a friend of mine picked this up over the Summer. One of the most beautiful planes I've seen out of the box. Thanks for doing a review and thanks for being awesome!
Thanks for reviewing the P-6E Hawk. It's a beautiful plane and great model. I've flown this plane for a flying season now (I live in Wisconsin so we unfortunately have an outdoor flying season!). It's a great plane and fun to fly but it is definitely not a beginner aircraft. I'm an intermediate pilot and it's a challenge to fly. I've never been able to land it in grass without it flipping and you need a pretty smooth grass field to take it off as well. The other problem I've experienced is that the 13x6.5 prop is quite large and on asphalt it will touch on take-off and landing very easily and chip the ends of the props! I've had great flights that went very smooth landed the plan and then discovered that the prop was chipped. I've been through three props on an asphalt landing strip. That being said, I love watching it fly through the air and it always gets attention. I fly larger glow fuel planes (Sig AstroHog; Top Flight Elder 40; Hobbico Twinstar, etc) and electric (Parkzone P-47, Flyzone Tidewater, the original Apprentice, etc), so I'm familiar with larger, heavier and faster aircraft as well.
I love this channel. This is the first episode I watched on the big screen using the Chromecast. You all have cable TV potential!! Looks awesome!! The video quality in the cameras is sweet.
That P6-E is one of the nicest bipes every designed - crossover between WWI and WWII, never saw action for US. Really nice scale model - and Balsa, no less. Viva la Balsa! Good review, bringing in local flyers and getting their opinions.
That was a fantastic landing. The perfect approach for a rear CG plane. Well done Peter !! Realizing the CG is bad after takeoff is the worst thing ever cause you know it is probably not going to go well. Great review!
I love the comment that it was a heavy pane , I was just thinking that a bit of weight would make these super light planesca bit more stable. This video , from all others is encouraging me to return to the hobby. I would just need a steep learning curve on the electrics..
9:27 most of the early WWII aircraft (all WWI planes) didn't have inverted fuel and oil systems so couldn't do any less than 1G manurers, I remember seeing a PT-17 do a barrel roll at an air show and hearing the engine sputter. Except for the elevator it seems to handle rather scale like
Love that Curtiss Hawk but not too suprised it flips on landing more often than not. Our P-6E micro is similar in character and needs bags of elevator on touchdown and power on to keep it on its wheels.
I am currently working on building my P6E it's almost done before it I have my Boeing PT-17 Stearman and what I have learned from my mono-bi plane transition is if the P6E is your first biplane don't assume because it flys sensitively that there's something wrong with it and that its garbage take your time and figure it out most scale classic biplanes will fly alittle twitcher than mono planes that's just the way they fly.
nice , thanks for the review. mow the grass shorter. In Fort Bragg Ca. we have gopher mounds and holes , power management on landing is a must. even then , we flip over . Fog Buster's is a short field with many obstacles and trees all around . look like the tail is built strong.
Note: lead is not for personal consumption. You don't just share it out like bubble gum.A tail heavy plane may tend to porpoise (this plane has a very conservative CG), but a nose heavy plane will crash every time you try to land it.
Enrico Henry I totally agree with you Enrico that would be one of the reasonsns that I wouldn't buy this plane for. After all the design and engineering they should've put a little bit more effort in the design of the battery compartment.
I just ordered one of these on sale, $129.99 ARF. I think I'm going to take off the pants and put some 3" field wheels on it right off. Thanks for the video.
Love you guys !! Any chance you will be in Virginia any time soon ? It would be so cool to have a 'surprise' visit from you guys. Love to fly my Mustang P51 D and Apprentice s 51. Great job guys !!
well I was faced with a real dilemma here I get on my laptop only to find rotor dr1 episode 8 was out and a new flite test episode was out o no what should I do watch dr1 or ft well I picked the ft episode first :)
it might be worth flying it with a 1300mah batt to decrease the wing loading (ya, i know about flight time and cg issues) like the electrifly series of planes
PLEASE,PLEASE do a beginner series on balsa construction. or even covering. I want to do a He-111 kit so bad but know very little about balsa and monokote
This is an ARF. There is no gluing balsa nor applying covering involved. Much cheaper and nicer to have inexpensive plane come from asia all ready for you to install the electronics and fly the same day. Cost of these ARFs is perhaps 1/4 as much as a unbuilt kit when I started in the hobby 35 years ago, and then we had to spend 40 hours building it.
I was talking mainly about repairs. I want the hobbyking storch. but donjt realy know how to go about repairng a crunched in leading edge,collapsed belly from hard landing, or punched in rudder from flipping over on a landing(demonstrated excellently in this episode
You probably couldn't fly upside down in a P-6, before they began pressurizing fuel tanks going upside down meant your engine would run dry. In more modern planes a ram air system provides a bit of positive pressure in the tank.
+Christopher Raff Even a pressurized tank can't feed fuel when gravity is holding the fuel away from the pickup (at the bottom of the tank, when inverted). A fuel tank with 2 pickups (one high one low) and a switching valve actuated by gravity would do it, and AFAIK that's what they use on full scale acrobatic/combat planes. The hose with a "clunk" on it in an RC fuel tank is a less complex solution, but it's not used on full scale planes because changing out that flexible hose would be a very large pain in the butt. Full scale planes don't use pressurized tanks, because they have fuel pumps. You might be thinking of a fuel tank inert gas system, which filters out Nitrogen from the air and uses that to fill the empty spaces in the tank to prevent explosions.
I miss the improvise pilots on FT videos, and different feedback from each one of them. *I was lucky enough to score one of this planes NIB for some gas money. Its gonna be a show piece in my man cave.
I find it such a shame that FliteTest has gone downhill in its entertainment factor. They're so informative, they've just lost that spark they used to have with Josh and the Swede.
Cameron Garcia yeah David Windestal ! He had great ideas , character and an easy going personality .. my favourite videos featured him .. edf afterburner!!!!!!
FLITE TEST, JOSH BIX, JOSH SCOTT, SWEDISH DAVID, FOAM AND TAPE PETER, CHADD CAPPER, AND BLACK OUT QUAD ALEX. PLEASE PLEASE DO ANOTHER GLOW PLANE REVIEW. A HANGAR 9 PIPER PAWNEE 40 OR HANGAR 9 P-51D BLUE NOSE 60. PLEASE
gaptoofgranny no, tip stalling is when airflow moves along the leading edge of a swept wing rather than over the aerofoil, causing the wing to stall. That's why many swept wings have wing fences or dogtooth leading edges.
Rather than me telling you where you're wrong (and there is more than one instance where you're wrong) perhaps you should do some research at the library.
Good grief, not the tip stall argument again! "Tip stall" is a colloquialism we in the hobby employ whenever a model is observed to drop a wing in a stall. Whether or not it's right... Let me see if I care... Nope.
I would enjoy seeing a nother scratchbuild of a low wing plane like: beecraft bonanzas, piper archers and scale everyday planes:) I bet many people would buy them. i know I would
hey that;s my thought always. But then having put FPV in a lot of scale planes ... it can be problematic. Many are too close to their gross weight to handle the extra weight of the FPV.
***** Yes that is an option too ('micro sized fpv components'). I did that on my F4F wildcat, so as to avoid handling problems and it worked. But the video system was not as stable as with the normal sized FPV components, and the image quality much worse than a good CCD cam.
why don't you guys put the measurement for every pieces on a plan for every aircraft's plan cause im new to the hobby i want to build the ft simple torch but i don't know the right measurement for the piece that i need
The plans are scaled 1:1. If you don't scale it up or down while printing (that's what the included guide is for) you have all the parts at exactly the right size.
this plane is balsa not foam, therefore it is heavier and has a higher wingloading, flitetest nerds cant fly balsa that well because they arent used to it, dont complain to the manufacturers
a friend of mine picked this up over the Summer. One of the most beautiful planes I've seen out of the box.
Thanks for doing a review and thanks for being awesome!
Thanks for reviewing the P-6E Hawk. It's a beautiful plane and great model. I've flown this plane for a flying season now (I live in Wisconsin so we unfortunately have an outdoor flying season!). It's a great plane and fun to fly but it is definitely not a beginner aircraft. I'm an intermediate pilot and it's a challenge to fly. I've never been able to land it in grass without it flipping and you need a pretty smooth grass field to take it off as well. The other problem I've experienced is that the 13x6.5 prop is quite large and on asphalt it will touch on take-off and landing very easily and chip the ends of the props! I've had great flights that went very smooth landed the plan and then discovered that the prop was chipped. I've been through three props on an asphalt landing strip. That being said, I love watching it fly through the air and it always gets attention. I fly larger glow fuel planes (Sig AstroHog; Top Flight Elder 40; Hobbico Twinstar, etc) and electric (Parkzone P-47, Flyzone Tidewater, the original Apprentice, etc), so I'm familiar with larger, heavier and faster aircraft as well.
Alex did some amazing flying in this video... keeping up with the plane, flying sideways and capturing loops etc. Nice.
I love this channel. This is the first episode I watched on the big screen using the Chromecast. You all have cable TV potential!! Looks awesome!! The video quality in the cameras is sweet.
I love it! Just flew in 13 degrees, 20 mph winds and my hopped up bixler 1 handled it! Sweet plane, sweet episode. Keep it up.
Good to see that Peter is opening up, keep it up bud !
That P6-E is one of the nicest bipes every designed - crossover between WWI and WWII, never saw action for US. Really nice scale model - and Balsa, no less. Viva la Balsa! Good review, bringing in local flyers and getting their opinions.
another great one fellas. i really liked the incorporation of the local guys into this episode.
That's more like it guys. Nice to see you putting the plane in several hands during an episode...
That was a fantastic landing. The perfect approach for a rear CG plane. Well done Peter !!
Realizing the CG is bad after takeoff is the worst thing ever cause you know it is probably not going to go well.
Great review!
Once again, the FT guys make an awesome video. Well done. I like how you got the opinion of other pilots on how the Hawk flies.
I love the comment that it was a heavy pane , I was just thinking that a bit of weight would make these super light planesca bit more stable. This video , from all others is encouraging me to return to the hobby. I would just need a steep learning curve on the electrics..
Good job! Man, big props to the drone guy, that was some great footage!
9:27 most of the early WWII aircraft (all WWI planes) didn't have inverted fuel and oil systems so couldn't do any less than 1G manurers, I remember seeing a PT-17 do a barrel roll at an air show and hearing the engine sputter. Except for the elevator it seems to handle rather scale like
Love that Curtiss Hawk but not too suprised it flips on landing more often than not. Our P-6E micro is similar in character and needs bags of elevator on touchdown and power on to keep it on its wheels.
Nice, fun review. It was definitely good to pass the transmitter to some "guest" pilots for additional impressions.
Fly it on scale grass and you won't flip it :)
What is this? Grass for ants? (wait...)
reminds me of Kerbal Space Program.
I am currently working on building my P6E it's almost done before it I have my Boeing PT-17 Stearman and what I have learned from my mono-bi plane transition is if the P6E is your first biplane don't assume because it flys sensitively that there's something wrong with it and that its garbage take your time and figure it out most scale classic biplanes will fly alittle twitcher than mono planes that's just the way they fly.
Great video! Its good to wake up and see another great video. Thanks from me in the uk.
Just want to say, love the chase plane view.
I love those cameras on the planes, it has the most amazing view
Do you know what cameras are they?
Probably the Mobius. I don't know for sure though.
Maybe. Thanks man
Nice air to air video from the quad.
nice , thanks for the review. mow the grass shorter. In Fort Bragg Ca. we have gopher mounds and holes , power management on landing is a must. even then , we flip over . Fog Buster's is a short field with many obstacles and trees all around . look like the tail is built strong.
Note: lead is not for personal consumption. You don't just share it out like bubble gum.A tail heavy plane may tend to porpoise (this plane has a very conservative CG), but a nose heavy plane will crash every time you try to land it.
The flip on landing is ,most likely the wheel pants. Wheel pants and grass don't play nice. :-)
they say that in the video
Mudux i was wondering about the battery shoved all the way to the front....that surely doesn't help...
Enrico Henry I totally agree with you Enrico that would be one of the reasonsns that I wouldn't buy this plane for. After all the design and engineering they should've put a little bit more effort in the design of the battery compartment.
To scale, the grass is the equivalent of 8ft high bushes. The real plane was not designed to land in 8ft high bushes!
Camsoft Studios Defiantly the real plane wouldn't land in 8ft bushes. Or would it ????? :) :) :) ;) ;)
I just ordered one of these on sale, $129.99 ARF. I think I'm going to take off the pants and put some 3" field wheels on it right off. Thanks for the video.
Love you guys !! Any chance you will be in Virginia any time soon ? It would be so cool to have a 'surprise' visit from you guys. Love to fly my Mustang P51 D and Apprentice s 51. Great job guys !!
Why would ANYONE give this a thumbs down? Beats me.
I saw a gopher coming out of a hole and grabbing the wheels !
well I was faced with a real dilemma here I get on my laptop only to find rotor dr1 episode 8 was out and a new flite test episode was out o no what should I do watch dr1 or ft well I picked the ft episode first :)
it might be worth flying it with a 1300mah batt to decrease the wing loading (ya, i know about flight time and cg issues) like the electrifly series of planes
Great review, keep up the good work guys. A little more practice for me and i would love to get this plane in the air.
OK I have one of these I think I will have to try this on the Swedes RC Explorer v2
ATB Malc
i would really love some plastic stencils for your speed builds
Dang, I thought that last landing had it! Awww! Lol. Nice review, enjoyed here.
This was a really enjoyable video! More like this please! :)
PLEASE,PLEASE do a beginner series on balsa construction. or even covering. I want to do a He-111 kit so bad but know very little about balsa and monokote
This is an ARF. There is no gluing balsa nor applying covering involved. Much cheaper and nicer to have inexpensive plane come from asia all ready for you to install the electronics and fly the same day. Cost of these ARFs is perhaps 1/4 as much as a unbuilt kit when I started in the hobby 35 years ago, and then we had to spend 40 hours building it.
I was talking mainly about repairs. I want the hobbyking storch. but donjt realy know how to go about repairng a crunched in leading edge,collapsed belly from hard landing, or punched in rudder from flipping over on a landing(demonstrated excellently in this episode
Josh: You built it, you have the honour to crash it.
Peter: I built an ultralight out of foam and will power, why do you do this to me?
Hermoso aeroplano Rc esperamos probarlos también 😃
Landing also in 8ft scale bushes on the runway (grass) is pretty extreme scale. LOL!
Great videos. Just curious when are you going to flight test some GAS planes? Why always electric??
Easier, cheaper and more compatible with foam. Also "the future" ;-)
Nice video guys really fun to watch. :)
More of this!
Its and honor to watch these videos
Great episode.
its the spats causing it to tip on the landing
Can you please do a review of the AXN floater jet from hobbyking.
You probably couldn't fly upside down in a P-6, before they began pressurizing fuel tanks going upside down meant your engine would run dry. In more modern planes a ram air system provides a bit of positive pressure in the tank.
+Christopher Raff
Even a pressurized tank can't feed fuel when gravity is holding the fuel away from the pickup (at the bottom of the tank, when inverted).
A fuel tank with 2 pickups (one high one low) and a switching valve actuated by gravity would do it, and AFAIK that's what they use on full scale acrobatic/combat planes.
The hose with a "clunk" on it in an RC fuel tank is a less complex solution, but it's not used on full scale planes because changing out that flexible hose would be a very large pain in the butt.
Full scale planes don't use pressurized tanks, because they have fuel pumps. You might be thinking of a fuel tank inert gas system, which filters out Nitrogen from the air and uses that to fill the empty spaces in the tank to prevent explosions.
I noticed the majority vote was this was a 4th plane or higher. Any recommendation on a 2nd plane for someone coming from the Hobbyzone champ?
Do a review on the old crow p-51
please do a p-40 and the savoia-marchetti sm.79 sperviero three engine bomber
You guys are great. Thanks
I'd rather have the receiver and ESC under the top hatch, and have a battery access hatch on the bottom of the fuse. Possible to modify the fuse?
Can you please do a beginner series about quads to? Cause mine doesn't work so well.
What problems do you have? There are a lot of experts in the multirotor section of the forum that can help you with about anything :)
I have been waiting a long time for a F4-U Corsair RC video but you have never done one of it. Can you please do one??
I have a t-28 Trojan s and it's a mini one from Horizon RC can you guys do a review on it
I miss the improvise pilots on FT videos, and different feedback from each one of them.
*I was lucky enough to score one of this planes NIB for some gas money. Its gonna be a show piece in my man cave.
i like the revues do more please
more beginner stuff though
Please review the smart plane
PLZ Do a Ft PBY5 A Catlina
It would have been great with more multicopter reviews in the future and not just model planes... Thanks
Bring Josh Scott back!
He is very busy.
I find it such a shame that FliteTest has gone downhill in its entertainment factor. They're so informative, they've just lost that spark they used to have with Josh and the Swede.
I found this vid quite entertaining myself. Excellent job Flitetest.
Cameron Garcia yeah David Windestal !
He had great ideas , character and an easy going personality .. my favourite videos featured him .. edf afterburner!!!!!!
Ya where is other josh?
hey guys were can I get this awesome plane
The same landing as my Parkzone Albatros.
FLITE TEST, JOSH BIX, JOSH SCOTT, SWEDISH DAVID, FOAM AND TAPE PETER, CHADD CAPPER, AND BLACK OUT QUAD ALEX. PLEASE PLEASE DO ANOTHER GLOW PLANE REVIEW. A HANGAR 9 PIPER PAWNEE 40 OR HANGAR 9 P-51D BLUE NOSE 60. PLEASE
I'd actually ignore your request if you screamed in my face like this. :)
Balu true
Can u review the champ rtf
finally a plane thats not made out of foam! :)
What was the camera in the cockpit? thanks.
didn't know there'd be a blimp in this episode.
Sou fã número Um ....queria saber se tem como vcs me enviarem um Kit de vcs ...Feliz Natal e Abraços amigos ....
Can Josh Scott do his own build?
so, how long does it fly with a 2200 mAh?
could you please do the hangar 9 me 109
4:05 tip stall? it's a straight wing biplane it can't tip stall. Only swept and delta wings can tip stall, you just mean wing stall.
anything can tip stall.
gaptoofgranny no, tip stalling is when airflow moves along the leading edge of a swept wing rather than over the aerofoil, causing the wing to stall. That's why many swept wings have wing fences or dogtooth leading edges.
Rather than me telling you where you're wrong (and there is more than one instance where you're wrong) perhaps you should do some research at the library.
Good grief, not the tip stall argument again! "Tip stall" is a colloquialism we in the hobby employ whenever a model is observed to drop a wing in a stall. Whether or not it's right... Let me see if I care... Nope.
trickhealey If it's a colloquialism then that's okay, I assumed it was being used in earnest.
I love this plane :)
Cool!...Thanks for sharing!!..
awesome guys!!!!
When r we getting the bebop drone video
I want to meet yall so you can show me how to fly a plane i so want to try it...
Build a P-47 , Senta a Pua ! (Brazilian squad , 1943)
Nice go arounds, need to pull the pants up so your pants aren't on the ground, isn't that a song?
you should make a competition, where you could win a prise of some sort, if you could land the biplane without flipping it over.
I would enjoy seeing a nother scratchbuild of a low wing plane like: beecraft bonanzas, piper archers and scale everyday planes:) I bet many people would buy them. i know I would
so many masts in the US. I guess thats how you all got 4g though and im still sending faxes
“Backwards nuts” sounds painful....
Landing on grass? Loose the pants!
They play havoc on grass over a few mm
Where is Josh Scott? I haven't seen him in a video for a while.
Busy with his main and voluntary jobs I guess, besides music and family he is a busy man :)
Balu thanks for the response. hope he makes a comeback, hes funny.
oh wow, don't see many balsa planes anymore.
What happened to Josh Scott?
Too much other work, family, not a lot of spare time, ...
+Pivotal Axe He was probably too annoying. But not quite as annoying as David the Swede..
he said 39% dual rates, 100% throws, but I thought the dual rate limited the throw??
Peter spiroll
What's an Ounce of altitude suppose to be??
+theCanadian777 Roughly 30 grams of height.
What drone do u use
Alex used to fly a Blackout Mini H Quad. But he mentioned he is flying a different one sometimes / now. Not sure which one though.
That is a great looking plane, you have to put FPV gear in her, and fly it. and get two of them and have a dog fight. LOL.
i don't think that plane ever saw combat
What's a dogfight, without bb guns (;
hey that;s my thought always. But then having put FPV in a lot of scale planes ... it can be problematic. Many are too close to their gross weight to handle the extra weight of the FPV.
Or they could put the mini fpv setup in it.
***** Yes that is an option too ('micro sized fpv components'). I did that on my F4F wildcat, so as to avoid handling problems and it worked. But the video system was not as stable as with the normal sized FPV components, and the image quality much worse than a good CCD cam.
Ray Charles 11:02
why don't you guys put the measurement for every pieces on a plan for every aircraft's plan cause im new to the hobby i want to build the ft simple torch but i don't know the right measurement for the piece that i need
The plans are scaled 1:1. If you don't scale it up or down while printing (that's what the included guide is for) you have all the parts at exactly the right size.
I WANT MORE VLOGS
this plane is balsa not foam, therefore it is heavier and has a higher wingloading, flitetest nerds cant fly balsa that well because they arent used to it, dont complain to the manufacturers
Or the plane is actually a bad aircraft. And just because they fly foam planes, doesn't mean that they can't fly a balsa wood aircraft.
whuuu? higher wing loading? balsa is lighter.
and bixler has been doing this since before foamies were a thing.
MIKE 222 Foam is heavy; balsa not so.
PELINHAS I know that, why are you telling me that?
MIKE 222 Oops.. I have meant to reply to someone else.
FliteTest you shoude buy the bpy catanlia seaplan its ready fun some people want to see it fly ### BPY catanlia RC seaplan
That's a "PBY"
Cool