enough to criticism.
3rd fallschirmjäger is 100% better than tatra for this and many more like 1rst Fall too.
Tatra to counter this strategy is a trap you will loose your aa and the game quickly.
Even the 38(t) would be useless once stan has air reconed them,
They have no chance aganist superior mobility and firepower and armour cromwell spam.
@tedarcher if you can say it's always banned,
i can say you're always wrong,
with the same respect for what the word always actually means that you had.
@@SEEEGAAAaaa 3fj was banned first
FW190 F&G were Groundattack Versions with extra Armor and not really meant for Airfights.
interesting thank you!
@@atkpwrgaming doesnt mean they were not often forced into Dogfights, but the FW190 A&D were specialized Interceptors. take these instead of F&G to control the skies! i dunno has the game the ME262?
@@Varus78 nope not in the end of 1944 time range they keep the game in
@@atkpwrgaming ME262 was available in late 44 and the game has several questionable tank types in it, like Panzer4F1 that shouldnt exist in 44. perhaps its too strong so the devs leave it out on purpose...
Do you think Stan feels targeted?
I think he secretly enjoys it haha hes a super nice guy