WW2 Memorial Day and the Threat of Unexploded Ordnance: Russian Roulette (Dispatch 80)
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2014
- With the ceasefire in eastern Ukraine holding, the city of Donetsk is slowly beginning to fill with people. As the fear of sudden death from shelling begins to fade - for now - a few thousand people gathered this week at the city’s World War II memorial for Donbas Liberation Day. The event, which commemorates when Soviet armies forced the Nazis from the region in 1943, featured veterans speaking about that conflict, as well as those fighting in the current struggle.
In addition to being able to celebrate victories old and new, the people of the Donetsk region are now able to count the costs of the brutal fighting over the past few months. VICE News headed to the town of Ilovaisk to see how the DNR are delivering food aid to beleaguered residents, who for weeks have been without gas, electricity, and water. Not only are the civilians of the town facing a humanitarian crisis, the threat of unexploded ordnance from the fighting also looms large. Now, small but dedicated teams are trying to dispose of the ordnance before more civilians get hurt.
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The Old Peoples Republic. Its like an old Soviet retirement community.
cuz most people left, only old people left who has nowhere to go.. along with terrorists that try to protect them
i mean would you stay if u are getting bombed every day?
@@televizor6363 In 2023 I feel no pity for these fools. They are the same monkeys that screamed for Russia in Episode 1. The same monkeys who now say "please putin save us'. And now Putin has come to save them. By completely obliterating cities and killing tens of thousands of civilians (more than 9 years of Donbass war) in 1 year. Your prayers have been answered, grandma, Putin is here to save you.
This guy has never seen weed lol
true story :D
I dont think weed would outweigh the adrenaline and stress of bombs, emotional babushkas, and near death experiences
Lol, bit late.. but I’ve seen quite a few of your comments on a lot of these videos 😂
@@baconman2.052 the Afghan army and police love weed or hash before a firefight
@@doobiedoo3692 seems to be a great practice. Worked well with them.
I don't know why but that "please don't smoke inside the car" sticker while driving through a devastated area with a woman talking about being shelled and sleeping in a basement was just... surreal
If all these people are hiding in their basements, how do they know Russians aren't roaming in the town?
They support the russians!
Not only are the civilians of Ilovaisk facing a humanitarian crisis, the threat of unexploded ordnance from the fighting also looms large. Now, small but dedicated teams are trying to dispose of the ordnance before more civilians get hurt.
Paul Rhodes wow that's the first comment that said vice was propaganda for the russian side lol
Paul Rhodes
You really need to check out their other videos. This is the 80th in the series and I can assure you that all of the try to present the facts.
i have watched them all it's all propaganda it's all about the gas pipes and gas fields follow the money
Paul Rhodes
You say you watched them all yet you still claim it's pro-Russian propaganda. At this point I can only assume you're either lying or stupid.
James Stewart
lol, first one I have ever read to.
Why separatist always speak about WW2, like they fought in it or something???
Its the only thing of accomplishment their country has ever done, they have nothing else to be proud of.
30 million people where mobilized in the soviet union many more civilians died...The entire country was involved thats why its called "The Great Patriotic war"
Russian Empire suffered most casualties in WW1 why do not they also call it "The Great Patriotic war" then???
Anton N Because revolution...
Reminds me of the loser 50 year old guy who never stops talking about his high school footballer days.
Why have this series stopped? Last dispatch was uploaded more than one months ago.
Many things happened, that have to be told!
They can easily film ''The Walking Dead'' here. No need for makeup - zombies everywhere.
Keep up the mature and constructive comments! /s
I think only a 13 year old could come up with such a joke.
***** your a fat fuck arent you
***** sadly, this is not a joke, but the reality
THANK YOU! This is why I subscribe to Vice. I want to see all sides of a story.
Thank you Henry. Great job. I like your reporting on both sides(Russian and Ukrainian). You are brave men
Well, probably the only time I am actually kinda happy to hear sound of explosion is during EOD-work. Although I'd probably have placed a ballistic mattress / a blanket made out of car tires in order to minimize the damage caused by the shrapnel. But I suppose you just have to make do with what little you have.
i`m really grateful to VICE team, who`s been working all this time in Ukraine. I really like that you guys have try to show the real picture of this horrific and stupid war, NOT another lie that we hear so often from all sides. Thank you.
For a change, this is not a comment posted by the Russian internet armada.
Now I think that I have a pretty extensive amount of knowledge on military equipment and techniques, but I may be wrong about this. So can someone with some professional level experience answer this? Not a pro Russian/DNR not a fps player that takes himself to serious. The DNR said that the mortar shell was supposed to destroy the railroad, but isn't that highly accurate for a mortar shell I mean it's in the middle of the track. Could that just be bad luck or purposeful? Why would they do that anyways, didn't they plan on taking the city back? I understand it was for cutting off supply lines but still isn't there multiple ways for the DNR to get supplies?
LOL wtf Russia invaded the Ukraine.
Another brainwashed fool. You are probably one of those paranoid fucks who think WW3 is coming. Lmao.
***** LOL but they did
ultimatetrex1999 What? Did what?
***** Is English your first language?
*****
LOL another troll. Who the fuck watches CNN and Fox, were not in our mid 50's you moron.
We jumped into a History Buffs video there
This may sound stupid: does anyone know the music the play in the beginning? I heard it last year in the theatre and have been trying to find out ever since :(
@1:41 If the National Guard and DNR are both Ukrainian then why is there a war going on, between these so called Russian Separatists? With all this fighting going on for so long, I think they've forgot what it was all about.
You don't understand the reason for this war, therefore, the people fighting it must've forgotten it as well? Great logic there mate.
DNR is mostly russian, maybe 20-25% are local ukrainian zombies, who identify themselves as russians anyway.
Lol.
vitaliylobas when Ukr army shelling your Places, Killing your Relatives i am sure You wouldn't be saying that.
Division are more cultural. In East Ukraine most are Russian speaking. In West Ukraine most are Ukrainian speaking.
Add to this quite succesfull in economics Russia just other the border with strong leader and complete economic black hole in Ukraine with circus instead of goverment. Those peoples just do not see any future in Ukraine. They share Russian culture, Russian language, they see that Russia are much more succesfull country than Ukraine. Add to this that they were stripped of any political influence and democratic rights by violent coup in Kiev(and its second such coup actually, so peoples have know what would follow). Attempt to ban Russian language by new Kiev goverment was last straw that started rebellion.
Main problem for rebels are that Russia are really reluctant to take them. Crimea was needed due to Naval base and you have seen how job was done(no casualties, peacefull and effective). In case of Donbass Russian govement cannot left East Ukrainians without support due to Russian population pressure, but at the same do not want to annex it. As result Kiev have false hope that they can crush rebels without negotiations.
4:42 Russia (which is not involved in the fighting according to Putin) delivers a small truck half-filled with boxed food. Meanwhile, back in Russia the outskirts are already fighting over the shortages of food. Only a madman could create such a horror.
+Oleg Hunter In late 2014 www.businessinsider.com/russian-inflation-hits-8-and-there-are-food-shortages-2014-10 Earlier 2015 www.stratfor.com/image/russias-impending-food-shortages And now August 2015 www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2015/08/08/anger-protests-russia-destroys-tons-banned-food/31333793/ Don't be too proud, I can send you food right away.
"There are no Russian occupiers here, no terrorists" Yes, there are just a bunch of men who have blown up a commercial plane, executed dissenters, and killed hundreds of retreating soldiers with weapons they got from Russia. Complete misunderstanding.
This comment shows how stupidly informed you are.
Luke Bruce
explain?
VivaLaCris123 commercial plane-seems so but we dont kno yet
excecuted dissenters -BS
killed hundreds of retreating soldiers- yea there is/was a war goin on
pstockmaster
Well look at the video VICE did when they went into Slovyansk after the Ukranians got control back, they were finding mass graves of innocents.
Exacerbated the situation in the Donetsk Basin. During the last day backed by the Kremlin separatists and Russian troops fired up to 40 times the Ukrainian position.
Linked with the authorities of Ukraine Dmytro Tymczuk military expert said that the separatists attacked, among others, the airport in Donetsk controlled by the Ukrainian army. Witnesses said that the shelling was carried out with a number of villages with a gun "Grad". Ukrainians managed to repel the attack.
In addition, the separatists fired by launchers "Grad" and artillery several towns, among them Marinka, Jasynuwatę, Toneńke and Dogs. The local population militants explained that is responsible for the Ukrainian army. In addition, the Ukrainian separatists fired several outposts and camp in Debalcewie.
No it is from EU press. Who is Tomchuk? Don't even know this guy
Can't see an end to this conflict any time soon.
Isn't that black/yellow/white flag what neo-nazis use in russia?
That is an old flag of Russia from before communism. Some nazis want to create a nazi tsarist Russia so they rock that flag.
is the flag of the Russian Empire
Welcome to the Vice comment section. After reading it you are guaranteed to lose a few IQ points.
Antoha0102 made my day :D
Love the report !
Thank you for being objective !
Good job Langston! I´m sorry for the guy trying to harvest...
4:23 How hard is it to stack those boxes with the right side up?
Thank you vice. I don't own a television yet I am infinitely better informed than those who rely on one. That is due in large part to your efforts.
what was that green digital camo that the soldiers where wearing called at 1:18?
Looks like Russian digital flora pattern
what is the blue-yellow-red flag at 2:22 ?
So I don't understand why the rebels are so eager to return to the days of the Soviet Union, the Soviets didn't exactly treat the Ukrainians all that well, in fact when the Nazi's marched into Ukraine the Ukrainians were actually happy that they were no longer under Stalins rule. Furthermore, to the Soviet Union, Ukraine was just a military base the size of the country, that's it.
thank you vice for good info on all the battles and info in both Ukraine and Iraq, Syria.
Well...One can easily misunderstand that headline
4:45 "Help" from Russia
( 2 minutes earl;ier : "NO RUSSIANS HERE IT IS ALL UKRAINIAN PROPAGANDA OMG !!!" )
there is a difference between relief supplies and army. its good all this people, mostly pooor,have some aid.
your comments are also partisan, so i cant take your comment serious. brainwshed sheeps are on both sides.
He vould have made a small shape charge above the rovket and weighted it to avoided bloeing the trai wires
At 2:30 she says there are no Russian occupiers, but just five seconds ago there's footage of soldiers marching under the flag of the Don Cossack Host.
In fact at 2:40 you can see the same column in the background, flying the same flag.
Wait...what...so thats were the Colonel ended up?
And not a bucket in site....
*blows up power lines*
>_<
if anyone asks....Ukraine did it.
6:23 - No, that's not weed. You should leave that kind of reporting to Hamilton.
0:17 lol wtf Romania's flag in the background ? O.o
Little bit late but that is Kuban flag
00:17 What's that Red/Yellow/Blue flag?
the flag of the don cossacks
It's good to see there are Barney Fifes everywhere :-))))
6:07 probably just wild Sativa L aka Hemp.
If Europe is unwilling to respond to Russia's aggression and the Russian people are unwilling to stand up to to Putin's lies, then both parties deserve everything they get.
Какая агрессия России? Где реальные факты? только один визг и пустые слова! Или слова департамента USA это факт не требующий подтверждения? А что тогда не признает Европа и USA что это они организовали свержение правительства, а?
stupid troll
@@user-vx8dr2wy3yyou on vlads front line yet?
I know how much it can hurt when people make light of the 9/11 tragedy; I lost a very good friend that day. I'll never forget the last words he ever spoke to me: "Allahu Akbar."
Can somebody please tell me why the flag of the DNR looks like the confederate flag just without the stars
Some people still live in the 1940s,even now after a long time the effect Stalin had still lives
Ukraine lost to putin, not rebels. Rebels cant buy or use artillery like the "rebels" did. It takes at least a year to learn how to use artillery with the accuracy they showed. Rebels also run out of artillery shells, these guys diddnt. Rebels run out of food and fuel, these guys diddnt. Rebels go home at night, these guys never did. Rebels have poor logistics, these guys were better than fedex. Rebels could not defeat a national military as easy as these guys did. I think it was all elite russian troops fighting. I think the real rebels played a defensive role only and did zero fighting the last several weeks. But, if the peoples will was for russia to invade, then it still counts.
Rebels are mostly made out of army, veterans and cops. What are you talking about? Imagine Texas seceding, you think there are no people in Texas who know how to operate artillery? Are you really that dumb?
Luke Bruce Im brilliant, youre not. It takes a well trained team to use artillery. These "rebels" did not have this kind of accuracy and sucess until 2weeks ago. And how on earth could they fire a endless supply of mortars? Rebels do not have vast supplies of these shells. It was like a bad Rocky movie. Just as they were about to get knocked out, they suddenly became dominant and couldnt lose. Use your head. Do you support putin? Russia? Or the separatist? Or all 3?
While comment wars rage on, I'm sitting here in no mans land with a cookie stand.
That awkward moment you broadcast to the whole world you have no idea what a cannabis plant looks like...
That's not weed, omg
It would appear to me as though much of the ordinance used by Kiev forces is old Cold War surplus that's prone to failure, both due to age and the substandard quality of most goods produced behind the iron curtain. Sure, some of it was simple and sturdy, but otherwise the quality control was all over the map.
What does DNR stands for ?
the Donetsk Peoples Republic
("Peoples" if are speaking russian = "Narodnaya")
If I understood u right u wanna know for what they are fighting for?For freedom,independence from UA and new country,allies with Russia.We won't get any millionairs in goverment,or jews))).And if u're speaking ENG its called DPR
to not be burned alive may be ?
***** First of all Im not Russian,I live in Donetsk.And I don't blame all jews,I meant Kolomoiskiy and Poroshenko,main jews of Ukraine
Oh, thank god, the weed is okay!
I understand why you put the explosion at the beginning as a teaser, but what I learned during my time working at a local station was that this trick also lets the viewer know that the explosion will be the most or even only exciting part of the piece and so they may quit watching. I guess on RUclips it doesn't matter so much because you've already gotten the view count but even so, do you think the advantages outweigh the risks? Thanks
It will be a huge pain in the ass to replace those wires. They have done more damage to the railways than the whole conflict. It's kind of ironic.
Equal measures of cereal and sugar. What are they doing with all that sugar? That's over a pound of sugar per person per week. Half cereal covered with half sugar in the morning? Or is it grain that expands when cooked? If the shelling doesn't get them, the Cossack aid may lead to diabetes. And only one can of fish and two cans of stew--how large are the cans? I feel sorry for the poor citizens caught in the fighting between the two sides.
80 episode !!!
when show the Russian soldier?
where Russian army?
Looks like the profesor did more harm then he expected ;D
Its december 26, 2020...I watch this as a Itish American living in Philadelphia PA 19145....and I watch this and windermmmmI just watch and watch what will happen next nect
Ukranian warriors fought Nd didd in our both that they weryddsxxx!!!
How come they're blowing up the railway? There must be some reason they're not taking all the explosives to a quarry for this. I must be missing something.
Oh never mind, that's just where the shell landed.
That's not weed at 6:25 lol.
So, is there a translator with them or do all Ukrainians understand english?
translator obviously
translator
Once again
VICE could you show the russian army in ukraine next?
Not the obvious volunteers from russia that are in ukraine but like Russian troops with their choppers and jets and tanks, all with the russian flags?
thanks
They were there without insignia on their uniforms. How do you feel 9+ years later?
@6:30 thats not weed
Simon looks like Boris from Goldeneye
i am 98% sure they could just pick up that unexploded shell.... especially considering it didn't fuckin blow up after the first attempt at detonating it with 200gms of TNT.
That weed is the "bomb" yo!
Love these reports, but this guy isn't going to live too long.
Was there any commonsense present while making the decision to blow up that bomb...on the railway? The idea was to keep everything intact.....not fuck the rail line up.
1:50 manipulative translation. She said we are all from Ukraine, we have the same nationality. The translation was, we are all Ukrainians. She did not say that.
6:28 that a " little bit of weed" is actually Ragweed, i guess you are not a plant expert ether ....
Lol, I love how they're sabotaging the train tracks under the guise of cleaning up unexploded ordinance. It looks like they're experimenting with their ability to make IED's. The Ukrainian military will have a whole different type of problem when they start using those in combination with ambush tactics. SMH. I just can't believe that this reporter didn't realize what they were actually doing.
2:40 Alright chill out love, it's only a basement and some rockets ;) hehe
8:02 A GEIGER COUNTER NOISE YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS BUT DID YOU HEAR
It is terrible how they remake history, stealing that ww2 victory from soviet ukrainian soldiers as “uuuhohoh they were actually fAsCiStS too”
I bet this guy making a speech in 1:15 is clearly a russian trooper
'The ukrainian army tried to shell the railway and did not succeed.'
And then the retards fuck it up themselves. Fuck they are dumb
"I don't want to get too close.." lol you were already way too close if it went off. Just look in there
Why do people even mention America here? There's been no troops or CIA or drones dispatched in the Ukraine, so what the hell are you moaning about?
Pretty sure that isn’t weed growing
Армия может выстрелить в свой народ ТОЛЬКО ОДИН РАЗ! Следующий раз она стреляет уже в ЧУЖОЙ народ!
"An army can fire on its citizens only once, next time its firing on someone elses citizens" - George Washington
6:13 "Don't want to get to close" you was to close 😬
Thats what she said
6:26 that's not cannabis its clearly ragweed.
lol epic fail vice. I thought all your reporters knew what weed looks like.
@0:20 Russian invader drifting across
I like the new reporter better then Simon.
He is unbiased because he hasn't been fucked by any side yet.
Can someone explain this whole Ukraine problem like who's fighting who? And why?
Smoke the weed and we'll have total peace, at least for a few hours :D
It's not cannabis at 6.30, it's Ragweed, a weed widely spread in Russia.
This is without a doubt the funniest Dispatch of all 80. Russian intelligence on display here!!!! Come on Comrades Boris and Igor, what say you to your "Glory to Russia"? I am surprised you even know how to grow a potato.
Бедные люди.
Unfortunately thats not how you do EOD.
6:27 that's not weed what is this guy doing working for vice lol
Their flag looks the American confederate one from the civil war, minus the stars for the states.
If you damage the railway, won't that hurt your own infrastructure?
They just fked up some perfectly fine railroad line.
I think that the solution is that the Eastern half of Ukraine needs some form if autonomy.
Blowing up ordinances on railroad tracks? Come on guys, use your brain for half a second.
The ukrainians armee, take them, bring them away to another place and nothing happens...the russian military "teacher" let it on the railway and explode it there, destroying everything...poor logic...as their brains are...
VICE's very own weed expert.
6:30 LOL
Umm that's not weed bro.