I just bought a new ms180 yesterday. It’s running bar oil out the bottom, pretty good bit is this normal ? First saw . Salesman said keep it on its side when not using after I asked him about it . Kinda makes me feel regret . Thanks
The Ms180 is a tough little saw. Dad has around 60 acres in west central indiana and he has mine which I modified for him with an 18" bar. This saw doesn't come factory with 18" x .050 bar but it handles it just fine. It has the quick saw adjust and easy start which I hoped would help him out. Between this saw and the Ms170 my sister got him, he does very well.... He used to have a Stihl 041 but these are much more user friendly for him... Good little review of a good saw
Loved the review! As a home owner living in the woods, I needed a small chain saw to cut small wood for my outdoor fire pit... about one or two days work once a year. This being my first brand new chainsaw (yeah, I made the mistake of buying used chainsaws and had nothing but trouble), your review confirmed what I thought after watching many other brands on youtube. I appreciate your honest opinion on this model. Thank you for taking the time to do this!
I own an MS 170 and its a great saw, no issues. Keep it sharp and it will cut 90 % of the wood any homeowner will need. I have cut down 20" spruce and pine and birch with no issues. I cut all my firewood with it. And its lightweight and its inexpensive
I have an ms170, I've been cutting at least 8 ton of eucalyptus a year for last 7 years, a lot of dirty wood and charcoal wood from back burning and I cant kill it, only had one new bar in that time. I have a ms251 as well I barely use it as the 170 gets most of the work done first.
Nice common sense review. This is a great little saw. I have had mine for nearly 9 years. Perfect for my suburban yard with a lot of trees (not a forest here). But always something to clean up after wind storms or sometimes trees just die. Personally the largest thing I had to cut was about 8-9 inches at its base. The thing has been flawless. More my light duty. I have an MS 180 C is very easy to start and I like the simple "tool less" chain adjuster that mine has. Get the Stihl sharpener. Makes sharpening almost foolproof. As far a 60 or 80 footers of which I have several, I call someone.
I'm in my late 70's and my Farm Boss 290 is getting to be a bit too much. I saw your video on the MS 180, and since I am now cutting logs between 8" and 14", about 3 or 4 cord. So, you gave a great "how and why".
Although I use my MS261 for firewood most of the time, I keep the little 180 on my tractor. It may have less actual running time on it, but it gets used much more often. It’s light, handy, and easy to keep around. I injured my back a few years ago, and for a while it was the only saw I could run.
Agree bloody great saw for limbing/ small logs have an ms 461 for the big trees but it’s heavy and you feel it after 1/2 a day but with a full chisel skip chain it’s a beast
I just bought a MS180. I originally wanted the MS250 or MS251 Wood Boss. But I decided with the MS180 because I only have 1 dead tree on my 1 acre to cut down (tree is just about the same size base as the 16 inch bar) and one live tree to do trimming.
I am considering this MS180 (now $240) to the MS250 (on sale for $349). I also have a MS261 with 20". Thought about getting a 16" bar setup which would cost almost as much as the MS180.
Out of those possibilities, I’d put a 18” bar and chain on that MS261. (I’m experimenting with the new Lite bars that run a .325 chain with 1.3mm drivers. So keep your eyes open for that) I’d say the MS250 is a big step up in quality and performance from the 180. The weak spot in the 180 is that little tiny chain. It cuts ok, but I have a hard time filling it, because it’s so small, my old eyes don’t like it. 😊
Nice review, Scott. The MS180 looks similar to my Husqvarna 455, except mine has the bucking spikes. I don't do much tree work, mostly clearing small, new growth and bucking an occasional downed tree. But, I do have a large maple tree to cut up. I will have to do something about that!
Great information. A co- worker of mine has one, and she used it once and asked if i wanted to buy it. Took it home to check it out. Dont quit know what to offer for it though?
Well, a new one will cost around $230. I’d say if the bar, and chain are good, and it runs good, probably $150-$175. If it’s really only been used once, and is still close to new, I might give a little more.
hi , i have a 50 cc and a 70 cc saws for falling trees but i need i light and cheap saw like this one for my wood for the woodstove , is it worth the 60 more euros for ms 180 vs the ''smaller '' ms 170 ?
There’s really not much difference between the 170, and 180. Power to weight ratio is about the same. The MS180 does have a little more fuel, and oil capacity. I plan on upgrading mine to a heavier chain eventually. Great little saw if you’re not subjecting it to rough use.
170 has a front chain tensioner, 180 has a side chain tensioner. Both accept 1130 series felling spikes. I own an MS 170, upgraded it with a 180c muffler plate, side tensioner and felling spikes. Since Stihl refuses to sell .43 gauge ⅜lp chain without anti-kickback, I bought better chains on Amazon for practically dirt cheap compared to what Stihl dealers want for the .43 gauge chains.
Well, that depends on several factors. Being a small chain, it will dull fairly fast anyway. So you’ll want to take care to stay away from dirt and rocks. In general, I sharpen my chain every time I re fuel my saw, even if it’s still cutting good. The reason, because it takes less filing to sharpen a chain that’s still good. So you’re constantly “touching it up” as far as being sharp. Believe it, or not, it also makes your chains last much longer if you sharpen before they get really dull.
I bought mine from an authorized dealer. They completed their inspection and I took it home. Months later when I needed it, it wouldn't start. Do I need it tuned up by the dealer if it sits for a month or two? Funny enough, the Husqvarna sat for the same amount of time and started right up? I guess that's what I get for having trust in a brand name reputation. MS180, ran once, never used to cut anything. I'll sell it if anyone is interested. Enjoy your day, Friends. Wealth and Happiness.
That’s not a common thing at all. I’d take it back to the dealer. I definitely understand your frustration. For what it’s worth, I had the same thing happen with a Jonsered (same as Husqvarna). The saw was at the shop, more than it was home. A certain amount of that was a dealer problem, but that’s when I stopped buying Husqvarna, and Jonsered. Yours could have a bad ignition, or something, and is probably covered under warranty. My 180 doesn’t like being left on the tractor during snowy weather. I found that out fairly fast. My other saws don’t seem bothered by it, but they are more expensive, professional saws.
@@scottfromwhiskeynsunshine305 I appreciate the info and reply, friend! I've actually said, "Hell with it" and now just hire people to do the cutting for me. Enjoy your day. Wealth and Happiness.
@@AverageBeausOutdoor you didn't put stabilizer in the gas when you stored it and it gummed the carb up, u need to clean the carb or buy a new one. and don't store it with gas unless you're adding stabilizer. i leave gas in it for like 2 years and it fires right up 2 pulls
Try a new plug , mine did the same thing when I got it. Replaced the plug had no issues since then. Have a Husky 351 for over 25 years , never had any issues with that starting right up. ( except when a mouse chewed the wire off the coil)
@@cocoalarsen I appreciate the suggestion and time you took from your day. I recently got it running but thank you anyway. Wealth and Happiness, Friend.
No, it’s not a size thing. You have to understand, I’ve been around saws my whole life, and I’ve never had much use for the type of saws marketed to homeowners. The little MS180 is the first “homeowners saw” that I’ve ever owned. It’s a good little saw. Would I buy it expecting to cut enough wood to heat my home? No, I wouldn’t. For something like that I’d go with something bigger.
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I just bought a new ms180 yesterday. It’s running bar oil out the bottom, pretty good bit is this normal ? First saw . Salesman said keep it on its side when not using after I asked him about it . Kinda makes me feel regret . Thanks
I keep a ms170 in my truck box. Had it for 8 years or so. Still going strong.
Nice! Very handy to keep for when you need it. Thanks for watching.
The Ms180 is a tough little saw. Dad has around 60 acres in west central indiana and he has mine which I modified for him with an 18" bar. This saw doesn't come factory with 18" x .050 bar but it handles it just fine. It has the quick saw adjust and easy start which I hoped would help him out. Between this saw and the Ms170 my sister got him, he does very well.... He used to have a Stihl 041 but these are much more user friendly for him... Good little review of a good saw
Loved the review! As a home owner living in the woods, I needed a small chain saw to cut small wood for my outdoor fire pit... about one or two days work once a year. This being my first brand new chainsaw (yeah, I made the mistake of buying used chainsaws and had nothing but trouble), your review confirmed what I thought after watching many other brands on youtube. I appreciate your honest opinion on this model. Thank you for taking the time to do this!
So glad it was helpful.
I own an MS 170 and its a great saw, no issues. Keep it sharp and it will cut 90 % of the wood any homeowner will need. I have cut down 20" spruce and pine and birch with no issues. I cut all my firewood with it. And its lightweight and its inexpensive
They’re a great homeowners saw.
I have an ms170, I've been cutting at least 8 ton of eucalyptus a year for last 7 years, a lot of dirty wood and charcoal wood from back burning and I cant kill it, only had one new bar in that time. I have a ms251 as well I barely use it as the 170 gets most of the work done first.
Wow! That's a lot of eucalyptus! Sounds like the 170 is doing the trick.
Nice common sense review. This is a great little saw. I have had mine for nearly 9 years. Perfect for my suburban yard with a lot of trees (not a forest here). But always something to clean up after wind storms or sometimes trees just die. Personally the largest thing I had to cut was about 8-9 inches at its base. The thing has been flawless. More my light duty. I have an MS 180 C is very easy to start and I like the simple "tool less" chain adjuster that mine has. Get the Stihl sharpener. Makes sharpening almost foolproof. As far a 60 or 80 footers of which I have several, I call someone.
I got one of these today, I keep it in my 4x4 cos if I go bush I can cut a small tree that might not be safe to drive over and damage my tyres.
just bought a 180 for putting on the front of my motorcycle for clearing trails. Starts great.
Nice!! Great idea!
The 170s and 180s aren’t as strong as the others but they usually last longer
I'm in my late 70's and my Farm Boss 290 is getting to be a bit too much. I saw your video on the MS 180, and since I am now cutting logs between 8" and 14", about 3 or 4 cord. So, you gave a great "how and why".
Although I use my MS261 for firewood most of the time, I keep the little 180 on my tractor. It may have less actual running time on it, but it gets used much more often. It’s light, handy, and easy to keep around.
I injured my back a few years ago, and for a while it was the only saw I could run.
@@scottfromwhiskeynsunshine305 I find your videos very well composed, and entertaining at the same time. You're very good at this.
Sir Price MS 180 ?
PLZ
Agree bloody great saw for limbing/ small logs have an ms 461 for the big trees but it’s heavy and you feel it after 1/2 a day but with a full chisel skip chain it’s a beast
I just bought a MS180. I originally wanted the MS250 or MS251 Wood Boss. But I decided with the MS180 because I only have 1 dead tree on my 1 acre to cut down (tree is just about the same size base as the 16 inch bar) and one live tree to do trimming.
It works great for that kind of stuff.
I am considering this MS180 (now $240) to the MS250 (on sale for $349). I also have a MS261 with 20". Thought about getting a 16" bar setup which would cost almost as much as the MS180.
Out of those possibilities, I’d put a 18” bar and chain on that MS261. (I’m experimenting with the new Lite bars that run a .325 chain with 1.3mm drivers. So keep your eyes open for that)
I’d say the MS250 is a big step up in quality and performance from the 180.
The weak spot in the 180 is that little tiny chain. It cuts ok, but I have a hard time filling it, because it’s so small, my old eyes don’t like it. 😊
Nice review, Scott. The MS180 looks similar to my Husqvarna 455, except mine has the bucking spikes. I don't do much tree work, mostly clearing small, new growth and bucking an occasional downed tree. But, I do have a large maple tree to cut up. I will have to do something about that!
Hey thanks Rick! You got a good saw there. That maple will be some good firewood. Thank you for watching!
Great information. A co- worker of mine has one, and she used it once and asked if i wanted to buy it. Took it home to check it out. Dont quit know what to offer for it though?
Well, a new one will cost around $230. I’d say if the bar, and chain are good, and it runs good, probably $150-$175. If it’s really only been used once, and is still close to new, I might give a little more.
@WhiskeynSunshineOffGrid Thank you. I appreciate your response and input.
what should I buy between MS 170 and MS 180 ? thanks
My opinion, the ms 180. If they are close to the same price definitely the 180.
hi , i have a 50 cc and a 70 cc saws for falling trees but i need i light and cheap saw like this one for my wood for the woodstove , is it worth the 60 more euros for ms 180 vs the ''smaller '' ms 170 ?
There’s really not much difference between the 170, and 180.
Power to weight ratio is about the same. The MS180 does have a little more fuel, and oil capacity. I plan on upgrading mine to a heavier chain eventually.
Great little saw if you’re not subjecting it to rough use.
170 has a front chain tensioner, 180 has a side chain tensioner. Both accept 1130 series felling spikes. I own an MS 170, upgraded it with a 180c muffler plate, side tensioner and felling spikes. Since Stihl refuses to sell .43 gauge ⅜lp chain without anti-kickback, I bought better chains on Amazon for practically dirt cheap compared to what Stihl dealers want for the .43 gauge chains.
Good informative review. Thanks!
Thanks for the advice!
No problem!
How many cuts before the 3/8 chain goes dull?
Well, that depends on several factors.
Being a small chain, it will dull fairly fast anyway. So you’ll want to take care to stay away from dirt and rocks.
In general, I sharpen my chain every time I re fuel my saw, even if it’s still cutting good. The reason, because it takes less filing to sharpen a chain that’s still good. So you’re constantly “touching it up” as far as being sharp. Believe it, or not, it also makes your chains last much longer if you sharpen before they get really dull.
Should i buy this now for $260 where im at now or wait till black friday and hope it goes on sale?
Well you have to do what you think is best, but I am a sucker for a good sale and saving money.
They make a stihl ms181 should i buy that or the ms180 that u got? I want to buy one!!
I’d stay with the MS180.
Still work good after a few more years?
Yes, but it doesn’t get used that often. Given the choice between that and my MS261, the 261 usually wins out. Really depends on the task at hand.
I bought mine from an authorized dealer. They completed their inspection and I took it home. Months later when I needed it, it wouldn't start.
Do I need it tuned up by the dealer if it sits for a month or two?
Funny enough, the Husqvarna sat for the same amount of time and started right up? I guess that's what I get for having trust in a brand name reputation.
MS180, ran once, never used to cut anything. I'll sell it if anyone is interested.
Enjoy your day, Friends.
Wealth and Happiness.
That’s not a common thing at all. I’d take it back to the dealer. I definitely understand your frustration. For what it’s worth, I had the same thing happen with a Jonsered (same as Husqvarna).
The saw was at the shop, more than it was home. A certain amount of that was a dealer problem, but that’s when I stopped buying Husqvarna, and Jonsered. Yours could have a bad ignition, or something, and is probably covered under warranty.
My 180 doesn’t like being left on the tractor during snowy weather. I found that out fairly fast. My other saws don’t seem bothered by it, but they are more expensive, professional saws.
@@scottfromwhiskeynsunshine305 I appreciate the info and reply, friend! I've actually said, "Hell with it" and now just hire people to do the cutting for me.
Enjoy your day. Wealth and Happiness.
@@AverageBeausOutdoor you didn't put stabilizer in the gas when you stored it and it gummed the carb up, u need to clean the carb or buy a new one. and don't store it with gas unless you're adding stabilizer. i leave gas in it for like 2 years and it fires right up 2 pulls
Try a new plug , mine did the same thing when I got it. Replaced the plug had no issues since then. Have a Husky 351 for over 25 years , never had any issues with that starting right up. ( except when a mouse chewed the wire off the coil)
@@cocoalarsen I appreciate the suggestion and time you took from your day. I recently got it running but thank you anyway.
Wealth and Happiness, Friend.
Super review - convinced me to buy one and I was delighted - a great saw, especially for the price......
Great to hear! Glad to hear it was helpful.
Absolutely! It’s a great little homeowners saw!
Thanks big fella!!
Thank you for this review. Really helpful!!!
You’re welcome!
Great review that was certainly comprehensive. Thanks Scott!
Thanks for watching!
Lots of helpful advice.
Hi Scott great review as always 👍
Thanks 👍
Good review,thanks.
Thanks for watching John!
Oleo-Mac GS 411 better?
Not familiar with that one.
Thank you there man
No problem.
Good info sir😊
Less than 32cc IntelliCarb™...not M-tronic and 2.0HP not 3.0
Heh man how many ppl run their saws over. You're not the first person I've heard bring this up if you wreck the saw.
Why would it be a cheap piece of junk? Bc it’s smaller?
No, it’s not a size thing. You have to understand, I’ve been around saws my whole life, and I’ve never had much use for the type of saws marketed to homeowners.
The little MS180 is the first “homeowners saw” that I’ve ever owned. It’s a good little saw. Would I buy it expecting to cut enough wood to heat my home? No, I wouldn’t. For something like that I’d go with something bigger.
Its the stihhl easy start
They are available with either a regular starter, or the “easy start” that winds up.
@@WhiskeynSunshineOffGrid yes sir
Too much yakky yak
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