A DEMON MUSICAL?! // Hazbin Hotel S1x1 REACTION!
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You guys, skipped the pilot episode. Go watch and they will answer most of your questions.
@@brunnogomes5821 you replied to a post saying where to find the pilot asking them to watch the pilot lmao that's amazing
I hope you guys actually start listening to the songs because they’re important to the plot. Idk why some reactors choose to talk over them
yeah sean watch the poilet beofr u watch the rest of it and keeep ur eyes on alastor he is important
Is it more of you ignoring what's happening on the screen, going off on random tangents only to come back and question what's going on after the show explained it?
If you struggle with the singing, you can't watch this. These songs are plot heavy. They tell plot through these songs. Most of your questions were answered in these songs.
Not really a fair assessment. I generally dislike musicals, and did take a bit to warm up to this show. After watching the pilot, I was actually surprised it was a full on musical; I expected it would just be Charlie and Alastor doing the singing with everyone around them like, "wtf?" Then after the episode 4 break I binged Helluva Boss, accepted the fact that musicals can be good, and now I love both shows. Watching them cringe in their reaction after seeing the full series is definitely frustrating now that I know how good the show is, but honestly if I had watched this right after I watched episode 1 I probably would be agreeing with Dustin.
@@shaskusmasthe pilot was a musical, and like you said so is lots of Helluva Boss. I’m glad to the come to enjoy it, but there have been at least 3 songs the company endorsed and made into real things made by fans, telling extra parts of the story.
Insane talks about Alistair appearing in hell.
Radio Play talks about him coming back after 7 years.
Addict is back story, involving Angel, Cherry, and Valentino.
It’s ALWAYS been about the songs and development
@@JohnDavidHillman I'm not really sure what you're getting at. I'm talking about starting the show after only watching the pilot and not appreciating it fully until I delved deeper into the fandom, and you're like, it was ALWAYS like that. Weird how people don't know things until they know them.
Seriously. Talking through these songs can't be done. You guys have to pay attention. To be honest you really should have watched the Pilot on RUclips as well
Yeah this is a bad take, I hate musicals, so I skipped the songs and was never lost or had questions except the one song where she talks about how she killed the angel. I’ve no doubt the songs ADD to the characters but they are not required viewing to understand the show.
The songs are important to the story btw! The lyrics move the story along, so be sure to listen out for them.
Yes, that's driving me nuts. Like they missed how the point of the extermination is that Adam WANTS to kill the Sinners for fun.
@@Lady-Seashell-Bikini exactly
@@Lady-Seashell-Bikini are you sure about that? I watched this whole show Saturday and skipped the songs (I think I had to go back and listen to 2 because of questions) and I fully understood the show and plot, I think they make it pretty clear Adam just likes killing in the non song bits he is in
Watching these reactions have made me realize how many people actually have no idea that Lilith is an actual character, though mostly in jewish stories, she was the first woman made as Adam's equal. Both from the same earth. But she wasn't treated as equal so she left, and Adam asked god for a new, more suitable wife for him. So god made Eve from one of Adam's ribs, so that she may be more subserviant to him. Lilith became the mother of demons.
Shocking how few people know who Lilith is. She's been in so many fantasy books, movies and tv shows over the last twenty years.
@@robertgronewold3326 for real, I’m not Jewish and I’m not one to read biblical texts… but like… I feel like I’ve known about Lilith since childhood. I’ve heard/watched so many stories involving her.
i had totally thought that lillith was sort of a fictional addition to seperate hazbin from actual religion, but knowing she is in actual mythos makes it so much better
I know thanks to the binding of isaac and evangelion😂
Someone around like 700AD wrote a dirty series of acrostic poems while pretending to be Ben Sirah (the writer of Ecclesiasticus/Sirach its part of the Deuterocanon from around 200 BC, and is not to be confused with Ecclesiastes).
It included stories like how the Sultan's daughter was cursed with perpetual flatulence, that Ben Sirah was Jeremiah's son and grandson because Jeremiah was forced by thugs to jerk off into a mikvah (a ritual bathing pool), and then his daughter took her ceremonial bath and got pregnant (one of the earlier pregnant from a toilet seat/hot tub stories, I think Snopes lists it as the oldest recorded).
And one story goes that God made Adam and Lilith and Lilith thought she should be Adam's equal and so should get to ride him cowgirl style some of the time. Adam didn't put up with that, so Lilith shouted the Tetragramaton in outrage and abandoned him, and she became a demonic entity like a succubus, while God made Eve from Adam.
It's a silly story explaining why Genesis 1 has God creating Man and Woman as equals, and then in Genesis 2 God makes man and then woman later as his subordinate.
Lilith is not actually in any of the actual lore. She was added sometime during or after the medieval period. She's basically an OC
Half the people in the first musical number are being murdered or eaten by the other half. Not sure that's giving off "great place" vibes. One of the chorus lines is quite literally "another shitty day in hell."
It seems like its thier thing tho.. like wow we are really doing vor erasure over here.
Yeah but by your own argument they are still being “murdered”…. If they are in hell and being tortured being murdered is still a relief and a logical inconsistency in the show, what does it matter if it’s an angel or a demon killing you….
@@corvus2512if a demon kills you, you don’t die. You just respawn in hell. It’s also agonizing pain to put themselves back together. When an Angel kills you, you’re gone from existence.
So the point of having the souls go to Heaven is so Heaven stops murdering them every year. She is under the impression that the reason why Heaven is doing this purge is from overpopulation, so by moving souls to Heaven there won't be too many souls in Hell to be killed.
Also, if you didn't like the songs, you may not be able to enjoy the show very much. Songs are a very big part of this show.
Yeah, it's almost as if watching a pilot is a good idea for a series. Because it explains the premise so I don't know why anyone thinks watching the show and skipping the pilot is a good idea.
@msbkaioken136 As much as I agree with how much better it would be to have started with the Pilot, at this point I just think this show isn't for them. One can watch the first episode without the Pilot, there will be some plot holes, but from watching this reaction, they really just didn't vibe/get the core of the show.
@@Excellor64 Yeah, I've since learned that they apparently did react to the pilot. After this, it's exclusively on their patreon incredible also I definitely agree this reaction was really bad.
2 songs for episode.
This is a musical... And really the best part of this show is that, the music, if you don't like the musical numbers I think this is not a show for you.
@@ArabianCrescent "Hell is for Ever" is one of the fan favourites, only Sean seems to put attention to the music, the guy with glasses looked disgusted the entire reaction... Because he doesn't like musicals, totally valid, I didn't like either some years ago.
I like a lot their reactions to other shows, and I think is not good for them to react to something that they didn't want to react to, just because it is popular with their audience. It's bad to force them.
Hell is forever is one of the best@@ArabianCrescent
Yeah dont force yourself to watch if you dont care for musicals, a lot of the plot is advanced through the music, and you will lose a lot as well as not give your best foot, if you dont like them. Its fine, not all content is for everyone.
Totally understand. That's exactly why I dropped out after watching the first episode. @@VLK_Static
@@ddrase show is mid anyway, you're not missing anything good. cringe songwriting, mediocre story. it's just edgelord bait for autistics and furries. it's hot topic in a can.
*sees a whole song number about existential yearly genocide as people are brutalized and dying in horrific and painful ways in the background*
"So why would anyone hate being in hell?"
That's some truly next level media illiteracy right there, ngl.
To be fair to them, there are plenty of demons in episode one who seem to be having a great time, and the vibes are very light
Once they get to episode 4 and the tone shifts people who get sucked into the cheery vibes of episode one will get it
@@SaiyanSerenityVDemons: "Another shitty day in hell."
Yeah, sounds like they're having a "great" time.
@@lich109Obviously, I'm commenting on the tone though - it's very easy to get swept up in it and not get the full gravity of how bad it is down there. The show will demonstrate it seriously in time, so I don't think it's such a bad thing that some people don't get it right away, that's all I'm saying. I think people should be more patient and let reactors absorb the show at their own pace, not everybody's viewing experience was the same as yours or mine, that's the point of reaction content.
@@SaiyanSerenityV The tone is meant to juxtapose what you are seeing for the sake of humour, the only people not clearly miserable are Charlie and the cannibals. This is not hard to figure out.
@@lich109 Listen, I understand this. I got this during my first watch, I am the kind of person who loves to analyse every minute detail and overthink author intent, and I pay attention to details and framing choices. Clearly, you do too. Not everybody is like this, some people need to get to a point where the show says the quieter part out loud, and that's okay too. I understand juxtaposition, I am just trying to empathize here with reactors who obviously have to prioritise making content instead of sitting there silently at full attention. They will get it soon enough. That is what I'm trying to say here.
Lilith if I remember correctly is actually from the Jewish mythos, they seem to not be limiting themselves to just Christianity but other Abrahamic lore
Lilith is from Jewish mythos originally, but the story they use to introduce her is not the version of Lilith we grow up hearing of. In Jewish culture, Lilith is a succubus demon who preys on married men and causes illnesses in children and babies. She's PURE EVIL, and while I sort of like the 'feminist' version of the story, that's not the version we grow up hearing. It's a very christian take, as in Judaism, a woman refusing to submit to her husband wouldn't be enough to be outcast. If you've ever met a Jewish family, you know the WIFE calls the shots
In the youtube series Helluva Boss (same universe) they have a asteroid shower called Azathoths Tears aka Cthullu Lovecraft mythology.
I have no idea if im spelling these names right
I think people compare it too much to established religions. It borrows themes from it but so does lord of the rings and but no one mentions that about it.
@@Moonstriker2514 did you not read the comment?
@@themyth1877 which comment of mine are you referring to?
Ehh I'll delete it not really relevant
You missed the key point in Hell is Forever, Adam straight up says they do the exterminations because he thinks they're fun. You were too busy asking questions you missed the answers.
Yeah the combo of not watching the pilot and talking over the songs was not great for understanding whats going on
@@jazzycat8917 legit missed the whole point. and if they read up, when they're killed by angel blade they get manifested into the walls and grounds of hell, and when they just die in hell by any means, they go through painful rejuvenation
LOL IF THEY READ UP!
@@SeanTanktopif only reading up was super easy and barely an inconvenience lol
You are allowed to dislike the show, but your reaction came off as highschool brats gossiping on the theater kids. Sorry not for me.
Happy Day in Hell:
Morgan: They seem pretty Happy in Hell.
The Demons singing with Charlie:
Another *Shitty* Day in Hell!
They need to actually listen to the songs jfc
Yeah, this Hell is only fun place to be for the privileged few. It's like the worst city in the world mixed with prison that has no guards, that is exclusively run by the inmates.
There are the people who like to watch bukkake and those who get bukkake'd on. Those who like to cannibalize others and those who get cannibalised. To get by you pretty much have to join a "gang", and that means selling your soul to an Overlord and being a slave for the rest of your afterlife. Those who avoid that fate constantly have to struggle to get by and look over their shoulder since there's nobody else looking after them.
The whole system is built on exploitation, abuse and total disregard for the wellbeing of others. People do drugs, have casual sex, fight and destroy stuff because that stuff is only fun that you're going to get in the midst of all that misery.
Seriously, she realize that for every people "getting fun" killing, hurting, molesting and eating someone, there is someone else being eaten, hurt, molested and killed, right? They are not getting fun.
If they weren't talking during 3/4 of the episode ( and entirely during the songs ) they might have a chance to understand.
@@FrancescaAkira89 babes there is a thing called a vor fetish......dont look it up
The pilot on youtube currently has 99 million views and even before the season released it was like 45 million. So idk how it got souch traction before but it worked lol
Because it's an animated pilot that's also an entire 30 minutes? When indie animation wasn't even famous? Which is what brought more and more indie animations?
The pilot was sitting at like 94 95 million views, even before season, one began.
And before the pilot many people were waiting and looking at the short animations of the pilot that was being created because this already had a big fanbase before the pilot
@@thedepresseddemon8039 Yeah, this person's numbers are just incorrect I don't know what they're talking about. The pilot had way more views than what they're saying before season 1 actually released because the show already had a giant fanbase even before season, 1 began.
I feel like Morgan focussed too much on the bukkake films, and less on the 'sticking barbed wire in his holes' part of the Happy Day in Hell song...
Right like yes there are things that are just sexual but nothing is “wrong” with it, but there’s also all the murder, drugs, gangs, and all the other horrible shit that happens in the world gets filtered directly down into hell
@@qrat6843 wait wait wait... murder and drugs are on the same level...this is why the show confuses me
@grannyfarts4177 According to Christianity which this "heaven" and "Hell" are based on. It's all equal
I agree with you, but funnily enough, in the song the demon who got barbed wire stick in his hole said later that he liked it.
@@Morganinthebarwe don’t really know how divine judgement makes it’s / their decisions on who goes where. This is shown later in the show.
I feel like the "Hell" of this show is one of your own creation, where Lucifer doesnt have to actively torture you, his "gift" of free will and sense of right and wrong tortures you the more you indulge in your own damage
Yes, this is for sure. Your choices, indulging in the sin that got you down here and actively choosing those sins over and over, is its own torture. You live in the worst version of the world above, death didn't save you from paying rent and working for a living and dealing with every other shitty person who lives down here with you. It is made very clear that moments of joy and indulgence are present, but they are always presented as a brief and costly reprieve from the pain of it. Its also clear that Lucifer himself is here as a punishment, too. We don't see what all of his "dreams" for creation were very clearly just yet but its obvious that he did not have evil intentions, and his personal hell is being crowned "king" in a world surrounded by the worst examples of the choices he made.
There is more to this show, I truly hope they get to see more of it since they seemed to take the most superficial takes of it off the bat.
Yeah the punishment for a life of sin is you get to keep living that life only everything is worse. You still need to eat pay rent and work only. Only hey guess what you now work for a guy you probably had to sell your soul too. And the fucked up thing is it doesn’t have to be this way. It’s implied later the Lucifer tried to make hell nice in the beginning. The hotel was originally his and he even has a theme park as mentioned in hell of a boss the sister series to this. But people are awful and just keep bringing violence and chaos upon themselves.
But why isn't heaven the same? A lot of dictators and murders would be in heaven.
@@lunavioleta001 there likely are terrible people in heaven. We don't yet know all the rules of Hazbin Hotel/Helluva Boss's heaven and hell, but look at Adam. Just from this episode it's pretty clear he sucks. It's safe to say that there are likely other folks in heaven just like him or worse. I think what this show is going to be doing at some point is picking at Christianity's hypocrisies. To what extent and how, I don't know yet.
@@tenassidy3483 But it shows like only a very few angels knew about the execution. Even most of the Angels on the table voting didn't know. While in hell, most demons are portrayed as murderers and "sex deviants". And again, with Adam it isn't good. The only asshole angel is the one that likes sex. This show is almost anti sex positivity. It's so agnostic centrist liberal with its execution. I really enjoyed the show and songs, but the messaging and some of the execution was just so vanilla, safe and generic.
Until they show cannibals, serial killers, dictators, and violators in heaven (at least half of them), then the so-called "nuance" is worthless. Just by the fact that the character that died in the end went to heaven just ruins most of the "nuance".
I feel like yall are missing the fact that hell is supposed to be more like the slums of the dead and heaven is supposed to be like the upper eschalons of the dead. To me, the show is about being able to change no matter where you come from.
And as far as "Ooo! Its written by theater kids thinking that they're naughty!" That's hysterical, but it gets a LOT darker than this episode. (My personal favorite episode is episode 4.)
That whole theater kid complaint is such a vapid nothing thing to say like bro grow up.
@@msbkaioken136She didn’t mean it in a mean way, it’s just how it came across. Obviously this is the first episode and their opinion could change.
@@nubbylittlecat1753 It was absolutely in a derogatory way. And they're coming into this show with an incredibly bad faith mindset barely paying attention and taking single words and discussing them and. Almost nothing else for the entire discussion like come on.
Yeah this feels like such a dumb complaint lmao
Agreed, they seemed very negative immediately, how I took it, is they're obviously just too cool, dark, and metal. You can just tell that everyone should aspire to be just like them.
Well, to answer your question as to why this got picked up, the pilot DOES have 100 million views...
I think looking at this as "baby's first R-rated cartoon" dismisses the whole thing as a shock-value show, when it is not really supposed to be. It's hard to have a show set in Hell that doesn't feature cursing, sex, and violence, so of course those things are going to be rampant, but it isn't all about aiming to gross us out or force a visceral reaction from us. The R-ratedness is not the point of the show, it's a byproduct of the setting and support for the actual themes. The charm comes from a sympathetic and likeable cast trying to better themselves in an environment that very much does not facilitate betterment. Or to put it non-pretentiously, it's digestibly funny and entertaining without being distractingly over-the-top in that regard, in my opinion anyway (I'm 26, was never a theater kid).
And on that note, the torture that takes place in this Hell isn't necessarily literal. Hell is basically the most dangerous and depressing aspects of Earth, dialed up to eleven and inescapable. Crime, murder, assault, inequality, etc are all unpoliced (sinners basically respawn if they're killed outside of exterminations), people are given free access to vices to drown themselves in and self-destruct, and everyone is convinced that it can never get any better. On paper maybe getting killed by Heaven would be considered an end to suffering, but realistically how many people would want to just stop existing? Death is scary, that's why the concept of even a shitty afterlife exists to begin with.
ALSO, I cannot stress this enough, this show is a musical! Two songs per episode, all of them plot-important. Personally I think they're all bangers, but if you don't like theatrical Broadway-style musical numbers, maybe this just isn't the show for you.
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Lilith is from the jewish version of the creation story. In said version She was Adam's first wife but was banished from Eden and replaced by Eve for refusing to obey him. Afterwards she would become the originator of the Demon race who are considered her children, they sometimes being referred to as the "Lilium"
She is not in canon of Jewish Mythos, she is in an off branch story (fan fiction) that is used to explain why in genesis women are created twice. Once from the earth and once from Adam’s rib.
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Regardless of if it was present in the original text the story of Lilith was told by respected Jewish sources so calling it fan fiction is just weird and feels like a way to disingenuously discredit its relevance. If you want to equate it in modern terms it’s more like the equivalent to some like the mandalorian or Clone wars. It’s not written by the original writer but it still very much counts as “canon”. It’s just that There’s a group of purists who don’t count it and prefer to only see the original work as “canon”.
@@VendettaProduction01 You say 'canon' as if the version that you read now is the only version of the Lilith story. Stories change over the centuries, people have their own spin on things and sometimes when something does not fit their narrative and world view, they cut it out all together. Lilith was even included in the very early versions of the bible, but was edited out over the first few decades that the books were transcribed. And to emphasize another story that got changed a lot, Noah's arc. You know the current version, but the earlier Babylonian version that they literally found carved on a rock and is 700 years older than the one in current religious texts told the story of a merchant named Noah who had a god given vision of a flash flood, at which point he warned the town he lived in, and they lashed boats together, loaded them with people and animals, and wound up surviving the flood as it came down the valley. Quite a big change compared to a dude putting two of each animal on a boat and a flood wiping out the entire world. So as I said, stories change. Mythology is hard to put down to a 'canon'.
@@VendettaProduction01 "(fan fiction)" - Kabbalah.
@@thewerewolff7248 "respected sources" yeah, no. Someone around like 700AD wrote a dirty series of acrostic poems while pretending to be Ben Sirah (the writer of Ecclesiasticus/Sirach its part of the Deuterocanon from around 200 BC, and is not to be confused with Ecclesiastes).
It included stories like how the Sultan's daughter was cursed with perpetual flatulence, that Ben Sirah was Jeremiah's son and grandson because Jeremiah was forced by thugs to jerk off into a mikvah (a ritual bathing pool), and then his daughter took her ceremonial bath and got pregnant (one of the earlier pregnant from a toilet seat/hot tub stories, I think Snopes lists it as the oldest recorded).
And one story goes that God made Adam and Lilith and Lilith thought she should be Adam's equal and so should get to ride him cowgirl style some of the time. Adam didn't put up with that, so Lilith shouted the Tetragramaton in outrage and abandoned him, and she became a demonic entity like a succubus, while God made Eve from Adam.
It's a silly story explaining why Genesis 1 has God creating Man and Woman as equals, and then in Genesis 2 God makes man and then woman later as his subordinate.
Lilith is not actually in any of the actual lore. She was added sometime during or after the medieval period. She's basically an OC
The original pilot has 99 MILLION views, so a lot of people were interested!
I don't understand going into react to a show that is billed as and built around being a musical, and then pulling faces and rolling your eyes about there being songs.......in a MUSICAL? Buddy be so serious right now
I watched the show, skipped the songs, enjoyed it. It can be done
@@corvus2512 L take.
@@joohoneybun It’s not a ‘take’…. What does your comment even mean? Are you capable of expressing yourself through language? Are you saying I’m wrong? Which isn’t possible because it isn’t an opinion, I did in fact enjoy the show without watching the songs, that’s just an event that happened. Or are you so fragile that seeing someone say the songs aren’t needed for one to enjoy the show angered you so much you had to comment? Try using words to better convey your meanings or you know, keep your mouth shut
@@corvus2512 snoooorts.
@@corvus2512it might not be needed to enjoy the story, but they are important. It’s a musical. The songs are important to the development. You chose to skip key part of the show simply because you’re too pretentious to sit through the song once.
Death is permanent if by the hand of angels. No respawn. Hell gets overpopulated so they come down to empty the bin, so they can never pose a threat in sheer numbers
I mean I'm sure the cannibals are having a good time, but not the people getting eaten 😅
Or, even a cannibal can be afraid to be killed or assaulted any given day; it's supposed to be a dangerous place.
If you’re killed in hell you pretty much just respawn but if you’re killed by an angelic weapon you just stop existing, so ig like a final forever death.
This hell is more of just a place of anarchy, and of more of a you’re torturing yourself type deal
It doesn’t quite sound like this show, the style and humor, is for you guys. Seemed very critical, and imo some of it just doesn’t click with you all.
i think some of yall went in negatively and that may be influencing your opinion. i understand a lot of the the vulgar themes may be comfortable topics for you guys but literally almost every other reaction to this show has proved that not everyone is and that is evidence that the shock value will very from to person.
as for why anyone would not like living in hell, sean touched on it bit that just cuz you can do whatever you want doesn't mean things are great. what it DOES mean is that everyone else can ALSO can do what they want. that includes, r#pe, murder, assault, torture, theft and so on. every day you run the exponentially higher risk of suffering some if not all of those things on a daily basis or take your chances against the angels in which you just cease to exist if they kill you.
lastly the songs are real important and give a lot of context to the story so they should be listened to. i feel like if the attitude of hearing a song start up wasn't "ugh another dumb song" after every one you might enjoy them more. just some criticism. overall a good reaction. hope yall continue to geve
Please pay more attention. The lyrics matter and you talked over the end of hell is forever
Hell Hierarchy:
• Lucifer
• Charlie & Lilith
• 7 Deadly Sins
• Ars Gotias
• Overlords
• Sinners
• Hellborns
• Imps & Hell Hounds
There is a sister show called Helluva Boss
Only edit to this hierarchy I'd make is the position of Hellborns, Doesn't make much sense for hellborns to be below sinners, or even on this list tbh, Hellborn seem to come from everywhere on the ladder in hell.
Also Imps and Hellhounds would be considered "hellborn" same with some overlords..
@@dreymak4071While I would change "Hellborns" to "Most hellborns" for the reasons you outlined here, from what I've understood there _is_ a pretty valid reason for the average sinner to be ranked higher than the average hellborn. If hellborns die they _die_ die, while sinners reform unless they're killed by something like angelic weapons.
It’s important to keep in mind that while He’ll might be great if you enjoy all the murder and debauchery and/or are powerful enough to not be exploited 99% of people don’t fall into that category
I think they’re overthinking it. It’s hell according to whatever the creators wanted it to be. I could say hell is full of cats and make a story off that. It doesn’t have to make sense or go by the general idea for hell
I think the difference is it isn't strictly trying to be shock humor, Hazbin Hotel (and basically anything Viv does) actually has a sincere core to it. Sure, it's hell, but the show isn't setting Charlie up to be humiliated for yucks. What she wants is an uphill battle, and it's meant to feel hopeless, or even pointless, because the question of whether damned souls can be redeemed is the whole thing she's trying to prove. She's a flat protagonist who is meant to withstand the blows dealt by the world around her as it bids her to despair and give up like they have. She's an optimist in a hopeless situation. It is a REAL, earnest arc to put her convictions to the test, believing in people even when they won't believe in themselves.
Viv can't help herself being a Wholesome-Heather, frankly. You're right, she's emulating what she understands to be naughty and hellish, which falls short, because ultimately... she just wants these characters to grow to love each other and achieve their happy ending. And I find that adorable.
Morgan sayng bukkake like it was the first word she learned
Charlie Morningstar is like, the best non-Disney Disney princess.
Charlie, why you trying to compliment yourself?
@@lightningjadejavier Daddy issues. Comes with the territory. 😂
Me a full-blown adult watching this show that I have waited for YEARS to see: 😭
I'm here not for the "edgyness" but for the characters (& their design), story, and the fire music.
Hell is Forever is such a great song! One of my favorites on the soundtrack! ❤ Too bad you guys talked through it 😞
They literally talked over the answers to the questions they were asking
Why are you guys focusing on the bukkake part lmao
She _really_ fixated on that part for some reason :P
Me when I just talk over the songs instead of pausing and miss the story💀
Whilst not explained in the show itself its been said when sinners are killed by a holy weapon their souls are completely destroyed and the remaining dark energy dissipates and becomes part of hell itself.
I.e.- the eyes in the walls everywhere. Imagine having your consciousness tied to _that_ . You’re just stuck there forever.
You know a show should probably explain that better.
@@et5216 it’s ultimately not important. The show tells you that angels kill sinners permanently and that’s all you need to know. The how it works isn’t really important
I mean, the show absolutely does eventually explain this. Just not in the first episode, obviously.
@@msbkaioken136 the show never explains what actually happens to the souls of sinners who are kill permanently. It just tells you the sinner is gone forever.
1:26 it had 3 million views the 2nd day it came out when I watched it but it had also had a couple other proof of concept teasers & merchandise to fund the pilot before it happened. It was successful before it even started. The biggest/1st thing was probably the short music/video trailer of "inside of every demon is a rainbow"
Yea I was just gonna write it as millions immediately but you said it better than I ever could😅
People who don't know Lilith surprises me. I guess no one has watched supernatural shows depicting the fall of Lucifer before? Almost everyone has a Lilith in them.
Ikr almost all shows I’ve watched that feature Christian supernatural stuff always have Lilith. And I haven’t watched a lot 😂
I honestly don't think it is meant to be edgy for being edgy's sake. It's just cursing, which should be a natural thing in a place like hell. And the shocking imagery is there, but the pegging demons in this episode is not one of them. That is just comedic effect. Trust me, when the edgy theme comes up, you will know it very quickly.
I understand why you think hell isn't that bad, but it's a combination of allowing you to indulge in your sins and also being horribly tortured for eternity (until you're exterminated) it's implied the hellborn, like the imp with the barbed wire, are torturing or atleast punishing the sinners somehow and in helluvaboss (this show's spinoff in the same setting) some demons go up to earth to corrupt humans to get more souls in hell, since the overlords and hellish royalty get stronger the more souls they own, also living in a lawless world full of sin might sound kinda fun, until someone else wants to rape and eat you and then you just have to regenerate slowly and panifully, only angels can permanently kill a sinner
What sins though? There is nothing wrong with indulging in hobbies or pleasures.
@@lunavioleta001there is a problem with gambling your life away or using drugs to escape your problems. There’s a problem with exploiting souls and using them in sex trafficking. There’s a problem when your hobby is killing other overlords and broadcasting their screams over the radio as you torture them and kill them. There’s a problem with creating violent contraptions to use on other souls. These aren’t simply hobbies. Like Charlie liking to sing or Angel Dust like to dance. These are indulgences that are the reason they are in hell. The things that have destroyed their lives or others lives. Have you even seen the show?
@@lunavioleta001 Tell that to the cannibals and rapists
Cannibals eating people is good for only one side of the exchange.
Valentino be like: "Ah, well, I'm sure there's a kink for that~"
So here's a wild thought: The musical numbers in a musical are IMPORTANT.
You guys should definitely also watch the pilot. It is important and literally shows Charlie and Alastors first meeting it's canon and definitely important.
Not watching the pilot first is a huge disservice. There's a reason it sold the show.
It's a musical, most episodes have 2 or 3 songs so if that's not your thing perhaps watch something else
So it hasnt been blanketly said in the show, but if you pay attention to different biuldings in the show, they have eyes all over them. those eyes belong to deceased sinners because killing someone in hell doesn't actually destroy the soul. You just become part of the environment.
Also, while you can't be permanently killed by other sinners, you can be harmed and mammed. kinda like a deadpool situation, you'll grow back body parts. It takes time and is very agonizingly painful.
as far as this being a nice place to live, while there are people who have found hell fun, the majority of people are suffering. They either suffer at the hands of demonic overlords, killed day in and day out by cannibal and murders, or taken advantage of by other means.
*edit: also as we saw in this episode husk (the cat/bat guy voiced by keith david) literally is being forced to work the bar by Alastor since he sold his soul to him.
Fair warning even to avid fans. This is... hard to watch. You guys seem so bored and irritated from the beginning. One of you can't even hide their disgust for the music. Even actually saying it could be bad from the first note of the first song. Grunting is not a reaction. Scoffing at the start of the music is disrespectful to so many people. Couldn't even make myself watch the entire video. That was uncalled for.
i mean, you want them to fake their reaction?
The funny thing is that if they didn't enjoy the video, why upload it to youtube and keep reacting to it.
They should upload stuff they enjoy, the reaction of ep 2 is the same but without Dustin and poor Morgan, she doesn't even want to talk, lol. @@carpiim
@@carpiimkinda seems they are only reacting cause literally everyone else is they wanna hop on the money train of the view spike
@@DrowsyKodi its because all the deranged fans are demanding they watch it. they think because its their favorite thing, it will be EVERYONES favorite thing.
15:20 Wondering what is so complicated about this ? The horrible part is that you're killed again and that's it, nothing, you're not there anymore. No eternal life.
Also, don't watch a musical show if you don't like musicals. That's pretty obvious.
I would say that the singing parts is not something where viv wants you to be like “ ohh wow” or “oh my god” it’s just kinda how things are in this world? I think you guys should have done helluva boss before watching this since it would have cleared some of your questions up and given you some back ground answers a filled in gapes for characters as well and references, like blitz the sins and hell borns and the freedoms they have vs the sinners
They'd hate heluva boss, it only doubles down on the meaningless cursing and sex jokes
oh my god can you guys pause the video and THEN talk instead of bulldozing the whole episode with commentary
thanks I wont waste time watching this reaction then
@@cursed_ascension was just thinking the same thing thing smh. Seems its hard to find good reactors to this show sadly
This hell, isn’t mainly a physical torture it’s the type of hell where torture is in the inside… your soul.
Exactly. In this version of Hell, the people who are the damned souls of humans are allowed to engage in all manner of vices and depravity with no limitations. Sounds nice until you realize that you're going to be surrounded by the worst examples of humanity for the rest of eternity with nothing to stop anyone from being victimized in any and every way.
Damn I've seen probably 20 different reactions and this is the first time someone didn't like the songs, even the prickliest channels were warm on that
So, the message of the show is about the morals of people and how they are judged by they mistakes, if Hell was all about suffering (and it still kinda is in the show, its just that some demons enjoy it) then wouldn't be that much to work on, if everyone is just suffering in hell so there is no story to be told, they are there and that is it, so it just more interesting to the show this version of hell
The vibe of this reaction just feels so...off to me. The whole "cool kids snickering at the theater kids" thing feels very high school in all the worst ways. I mean, dont get me wrong, not everything is for everybody and everybody can have their opinion it just feels...I dunno, extremely condescending? And I usually enjoy you guys a lot.
This show is popular for its catchy music and endearing characters (i.e. Broadway Musical 101) not anything particularly edgy. Morgan seemed way more hung up on the word 'bukkake' than the show was. Just a lot of weird assumptions being thrown around for a first episode. And it's definitely not just for younger people. I mean, I'm 34 so not exactly Gen Alpha over here.
I do agree with Sean on the world-building though. One of my bigger complaints is we dont really know what happens when characters are killed/die in hell and that question is directly tied to the stakes of Charlie's mission. There's a throwaway line in the RUclips pilot where a character wonders about it and asks if there's a "double hell" but it's definitely left intentionally unclear.
Hell in the show is probably best compared to living in Gotham City. Yes you can exist and enjoy a bohemian lifestyle there, but violent crime is wildly common and more than a handful of super-powered psycopaths will eagerly fuck you up in their endless battle for control. It's a lot more living under extreme late stage capitalism than it is burning in a pit of lava, but it still generally sucks for the majority of people.
And as for the stakes? It's that a LOT more people are ending up in hell, its horribly overpopulated and a lot of people end up there for making well-meaning mistakes....and for Charlie, who was born and grew up in hell, she sees sinners as human souls, a lot of which who just made bad choices at some point and she feels they deserve a chance to redeem themselves if they want it instead of seeing them be erased from existence for no reason. And if there is an eternal afterlife, then it's possible for a soul to continue to grow and change.
This is definitely NOT for a younger audience!!! Its rated 16+ and 18+ on a certain episode. This show isn't for everybody especially when it comes to the dialogue and the music!! But i hope you'll become obsessed with show as it goes on 😄☺️
lol 16 and 18 is the young audience that she’s talking about.
@@nubbylittlecat1753 18 year olds are adults. 16 year olds won't explode if they hear profanity. Are you daft?
@@sweatygoblin2335 Huh? All I said was that she was talking about that age range(16-early 20’s). She never said they would go crazy over hearing cuss words lol watch the video. And 16 and 18 are still teenagers which means they’re young.
@nubbylittlecat1753 my guy it's not FOR late teens and young adults, that's just the bottom line
Vivziepop sometimes does group interviews and in one she mentioned for Angeldust, he died via overdosing on drugs, he likely wasn't a pornstar while alive. I think its mentioned his family actually had some mafia connections, whether this means he murdered anyone while alive I'm not sure but suicide counts as a sin so he's likely there for that.
Alastor also died during the golden age of radio and was a both a radio host and part time serial killer while alive thus his apprehension toward technology like TVs.
Considering both his dad and brother are also in Hell while his mom and sister are in Heaven, it's safe to assume that the men were actively participating in the mafia.
Was it confirmed he killed himself on purpose from overdosing, or overdosed by accident?
Kinda funny you guys mentioned Invader Zim, because Richard Horvitz is one of the main VAs in the other show Helluva Boss
He was the voice director in hazbin as well unless I am miss remembering. Did a great job everyone sounds like they are in the same room together.
Im hell your constantly living your sin that got you sent there. It is why some people look certain ways like huskers was gambling and booze. You dont see the downsides just yet but there are some besides the extermination.
Well of course Adam says the things he says, he doesn't want her plan to work because that means less sinners to kill.
What we don't see in this show is that this version of Hell has seven layers, or "rings" to it. Each one representing a different sin, and each being ruled over by a different demon lord. You can see what the other rings are like in this show's sister series "Helluva Boss", which focuses more on the Hellborn demons, while Hazbin Hotel focuses more on the sinners. The various rings, biomes, and standards of living make Hell feel less like a pit of damnation, and more like a whole planet, albeit a vertical one, where you take huge communal elevators between layers.
To answer Dustin's early question about if people are into underground content, yes! I'm a huge animation fan so my algorithms have gotten pretty good about showing me this sort of thing--indie projects with a cool enough vision and a ton of heart. That said, I never actually looked into Hazbin Hotel till this week lol. Lookin' forward to the rest of the season!
So a bit of lore here, sinners can't be killed by other sinners. They just "respawn" so to speak. But an angelic weapon will absolutely kill them. Destroys their soul.
Don't really like musicals myself but this shit got me.
Poison is on repeat in my car lmao
okey, so, when a demon dies in hell (for any reason) they suffer the pain of death, but they just regenerate, or, if they body is complety gone, they just respawn, so they can die over and over again in hel, But, if an angel kills a demon, that's a final death, no respaw, they're souls goes to the void, nothing more
Something I've come to learn is that there's a bigger musical theatre crowd online than we would assume or think
I think Viv got about 10 million views on the Hazbin Hotel pilot when it first came out. Now however... that pilot episode is sitting at around 99 million views. The pilot for her other show Helluva Boss is currently at 64 million with the latest episode of that show having 18 million views and most of the series has like anywhere between 17-30 million.
I think most of the fans are part of the art community since the creator of the show is part of art/animation community. Viv is a big youtuber after all. I remember coming across her animations when I was a teenager
I mean its interesting to nitpick what this version of hell is like. Its the artists imagined world, hell isnt real friends! Charlie is trying to save her people from being exterminated.
Lilith comes from the older Jewish traditions. Its the revisionist christian versions of Eden that cut her out.
I highly recommend the online pilot. It’s mostly cannon to the show and expands on a lot of things and it’d be cool to see how it all began. It’s great to see you guys react to this Cinderella success story.
Sean I am 35 and I got this pilot when it came out. You just gotta be a nerd that was an emo punk who dose musical theatre. Lol
XD
Very honored my silly animatic was referenced here. Great reaction video, happy you all had a blast! 😁
Being subject to genocide once a year, is what makes it suck to be in Hell. I don't think that needs explaining.
I love that they say the cannibals are enjoying themselves and??? Ignore THE PEOPLE THEY'RE EATING???
The post show discussion was really hard to watch. Y’all are really off the mark. I hope it gets better the more you watch the show.
its only cause the show does a poor job of drawing out it's concept, atleast in this episode.
@@SeanTanktopHow?? It explains itself pretty clearly, however it seems like you guys weren’t paying much attention most of the time (especially during Hell is Forever), and speaking over parts which may have made more sense. In addition, watching the Pilot helps.
@@SeanTanktopYou guys kept talking over everything, so how are you gonna blame the show?
@@SeanTanktopHow can you complain abt the show’s premise not making sense and you being confused, meanwhile you talked over everything?
Why does Dustin hate music? 😂
But yeah, being exterminated wipes you from existence entirely -- gone forever. And hell isn't like an imposed torture, but everyone around you are the terrible people who ended up there, too, and you have to deal with them forever. So "hell is other people" basically; for instance, the cannibals enjoy eating people, but I'm sure their victims don't enjoy being eaten 😂
I like music, but not musicals
@@ddrase Musicals are just TV with music 😉
Ah yes, the initial delusion that hell is not that bad, wait until ep 4 just for surface level suffering
in case the sexual creeps, the rude assholes and the constant risk of being skinned alive werent enough
You can do pretty much anything in hell, but that's a problem in itself. It might sound great, but if you're living with the world's shittiest people, it'll still suck. They're basically each other's tormentors. And death by angelic weapons is permanent. That's why they're afraid of extermination. Hell's strength also relies on it's numbers. That's why heaven came up with extermination. Hell is becoming too powerful.
This was a disappointing reaction.
that's fair.
Dude HELL yes, this show absolutely FUCKS and I can not WAIT to watch y’all react to it. Ep 4 absolutely destroyed me
But 5 brought me back to life
I was gonna say the same but then they barely paid attention to it and whatshername just fixated on bukaki(whatever that is, sounds kinda like she was trying to say bukkake?) no kink shaming but dang, they should stay away from the show if they’re so disinterested. I’m sure they’d only watching for the views.
@@Samus7000there was a line in the first song about bukkake shows that she for some reason focused on. They don’t seem very interested in the show.
For what it’s worth, Lilith is canon even biblically, she’s just been written out of most modern versions of the Bible, to the point where only like pagans and wiccans and such still know her.
a lot of this show goes into lesser know Christian lore so i guess its not that surprising to see people think its its own thing but i would've assumed this was more common knowledge by this point in human history
@@skylofter6840same to be honest
What a wildly misleading statement. The word lilith only appears one time in anything that was ever called the Bible, and it is in a list of animals, possibly demons.
What you may be misunderstanding is that Lilith seems to have been more common in ancient Jewish and Mesopotamian folklore.
I keep seeing people saying Lilith is biblical, but she isn’t. The only time Lilith is mentioned in the Hebrew Bible is in Isaiah where the word is describing a nocturnal animal, or she-demon.
@@joshfarley5868 you know Jewish people and Catholic people believe in the same god right most of the religion is the same there are a few major differences for sure but it's all still the same foundation.
Oh, word? This is a pleasant surprise to see you doing this!
So I don’t want to tell you to much about what happens but the questions you ask gets answered in the show….. for the most part
y’all forgot the pilot that’s on youtube but that’s alr
yeah, I got the impression from someone that the first ep was just the pilot repurposed and that IS NOT the case! Me and Morgan went back and recacted to it and liked it! Its a Patreon exclusive!
AH! I love this show and your channel will BODY this reaction! Maybe watch the pilot at some point to see how it's grown!!
Honestly, not a very good reaction. It was pretty insufferable with their extremely nonsensical complaints and the one guy barely talking and making ridiculous faces like a child.
I'm not sure. I don't think the show fits their overall vibe, and this reaction proved that for me. I don't think they'll have much fun with Hazbin Hotel.
Yeah if you're not even going to pay attention to what they're saying in the songs on top of just looking disgusted by it, this will be last video I watch of you guys for this series. Total and utter disappointment is what this video was tbh.
This is gonna be mean, But I really hate to watch people who don't like musicals WATCH MUSICALS, bc If you're going to be making faces and acting bored, please don't watch it, bc I love musicals, If you don't like the show, It's fine, It's okay, but I can't stand people who act like they are above musicals, musicals are great, okay?, more respect for musicals, thank you.
you could just not watch the reactions lol
So true, it's such an insufferable thing to do. These are grown adults that are literally starting to gray acting like children, it's unbelievable.
Only one of them didn’t like musicals tho?
@@nubbylittlecat1753 Literally all 3 of them complained about the musical element in the show.
@@msbkaioken136 complain doesn’t mean they dislike musicals in general. One of them doesn’t like them at all. They are allowed to have their opinions about it, it’s only the first episode and they can grow to like it. If you don’t like their reaction leave and stop leaving 27 comments on this video lol 💀
Christ, these are the most shallow takes I've seen on youtube yet. Yall are so hung up on the bukkake joke you missed the entire point of Hazbin's hell; It's the worst version of our reality, where selfishness and vices go unpunished and all its inhabitants torment each other just by existing. It seems all fun and raunchy on the surface, but as you indulge in your sins you feel worse and worse, and so does everyone else. And there's no escape except for an exorcist blade. People are literally getting eaten alive on the street!
It's a capitalistic hellscape where you still have to pay rent and go to work, putting up with all of the worst people who have ever lived and haven't died a second death yet who can and WILL try to exploit you. Forever. Drugs and sex offers a moment of euphoria only to bring you crashing down. Hell fuckin sucks and that's by design!
Maybe if you actually listened to the songs a bit instead of blathering over them you'd catch any of it.
I mean, y'all gotta remember you're viewing hell through Charlie and the Hazbin Hotel (prob the only "good" place there). Hell is full of murderers, SA/R*pists, cannibals, robbers/thieves, traitors, cultish peeps, etc. They're all harming each other while being harmed themselves by hell's environment, and on top of that, the extermination by the angels. Yes the angel exterminators suck, but heaven offers far more than what hell can (but who knows the direction of this will be lol)
we gotta get dustin bitten by that musical theater bug. make him watch camp, theater camp, book of mormon, and grease 2
Morgan is a secret theatre kid, the only one I liked was Hedwig.
I don’t think their criticism is wrong. The rules are a little wonky and the show never really explains most of them. The show does want them to accept the premise so that it can tell its story. I think that’s mostly heavily lifted from the pilot and this is mostly a refocusing of the pilot to this seasons antagonists.
If they want to reject the premise it’s gonna not be their cup of tea and that’s okay. If they do accept the premise it’s a pretty good watch. They probably wouldn’t get interested until episode 4, and that’s an hour before they might decide it has some topics they might enjoy.
Media literacy is at an all time low
Keith David said in an interview he signed on because the project reminded him of Fritz the Cat,
Hell is still an eternal Damnation Sinners can't die and they get hungry every time they get "killed" they just respawn and more importantly they feel everything unless they killed by angelic weapons which is permanent.
Rarely comment...this may be my first ever. But I think y'all are really over-analyzing the show based on the first episode. Hope y'all don't drop it, it gets very good!
Don’t overthink this show, let the answers come to you
Lilith is from Jewish mythology, and she was actually in the very early versions of the bible, but she was cut out over the centuries. They weren't too fond of anything close to a strong woman 2000 years ago.
This is NOT an alternative story. The Story of Adam and Lilith is much older than the "Bible-Version". The original story of Adam and Lilith is from the hebraic religion.
YESSS You guys are awesome, I watched your arcane reactions back in the day and I literally a few minutes ago I finished your reactions to the blue eye samurai, I'm so glad you're doing this show, it goes to funny demon show to emotional damage real fast lol
Ok so sinner kill themselves all the time in hell, but they are kinda immortal there , so if ur killed u can just manifest again. But when an exorcist angel kills you, is final death. You are exterminated .