Listening to the album for the first time right now and I can't understand why it is said to be their worst album or why it gets only 2 stars on allmusic....?? This album is awesome
I think this was a perfect example of an album that was straight up not only underrated but didn't get the appreciation or attention it should've until way after the fact. I'm a huge SP fan and I can even remember when this album came out that I didn't think nearly as fond of it as I do now. Clearly up there with the earlier albums.
I remember being so excited when it was announced. The first SP album in seven years or something like that. I rushed out and bought it the day of release and it's so much heavier than I'd expected, I love it!
Well, they can really shred when they want to. That’s the thing about the Pumpkins. They seem to dangle that carrot in front of us while getting in touch with their ballads.
This song is the best live song that the Smashing Pumpkins perform. When they played a 13 night residency show at the Fillmore in SF they performed it every night. I wuz there to see it every night. 🤘🤘💀🍻🔥
Jimmy for the win man. Too bad production was the issue for the hate. Its a loud and unrelenting album....that didnt sit well with people. For me, it was perfect.
Tired eyes Closed for days There's no regret 'Cause there's no place I don't know What I believe But if I feel safe What do I need A home A home A home Revolution Revolution Revolution blues What will they do Revolution Revolution Revolution blues What will they do to me What will they do to me What will they do to me What will they do to me Dulcet tongues Whisper fast The future yearns Right now's the past Rouse me soon The end draws nigh Who's side are you on Your blood you cannot buy Revolution Revolution Revolution blues What will they do Revolution Revolution Revolution blues What will they do to you Well I I feel alright So tonight I got to ask you why Why deny it It's no surprise I've got to survive Freedom shines the light ahead I'll lead the last charge to bed I said my last rights I don?t have to run scared no more Fight I wanna fight I wanna fight a revolution Tonight I wanna fight I wanna fight a revolution Tonight At the light At the light Do you wanna watch me die Let me be something good Let me prove something real like I should Let me embrace every single living thing Let me be every single moment I ever misunderstood
After listening to this for over ten years, I finally hear some Jimi Hendrix-inspired licks through the guitar solos. William Corgan was too young to have heard Jimi Hendrix's national anthem live, but it definitely sounds like he heard it as a kid and got inspired.
"Right now's the past". I vividly remember listening to this on the bus to school in 2007 and thinking "Yeah, this is the present, but one day I'll remember this moment as the past", and here I am 17 years later remembering that seemingly inconsequential moment that was once the present as the past.
I saw this live in 2007, and he made it about 15 minutes long with the American national anthem on the end of the solo… it was the pinnacle of the alt-rock scene I’d grown up with. From Chronic Town to this.
This album is fantastic. It’s Classic Pumpkins up their with their greatest nineties work. Such a shame it’s not on streaming for new fans to discover.
I think corgan is afraid to glorify this era in the SP chapter cause of the current age we’re living in. Did he predict the future? Perhaps? Will it get worse? Most definitely.
@@all2blame163 the country was already ruined. It takes more than one bumbling old man to destroy an empire, it takes years of aggressive foreign policy and internal dissatisfaction, enjoy the ride.
History repeats itself. Our grandparents/great grandparents went through some very similar stuff. I'll bet theirs did as well. Different fashion, different methods of information delivery, but it's the same old story.
One single was released in the UK off Adore the very day SP played Shephards Bush. When asked why Corgan said his fans would buy his stuff by the single anyway.... AYUHHHH FAWK YESSS😁⚡️🙌🏻😍♾
I honestly reckon he reads the BS on netphoria. It’s literally a Billy bashing forum. And he takes it seriously. That must be bad for his mental health. A forum dedicated to slamming him. Majority of normal fans loved this album.
@@jakehixon4073I don’t think this is the case. The album seems to be more appreciated over the years compared to when it first came out. Critics hated it and people seemed to bash it based on the fact it wasn’t the original line up and he still used the band name. While I think the majority of fans didn’t hate it as much as critics, the sentiment was that it was just decent. The story about taking it off streaming because people hated it might just be the story he tells to annoy people lol. There’s also the fact he apparently wasn’t happy with the production on the album or there may be stupid legal issues with having it on streaming.
SLAMMING IT DOWN!! This album was trashed by critics, but why did the fans follow suit? I'm embarrassed for all the Pumpkins fans that FAILED the band on this one.
Listening since ‘91 and the best thing about Corgan is that he matures with you. Some people don’t get that. He pulled two albums because people criticized without understanding.
If not for the weird, off-time, oddly pitched, "OW!"... this would be an absolutely perfect song. Wonder who decided they should echo it so we'd have to hear it another 2 or 3 times, rather than cutting it.
For real it’s impossible to find this online it seems and not on Spotify. Billy hates rock music so much now it’s sad. I think this album is killer. A 10 minute epic with cascading buildups and gut busting breakdowns? It’s a compositional masterpiece that doesn’t even compare to his shit new age synth pop he’s making now.
@@andrewtresler6765 The stuff Billy has been posting in the last 3 albums is so synth oriented that you can almost forget the group used to be a huge rock band back in the glorious 90's
@@andrewtresler6765 I also made a playlist with all Zeitgeist b sides incorporated in a 25 track album with gosssamer as the central piece in my playlist in the Channel if you are interested.
wow!, really? nobody hears the peter cris/kiss homage? , drums , drum fills , from kiss alive II drum solo kiss army here but this smashing song still rocks ...
I wished they would have opened the record with this song… would have been EPIC. With better mixing and a shorter a run time, a It could have been one of their best. Still is an amazing album
This album is fantastic. It’s Classic Pumpkins up their with their greatest nineties work. Such a shame it’s not on streaming for new fans to discover.
A drumming masterclass from Mr Chamberlin.
Listening to the album for the first time right now and I can't understand why it is said to be their worst album or why it gets only 2 stars on allmusic....?? This album is awesome
I think this was a perfect example of an album that was straight up not only underrated but didn't get the appreciation or attention it should've until way after the fact. I'm a huge SP fan and I can even remember when this album came out that I didn't think nearly as fond of it as I do now. Clearly up there with the earlier albums.
I know right. This is by far my fav s.p. album
I remember being so excited when it was announced. The first SP album in seven years or something like that. I rushed out and bought it the day of release and it's so much heavier than I'd expected, I love it!
“iTs NoT tHe OrIgInAL liNeUp”. 😂. Love this record 🤘
Well, they can really shred when they want to. That’s the thing about the Pumpkins. They seem to dangle that carrot in front of us while getting in touch with their ballads.
This song just fucking rocks.
Quantity does not equal quality
That slow ending is probably the most killer ending of any pumpkins song.
@8:40🤘🏽
This song is the best live song that the Smashing Pumpkins perform. When they played a 13 night residency show at the Fillmore in SF they performed it every night. I wuz there to see it every night. 🤘🤘💀🍻🔥
Definitely 👍🏻
I heard it live in Christchurch in 2008 on my trip around New Zealand. 'United States' is a must-see
The last true pumpkins album.
Yeah I don't know what the hell some of those recent albums were, hopefully the next one is good.
Oceania is really really good but yeah I agree this is the last album of ‘Classic Pumpkins’.
Yes sir your exactly right hard pumpkin riffs. This jam slams.
Top album. Not even on Spotify. Shame to the pop critics.
Yeah f*ck em, those pop critics at the time didn’t and still don’t know good music as good as this one.
Best drums EVER! Insanely underrated album and song
Already know😅
One take
I agree , the drumming is unreal, should be on Spotify
Oh yeah the drumming 🔥🥁🥁🥁🔥
Jimmy for the win man. Too bad production was the issue for the hate. Its a loud and unrelenting album....that didnt sit well with people. For me, it was perfect.
This album is in their top three IMO
Tired eyes
Closed for days
There's no regret
'Cause there's no place
I don't know
What I believe
But if I feel safe
What do I need
A home
A home
A home
Revolution
Revolution
Revolution blues
What will they do
Revolution
Revolution
Revolution blues
What will they do to me
What will they do to me
What will they do to me
What will they do to me
Dulcet tongues
Whisper fast
The future yearns
Right now's the past
Rouse me soon
The end draws nigh
Who's side are you on
Your blood you cannot buy
Revolution
Revolution
Revolution blues
What will they do
Revolution
Revolution
Revolution blues
What will they do to you
Well I
I feel alright
So tonight
I got to ask you why
Why deny it
It's no surprise
I've got to survive
Freedom shines the light ahead
I'll lead the last charge to bed
I said my last rights
I don?t have to run scared no more
Fight
I wanna fight
I wanna fight a revolution
Tonight
I wanna fight
I wanna fight a revolution
Tonight
At the light
At the light
Do you wanna watch me die
Let me be something good
Let me prove something real like I should
Let me embrace every single living thing
Let me be every single moment I ever misunderstood
Acolyte
After listening to this for over ten years, I finally hear some Jimi Hendrix-inspired licks through the guitar solos. William Corgan was too young to have heard Jimi Hendrix's national anthem live, but it definitely sounds like he heard it as a kid and got inspired.
"Right now's the past". I vividly remember listening to this on the bus to school in 2007 and thinking "Yeah, this is the present, but one day I'll remember this moment as the past", and here I am 17 years later remembering that seemingly inconsequential moment that was once the present as the past.
I saw this live in 2007, and he made it about 15 minutes long with the American national anthem on the end of the solo… it was the pinnacle of the alt-rock scene I’d grown up with. From Chronic Town to this.
Did the 15 minute version in Australia as well, mind blowing
This album kicks ass !!!! Period.
This album is fantastic. It’s Classic Pumpkins up their with their greatest nineties work. Such a shame it’s not on streaming for new fans to discover.
A diamond in a rough album
this is one of those songs you come back to years later
Such an amazing tune. A headbanging anthem.
Jimmy Chamberlin on drums!!!
I think corgan is afraid to glorify this era in the SP chapter cause of the current age we’re living in. Did he predict the future? Perhaps? Will it get worse? Most definitely.
The worst administration in the W.H. now ruining the country !!!!
@@all2blame163 the country was already ruined. It takes more than one bumbling old man to destroy an empire, it takes years of aggressive foreign policy and internal dissatisfaction, enjoy the ride.
History repeats itself. Our grandparents/great grandparents went through some very similar stuff. I'll bet theirs did as well. Different fashion, different methods of information delivery, but it's the same old story.
Best way to revive a supposed retired band. Yet I saw their second to last show before so I can say things like this. Pumpkins forever!!!!!!🫀
I read once that Billy pulled this because fans were shitting on it so he said fuck it you can’t listen to it anymore. Baller move.
One single was released in the UK off Adore the very day SP played Shephards Bush. When asked why Corgan said his fans would buy his stuff by the single anyway.... AYUHHHH FAWK YESSS😁⚡️🙌🏻😍♾
Well I own the album so jokes on him
Those fans were expecting hipster friendly Pitchfork shit. They got butthurt that he went back to his Sabbath roots.
I honestly reckon he reads the BS on netphoria. It’s literally a Billy bashing forum. And he takes it seriously. That must be bad for his mental health. A forum dedicated to slamming him.
Majority of normal fans loved this album.
@@jakehixon4073I don’t think this is the case. The album seems to be more appreciated over the years compared to when it first came out. Critics hated it and people seemed to bash it based on the fact it wasn’t the original line up and he still used the band name. While I think the majority of fans didn’t hate it as much as critics, the sentiment was that it was just decent.
The story about taking it off streaming because people hated it might just be the story he tells to annoy people lol. There’s also the fact he apparently wasn’t happy with the production on the album or there may be stupid legal issues with having it on streaming.
Massive band bigger than we realise 🎸
Absolutely mind blowing live & went longer than the 10 minute version above
My fav s.p. song ever
This album has the perfect Pumpkins and alternative rock sound. I think this is Billy's peak which is really saying something.
This track would be a good theme to a hurricane coming in.
better than any of the 50 crap songs on their latest double album
I awesomely found the double disc edition of this CD in a dollar tree !!!!!
Agreed 👍
I like guitar over synths (nothing wrong with them, DEAD WEATHER use it the way i like it, especially live)
That latest one they did was the worst trash I ever heard
Yep, Cyr is what Adore would have sounded like...if it sucked.
SLAMMING IT DOWN!! This album was trashed by critics, but why did the fans follow suit? I'm embarrassed for all the Pumpkins fans that FAILED the band on this one.
Totally underrated album.
BC / JC forever
Very Sabbath sounding, think children of the grave.
Tool as well. Drumming style if very Danny Carey.
It does actually. Solid observation
Great druuuuummmmm🥁👍🎧👍
Almost like a sibling to Superchrist👀
This absolutely destroys any of the utter garage on their latest double album. Not one song on that comes close to any on Zeitgeist.
“Bite my lip and close my eyes”
wow thanks lmao
@@ghoulrush drum intro reminds me of longview by greenday
Jimmy is just showing off on this.
Why is this album not published on any streaming service wtf??? Someone explain pls.
Corgan had it pulled. People kept saying it sucked he takes criticism seriously. So he pulled it. As well as Adore
Some people don't understand great music.
@@kevinvigil5867 People don't like Adore? I love it.
I rate it as one of their top albums
Listening since ‘91 and the best thing about Corgan is that he matures with you. Some people don’t get that. He pulled two albums because people criticized without understanding.
If not for the weird, off-time, oddly pitched, "OW!"... this would be an absolutely perfect song. Wonder who decided they should echo it so we'd have to hear it another 2 or 3 times, rather than cutting it.
Excellent part of the song.
Yeah I think it was an excellent creative decision
Thank you for uploading this. I dunno why but RUclips or Billy Corgan or somebody seems to hate this song lol
Thanks ! For me the best song on Zeitgeist by far.
@@sandbat7145 couldn't agree more 👍
For real it’s impossible to find this online it seems and not on Spotify. Billy hates rock music so much now it’s sad. I think this album is killer. A 10 minute epic with cascading buildups and gut busting breakdowns? It’s a compositional masterpiece that doesn’t even compare to his shit new age synth pop he’s making now.
@@andrewtresler6765 The stuff Billy has been posting in the last 3 albums is so synth oriented that you can almost forget the group used to be a huge rock band back in the glorious 90's
@@andrewtresler6765 I also made a playlist with all Zeitgeist b sides incorporated in a 25 track album with gosssamer as the central piece in my playlist in the Channel if you are interested.
wow!, really? nobody hears the
peter cris/kiss homage? , drums , drum fills , from kiss alive II drum solo kiss army here but this smashing song still rocks ...
Awesome
😑 imagine a bunch of hacks spitting on your opus.
Fun fact: The drums for this song were recorded in one live take.
I wished they would have opened the record with this song… would have been EPIC. With better mixing and a shorter a run time, a It could have been one of their best. Still is an amazing album
Crazy tom fills
8:13
8:30 gives tingles every time
Agreed.
tarantula my song of album ;-) zeitgeist 2007
This is a nasty song.
the breakdown at the end is so epic... this song is one that really sticks with ya
This was posted on my bday lmao
its my Bday tomorrow but live in Canada
still love the track i been many times
kinda somes up you country
b4 the biden admin
OWW (OW) (OW) (OWW)
los te teqm mucho
wowowwowowowowoww wow
Sabbath influence
Why can’t I buy this on my iTunes ?
👀
This almost sounds like a tool song
What Tool are you listening to?
This song has more groove than all tool songs combined
Jimmy is obviously influenced by Tool. Sounds Carey esque with the tribal drumming.
Lol Chamberlain is older than Carey
Sounds like an oasis song
This song is not a good song. You can write and record this in a day. Billy is creatively bankrupt. To put his name on this is sad.
This album is fantastic. It’s Classic Pumpkins up their with their greatest nineties work. Such a shame it’s not on streaming for new fans to discover.