i love the longer lines of the female body at this time. And the tumbling was a lot slower because the girls were taller & it was more about momentum and pure strength, rather than the explosive power we see with today's smaller girls. Gymnastics was definitely a graceful and beautiful sport back then, like acrobatic ballet.
@@maddieschaefer fairly much hit the nail on the head, take nothing away from the gymnast's today but in no way would they be able to do the tumbling without the springs and that includes Simone !!
The slower tumbling has nothing to do with their taller bodies - gymnasts today are taller on average than they've been since the early seventies. Nina Derwael, who won the gold on bars at the Tokyo Olympics and has won 4 world medals on the event is 5'7" (170 cm). That would have been unheard of 20-30 years ago, when Svetlana Khorkina was considered a giant at 5'4" (162 cm). The slower tumbling was because the floor and beam didn't have springs in them and the vault springboards could barely even be considered a "springboard". If you'd ever set foot in a gymnastics gym you would know that the floor is bouncy, as is the beam. These gymnasts were basically competing on a concrete or hardwood floor with the equivalent of a wrestling mat or panel mat thrown over it. Also, they didn't have the almost 60 years of coaching/training experience that we benefit from now. Obviously every generation of coaches learns from the previous generation and builds upon it. There's so many techniques that have been scrapped even since I was a gymnast in the 90s - no decent coach would be training kids today the same way my coaches trained us. And this video is from a good 30+ years prior to that.
That was the compulsory routine. If you keep watching the tumbling difficulty was much higher. But there isn't a mat even, let alone springs. Just a piece of carpet to mark the area. Many gyms had no mats and were tumbling on wood floors fur practice and there were no foam pits. Earlier in the year a US man dared a double back on the wood floor. Ten years later many post-puberty women did double backs but the equipment was so much better. To train on and compete on. These women still pioneered a lot. But compulsory tumbling didn't include any somersaulting until the 1981-1984 compulsory and then it was a layout.
@@chocdave Interesting. I just assumed that gyms where Olympians trained would have had mats. I do know that the modern-day floor has springs to help the gymnasts, but it was still fascinating to see how much "easier" the tumbling was back then. It was definitely refreshing to watch adult women perform when these days we see children doing some obviously dangerous moves out there.
Except the uneven bars 😂 the way they did it back then was known to cause bruising to the pelvic area & complications later on in life. It’s actually banned now.
@@allysonwerking6868 It's not that hitting your belly on the low bar is forbidden, it's just that it's impossible! After the 1984 Olympics, the bars were gradually separated, so much so that depending on your height today, you can't even touch your foot!
Da li je ko imao "komplikacija u zivotu" zbog dvovisinskih ruca nije mi poznato...ali modrica u podrucju trbuha,itekako je bilo...a ako je gimnasticarka imala izražene kosti zdjelice, onda je bilo ufff i jao...na treninzima su ispod trikoa na izbocene kosti stavljale nekakvu "zastitu" koju su same smislile...precke su bile izrazito tvrde...a, kako su samo stradavali dlanovi "obicnih" gimnasticarki, nije onda bilo toliko "zastite" za dlanove, samo prah Mg ali ...ne mogu vam ni opisati s koliko se ljubavi, marljivosti, truda i upornosti tada treniralo...to su u svetu bile" lude 60-te"ali za gimnasticare( i "obicne", ne samo vrhunske) to nije postojalo, nas to nije zanimalo...nama je bila kazna, za neposlusnost roditeljima tj. ne izvrsenje kucanskih poslova : "ne ides na trening, neces ici na takmicenje"...😂Oooo...kako smo samo bile poslusne, da mozemo na nase treninge i takmicenja...🤣jednostavno, voleli smo trenirati, voleli smo taj sport, gimnastiku, to je bio "nas svet!!!" A koji samo danas izbor i mogucnosti, imaju ovi nasi klinci 🤗!!! No, nazalost, ne bih im preporucila da se danas bave gimnastikom, posebno ne vrhunskom! @@allysonwerking6868
Безмерно благодарна Вам за видео, за прекрасный репортаж! Потрясающе! У гимнасток фигуры такие женственные, грациозные, утонченные -.любо дорого смотреть! Понятно, прогресс не стоит на месте, гимнастика стала фантастически сложной, но и на фигуре спортсменок "прогресс" отразился в полной мере. Исключение (с моей точки зрения) это Виктория Комова, Светлана Хоркина. Ещё раз благодарю Вас!
A one handed cartwheel, front walk over, back walk over....I wonder when the first back hand spring, back flip, tuck, whip, half and full were first done in gymnastics...
very quickly. I started competitive gymnastics in the midwest in 1967, only three years after 64 olympics, and we were working backhand springs on beam 1968 -just young kids in a community program. But after korbut and esp after comaneci- gymnastics exploded worldwide
Great 👍 look at 1964 Olympic Games. I’d love to know the translation of the Russian language, but fun to watch. Like many, I fell in love with gymnastics after watching Olga Korbut & Ludmilla Tourischeva in 1972. Cheers to All! Thank you.
Yo también. Las amé a las dos, y después a Elena Mukhina y Teodora Ungureanu (rumana) una diosa. Pero una pena que no la mencionen. Gracias por el video, me encantó.
No you couldn't have. You wouldn't have had the same knowledge, the equipment was primitive, that was not a floor mat, just a cloth on wood and national championships and many workout gyms only had wooden floors. No trampoline takeoffs, no foam pits, no spotting belts. Primitive biomechanical knowledge. Most gymnasts had to work full time so they didn't get the same practice time. Huge oval bars that were wooden and broke regularly. They were products of their times as you would have been.
Yeah, maybe, but you'd still have to practice for many years, work harder than you've ever worked, be super lucky, born in the Eastern Block, and be gifted mentally and physically.
the innovations in the equipment has facilitated many of the skills possible today. No way anybody was going double backs on the hard gym floors we competed on in the 60's. Reuterboards we used on vault was essentially just a kinda springy wedge board- no way to get enough lift for much more than Yami's on vault.
@@chocdave all true! I competed as a kid 1966 through 1970- my knees were shot at 12 from tumbling, (Springboards were just bent wood boards that gave a bit of lift) landing vaults on hard horsehair mats and gym floor for floor ex and vault runways.
Keep watching. You are describing the compulsory routine. In the optionals they were doing many somersaults and although not shown here two gymnasts did twisting somersaults. The floor was not a mat, just a thin carpet on wood and in smaller meets they didn't even have that. And in many gyms no floor mats either. Today they are on what is almost a trampoline with four inch springs.
@@chocdave I did gymnastics many years ago when I was a young girl. The floor was like a carpet as described. I wish that they had the “trampoline” floor mats like they have today!
Обязательная и произвольная программа очень даже различались. Обязательная - это совершенно одинаковая программа с одинаковыми элементами доля всех участниц. Доля каждого разряда была своя обязательная.
Вот это я понимаю: при такой комбинации упражнений травм можно избежать.А это главное для жизни.Не то,что сейчас.Выполняют убийственные фляки и т.д. и становятся инвалидами.😮
А сейчас,мы все продали и все просрали ,вот и пачки задних ,частные структуры ,везде ,нажива на всем ,нет не пластики не красоты движений,а у американцев ещё и вульгарно всё выглядит ,везде шоу !
Спасибо за видео!!! Но нынче в спортивной гимнастике иные правила... Я сам гимнаст, уже - "бывший", и я знаю как оценивались все программы. Уже в начале 90х изменилась система начисления балов... т.е. в многоборье и в отдельных видах все начиналось с нуля... Там уже не было обязательной и так называемой произвольной программы... Извините, но я вам высказываю свое мнение как было уже в 90х...
No springs in the beam and mats were so poor they didn't really help you. Bars were flimsy and regularly broke. On Bars the level of difficulty was way higher because a different set of bars had been developed. Several gymnasts in 1968 had somersaulting dismounts.
What I really dislike about today's gymnastics is those ridiculous tattooish designs on the leotards and corn field hair dos. Back in the day it was about beauty and grace
I only speak English but I watched the whole thing because I love the old time gymnastics, thank you for posting this!
v true. feminine. no bulging muscles nor super skinny. double twists back flip toes touching the ceiling weird.
They were the best of their generation.
Середина 20 Века это старинная?
Same. I have no clue what they’re saying 😂I love watching this tho. Nice seeing how gymnastics has evolved over the decades.
I love the balletic grace of these gymnasts and the way Latynina just floats up off the floor is mesmerising!
Beautiful and very graceful with all the floor exercises. Interesting to watch. My 9 year old daughter does gymnastics.
I’m watching to see how gymnastics was like back then and in honor of the 2020 Olympics. The technique was so different back then
Why in honor of the Sydney games?
@@LETMEINGUYS 2020 was Tokyo as well. 2000 was Sydney.
i love the longer lines of the female body at this time. And the tumbling was a lot slower because the girls were taller & it was more about momentum and pure strength, rather than the explosive power we see with today's smaller girls. Gymnastics was definitely a graceful and beautiful sport back then, like acrobatic ballet.
Part of it is there weren’t springs in the floor until the 1980 olympics! Hard to get lots of speed and height when you don’t have a bouncy floor
@@maddieschaefer fairly much hit the nail on the head, take nothing away from the gymnast's today but in no way would they be able to do the tumbling without the springs and that includes Simone !!
@@garyj79 Nadia Comaneci did all that floor routine in Montreal without springs.
They were too weak and had nowhere near the technique nor courage or tenacity to perform today's gymnastics.
The slower tumbling has nothing to do with their taller bodies - gymnasts today are taller on average than they've been since the early seventies. Nina Derwael, who won the gold on bars at the Tokyo Olympics and has won 4 world medals on the event is 5'7" (170 cm). That would have been unheard of 20-30 years ago, when Svetlana Khorkina was considered a giant at 5'4" (162 cm).
The slower tumbling was because the floor and beam didn't have springs in them and the vault springboards could barely even be considered a "springboard". If you'd ever set foot in a gymnastics gym you would know that the floor is bouncy, as is the beam. These gymnasts were basically competing on a concrete or hardwood floor with the equivalent of a wrestling mat or panel mat thrown over it.
Also, they didn't have the almost 60 years of coaching/training experience that we benefit from now. Obviously every generation of coaches learns from the previous generation and builds upon it. There's so many techniques that have been scrapped even since I was a gymnast in the 90s - no decent coach would be training kids today the same way my coaches trained us. And this video is from a good 30+ years prior to that.
Thanks for the upload! Vintage gymnastics is my favorite. So much poise and grace. ❤
Необычно смотреть такую гимнастику ,спокойную ,уравновешеную, самый сложный элемент кувырок назад ,а сейчас просто сумашествие 😢😢
Incredible to see! All the athletes are adult women who have actually gone through puberty, and the highest level of skill is a front handspring.
That was the compulsory routine. If you keep watching the tumbling difficulty was much higher. But there isn't a mat even, let alone springs. Just a piece of carpet to mark the area. Many gyms had no mats and were tumbling on wood floors fur practice and there were no foam pits. Earlier in the year a US man dared a double back on the wood floor. Ten years later many post-puberty women did double backs but the equipment was so much better. To train on and compete on. These women still pioneered a lot. But compulsory tumbling didn't include any somersaulting until the 1981-1984 compulsory and then it was a layout.
@@chocdave Interesting. I just assumed that gyms where Olympians trained would have had mats. I do know that the modern-day floor has springs to help the gymnasts, but it was still fascinating to see how much "easier" the tumbling was back then. It was definitely refreshing to watch adult women perform when these days we see children doing some obviously dangerous moves out there.
Gymnastics has come a long way. ❤
This is why it is called women's artistic gymnastics, 99% of it you can do without causing injuries and even while pregnant! So graceful and feminine
Except the uneven bars 😂 the way they did it back then was known to cause bruising to the pelvic area & complications later on in life. It’s actually banned now.
@@allysonwerking6868 It's not that hitting your belly on the low bar is forbidden, it's just that it's impossible! After the 1984 Olympics, the bars were gradually separated, so much so that depending on your height today, you can't even touch your foot!
Da li je ko imao "komplikacija u zivotu" zbog dvovisinskih ruca nije mi poznato...ali modrica u podrucju trbuha,itekako je bilo...a ako je gimnasticarka imala izražene kosti zdjelice, onda je bilo ufff i jao...na treninzima su ispod trikoa na izbocene kosti stavljale nekakvu "zastitu" koju su same smislile...precke su bile izrazito tvrde...a, kako su samo stradavali dlanovi "obicnih" gimnasticarki, nije onda bilo toliko "zastite" za dlanove, samo prah Mg ali ...ne mogu vam ni opisati s koliko se ljubavi, marljivosti, truda i upornosti tada treniralo...to su u svetu bile" lude 60-te"ali za gimnasticare( i "obicne", ne samo vrhunske) to nije postojalo, nas to nije zanimalo...nama je bila kazna, za neposlusnost roditeljima tj. ne izvrsenje kucanskih poslova : "ne ides na trening, neces ici na takmicenje"...😂Oooo...kako smo samo bile poslusne, da mozemo na nase treninge i takmicenja...🤣jednostavno, voleli smo trenirati, voleli smo taj sport, gimnastiku, to je bio "nas svet!!!" A koji samo danas izbor i mogucnosti, imaju ovi nasi klinci 🤗!!!
No, nazalost, ne bih im preporucila da se danas bave gimnastikom, posebno ne vrhunskom!
@@allysonwerking6868
The gymnasts have bodies like average women of the day. Now, very muscular and different.
M2F TRANS!?
Yes. very much so.
Uhhh No.
高齢者オリンピックイベントと称して1964年東京オリンピック女子体操の池田敬子さん相原俊子さん小野清子さん中村多仁子さん千葉吟子さん辻宏子さん渋谷多喜さんの女性らしい素晴らしい演技を再度見てみたいです!女性らしさが醸し出せれていました!オールドファンとして是非とも再現してください!是非とも生の演技を再度、みたいですね!
The bars in the uneven bars sure give and bend a lot !
It's wild how doing a somersault on the beam is now a beginning move, not an olympic-level move.
They wear shoes!
Thanks for letting us see the compulsories from this quad.
あの頃の女子体操選手の演技は本当に素晴らしかったですね!美しさが醸し出せれていてとても優雅ですね!又、女性らしさが溢れ出ていてとても素晴らしかったです!
57 years later and it’s Tokyo Olympic Gymnastics AGAIN!!!
Безмерно благодарна Вам за видео, за прекрасный репортаж! Потрясающе! У гимнасток фигуры такие женственные, грациозные, утонченные -.любо дорого смотреть! Понятно, прогресс не стоит на месте, гимнастика стала фантастически сложной, но и на фигуре спортсменок "прогресс" отразился в полной мере. Исключение (с моей точки зрения) это Виктория Комова, Светлана Хоркина. Ещё раз благодарю Вас!
A one handed cartwheel, front walk over, back walk over....I wonder when the first back hand spring, back flip, tuck, whip, half and full were first done in gymnastics...
Mrs.Striped Pajamas google Olga and Nadia.
there were athletes here doing back handspring and even a layout on floor.
very quickly. I started competitive gymnastics in the midwest in 1967, only three years after 64 olympics, and we were working backhand springs on beam 1968 -just young kids in a community program. But after korbut and esp after comaneci- gymnastics exploded worldwide
why does some of my post have a line through it?
@@susielove6012 because u probably used this (-)
Great 👍 look at 1964 Olympic Games. I’d love to know the translation of the Russian language, but fun to watch. Like many, I fell in love with gymnastics after watching Olga Korbut & Ludmilla Tourischeva in 1972. Cheers to All! Thank you.
Yo también. Las amé a las dos, y después a Elena Mukhina y Teodora Ungureanu (rumana) una diosa. Pero una pena que no la mencionen.
Gracias por el video, me encantó.
С детства любила спортивную гимнастику. Были девушки с шикарными фигурами, а не худосочные дети. Моя любимая гимнастка Зинаида Дружинина.
Прекрасный репортаж и коментарий
i love vintage gymnastics. the 60’s-80’s were the best times for this sport. now it is just men’s gymnastics disguised as women’s gymnastics
You know mens and womens gymnastics are pretty much different sports 💀 take your ignorance somewhere else
Uhhh No. Sorry
Fantástica, nota 100000.
❤😊
Awesome video.
1964年の東京オリンピックの日本女子体操選手の池田敬子さん!相原俊子さん!小野清子さん!中村多仁子さん!千葉吟子さん!辻宏子さん!渋谷多喜さん!皆さんとても美人ですね!又、演技自体も美しさ優雅さ華麗さ柔軟性や女性らしい動き女性らしさが醸し出され又、ダイナミックさ女性らしさが溢れ出ていて大変素晴らしい演技ですね!
Doing gymnastics on beam is very difficult.
Thanks for the upload. I speak Russian & French so I really enjoyed the video!
昔の女子体操は美しかった、選手も演技も
I used to be able to do that beam routine.
Wow it’s crazy how the moderm gymnastics today can’t get a visual of their scores but in old time gymnastics they were able to . 🤸♀️
No cabe duda q como cambian los tiempos, en la actualidad salen así, y son expulsadas..ahora es la que brinque mejor y lo artístico sale sobrando
Came to watch banned gymnastics. Had to mute because the narrator would zip it. Except sometimes on floor routines 😂
That is one chatty commentator.
Wish I could understand him!!
Gymnastics was much more beautiful back then.
It was black and white, boring, and sloppy
Wow. I could have been in the Olympics in 1964. What an easy routine.
No you couldn't have. You wouldn't have had the same knowledge, the equipment was primitive, that was not a floor mat, just a cloth on wood and national championships and many workout gyms only had wooden floors. No trampoline takeoffs, no foam pits, no spotting belts. Primitive biomechanical knowledge. Most gymnasts had to work full time so they didn't get the same practice time. Huge oval bars that were wooden and broke regularly. They were products of their times as you would have been.
Plus the first few routines were compulsory routines. Since there hasn't been compulsories for 25 years not a lot of fans know about those.
Yeah, maybe, but you'd still have to practice for many years, work harder than you've ever worked, be super lucky, born in the Eastern Block, and be gifted mentally and physically.
the innovations in the equipment has facilitated many of the skills possible today. No way anybody was going double backs on the hard gym floors we competed on in the 60's. Reuterboards we used on vault was essentially just a kinda springy wedge board- no way to get enough lift for much more than Yami's on vault.
@@chocdave all true! I competed as a kid 1966 through 1970- my knees were shot at 12 from tumbling, (Springboards were just bent wood boards that gave a bit of lift) landing vaults on hard horsehair mats and gym floor for floor ex and vault runways.
Женственной гимнастика была
It’s amazing to compare this to today’s gymnastics. The most Difficult trick on the floor exercises was probably a cart wheel. Not even a back tuck!
Keep watching. You are describing the compulsory routine. In the optionals they were doing many somersaults and although not shown here two gymnasts did twisting somersaults. The floor was not a mat, just a thin carpet on wood and in smaller meets they didn't even have that. And in many gyms no floor mats either. Today they are on what is almost a trampoline with four inch springs.
@@chocdave I did gymnastics many years ago when I was a young girl. The floor was like a carpet as described. I wish that they had the “trampoline” floor mats like they have today!
Muy bueno todo el video.
Me encantó ver las gimnastas de esa época! Felicitaciones y gracias.❤
Шикарное выступление🌹🌹🌹🏆❤️❤️❤️🤸♀️🤸♀️❤
Прекрасная атмосфера тогдашней гимнастики!❤
I’m curious what the score criteria was.
Me too
Обязательная и произвольная программа очень даже различались. Обязательная - это совершенно одинаковая программа с одинаковыми элементами доля всех участниц. Доля каждого разряда была своя обязательная.
Вот это я понимаю: при такой комбинации упражнений травм можно избежать.А это главное для жизни.Не то,что сейчас.Выполняют убийственные фляки и т.д. и становятся инвалидами.😮
Это соревнования в обязательной программе!
What a beautiful body!! ❤
I can understand Russian but it's not easy to do grammar very well. They have dative, accusative, etc. He speaks slow for a Russian commentator.
Wow those beam routines where easy as Fuck back then!!!!!😂😂
I'd like to see your Lululemon wearing, snarky self performing these routines with their poise and ease. That'd be hilarious 🤠
Except @17:20 Lol. 10 from me 🤣
@@gaelgarciabernal2434 It's really not that hard buddy. Maybe for your 600kg ass
@@gaelgarciabernal2434the bean was narrower andn
А сейчас,мы все продали и все просрали ,вот и пачки задних ,частные структуры ,везде ,нажива на всем ,нет не пластики не красоты движений,а у американцев ещё и вульгарно всё выглядит ,везде шоу !
Great Astakhova!
Tak dobre
1964年の東京オリンピックの日本のジムナスト、池田敬子さん相原俊子さん小野清子さん中村多仁子さん辻宏子さん千葉吟子さんの演技を再度、見たいですね!
@17:28 WOLF TURN BACK IN 64 😲 WOW. 🔟 from me 👍🏾
@35:59 WOW Shannon Miller did modern good 👍🏾. 🔟 from me
БЫЛА ВЕЛИКАЯ ДЕРЖАВА И МОШНЕЙШАЯ К.Г.Б.КОТОРАЯ ОБЕРЕГАЛА СПОРТСМЕНОВ ОТ ВЫХОДКИ ЗАПАДНЫХ ФУНКЦИОНЕРОВ.А СЕЙЧАС ЧТО ТВОРИТСЯ КРУГОМ РАЗВАЛ.
Прекрасные кадры и ужасное комментирование ! Рот не закрывает ни на минуту,перекрывает музыку и мешает просмотру !
спс, интересно было смотреть
В моё время это кажется 3 юнвшесктй разряд 😂
Спасибо за видео!!! Но нынче в спортивной гимнастике иные правила... Я сам гимнаст, уже - "бывший", и я знаю как оценивались все программы. Уже в начале 90х изменилась система начисления балов... т.е. в многоборье и в отдельных видах все начиналось с нуля... Там уже не было обязательной и так называемой произвольной программы... Извините, но я вам высказываю свое мнение как было уже в 90х...
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They may only look tall.
Is Čáslavská shown here? 🤔
Several times. Blond beehive shown on compulsory floor and optional beam and floor.
@@chocdave thank you! 💗
Dismounts compared to today 😂
No springs in the beam and mats were so poor they didn't really help you. Bars were flimsy and regularly broke. On Bars the level of difficulty was way higher because a different set of bars had been developed. Several gymnasts in 1968 had somersaulting dismounts.
Взрослые тети делают детские элементы. Довольно забавно, но простительно для 60-летней давности.
優雅
エレガンス
Women is older?
Yes
so femininely done in those days. now m2f trans doing death defying feats. jumping more higher than their height. how bizarre!
What I really dislike about today's gymnastics is those ridiculous tattooish designs on the leotards and corn field hair dos. Back in the day it was about beauty and grace
Nobody cares
😂😂😂😂
how primitive it looks now
This looks like child's play compared to what is to come in only a couple of years. Really sloppy too
лучше смотреть без этого саркастического трёпа, без звука !
Pathetic omg. Senior Citizen Gymnasts
Какие красивые женщины, не то шо сегодня
Да за 60 лет гимнастика шагнула? Мягко выражение