Puffy ultimately won. He's an old man with more money than he needs. Puffy has been getting away with manipulating the guys he sign into sexual favors. Guys have came out and said what Puff did to them but it just gets forgot. Puff is a sick evil SOB.
@@mrsmukk I dunno, just a feeling. Liars are good at keeping consistent stories too. But as we are on the outside there’s no way we can know for sure if someone’s lying or not
@@GoGetYourShinebox to be a good liar you need to have a good memory. Every time gene tells a story the details remain the same. You dont need a good memory if ur telling the truth. Nothing changes no matter how many times you tell it. That’s how you catch liars. Gene’s details never change no matter who he’s talking to.
If we had these phones back then.....most of these cats would have been locked up, flashing them guns, hip hop police woulda had a field day, all them Death Row bloods with records woulda been locked up. ...and be alive in prison
That is a fact... Pac went on stage and BIG performed... I was there personally in the building. I almost got into beef at Venice Beach all because of my Yankee fitted cap and Tims...smh. We were so young and stupid.
@@ChamP10nk1ng nah...I forgot to mention that I am from Brooklyn, NY. I wont lie. I started to reminisce on that day and didn't realize i wasn't painting a clear picture. I remember the energy in the room was 100 and I was far from home.
@@Saluteme10288 I am not sure what you are saying...i was in the building in 96 at the Soul Train Awards. Tupac and Biggie were there. That is something i will remember for a long time to come.
he running trying to save his life , so he can enjoy spending all them millions he made , when he gets older . he is now traveling the world enjoying life . where are the fools who stood his ground with no pistol, but alot of pride and ego !! there are standing in one place in a box six feet under and their family is broke as hell . their childrens are in the streets . poor choices ruins many fools lives and fools ruin a lot of innocent people lives .
@ProudMommy: Raya😍 can't go just anywhere , but you can go places where money will thin the crowd out very quickly. to spend a day cost no less than $10,000. per person . so I guess fools like you will not be there and I never said money was everything.
@@rubenbarrera7338 We all gotta die one day. What counts is what you did, and the memories you left behind, so him being dead doesn’t Matter, he accomplished more stuff than people who lived a full life, he was only 25. Stop hating and get on yo grind, your biggest accomplishment is trolling on RUclips 😂😂😂😂
@@rsggrindtime5x that's one of looking at it. But I disagree. It's stupid to die in your 20s over some lame ass dumb shit. You might glorify that level of stupidity but I don't.
He was young, talented, and reckless. He was playing a character in which what got him killed. From what I've heard he had a nat for jumping people. He was terrible in one on one fights and is known for picking up weapons to defend himself. Tupac was a very intellectual young man with hopes of being an elite actor.
Puff ran because he was guilty for striking first blood!!! He got Suge right hand man killed for 10 on the dollar.. everybody knew this and was at his throat the Cali bloods was saying anybody get him or Big will become made 5star generals and Pac just wanted bump he felt big set him up to get robbed but Big didn't know his junior mafia click had a play in it. It's most definitely true my guy Puff was on the edge and up the bounty to the crips out la on Suge and Pac 💯
This is my childhood. Man it seem like yesterday when all this happened. I was in the 9th grade when all this happened and when they passed. Man my 2 favs. Hip Hop wouldn’t be the same if they were alive. But GENE TELLING THE TRUTH. His story hasn’t changed in 20 plus years!
It's sad that 2 great Hip Hop Legends had to die over this foolishness and immaturity.They both would have been so much more if they lived past this.puffy definitely is responsible for biggies death.
Yeah but their deaths weren’t related to their beef. 2pac died from some crips for being too loyal and helping his friend in a fight and biggie got set up and killed by P diddy. It’s sad they had to separate because of diddy. Can’t call it foolishness when you get shot 5 times on your way up the elevator to the only people who knew you where coming, so of course you’re gonna lose your mind. But they where young and young minded. R.I.P. to both legends🕊🙏🏾
@@michaelapplon6282 that’s a lot of explaining brother but it’s a proven fact but society won’t believe it because monkey see monkey do. But you watch real interviews, real documentary’s on the case on the people that killed him, biggie was killed by no street dudes and P diddy was told people wanted to kill big and he brushed it off as if he didn’t care and wanted it to happen.
@@trix_ant25 “Being too loyal” You mean acting a fool and hitting a hitter that he had no business putting his hands on, then paying the consequences for it?
💯 N that's the issue, pac and big got killed, n the 2 who made that happen r still here! 1 ballin, the other not at all, but still here none the less! Pac and big should have still been here n the other 2 gone if needs be! 🤦♂️ Utter bs man
I have watched everything involving the Biggie/Pac feud and I thought City of Lies was great. Murder Rap tried to make Russell Poole look crazy but he just cared about solving the case for Ms Wallace
Correct, Biggie's death was a major blow to the LAPD and the FBI currently has the case still open. Biggie's death was part of a major Rampart scandal that was exposed when he was murdered. 🎯
@@seventy2south886 Thank you! Biggie's legal team came up with that 400 million 💵number because of Biggie's future potential earning since Biggie had a successful records label , clothing line, management team and ect. The City of Los Angeles is going to pay once the new pieces of the lawsuit are put together again. Even Ice Cube said it best, Biggie's death was more of a government cover-up! ✔
Can't be any lower than what hip hop is now, dudes wearing dresses,nails painted,kids with guns in they music videos, rappers dying and getting locked up before they turn 20
BET shunned pac and let Biggie perform at the awards show because of what pac did and that would of been a negative strike against BET and the community if pac had his way. WHOA.
I was actually at that award show and saw them arguing. This shit just blew my mind... I've never heard anyone tell it until now, but me and my boy left class and snuck into this award show at Santa Monica civic auditorium around 3 in the afternoon. I met Russel Simmons and a gang of other industry legends. Walking out of the show, the limos were lined up, and Pac was out the sunroof looking back talking shit to Puff. Crazy man. Puff was yelling at Pac telling him to move his shit. I saw puff get out, but i was being ushered to move away from the limos, and didnt see puff after that. I remember that afternoon like it was yesterday.
That's crazy. 🫢 I bet you do remember that like it was yesterday. I definitely wouldn't ever 4 get something like that. What U witnessed was apart of something epic. Awesome sharing of your story. 🫡
@@therealityofitall4819 IF you know the history he was ALREADY! On the west coast .....Basically his whole RAP career was based in Oakland! , he was just so respected everywhere he always went back home.
@@therealityofitall4819 He didn't ran shit outta NY peon. Pac was already living on the West Coast and had went back East to film movies. Get outta here with that clown talk.
Gene said pac accepted the award (not)🤦🏿♂️but after what pac did to Biggie , Don Cornelius was not having it "This Don Cornelius telling you, not in my house! Your air time has been revoked!" 😆 and sanctioned pac like Obama sanctioned putin 😅 "Not in my house!"🤣. Gene credibility continues to errode. Lil cease was right ✅️
@@sfanah3176 The Award Acceptance of Pac was never aireed. Pac can be seen congratulating D'Angelo for winning a Soul Train Award. Htptiwny [i.e., (May) Peace & Blessings be unto You (All)]
Of course it was, you're talking about young 20s somethings being pushed by the elite to beef with each other to fatten the pockets of rich Jewish record executives.
That's what it sounds like. Gene probably was like just take care of my family, now go on get outta here and Puff dipped, and didn't think they saw Puff
RIP.... to BIG and PAC. Always been a fan of Both. But It's been soooo many years and people are Still talking about all of this. These stories need to be laid to rest. Back when all of this was going on... I was in my 20s. Now I'm 50. I'm really tired of hearing about it. Its like when Dame Dash keeps talking about Jay. "Let it go and move on in life". ✌️
in all fairness, people keep asking dame about jay . but i agree with you. at this point i'd like interviews to be more focused on their experiences with pac and big in the studio, how they made a particular record, what was the process like, how they felt when records hit . their music and influence was bigger than the beef. i wud like to hear a whole pod of how songs from life after death or ready 2 die was made than all that bullshit that should have never happened to begin with
@@HurricaneRonnie I was walking down the strip young & drunk when Pac got shot! Tried to get into 662 that night with my folks but was too young...it do seems like yesterday
This is a damn shame our own people can't even gather together without one or two ignorant fools saying or doing something to provoke violence. My advice to all, distance yourself from these type of people who act like thugs with no civility or respect for life. These Devils who look for trouble are no good and will get you killed over dumb sh_t. Sometimes your own people can be your worst enemy.😐
Lol Puffy was safe with his security, but decided to take off running smh. Then later that night gets upset, saying “I don’t care if Big gotta die, I don’t care if Pac gotta die, or Suge Knight gotta go to jail but something gotta change”? You played a big part in the escalation. Now when it’s getting hot, you afraid? Miss me with that.
Hell yeah! He was the one who put out Who Shot Ya as a radio single to escalate the issue. Then someone from his entourage, not Wolf, shot and killed Big Jake. Puffy's entourage also got into a beef at the Freaknik in 95 with the Mob Pirus who were protecting Suge Knight. Puff should have handled his problems with Suge from the start but instead, it got Pac and Biggie killed.
@@daniel022209 Exactly. Suge told him that they could meet in the bathroom and squash it but once again, he was scared. He acted like he had no knowledge of Pac getting shot at Quad when Henchman told him the hit was coming. Pac saw that Puffy was a fraud because he was the one biting his style and didn’t put money on his books when he was in prison.
@@daniel022209 Who shot ya was a b-side to big poppa remix that didn't work the radio dj's pick who shot ya and who would've thought Mr Thug Life wpuld be so sensitive about a song that made not one reference to him
It's crazy, I just seen the vlad interview with "Un" Rivera, who was business partners and was with Biggie everyday. The stories match up. "Un" even mentioned that biggie performed in big gene shoes that night. I know that big Gene is telling the truth because his story has never changed. Shout out to bro for speaking the truth.
At the end of the day…we the people will never know exactly what happened. Too many conspiracy theories. Too many holes in stories. Too much time has passed to get the real truth. All we know is two of our best MCs were violently murdered and taken away.
lol yeah even though napoleon wasnt there, and the dude he interviewing told him, those dudes didnt see puff, they prolly just heard that he ran , but never actually saw him
God bless Gene for given this generation those amazing beautiful stories about BADBOYS RECORDS & DEATH ROW RECORD'S concrete histories. God bless you big brother, I wish I have a hand shake from 2pac Shakur. Rest in peace soldier @2pacshakur
Slightly confused because in another video Gene Deal said that Puff said where they at? Pac looked at Puff and said "im right here" and then Puff ran, jumped through a window, on too a tour bus and escaped.... This is Gene Deal telling a different story of the same account
It's crazy how people got channels just to talk about Pac. I don't think any Hip Hop artist will ever make this type of impact on the world again. Pac is the best who ever done it not just musically but his personality got people talking about him since 1996!
His music did and does all across the globe. When he died I remember asking my cousin who we were going to listen too now. Not just as a musician but as a voice for the community!
I'm sad that Biggie and PAC weren't able to have a grown man conversation ( by themselves) to discuss how they were being manipulated by the industry ( the people) around them. They could have worked it out as men and collaborated to make another great era of music!
Tupac was obsessed with the beef and never let anything go. Even his friends say that. Read the unedited album notes for Makaveki released about 4 years ago. Does that sound like a reasonable, mature individual?
@@NicoleNikki173 How am i lying if you read the unedited Makaveli album notes, they were written just before he died, google them - or the rant about Big he gave on stage at the House of Blues? Tupac was boasting how we was destroying Big’s career. He contradicted himself all the time, whatever he said to the Outlawz. Napoleon might say that but Tupac’s actions speak differently. There’s also artwork for Makaveli you can google which wasn’t included on the album because he died, where Big was drawn as a pig and called Notorious P.I.G.
Stop it. Gene genuinely been telling the same story for years and it’s WELL documented from MWreck to his own channel. This don’t have nothing to do with money
@@hoodieleek4272 Gene been trying to sell his story for years that nigga looking for a pay check cause if he was really disgusted with how Puff handled business he would've stopped working for him March 9th
So Gene Deal is pretty much saying Puffy did run but it’s no way Tupac seen him running. So Tupac got that story from someone else and made it seem like he was there when Puffy ran.
More second hand stories from Gene. Only first hand account he can give about that entire award show is him speaking on what Puff did. Gene was NOT Biggie’s bodyguard. He even said in this video that he and Puff left the venue prior to that incident when Suge pulled up on Biggie out front of the award show.
@@JourneyIITaj Probably at the venue. Not outside of that. Nothing wrong with him doubling to secure Biggie while he was at an event. He still only held Biggie down while Puff spoke to others at the party and as he got into the truck to leave. Nothing other than that. The feds got all that on video. They probably even got the true suspect on video. We will never know because the video abruptly ends as they pull away. Common sense tells me they recorded way past that point, but did not want to release it for whatever reason. Maybe they’re involved. Maybe they wanted Biggie gone. Who knows. I just know common sense says there’s way more to all of this than we all will ever know.
This shit has got to be some of the craziest shit ever in that moment. They were was supposed to make good historical music and a lot of money. You never hear about a Death Leopard/ZZ Top or Kiss/Aerosmith beef, it was way too much!
puff was outnumbered, he aint jackie chan. puff was scared of suge not pac , lol in the 90s a lot of peeps in the hiphop industry was scared of suge until he started getting knocked out. i remember when he came to a d12/dre/50 cent video shoot or sumfin and everybody except proof disappeared. and proof cursed him out face to face.
@@jay2chill134 they would've killed pac regardless, wether he beat up orlando or not, because puffy ordered them to do so. Tupac only sped up that process by punching orlando, but they would've got him anyways after vegas.
@@boxkilla7314 I think Biggie part, more of Biggie did not say anything according to Little Cease! Biggie did not want to be negetive vibe so told Cease we got better thing to do!
I read that pac went on stage and he got the mic from LL cool J. I believe they were no longer taping the awards. Big had already left. Thats the only way they let Pac in the building once Biggie left. When pac was speaking receiving his award they cut off Pacs mic and so the rest of the audience that was left (because a lot of people left) due to the show most likely being over couldn't hear pac. They just saw his lips moving. Pac was pissed. I read this from someone that was at the event that worked at the venue that night and saw it happened. I read this about a decade ago
@@3rdGenerationCancer They were cops, the fact that he didn't know is irrelevant. Pac was more wild before death row everyone knows this. You call me a fanboy yet you cry in every Pac video on this channel, you're an obsessed hater, basically a stan lmao. Keep crying kid.
First he say he trust the dude bcuz he a cop. Then he say don’t believe the movies because it was said by a cop. He’s everywhere. & he tells stories where he somehow always is the only thorough one or the only smart one or the only tough one. Gtfoh
No you just Hurd it like that because that’s what you want to hear, he said he trusted the cop because he knew him since 86, so that’s a 10 year relationship, yea you left that part out to fit ya narrative lol.
I Love Gene man he tell it how it is! he don’t disrespect 2pac or Biggie, and his story never changes. Everything he been saying has been coming to Light now also! 👀💯💯
If i`m not mistaken Keefe D said his people was doing security for Puff that day of the Soul Train awards. And he said Puff did not run. I don`t know who to believe.
Not Keefe D that's for sure. Out of all these so called witnesses Gene Cease Mutah(Gadafi) are the most credible and a few of the females who's names I can't recall ATM.
@@lamontallen9435 I think all of them mix truth with lies though. For example; Mutah claim Suge got shot in his chest when Pac got shot 🙄. Suge said he got shot in the head not the chest. And theirs no news reports of Suge getting shot in the chest. And Pac`s photographer said he went to the hospital Where Suge and Pac was at and he said he overheard the doctor say that Suge cut in his head came from a glass or debris. And Gene Deal claim that Biggie got in a car accident because of Tupac. Lil Cease said its a lie. That is why i don`t know what to believe.
@@PPHDocumentaries True,but that's why I say they are the most credible and didn't fully commit to them being the most truthful.. The majority of what they say is honest imo. As Far as Mutah he wasn't in Vegas so anything that went on in Vegas would be second third or fourth hand info to him. So I take those accounts from him with a grain of salt but other instances before Vegas I'll ride with him..
@@lamontallen9435 I know what you was saying, i was just saying that i don`t believe everything people in both camps say that includes Tupac, Biggie, Keefe D, Lil Cease, etc.. Gene Deal story about Puffy seeing Suge is hella suspect because Puffy is known to have multiple body guards with him in NYC and at the time at least, he did not have any beef in NYC. Why would he have one body guard with him in LA when he has beef in LA? Especially considering the fact his associate killed Suge friend Jake who was a member of the bloods. That would put Puff in serious danger of retaliation. And Gene claims when he seen Suge and his goons, he told Puff to go take care of his family, i got this. But why would he let Puffy roam around in LA all alone when Puffy got serious beef beef in LA. It would have made more sense if they both ran and hid, that way he can try to protect Puff just in case he run into beef. That`s why Gene Deal story don`t add up to me. I want to hear Puff side of the story.
The problem with comparing the Bill Cosby thing to Puff is not the money side of things, its that Cosby had a lot of people come out and testify against him...that wont happen with Puff.
Wrong... Regardless of the amount of people who testified against Bill it was all hearsay with not a drop of evidence. Bill was a threat to the white supremacist establishment. Puffy was/is aiding it. Puff was putting out destructive content for black society. Bill's content uplifted black society and they aren't having ANY Black man women or children do that period!! When Bill Cosby produced A Different World black high school graduation rates increased and enrollment at HBCU's increased over 100%! And those are actual verified stats....
@@beerrrr6869 Definitely had me heading towards Southern University or Central State University but during those times out of state student enrollment fees were deadly 😂 So I had to settle for an in state institution. A decision that I still regret..
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That's why Pac said "now u tell me who won, I see them they run"
Lol 😂 facts tho
Puffy ultimately won. He's an old man with more money than he needs. Puffy has been getting away with manipulating the guys he sign into sexual favors. Guys have came out and said what Puff did to them but it just gets forgot. Puff is a sick evil SOB.
They don’t wanna see us. 🫵🏾
Who is they? BIG didn’t run!
😂😂😂🤣
I can listen to Gene tell these stories all day.....he just takes you there
I think he's partly lying
@@GoGetYourShinebox really???🤔....why?....all his stories are so consistent
@@mrsmukk I dunno, just a feeling. Liars are good at keeping consistent stories too. But as we are on the outside there’s no way we can know for sure if someone’s lying or not
@@GoGetYourShinebox to be a good liar you need to have a good memory. Every time gene tells a story the details remain the same. You dont need a good memory if ur telling the truth. Nothing changes no matter how many times you tell it. That’s how you catch liars. Gene’s details never change no matter who he’s talking to.
I’m on a Gene Deal binge right now.
Finally someone calls out the bs of that tv show and the cops claiming they solved it. Thank you Gene
I wish there was footage of all these unseen moments in Hip-Hop history
It wouldn't be the 90s if it had all that footage
Yea I would’ve killed to see the Lil’ Flip & T.I fight in Cloverland Houston.
If we had these phones back then.....most of these cats would have been locked up, flashing them guns, hip hop police woulda had a field day, all them Death Row bloods with records woulda been locked up. ...and be alive in prison
@@QueenCityKing704 t.i. got socked in the head and shots started going off then it was over not a full fight
@@QueenCityKing704 😂😂😂
Gene explaining the 90’s version of…..”PULL UP!”……👌🏿😉
😂
But back then it was "ROLL UP".
@@jamesjackson4558 Or, if you from the same Midwest city as me and Gene…..
“WE FINNA BANG!!!….”
😂😂😂
@@TheGobblersGetback 💯💯💯💯💯💯
That is a fact... Pac went on stage and BIG performed... I was there personally in the building. I almost got into beef at Venice Beach all because of my Yankee fitted cap and Tims...smh. We were so young and stupid.
dam boy i would have joined on pac team fuck bad boy!
Did they assume you was claiming Nutty Blocc ?
@@ChamP10nk1ng nah...I forgot to mention that I am from Brooklyn, NY. I wont lie. I started to reminisce on that day and didn't realize i wasn't painting a clear picture. I remember the energy in the room was 100 and I was far from home.
He didn't accept his award in 96 there's video of salt and Peppa saying he couldn't be there and accepting on his behalf.
@@Saluteme10288 I am not sure what you are saying...i was in the building in 96 at the Soul Train Awards. Tupac and Biggie were there. That is something i will remember for a long time to come.
I can imagine seeing Puff running all around in between cars & vans trying to hide haha
Screaming like a little girl, I bet.
he running trying to save his life , so he can enjoy spending all them millions he made , when he gets older . he is now traveling the world enjoying life . where are the fools who stood his ground with no pistol, but alot of pride and ego !! there are standing in one place in a box six feet under and their family is broke as hell . their childrens are in the streets . poor choices ruins many fools lives and fools ruin a lot of innocent people lives .
😂😂😂facts he gonna burn in hell for sure 😂
@ProudMommy: Raya😍 can't go just anywhere , but you can go places where money will thin the crowd out very quickly. to spend a day cost no less than $10,000. per person . so I guess fools like you will not be there and I never said money was everything.
@@nafteb nuff said my brother
2pac was applying pressure! Out selling everybody easyily! Real poet, real revolutionary, Real Nigga all the way around! 💯
All that pressure got him killed. damn
@@rubenbarrera7338 We all gotta die one day. What counts is what you did, and the memories you left behind, so him being dead doesn’t Matter, he accomplished more stuff than people who lived a full life, he was only 25. Stop hating and get on yo grind, your biggest accomplishment is trolling on RUclips 😂😂😂😂
@@rsggrindtime5x that's one of looking at it.
But I disagree. It's stupid to die in your 20s over some lame ass dumb shit. You might glorify that level of stupidity but I don't.
He was young, talented, and reckless. He was playing a character in which what got him killed. From what I've heard he had a nat for jumping people. He was terrible in one on one fights and is known for picking up weapons to defend himself. Tupac was a very intellectual young man with hopes of being an elite actor.
That was an act bro. Check out Tupac before he started acting like a gangsta, he was real sweet
Pac had Puff running and Biggie was hanging the phone up on Puff 😂😂😂😂😂
Facts, Puff was pussy 😂🤣😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂
Big wanted to slap that man after that 😂
PAC!!!
Damn! What does it matter if 2pac saw puff run or not? All 2pac knew was that puff ran. So gene confirms it to be true.
Exactly 💯
Puff ran because he was guilty for striking first blood!!! He got Suge right hand man killed for 10 on the dollar.. everybody knew this and was at his throat the Cali bloods was saying anybody get him or Big will become made 5star generals and Pac just wanted bump he felt big set him up to get robbed but Big didn't know his junior mafia click had a play in it. It's most definitely true my guy Puff was on the edge and up the bounty to the crips out la on Suge and Pac 💯
Got all that money running and a grown ass man atleast walk away bruh
@@cashgogetter6737Lmaoo running from a problem that he started lol
Facts 💯 FACTS Gene telling these stories makes you feel like his version is the best.
This is my childhood. Man it seem like yesterday when all this happened. I was in the 9th grade when all this happened and when they passed. Man my 2 favs. Hip Hop wouldn’t be the same if they were alive. But GENE TELLING THE TRUTH. His story hasn’t changed in 20 plus years!
I was in the tenth. :)
That should make you like 40
It's sad that 2 great Hip Hop Legends had to die over this foolishness and immaturity.They both would have been so much more if they lived past this.puffy definitely is responsible for biggies death.
Yeah but their deaths weren’t related to their beef. 2pac died from some crips for being too loyal and helping his friend in a fight and biggie got set up and killed by P diddy. It’s sad they had to separate because of diddy. Can’t call it foolishness when you get shot 5 times on your way up the elevator to the only people who knew you where coming, so of course you’re gonna lose your mind. But they where young and young minded. R.I.P. to both legends🕊🙏🏾
@@trix_ant25 wait would u be able to explain the story of how biggie got killed by p diddy?
@@michaelapplon6282 that’s a lot of explaining brother but it’s a proven fact but society won’t believe it because monkey see monkey do. But you watch real interviews, real documentary’s on the case on the people that killed him, biggie was killed by no street dudes and P diddy was told people wanted to kill big and he brushed it off as if he didn’t care and wanted it to happen.
@@trix_ant25 “Being too loyal” You mean acting a fool and hitting a hitter that he had no business putting his hands on, then paying the consequences for it?
Not for being “too loyal.” For being a follower. 2pac was a follower.
Ever since gene started his show years ago I’ve believed him and I haven’t changed my mind about him yet.
Same here
I like how Gene explains and breaks down stuff, dude is the realist.
I really hope they look back now and see how silly all that shit was 🤦🏾♂️
Aye bro that’s exactly what I be thinking hearing all this shit man
right petty forreal man! I had conversation with my professor and he said all that drama that was poppin was stupid , senseless , and petty!
@@dominicbrogsdale3348 Exactly everyone knows it was pure nonsense those two died over nothing
💯 N that's the issue, pac and big got killed, n the 2 who made that happen r still here!
1 ballin, the other not at all, but still here none the less!
Pac and big should have still been here n the other 2 gone if needs be! 🤦♂️ Utter bs man
Remember guys these were 18 - 22 year old guys
These young men didn’t stand a chance when the elders acted like kids!!!
There were no elders.
Man this man stories never ever changed one bit
I have watched everything involving the Biggie/Pac feud and I thought City of Lies was great. Murder Rap tried to make Russell Poole look crazy but he just cared about solving the case for Ms Wallace
Correct, Biggie's death was a major blow to the LAPD and the FBI currently has the case still open. Biggie's death was part of a major Rampart scandal that was exposed when he was murdered. 🎯
@@sfanah3176 right! They were not too worried about solving the case until 400 million got them motivated
@@seventy2south886 Thank you! Biggie's legal team came up with that 400 million 💵number because of Biggie's future potential earning since Biggie had a successful records label , clothing line, management team and ect. The City of Los Angeles is going to pay once the new pieces of the lawsuit are put together again. Even Ice Cube said it best, Biggie's death was more of a government cover-up! ✔
The truth tellers has no friends.
I thought it was well done too. Good film.
As “entertaining” as these stories are, as someone that witnessed these events unfold as a hip-hop fan, it was a low point for the culture.
Can't be any lower than what hip hop is now, dudes wearing dresses,nails painted,kids with guns in they music videos, rappers dying and getting locked up before they turn 20
@@four4four636 wearing purses ,dying dey hair purple and all dat weird shit
@@four4four636 and half of ‘em can’t even f****** rap
@@four4four636 my thoughts exactly. Facts
@@four4four636 No more story telling in these rhymes either….
Gene said the ‘97 Soul Train Awards…LOL!! Shit, if I saw ‘Pac in ‘97, I’d have ran, too…’cuz I either saw ‘Pac’s ghost or ‘Pac in zombie form.
Right! My thoughts! This guy is hellbent on talking trash about Puffy! Obsessed!
😂😂😂 I would have ran too! That's a Ghost 🤣
👍😅😭😭
he said “you talking about the 96 soul train AND the 97 soul train.. the 96 soul train awards” then goes into the story.. yall need to listen better
@@onlygodcanjudgeme1137 U need 2 read a calendar better…U hella late, Bro.
I always enjoy listening to gene.
I really respect me some Gene Deal. Firstly, civil servant and he took his side hussles just as serious as his main gig.
BET shunned pac and let Biggie perform at the awards show because of what pac did and that would of been a negative strike against BET and the community if pac had his way. WHOA.
Soul train not BET
The Same BET that sold the Company to White Gangsters !
@@MrWARBUCKS24 BET owns Soul train
@UCOeb1amxvse5GWCrfRukwQQ BET didn't own soul train in 96
@@DezAnaLyzer they didn’t own Soul Train in 1996
Shout to big gene for never changing his story no matter how many times he tells it🫡
I was actually at that award show and saw them arguing. This shit just blew my mind... I've never heard anyone tell it until now, but me and my boy left class and snuck into this award show at Santa Monica civic auditorium around 3 in the afternoon. I met Russel Simmons and a gang of other industry legends. Walking out of the show, the limos were lined up, and Pac was out the sunroof looking back talking shit to Puff. Crazy man. Puff was yelling at Pac telling him to move his shit. I saw puff get out, but i was being ushered to move away from the limos, and didnt see puff after that. I remember that afternoon like it was yesterday.
That's crazy. 🫢 I bet you do remember that like it was yesterday. I definitely wouldn't ever 4 get something like that. What U witnessed was apart of something epic. Awesome sharing of your story. 🫡
Puffy set Big Up , that's crazy
The only award 2pac ever won in his life and they decided not to show it. Shame
He was there cause I remembered when Deangelo won his award Pac stood up and gave him dap.
@@thatguyfrom313 didn't he take Rosie Perez to that one..
@@MrDamonte Naw the one he took Rosie Perez to was before that.
@@derrickbailey1714 pac was hitting errthang fam fam wasn't playing...
I was thinking the same thing. I wonder what he said.
Gene confirms that Puffy ran.
" They see us, they run "- Tupac .
"I see them*. They run."*
“Niggas be runnin’ away when they see you and shit” 2Pac - Ain't Hard to Find
2pac was fake as fuck.. literally went from a ballet dancer to a gangster and a thug.. from brenda got a baby to picture me rollin.. like really??
I don't know why people make a big deal about Diddy running. He aint a gangster and aint never claim to be one. He is what he is..
Was and still is a snake fr
Fck being a gangster, a man don't run
@@thefreakyrobber0
Yeah ok...
He is a actually smarter than Pac, suge and Big. You gotta give him that
He wanted to be the east coast Suge knight , listen to the 💩 he's talking on the song long kiss goodnight lol 🤣 he sounds pretty gangsta to me 😂🤣
This man Gene is telling nothing but factz 💯💯
They call him Puffy cause he running out of breath running 🏃♀️
Big called him Diddy because just when u thought u had won at Donkey Kong out comes Diddy. N thats a great comparison by Big.
Like 2Pac got ran out of New York City by Jimmy Henchman..
@@therealityofitall4819 f**k outta here goofy
@@therealityofitall4819 IF you know the history he was ALREADY! On the west coast .....Basically his whole RAP career was based in Oakland! , he was just so respected everywhere he always went back home.
@@therealityofitall4819 He didn't ran shit outta NY peon. Pac was already living on the West Coast and had went back East to film movies. Get outta here with that clown talk.
I appreciate your candour and honesty G!
I'm going to need Gene Deal's testimony in form of a signed affidavit.
Gene said pac accepted the award (not)🤦🏿♂️but after what pac did to Biggie , Don Cornelius was not having it "This Don Cornelius telling you, not in my house! Your air time has been revoked!" 😆 and sanctioned pac like Obama sanctioned putin 😅 "Not in my house!"🤣. Gene credibility continues to errode. Lil cease was right ✅️
That’s not gonna happen he’s making it up as he goes along his story changes every interview smh
@@sfanah3176 exactly lies and more lies
@@sfanah3176
The Award Acceptance of Pac was never aireed.
Pac can be seen congratulating D'Angelo for winning a Soul Train Award.
Htptiwny [i.e., (May) Peace & Blessings be unto You (All)]
@@Djomegaredtv
Making up what ?
cam capone and art of dialogue be back to back with each other lol
The two best interviewers
ruclips.net/video/ow3fo4L9iEQ/видео.html
Might as well merge cause its the same stories back to back
Between gene and reggie wright they done made over 100k in interviews tellin the same stories
Vlad aint doing his job well😂😂😂
Gene always speak facts
HOMIE IS A BUSTER.
Man... all that drama back then sound mad petty!
It was. Total dumb shit.
Thanks to BIG, if he came to see Pac he could've settled the issue. He chose not too hence all the events which transpired thereafter.
Pac should’ve won an academy award.
@@damianperera2690
Ok so Pac ate too much and 💩 the bed but it’s Biggie fault for not cleaning it up? 🤥 🤡
That’s how y’all Stans act
Of course it was, you're talking about young 20s somethings being pushed by the elite to beef with each other to fatten the pockets of rich Jewish record executives.
Pac saw puffy running but gene thought they didn't see puffy running..
That's what it sounds like. Gene probably was like just take care of my family, now go on get outta here and Puff dipped, and didn't think they saw Puff
C Gutter the releast out of Junior Mafia, should have been in LA with BIG
it wouldnt have made a difference in how things went
@Self Preneur I just don't think one "street dude" would be able to protect him from a city or state after Big
I am CRACKIN UP😂!!!! Gene would have made a BIG MISTAKE!!! If Gene had killed or gotten killed, puff would have let Gene's family STARVE TO DEATH!!! NOTE he NEVER said if puff made that suit or NOT! And I believe Napoleon and any other people that say they saw Puff running. ©2022
FACTS BRUH FACTS IM WITH U AND MOO (NAPOLEON) 4REAL 4REAL
RIP.... to BIG and PAC. Always been a fan of Both. But It's been soooo many years and people are Still talking about all of this. These stories need to be laid to rest. Back when all of this was going on... I was in my 20s. Now I'm 50. I'm really tired of hearing about it. Its like when Dame Dash keeps talking about Jay. "Let it go and move on in life". ✌️
Nothing new is coming from this old story! Let them Brothas rest in peace!
in all fairness, people keep asking dame about jay . but i agree with you. at this point i'd like interviews to be more focused on their experiences with pac and big in the studio, how they made a particular record, what was the process like, how they felt when records hit . their music and influence was bigger than the beef. i wud like to hear a whole pod of how songs from life after death or ready 2 die was made than all that bullshit that should have never happened to begin with
@@el84oro 🎯🎯
feels like just the other day though..damn time flys...im 40
@@HurricaneRonnie I was walking down the strip young & drunk when Pac got shot! Tried to get into 662 that night with my folks but was too young...it do seems like yesterday
It’s crazy how this was 27 years ago and people still trying to expect him to remember everything detail for detail 🤷🏽😅😅 (comments section)
Biggie did have on Timberland shoes at that 1996 Soul Train award look at the footage
This is a damn shame our own people can't even gather together without one or two ignorant fools saying or doing something to provoke violence. My advice to all, distance yourself from these type of people who act like thugs with no civility or respect for life. These Devils who look for trouble are no good and will get you killed over dumb sh_t. Sometimes your own people can be your worst enemy.😐
"These so called gangsters ain't got nothing on politicians"
-Nas
It’s more than one or two though - it’s a Shame
Young & Dumb. That’s the best way to sum that night up.
Lol Puffy was safe with his security, but decided to take off running smh. Then later that night gets upset, saying “I don’t care if Big gotta die, I don’t care if Pac gotta die, or Suge Knight gotta go to jail but something gotta change”? You played a big part in the escalation. Now when it’s getting hot, you afraid? Miss me with that.
Hell yeah! He was the one who put out Who Shot Ya as a radio single to escalate the issue. Then someone from his entourage, not Wolf, shot and killed Big Jake. Puffy's entourage also got into a beef at the Freaknik in 95 with the Mob Pirus who were protecting Suge Knight. Puff should have handled his problems with Suge from the start but instead, it got Pac and Biggie killed.
@@daniel022209 Exactly. Suge told him that they could meet in the bathroom and squash it but once again, he was scared. He acted like he had no knowledge of Pac getting shot at Quad when Henchman told him the hit was coming. Pac saw that Puffy was a fraud because he was the one biting his style and didn’t put money on his books when he was in prison.
@@daniel022209 Who shot ya was a b-side to big poppa remix that didn't work the radio dj's pick who shot ya and who would've thought Mr Thug Life wpuld be so sensitive about a song that made not one reference to him
Cream puff was a coward
@@jalenaverylloydaveryiisson8862 troll!!!!!
Maaan this Brotha has a photographic memory. Much Appreciated
He said "keefer D wasn't even with us, at that time"... don't let that go over your head
Because Keffe was at the back stage not with them. He would have shot at suge he was dumb back then if he was there
Typo Art. You put Source Awards.
This was at Soul Train Awards PAC wasn’t at the Source Awards
It's crazy, I just seen the vlad interview with "Un" Rivera, who was business partners and was with Biggie everyday. The stories match up. "Un" even mentioned that biggie performed in big gene shoes that night. I know that big Gene is telling the truth because his story has never changed. Shout out to bro for speaking the truth.
At the end of the day…we the people will never know exactly what happened. Too many conspiracy theories. Too many holes in stories. Too much time has passed to get the real truth. All we know is two of our best MCs were violently murdered and taken away.
And way too many 🐍 were planted on both sides 😑
True!!!! #GoodDay
Ummm ya we do know. Pac punched a killer. End of story
@@tylerraisl3939 who would have shot him anyway because there was a contract out on him for a million
Puffy was like 💨 🥾Im out!!!
This cat arguing with the person he's interviewing, talking about what Napoleon said...
Facts 😂😂😂
I know , I am like Huh , Yo info was second hand , so what are we still talking about.
That's what Tupac stans (not fans) do.🤣🤣🤣
lol yeah even though napoleon wasnt there, and the dude he interviewing told him, those dudes didnt see puff, they prolly just heard that he ran , but never actually saw him
@@BTman58 LOL LOL
Back then everyone ran when suge was involved. That’s smart self preservation
God bless Gene for given this generation those amazing beautiful stories about BADBOYS RECORDS & DEATH ROW RECORD'S concrete histories.
God bless you big brother, I wish I have a hand shake from 2pac Shakur.
Rest in peace soldier @2pacshakur
Slightly confused because in another video Gene Deal said that Puff said where they at? Pac looked at Puff and said "im right here" and then Puff ran, jumped through a window, on too a tour bus and escaped.... This is Gene Deal telling a different story of the same account
Nah gene story has been the same for the last 20 years
@@jaythawriter4940 nahh he changes his story often
Thats what Napolean said.
It two times they seen each other
He is taking about two different incidents
Biggie as usual stood firm and told everyone not scared of pac or his crew.
Biggie a true legend and the nicest emcee of all time.
He was super obese. Where was he gonna run? Not to mention I’m sure he knew C gutta was strapped.
@@newemoboy1 Biggie was a real thug before he started rapping, he can spot who’s actually about that life and who ain’t
Biggie was soft
Biggie hip was broken. He had been in an accident where he could barely walk. He couldn’t do anything but stand still
@@Ah_Yote not according to his own mom she said biggy had everything he wanted that he lied in raps smh
They’re both Dead for nothing..And that’s the sad part it’s all for nothing..Rest In Eternal peace to both of those brothers…
It's crazy how people got channels just to talk about Pac. I don't think any Hip Hop artist will ever make this type of impact on the world again. Pac is the best who ever done it not just musically but his personality got people talking about him since 1996!
These stories have no impact on the world. Ppl who look at Tupac as a hero will always b intrigued n ask questions about their hero.
His music did and does all across the globe. When he died I remember asking my cousin who we were going to listen too now. Not just as a musician but as a voice for the community!
True words!!
You act like there a 100 million people watching these videos there's Les than 100 thousand people watching these videos but I'm one of them lol
@@Mr-js9ly his music don't change shit in the world he just got more popular after he died
Gene is the Truth
I'm sad that Biggie and PAC weren't able to have a grown man conversation ( by themselves) to discuss how they were being manipulated by the industry ( the people) around them. They could have worked it out as men and collaborated to make another great era of music!
Pac wasnt on that!
Tupac was obsessed with the beef and never let anything go. Even his friends say that.
Read the unedited album notes for Makaveki released about 4 years ago. Does that sound like a reasonable, mature individual?
@@lucasm3879that’s a lie he told the outlawz when he comes back from La he was gonna talk things out with biggie stop lying on the dead
@@NicoleNikki173
How am i lying if you read the unedited Makaveli album notes, they were written just before he died, google them - or the rant about Big he gave on stage at the House of Blues? Tupac was boasting how we was destroying Big’s career. He contradicted himself all the time, whatever he said to the Outlawz. Napoleon might say that but Tupac’s actions speak differently. There’s also artwork for Makaveli you can google which wasn’t included on the album because he died, where Big was drawn as a pig and called Notorious P.I.G.
@@NicoleNikki173 I never heard that before
Seems like Pac knew Biggie had nothing to do with it and was always trying to cause a scene.
Seems like Big knew more about the situation, if not directly involved, but played the dumb innocent role.
@@msfergie5851 Pac knew the same shit Biggie knew Pac just wanted Biggie to do something about it. Meanwhile Pac ain't doing shit himself about it
@@mentlinc
Big facts
@@mentlinc Pac figured out Big Fat a$$ wasn't going to "DO" or say anything. Either to scary, or didn't want to implement himself in something.
@@mentlinc right
At some point Diddy wanted to give up on rap game after the demise of the Notorious BIG.
Gene: Pay me or I'll tell it all
Puff: 👎
Gene:🏃🏾♂️
Pretty much
ok, say it again.
Stop it. Gene genuinely been telling the same story for years and it’s WELL documented from MWreck to his own channel. This don’t have nothing to do with money
@@hoodieleek4272 Gene been trying to sell his story for years that nigga looking for a pay check cause if he was really disgusted with how Puff handled business he would've stopped working for him March 9th
@@MrWARBUCKS24 ppl get up every morning n go to jobs that they hate n deal wit bosses n co-workers that disgust them. Grow up!
That was the Soul Train Awards. Art you got it right in the video but the title says Source Awards
In other videos he says big ain’t say nothing just looked at pac so did other ppl they all said big just looked at pac so which one is it genie deal
He said in another video that wen pac was talking shit big kept saying "and so wat"
Well he did say he wasnt there he going by wat C gutta said
Same thing I was thinking
I'm surprised that he can remember all of these stories for 25 to 26 years ago, that's a great memory.
You don’t forget the truth son
That’s explains few things I thought was old age
Trauma sticks with you
So Gene Deal is pretty much saying Puffy did run but it’s no way Tupac seen him running. So Tupac got that story from someone else and made it seem like he was there when Puffy ran.
If it happened it happened. It doesn’t matter who saw it and revealed it if it’s true.
Exactly what he's saying
Puff done 10toes regardless 🏃♂️
Puff bitch ass still ran Lmaooo no matter how you put it dawg so many folks confirmed it
"We see them, they run"
More second hand stories from Gene. Only first hand account he can give about that entire award show is him speaking on what Puff did. Gene was NOT Biggie’s bodyguard. He even said in this video that he and Puff left the venue prior to that incident when Suge pulled up on Biggie out front of the award show.
Real Facts..
We know that but that weekend of the Vibe party Puff had Gene bodyguard Biggie.
@@JourneyIITaj Probably at the venue. Not outside of that. Nothing wrong with him doubling to secure Biggie while he was at an event. He still only held Biggie down while Puff spoke to others at the party and as he got into the truck to leave. Nothing other than that. The feds got all that on video. They probably even got the true suspect on video. We will never know because the video abruptly ends as they pull away. Common sense tells me they recorded way past that point, but did not want to release it for whatever reason. Maybe they’re involved. Maybe they wanted Biggie gone. Who knows. I just know common sense says there’s way more to all of this than we all will ever know.
This shit has got to be some of the craziest shit ever in that moment. They were was supposed to make good historical music and a lot of money. You never hear about a Death Leopard/ZZ Top or Kiss/Aerosmith beef, it was way too much!
Because ZZ Top & all those rockstars don’t promote gang banging & beef like rappers do
Exactly!
I said the same thing to my Wife, I told her “You don’t see Al Pacino shooting at Kevin Costner”🤦🏽.
@@jonp9300 oh your favorite rock stars promo drugs
There has been some rock band beefs but yeah none that escalated to violence
2 pac did not “accept “the award it’s on RUclips
did not 'except' LOL!
😂😂
@@universalconquest4447 voice to text lol I did not realize oh well Hahahahahaha accept
@@bigcav925 lazy bastard, lol 😆 j/k my dude. You right though, Gene is a liar 👍
@@jalenaverylloydaveryiisson8862 🧢…..
Puffy sounded tough on that diss song he did “Stop Yapping” where he mocked 2Pac over the “Hit ‘em up” song.
He killed him so he pretty much got the last word.
@@Fuq2 yeah, indirectly like a coward.
So Puff supposed to throw down when he outnumbered? Grow up child.
puff was outnumbered, he aint jackie chan. puff was scared of suge not pac , lol in the 90s a lot of peeps in the hiphop industry was scared of suge until he started getting knocked out. i remember when he came to a d12/dre/50 cent video shoot or sumfin and everybody except proof disappeared. and proof cursed him out face to face.
@@jay2chill134 they would've killed pac regardless, wether he beat up orlando or not, because puffy ordered them to do so. Tupac only sped up that process by punching orlando, but they would've got him anyways after vegas.
1:00 at pac died in 96 so whats the whole point of telling 97.?
Puffy let’s be honest you a punk or you would see me wit gloves! -Pac
Pac woulda beat the shit outta Puffy
How exhausting it must be to live continuously in the past....To recall so many negative events must be unhealthy.
To be fair all these dudes get paid for these interviews so I would talk about the past to if I got paid.
He’s a runner 🏃🏽♂️ He’s a Trackstar😂💀
Funny
Oooooooh waahaaaaasaaa ( buddy sing the song voice )
Diddy runs the city.
It was the Soul Train Awards. Not The Source Awards.
Gene tells like 75% truths
I just cant tell if its becuase he doesnt remember half the shit tbh
What did gene lie about?
Gene speaks the truth your a art dialogue nut swinger
@@boxkilla7314 I think Biggie part, more of Biggie did not say anything according to Little Cease! Biggie did not want to be negetive vibe so told Cease we got better thing to do!
@@zoounta lol he was taking about on wax
I read that pac went on stage and he got the mic from LL cool J. I believe they were no longer taping the awards. Big had already left. Thats the only way they let Pac in the building once Biggie left. When pac was speaking receiving his award they cut off Pacs mic and so the rest of the audience that was left (because a lot of people left) due to the show most likely being over couldn't hear pac. They just saw his lips moving. Pac was pissed. I read this from someone that was at the event that worked at the venue that night and saw it happened. I read this about a decade ago
I was 15 years old in 96 I remember all these I'm from Watts CA
Shalawam Yashashkar ✊🏽
He’s talking TRUTH
No he's not.. Biggie didn't run neither did Lil Cease.. Only one that ran was Puffy.. This is well documented..
Title doesn’t match the content - nice story telling tho poor journalism
Nah his story is confirming the rumors but he don't want to say anything embarrassing against puff.
Gene was real proud to be protecting Puffy, all the while knowing about all his dirt😮
Queen Puffy ran for his life when he saw Makaveli Tha Don💯💯💯
I see them, they run hahahaha. 2pac wasnt lying.
...YOU tell ME who won;
I see THEM, THEY run!
😆😆😆
It’s funny that line was true 🥊
They didn't know that C-Gutta kidnap kids. 😆
To be a teen during this era.. you new kids really missed out! Authenticity turned Fake!
All them dudes were fake.. I was a teenager too in that Era.. None of the real ones were rappers..
@@KingKito45 you must have known them all personally, huh? 🤔 But anyway, I wasn’t meaning “rappers”, I’m talking about the ERA.. the 90’s!
@@3rdGenerationCancer shooting cops, jumping people left and right... yea soooo fake gtfo
@@3rdGenerationCancer They were cops, the fact that he didn't know is irrelevant.
Pac was more wild before death row everyone knows this.
You call me a fanboy yet you cry in every Pac video on this channel, you're an obsessed hater, basically a stan lmao. Keep crying kid.
@@thisismobius it’s not even worth responding to these clowns. I’m sure they listen to Blueface. 😂 🤡
7:46 How do you say “look at it” but turn around & say “they didn’t show it”🤦🏾♂️
Everybody is a hero in their own story. Puff is with you, his security... and you saying he ran.
His with you...his security
Did puffy have his track shoes on?
He wouldn't have tooking care of your family bruh... it would have been all in vain 😅
Puffy wud have told his family the last thing gene told me was that he loved me and how great of a person I was 😅😅😅
@@Panther- lmao
Hes trying to make himself look like some mafia hitman
First he say he trust the dude bcuz he a cop. Then he say don’t believe the movies because it was said by a cop. He’s everywhere. & he tells stories where he somehow always is the only thorough one or the only smart one or the only tough one. Gtfoh
No you just Hurd it like that because that’s what you want to hear, he said he trusted the cop because he knew him since 86, so that’s a 10 year relationship, yea you left that part out to fit ya narrative lol.
I Love Gene man he tell it how it is! he don’t disrespect 2pac or Biggie, and his story never changes. Everything he been saying has been coming to Light now also! 👀💯💯
I Think one day that picture will come out!
Not if you don't interview jayz about Quaid city and puff stop being a coward to him jayz lol
So why is the NOI at all of these rap events? I never knew that. Just thought they happened to be there at the party BIG was shot.
Security
In the 90's NOI was the go to security for hip hop events the supposedly were able to keep niggas in check
Ahhh ok. Makes sense then. Don’t know how true it is but that would be the perfect way to back door someone, in the Bigs situation.
But it’s Crazy that guy in the NOI was the alleged killer of biggie
@@Solovisionwidthashots or maybe thats how the shooter(s) wanted it to seem..
This would have been good on Chappell Show a Charlie Murphy story.
Damn I was picturing Chappell due a skit to this aswell lmao
Puffy running seems to be a constant lol
Gene Deal loves to make himself look bigger than life. Trust he was running right there with Puff.
If i`m not mistaken Keefe D said his people was doing security for Puff that day of the Soul Train awards. And he said Puff did not run. I don`t know who to believe.
Not Keefe D that's for sure. Out of all these so called witnesses Gene Cease Mutah(Gadafi) are the most credible and a few of the females who's names I can't recall ATM.
@@lamontallen9435 I think all of them mix truth with lies though. For example; Mutah claim Suge got shot in his chest when Pac got shot 🙄. Suge said he got shot in the head not the chest. And theirs no news reports of Suge getting shot in the chest. And Pac`s photographer said he went to the hospital Where Suge and Pac was at and he said he overheard the doctor say that Suge cut in his head came from a glass or debris. And Gene Deal claim that Biggie got in a car accident because of Tupac. Lil Cease said its a lie. That is why i don`t know what to believe.
@@PPHDocumentaries True,but that's why I say they are the most credible and didn't fully commit to them being the most truthful.. The majority of what they say is honest imo. As Far as Mutah he wasn't in Vegas so anything that went on in Vegas would be second third or fourth hand info to him. So I take those accounts from him with a grain of salt but other instances before Vegas I'll ride with him..
@@lamontallen9435 I know what you was saying, i was just saying that i don`t believe everything people in both camps say that includes Tupac, Biggie, Keefe D, Lil Cease, etc.. Gene Deal story about Puffy seeing Suge is hella suspect because Puffy is known to have multiple body guards with him in NYC and at the time at least, he did not have any beef in NYC. Why would he have one body guard with him in LA when he has beef in LA? Especially considering the fact his associate killed Suge friend Jake who was a member of the bloods. That would put Puff in serious danger of retaliation. And Gene claims when he seen Suge and his goons, he told Puff to go take care of his family, i got this. But why would he let Puffy roam around in LA all alone when Puffy got serious beef beef in LA. It would have made more sense if they both ran and hid, that way he can try to protect Puff just in case he run into beef. That`s why Gene Deal story don`t add up to me. I want to hear Puff side of the story.
The problem with comparing the Bill Cosby thing to Puff is not the money side of things, its that Cosby had a lot of people come out and testify against him...that wont happen with Puff.
Wrong... Regardless of the amount of people who testified against Bill it was all hearsay with not a drop of evidence. Bill was a threat to the white supremacist establishment. Puffy was/is aiding it. Puff was putting out destructive content for black society. Bill's content uplifted black society and they aren't having ANY Black man women or children do that period!! When Bill Cosby produced A Different World black high school graduation rates increased and enrollment at HBCU's increased over 100%! And those are actual verified stats....
@@lamontallen9435 you are 100% right about the college enrollment, a different world defenitely made
Blacks WANT to attend college, hbc, etc.
@@beerrrr6869 Definitely had me heading towards Southern University or Central State University but during those times out of state student enrollment fees were deadly 😂 So I had to settle for an in state institution. A decision that I still regret..