Imagine you and another conscious being are the only two beings in the entire universe. There's only yours and its conscious experiences. Then you cease to exist. The only experience that could follow your end is the (other) conscious experience that didn't cease to exist.
Jesus said: "Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God" "In my father's house are many mansions, if this were not so I would have told you " "Lay up for yourselves treasures in Heaven, for where your treasure is there will your heart be also".
Thank you for bringing up Tom Clark's essay! I was just a little disappointed that you didn't get into Generic Subjective Continuity (from the essay). Would you consider doing a video just on GSC only, someday? It debunks the idea of a black void so many people seem to believe. Let me know! Thank you!
@@reanimationeas342 It does. New consciousnesses are born everyday, and consciousness will exist in the context of other brains after you no longer exist. So it'll be one of the consciousnesses that *do* exist that will be what follows death. This gives us very good reason to be kind to all life.
"nothing" is probably like being put under except you don't wake up. When I "went under" it was like going to sleep and waking up with no time having passed. There was just, nothing. It was quite peaceful. Yet the thought of that forever is somehow scary.
yes it's scary because you never wake up from it....hopefully something else is true instead....just not the hell idea....that would also be a very bad thing to happen when you died....I'm a very open minded individual so I don't know for sure what happens....
It's like taking an exam- it's scary before but after ... your perspective changes regardless of the outcome. I think death is like an exam... only there's one possible result and there are no worries about it 😉
But even so you know it was quite and peaceful imagine it happening but this time you dont know its quite and peaceful imagine that you dont even know that you don't know that is quite and peaceful its just nothing mg no one no thought not knowing there's no Coutts just nothing but what is nothing.... Nothing is something but if nothing is coming that means something is nothing what the hell tis hurts to think about and now I'm subconscious ab out my organs
Will sentient beings be alive after you die? Yes. So then your consciousness will be followed by one of those consciousnesses, because those will be the only experiences that will be going on at that point in time.
I was once scared of the thought of dying. My dad asked me “do you remember anything before you were born?” I said no. He replied with “then you know what to expect with death.” Sure the thought of nothingness is kinda depressing, but it’s also kinda comforting. I just hope I go quick, so I don’t have to think about the end.
Imagine you and another conscious being are the only two beings in the entire universe. There's only yours and its conscious experiences. Then you cease to exist. The only experience that could follow your end is the (other) conscious experience that didn't cease to exist.
@@streamline247 Soul or Consciousness is eternal. Soul is energy. Energy can neither be created nor be destroyed but can be transformed from one form to another. So we are eternal.
This nothingness really scares me and sometimes keeps me up at night. I wish I could believe in an afterlife but there just isn’t any evidence for it, and it makes no sense. I can not choose what I believe in. I wish I could.
Believe in what you want, if there is consciousness after death, you might not get what you want, but you'll be ready for it. If there is nothing, you'd never know. And who knows, there may be something after the long nothing, you won't have felt time pass until that 'something' happens. It'll have been a small moment. It's just like going to sleep with no dream, you just may not wake up. You'll never even know.
okok. so from wut i think ur scared of eternal oblivion because its the total annihilation of the self and u cease to exist. the thing about this is that by the time ur gone and are nothing, u would have no thoughts and emotions to think about wuts happening and tell if its good or bad. good and bad only make sense in terms of sensation and since death is the cessation of sensation there isnt a time where death is good or bad for u cuz u arent there. think of it like sleeping and not dreaming, it is just that nothingness and moment of peace before u start dreaming or wake up, but in the case of death u do not wake up and that oblivion would last forever, it isnt scary. u havent existed before u were born and didnt feel bad about anything cuz u were gone and didnt exist.
So are all Atheists unsure of what they believe in and just regularly go back fourth changin' their views from goin' to nothin' to reincarnatin'? If you wish to believe in afterlife then it ain't hard, just follow religion and it'll make sense from there, there's no real evidence to anythin' that comes after death, even nothingness.
@@musahaque2000 it isnt entirely certain ofc on wut will happen after we die. we’ll find out when we actually die and either way it wouldnt be harmful or bad.
Will sentient beings be alive after you die? Yes. So then your consciousness will be followed by one of those consciousnesses, because those will be the only experiences that will be going on at that point in time.
The same way you reasoned with it before you were born. We are waves in the ocean. It crashes against the shore and it’s gone. But the water is still there. It returns to where it came from, and where it’s suppose to be.
The thing is we'll really never know. What if you had a life before the one you're living now? There is no way of knowing and the best sense of relief is just saying you're lucky to expirience something amazing than not even existing at all. This is why worrying about or fearing death (wondering what death is, is fine) Is just meaningless. But living your life to the fullest and enjoying the most out of it, is just the best way to overcome that fear.
That is a great way to rationalize it. Just do mot worry about it. What ever is going to happen, will happen. We have absolutely no control of what occurs after our demise. I often tell people, what were you doing, the moments before you were conceived? And, obviously, nobody really knows. We were just fine, before our fathers sperm fertilized our mothers egg, and we will be just fine, after we are no longer around.
I always tell my friends that death is a gate to another life..this is not the first time we r living.. There was a life before this n another after this...we live forever ...whenever someone dies comes back more advanced than the previous life..that's why technology grows radically each time..we will all die n live again..
That's whats so annoying when you hear somebody say ,"well do you remember anything before you were born? you were dead for hundreds of years and suffered no inconvience" well what if you DID exist before you were born, what if you died and then became who you are soon after. People always like to think that we know. The mystery of an after life will forever be a mystery until your time is up, if you still have a concience.
And yet you CAN imagine non-existence? The sleep analogies and happy embryo scenarios ain't quite it, the busy organism is still busy. The paradox of absence has been the zero cipher at the heart of esoteric traditions for thousands of years. I have trouble imagining either of the two. Is there a third choice ? if so, I'll take it, Lol...
@@obibrandon7534 Of course not. If you COULD imagine eternal oblivion, it might be time to seek help. Both scenarios are equally unfathomable. And you may call me Sir...
Will sentient beings be alive after you die? Yes. So then your consciousness will be followed by one of those consciousnesses, because those will be the only experiences that will be going on at that point in time.
My perspective; imagine all the experiences you have experienced, all the relationships you have built, all the journeys you have covered, all the things you have learned and then one day it all vanishes becoming a memory to those who are alive. To me that has got to be the most pointless outcome.
@@Gigatheologian having fun makes you wanna have more fun which is something you can’t with the eternal oblivion theory it makes one person go what’s the point while another would wanna have as much fun as they can
@@Gigatheologian and I think the point he was trying to make was what’s the point of making memories if you’re just gonna forget about it anyways there isn’t a point to it not one that I can see anyways
This is scarier than anything you could ever think of. It's basically end of all hope when you sleep to death. Oh well, I guess it's just fair since we came from nothing anyway.
Imagine you and another conscious being are the only two beings in the entire universe. There's only yours and its conscious experiences. Then you cease to exist. The only experience that could follow your end is the (other) conscious experience that didn't cease to exist.
This is exactly the opposite of my opinion. There is no greater existential dread than the idea that I might have to _keep going_ after I've earned my goddamn rest. When life is over it should be _over,_ not keep going and going and going until you go insane at the end of time.
We don't come from nothing, we are made is spirit consciousness and physical consciousness. When the death takes to place the spirit consciousness absorbs the physical consciousness and either reincarnates or continues to live either in the astral plane, 4th or 5th dimensional heaven. The heavens lifestyle are much like Earth only most places are peaceful. I am a psychic medium and during my life I have watched many people and pets die and saw what happens during the death process. The end of your body's functions is not the end of you. Hope this info helps you💗🕊️
@@johannapetroff8459 do pets spirit still exist as well after death. The reason I’m asking is I swear I saw my cat that got ran over in our front yard following me down the lawn one night after I was feeding up my outside animals. I only saw him for a split second out the corner of my right eye but I swear I saw him
@@scottmeyn6187 they do, some like my dog stay behind three years. While I lived in my previous house, each night a large grey cat would sit on my coffee table and watch the house across the street. Even my dogs were aware of the cat. Later I discovered that before I moved into the house, when the cat was alive, he belonged to my neighbour across the street he liked to hang around my house. This went on for years. The one night the cat did not show up. The night, my neighbour died. I never saw the cat again. The cat and the neighbour were so bonded, the cat waited for him, maybe even guided the neighbour home.
Imagine you and another conscious being are the only two beings in the entire universe. There's only yours and its conscious experiences. Then you cease to exist. The only experience that could follow your end is the (other) conscious experience that didn't cease to exist.
But what if you get to go to Heaven after dying and for some unknown reasons all your friends go to hell? Would you be able to be happy at all? I would go for the digital afterlife one, thank you.
@@kavi5918 it's not really an answer it's more like common knowledge. You're forcing yourself to think eternity is scary when in actual sense eternity might not even be what you think it is your imagination of eternity is from human perspective it's not of our capability to fanton what it is, same has God think all you want you'll never 💯 know him he's an eternal being eternity in thought is scary but in actuality it's just like a new lifestyle
I cannot come to terms with it. I have an intense fear of nothing happening after death, I cannot comprehend what will happen if I do not exist and it severely agitates me thinking about it. I want to live for all eternity.
"Non-existence Before birth" was followed by a consciousness that's being done by a brain. Brains will do consciousnesses after the one reading this ends. And so if death is also non-existence, then death-as "non-existence before birth" was-will also be followed by a consciousness that's being done by one of the brains that are alive.
@@naturalisted1714 back that theory up why don’t you Oh wait you can’t so quit spewing that bullshit at other people you don’t know anymore than the next person
Will sentient beings be alive after you die? Yes. So then your consciousness will be followed by one of those consciousnesses, because those will be the only experiences that will be going on at that point in time.
Even is one believes in the Eternal Oblivion Theory, it never hurts to live a moral life. First off, you (hopefully), do no injury to others. Second, if there IS an afterlife, you've hedged your bet - if not, you'll never know it anyway. And third, living a moral life has its own rewards. mho.
There is no way anyone can comprehend let alone imagine eternal oblivion cause if I am not mistaken, none existence in the absolute sense is not something anyone can or would be fimiliar since all we know is existence. Now the argument that what follows post physical death is what was pre-birth but there is not a compelling argument to why that make sense. Since we live in a time constraint existence, what would an end be consists of! He also said in the video that consciousness can not exist without a physical brain yet nobody in science can explain how the brain explains consciouness cause the brain at best only explains what consciousness does, how it qurrallates with the brain but it does not tell us why and what is the sensation of seeing red let us say so this guy is really beating a dead horse.
None of the replies invalidates my original argument. If there IS an afterlife, one has hedged their bet. If there IS NO afterlife, one has lived a just and moral life, hurting as few others as possible, and along the way, learned a form of moral responsibility. As Data was instructing Loal, he said that "the reward is in the journey." One can agree or disagree, but perhaps the idea is to cause the least amout of physical/paychological harm as possible to others.
It does put everything into perspective, but think of it like this…. 13.7 billion years of non-existence….. …..then all of a sudden - you existed for 80 or so years Then you die and stop existing. But who’s to say you won’t just pop into existence again. The non-existence before you were born is the same as the non-existence after you die.
If you go naturally, I believe you slip into a deep sleep that’s got very lucid dreams. Depending on what your lucid dream is is entirely down to the individual. Your brain will eventually decay but up until that point you won’t necessarily have a timeline. To you it may last for eternity but in reality the decay may be only a few hours or days.
Is that really a bad thing though? Lack of a purpose gives us freedom. “You will never live if you are looking for the meaning of life” - Albert Camus, follows the philosophy of Absurdism.
@@mikelopez6928 by unnecessary like the scrotum consciousness with the the ability ti have existenial feelings is a glitch in the grand scheme of things
Have no fear, because Eternal Oblivion is 100% unprovable, you can't prove Non existence exists. Thats like saying "its slippery when dry", Or at a restaurant, ordering a frozen water and melted ice, or ordering French fries without potatoes. Basically it suggests that existence was just some random accident and every thing within this existence is also a random accident. Really? So if you consider the total amount of people that have lived and died on this planet, that's an awful amount of random complex accidents happening on just one planet, wouldn't you agree? Everything we've achieved, photographing a black hole, being able to see light that's 13 billion years old (CMB or Cosmic Microwave Background) We've been able to observe far away Nutron Stars in visible light, we've sent probes to the boundaries of our solar system, even being able to study Voids and Supervoids. In fact Voids and Supervoids (known also as Intergalactic space) are the closest thing to an Oblivion as possible. When you consider that there's about 10 trillion trillion atoms per cubic meter, here on earth, guess how many atoms are in these voids? About 10 atoms per cubic meter of space, Human accomplishments like mapping the human Genome, DNA genetic sequences, Mathematics, gravity, subatomic particles, Electromagnetism, Plasma, languages, are all just random accidental occurrences, meaning essentially it's a contradiction of existence. I didn't know being Emo was a universal constant. And for those people who try and describe Oblivion 🤦♂️ please shut the hell up, because that's just beyond grasping for straws, because I'm going to demand to see postcards since you think you can describe something undescribable. Also this is clear proof that the only Nothingness that exists is within these people's heads. They seem to be very unaware how hypocritical their ideology is. They're critical towards others who have faith in whatever higher power they choose to believe in, despite the lack of scientific evidence. Yet they accept Eternal Oblivion as fact despite the lack of scientific evidence. How is that any different then having faith in something? Science tries describing Oblivion as a dreamless sleep, really? And yet Science has yet to explain what dreams even are, what their purpose is and what mechanisms in the brain cause them, oh wait i take that back, dreams probably just randomly manifested out of Nothingness. I remember Hawking years ago said "there's no afterlife for broken down computers" with all do respect that's a nonsenical statement, because if you want to go with the "our brains are like a computer" I'm no computer expert but what is required for a computer to function? Energy! and in order to interact with a computer you need software correct? But regardless of what state the computer is in, but the Software must of come from somewhere though, the computer didn't just create the software itself out of nothing did it? Take Nurons as an example, in order for them to function they send electrochemical signals (energy) throughout the body. If you remove all energetic activity from the brain, what do you think is going to happen to the brain? Basically it becomes an inactive, nonfunctional lump of matter that has the consistency of Tofu, in those terms think of the brain as the computer and Consciousness as the software, a broken cpu doesn't necessarily mean the software and information thats stored in its memory is permanently lost. So ok yeah there's no afterlife for broken down computers but the software still exists. So yeah even if the brain dies, the Energy and Quantum information that makes you....you, remains thanks to the laws of physics.
@@DarkSektori Hi, so that means there's a possibility of life after death? Death is sometimes compared to the situation or period of time when not being born.
I just wish this complexity of life had a longer future and all of the work we do in this life to build relationships didn't go to nothing. But it seems perfectly reasonable. Just sad in my mind because we have this incredibly strong desire to continue yet we have no control over that or ability to change it. Bummer.
@@melaniefeltsfagan1227 Your right, it technically is pointless to do things in life if your gonna stop existing one day. But it is also pointless to not do anything in life. Also, the complete nothingness after death is much much better than eternal life after death. Imagine how long of a time that would be. Since that life after death is infinite, eventually, literally everything that can happen will happen. At that point, life would be pointless.
Yea.. all that hard work, relationships, achievements, memories. All of that gone:/ I wish there was more to life. The best thing to do is to live life to the fullest
I believe it is the idea of dying that we fear, not death itself, and the only reason we fear death is that we (the living) know it hurts to lose a loved one, but death itself does not hurt the one who has died.
@@kofi3124 You’d have to first presuppose that death=nonexistence. The theory discussed in this video is a possibility but is not proven by any means. There are potential scientific and philosophical objections to it.
@@DendrocnideMoroidesIt’s really not because it doesn’t matter how much “logic” and “science” we have, we have no idea what the truth will be until we die.
@@jiro1281 See this hypothisis is the most sensible one for me, it could be wrong of course but I personally think compared to heaven or rebirth or whatever this is far more likely.
I would like to see an advanced mathematician take a look at this from a probabilistic stand point. Like, it's currently accepted that if the universe undergoes heat death, that the same expansion driving it will eventually give rise to another big bang, even if it takes an insanely long time. How long would it take before a new creature is born that possesses your mind? You may not remember much, if anything, about your prior existence, but it will still be your mind, your dead self "waking up" in a new body. How do we know this hasn't happened?
We were nothing. The universe came to be. We became something and became nothing. The universe died and another universe took its place. We become something and nothing again. 🔄
This also isn’t technically true. We were nothing before, we were all in the singularity at the beginning of the universe, even if just energy, we were there, just not made until now.
@@brunamartinspuxasacodavitoria No even when you’re sleeping you’re still semi aware, if it ends up just being nothing there’s nothing to worry about because you were aware before you were born and that’s how it’ll be after. No black no white no noise just non existence, no chaos no peace
NO we were always stardust being magnificence and we are natures highest primate perhaps it would be fair to say we are the inheritors of the star's and the minds of nature
One question though. For a said amount of time you did not exist, and then you were born. Through nothingness a consciousness arose. A consciousness that experiences itself and the world in "first person". How IMpossible it is for it to not happen again? What if the situation before you were born was the situation after an another consciousness died?
@@isplash5148 But if the conditions required for our consciousness arose from nothing, it’s not unreasonable to suggest those conditions may arise again.
While we are here alive on Earth, Try to live life the best we can. What ever happens after death, we will be the only one to see what becomes of us when that time comes. If there is any afterlife, we shall then move on from there. If there is nothing-ness after death, then that is it. Hopefully only our memories from others will persist about our life in knowing what we were and hope we contributed to make others life's happy and successful. So live every day the best you can.
@@mikeymorrison272 Whatever you say if you think this is Absurd. You will find out when you die if there is an such a thing as an afterlife or nothing.
@dathyr1 what if we all been in the same reality, and been dying before We are born at some point, then lose consciousness only to repeat everything again, we'll never know
Great comment that anyone, whether religious or not SHOULD be able to agree with. If you're someone of a certain religion, you may have to be "good", or act a certain way, do certain things in your life. So do them. Live your best life, the only one you can be sure you have. Live your best.
This nothingness gives me some inner peace. A peace of mind born from the thought that it's not needed to strive very hard in life to achieve anything because in the end you'll lose it all anyway, including yourself. Just live if you want too, or end it yourself when you're done living. After all, what does it really matter?
Imagine you and another conscious being are the only two beings in the entire universe. There's only yours and its conscious experiences. Then you cease to exist. The only experience that could follow your end is the (other) conscious experience that didn't cease to exist.
@@Leto85 Will sentient beings be alive after you die? Yes. So then your consciousness will be followed by one of those consciousnesses, because those will be the only experiences that will be going on at that point in time.
I absolutely think exactly the same. While others are affraid that nothingness will come I see it as something inevitable anyways. So whatever you do you will always end there soon or later and nothing will matter for you when you die.
Well, what if it is reality? That's what I think, because it is the most logical. It's like a light switch. It is on (you're alive), and it's off (you're dead). So simple to me.
@@PoeLemic It is simple for the body. It just ceases to be. Consciousness however is a completely different story. We still don't know what it is. There are many competing theories swirling around about it. Since I'm a spiritual person though, I have faith that it goes to an afterlife.
@@winterking2510 WK, I'm glad that you can hope on that. I used to be religious, and I really believed growing up. I had that same belief, but as the years have passed and I've learned more, I don't think anything exists after this. So, I hope that I am wrong and that you are right. If so, meet me on the Other Side, and let's have a conversation about how dumb I was. Okay? Promise to look me up, if I'm in the same place as you are ... [he he he]
@@poelemic3642 Eternity is just too immense to only hold one little human life for us. I look forward to talking to you on the other side. Live long and prosper!
I've thought for years about how the fact that I have consciousness now, at this moment, means that oblivion of death cannot exist. Perhaps our consciousness is like a clock, forever going in one direction, but going over the same numbers (in structure alone) eternally. Maybe we live this live once but our consciousness is aware at different times in that lifetime? Like Towelie, I have no idea what's going on...
@@abloogywoogywoo You’re presupposing that the state of death is the same as the state before birth. There is no hard evidence that these two states are identical. Before birth we are not conscious. After the sufficient conditions for consciousness are met, we are conscious. We do not currently know what the sufficient conditions for consciousness are, or what consciousness even is. Therefore, we cannot say for certain that death removes the conditions for consciousness. Even if we assume that death does remove the conditions for consciousness, we cannot say for certain that we will not regain consciousness after death if the conditions for consciousness return.
@@RealMonzer stop mystifying everything - your consciousness is BIOLOGICAL. It is depend upon and is a byproduct of the mind. When the mind dies, your consciousness ceases to exist. It is in the same state as it was before you were born = nonexistence. This isn't hard to understand. You want to buy a product and still argue you still have your money with which to purchase. You can't have your cake and eat it.
"Try to imagine how does it feel like to go to sleep and never wake up, now try to imagine what was it like to wake up after never been to sleep" ~Alan Watts~
I didn’t finish the video while writing this but I just wanted to say something. I’ve heard some scholars say they don’t fear oblivion because then they would know peace. Except I feel like that goes against the concept of oblivion because you wouldn’t KNOW peace. Honestly the idea of nothingness terrifies me every day. Is just I die then suddenly the heat death of the universe happens? My memories, my experience, all things I loved and cared for, I would have no awareness of it. Truly, Nothingness scares me
The thought of eternal nothingness can be terrifying and depressing to the conscious mind but that's only because we are alive and aware. Death is timeless and unconsciousness
@@leonardogabrieltrevinoloba2377 I don't mean peace as in an absence of war, content, or happiness. I mean true peace = nothing. For someone who has ADHD and their brain feels like its always on fire, it literally won't switch off even when sleeping and even the dreams are as stressful as the waking world, Death, i.e. a dreamless sleep without end, is peace.
For people here who need something to reconcile with possibility of eternal annihilation of awareness. I think it's important to recognize the place you are in. Despite there being originally, completely nothing. Somehow, something came into existence. The grass outside your window, the fabrics of your blanket, even you, a conscious, aware being, came from that impossibility. A lot of people talk about the eternal stillness of our universe, the heat death of everything. But personally to me it's ignorance. We exist in a place that shouldn't even be possible, atoms can't just have always existed. They had to be created. But how? From nothing? That defies everything. And yet, so it is. There is so much beyond our observable universe. There is a brink humans can never explore past as things are just moving to fast away from us. You are already living in eternity. People can fling things around like odds, possibilities. Say the conditions for you existing again are point zero quadrillion one to the quadrillionith power. It is meaningless. If you pull the lever on casino slots long enough, eventually you will hit the jackpot. It's but a matter of time. I don't like speaking in definites, but you live in a place that shouldn't even be possible, but yet here you are. I'm terrified of eternal unawareness, but I try to take solace in the knowledge that anything is possible. Just because to me this is my one and only life, who's to say I haven't opened my eyes in a billion different lives already? Enjoy this life for what it is, it's very easy to be scared of the unknown. But it's ok, we live in a space of endless possibility.
im still fucking terrified and sad at the same time that all of this will be for nothing.. if i can't even fkn remember it. then whats the point life is a gift. but at the same time. a fkn curse
@@Tater4200 I think that's up to you. I think eventually we all get complacent about life. Infinite life, we'd all want to restart it and go from scratch. Maybe we're all meaninglessly entertaining ourselves. But in my eyes, we all contain a special gift nothing else can contain. Meaning. Everything is meaningless. But the living find a point every day. Eating food, having children to continue a species, finding and building shelter, safety. And then there's higher levels of meaning. The emotions we conjure up in story, culture, music. Spreading and sharing ideas. Invoking imagination and creation. Conveying our experience. Sharing memories and bonds with one another. It's all pointless. However, you deny that pointlessness, your existence denies the reality of everything. Because unlike it. You can do something it cannot. You make a reason to be alive. You create your own meaning for this meaningless place. By existing, every moment, you are doing something so utterly out of turn from how this place functions without you. By having wants, needs, desires. There may be no grand meaning or point. But your point, your meaning and goal for this life, is everything. Whatever your goal and passion for living is. Reach out to it and take ahold of it for all it's worth. Because it's of my opinion, your meaning for life, your life. Is everything. You are the meaning. You are what makes existence beautiful. I understand how easy it is to fall into that despair of grand futility. But I think it's important to change perspective, and see life, your life, from a new angle.
Late reply but I think I know the answer. The reason why there is something is because nothing... can't exist or happen. Meaning that the so called "eternal" oblivion would be a 0% possibility (unless it's actually something which it isn't), of course, we don't know what happens after death, but I think that sticking with your beliefs would be what would happen after your death. Personally I believe in heaven
The strange thing is that the concept of 'not knowing' about something requires an active brain. Thus, it doesn't make sense to talk about that if we're considering a dead brain (dead person).
I think in some kinda mysterious way, we are all connected to the same consciousness. It's an illusion that we experience individual consciousness. Therefore, no one ever really dies. Why is there something rather than nothing? The universe exists, there is no such thing as nothing.
Yes!!! My dad taught me this, our energy never dies, we will move on to another life, so there is nothing to be afraid of! Because there’s no nothing! What’s nothing? You can’t experience nothing because nothing can’t exist when there has to be something. You will start a new life, you will never be “nothing”, is what I try to help myself.
“Death is nothing to us. When we exist, death is not; and when death exists, we are not. All sensation and consciousness ends with death and therefore in death there is neither pleasure nor pain. The fear of death arises from the belief that in death, there is awareness.” ― Epicurus "After your death you will be what you were before your birth." ― Arthur Schopenhauer "There is nothing after death, and death itself is nothing." ― Seneca the Younger
When you really think about it and how the world, life, and the universe works it makes the most sense. I think we all know deep down that there is no getting out of this so we invented ideas and beliefs to comfort the harsh reality of our own mortality.
Just sharing my ideas on this... I'm an atheist. I have been suffering with a bad depression for over 11 years, and I have agonia when thinking about death since I was a little child (I have memories of fearing eternal oblivion since I was 2 years old, my first memories that I can still remember are about this fear). Due to my depression, I often desire death but at the same time I fear it. I would prefer to have something instead of nothing after death. I have not existed for more than 13 billion years. The thought of not existing FOREVER is terrifiying. Eternal Oblivion just nullifies you. There is no you to feel anything, or even to have the awareness that you existed and died... it sucks. It hurts me terribly. If I could I would believe in spirituality even if it is bullshit because it would be more comfortable for my mental health but i can't just force myself to believe in divine beings and afterlife. If I could force myself I would.
“The heavens declare the glory of God; And the firmament sheweth his handywork.” Psalm 19:1 KJV “For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope.” Romans 15:4 KJV “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” John 3:16 KJV “that if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.” Romans 10:9-12 KJV I would advice you to look in to Christianity. At least you’ll have a hope for the afterlife . “Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.” Hebrews 11:1, 3 KJV “Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.” John 20:29 KJV
@@gabrieljr3089 I know pretty well about christianity. I've read the Bible many times. And Christianity is not agreeable or likeable, simple as that. Even the Islam is easier to believe than christianity...but as both religions come from the same root, both are anti-cientific. I don't want to feel comfortable based on lies. I'm not looking for comfort.
If you go to nothing you won't know it. All cultures historical art and/or writings illustrate a belief in some sort of life beyond our physical existence. I think this is reason enough to give the concept of the afterlife careful consideration.
it’s the fact we literally didn’t exist that always makes me feel the wonder. not that i was in a huge sleep of nothing WAITING to exist for billions of years, but that my existence was the chance of a single sperm. It’s very interesting to think about before rather than after. If “my sperm” wasn’t the lucky one. Would I have ever became me? Would the other sperm be me? Beautiful thought.
@@bradley6676 I have had the exact same thoughts about the chanses of, let's play with the thought that sperm nr 7 made it before me, would that have been a completely different man? Logic says yes, but it's a mind bending thought experiment. Mental gymnastics. I don't believe in souls, spirits or gods or anything of that nature, but would any of that soup of sperms have been me?
Either we become liberated spirit beings that can transcend time and space with friends and family for eternity (or until reincarnation) OR we have a deep dreamless sleep. I’ll take it
A lot of times when I think of the possibilities of things in the universe I think, why would the universe do that because the natural state of everything is nothing, and there shouldn’t have been anything able to come out of that nothing, but yet here we are, something, and this gift of life alone is the only proof, and hope of something that keeps me going
My theory is: Consciousness is not a part of our body; it's just an energy that works with our brain and body to experience life. When our brain and body no longer function, our consciousness continues to another life, like it will never end.
Honestly the human brain can't process what happens when we die so... Nobody really knows and tbh most people's idea for after life is just to make them feel better
@@TheSpiritualSaiyan But here's the catch. While it's true that we don't know, there can't be nothing. What eternal oblivion theorists lack is that nothing can't spring something, and therefore it's impossible to happen, even science says this "Energy can't be created nor destroyed" and a famous philosophical quote from a famous philosopher "nothing comes from nothing". If "eternal" oblivion is true, then it wouldn't even be eternal because we exist, not to mention it wouldn't even last at all since we will continue to exist via another universe, a new universe, the afterlife, among other things. Reincarnation is far more probable than eternal oblivion because eternal oblivion implies that something came from nothing which is false
Saying theres Nothing after death is for people with no moral compass and do not want to take accountability for there lives. I hate to break it too some people but ive been going to sleep and waking up for eternity in this life , past lives and future lives , not just this realm but many realms ! My energy and consciouness like yours doesnt stop ! When my vessel is done it will merge with God consciouness and the process will restart again when i find another vessel ! YOU WILL EXPERIENCE EVERYTHING AND ANYTHING YOU WANT ! THIS IS THE BEAUTY OF ETERNAL CREATIONS ❤❤
If this theory is true then there will be no death at all almost every creature have to pass through the death circle and I'm strongly agreed with afterlife
You missed the fact that all of science has failed to explain (phenomenal) consciousness. How can you even hypothesize what happens if we can’t even define consciousness.
@@kareemdurrant139 it’s a saying that math can’t explain consciousness, and consciousness can’t explain math. These are two aspects of our universe that will never make sense.
Ive been tormented by this theory for the past 20+ years and needless to say i have been fighting depression for nearly as long. Im 28 and have had multiple surgeries / transplants in my life since a kid so it weighs on my mind heavy and to this day i take meds to help me in day 2 day life cus at times if i stop for a moment and let my mind go to this theory it freakin hurts internally and knowing it ive grown distant from every one that i love and consider if bringing a Child into the world and possibly to the same realization is worth it.
Bothering yourself over a fact that you can’t change will only lessen your human experience. For me, eternal unconscious is the worst thing. But worrying yourself will only harm your short time on earth
I can see this happing but at the same time how can someone describe young kids remembering their “past life” to the point they know where things were and people find these things after the kid described it?
Yeah I’ve heard and read of academic journal articles of this. It kind of gives me hope for the existence of reincarnation. But even if nothing happens after death, I’m okay with it because if it’s meant to be then it will be.
@@shodan2002 thats a very blunt answer, if you actually looked at the research , its very interesting. Scientists dont take story's as evidence. they do the leg work to prove the validity etc. It goes beyond what a kid can imagine.
@@deniahmetaj nah tbh its really jus calming and relieving to think death would probably be like that. i’d rather not exist forever than be in heaven bored for eternity or be in hell suffering for eternity. i’d go for reincarnation too btw but mostly oblivion
@@elliast no it's more depressing. Imagine so much will be going in this world but you would not be able to experience it. A eternal sleep is fells more scary than hell
Well. Reincarnation would feel like oblivion for the observer. It is pretty clear that we don't remember our past lives. Therefore we as a being are objectively gone after death
Imagine you and another conscious being are the only two beings in the entire universe. There's only yours and its conscious experiences. Then you cease to exist. The only experience that could follow your end is the (other) conscious experience that didn't cease to exist.
Human Got Reincarnation after Dead, Just like in Animation from Pixar "Soul" Visit Another Dimension, Erase the Memory, Karma Calculation, if He/She Did a lot Positive things then will Send into Good Place, Another Human who did a lot Negative things will Send into Bad Dimension. Never Last Ending Life 😇😇😇
This makes me appreciate life more instead of wanting to die. You were given an opportunity to live in this world, don’t waste it. The only thing that’ll be left of us is memories once we’re gone.
It is a bit strange that we should pretend to know what nothingness might be like, and all of the amusing references to "when I was nothing" or "when I did not exist" only seem to emphasize the paradox, since it is NOT something we can possibly know or experience. When we are in deep dreamless sleep, there is still alot going on and we are certainly still there. It seems that the wish for non-existence is no different than hoping for eternal life, both are equally incomprehensible to us and therefore one need not be troubled by either.
This is my condensed version of "Death Nothingness and Subjectivity" ... Imagine, hypothetically, that you and another conscious being are the only two beings in the entire universe. There's only yours and its conscious experiences. Then you cease to exist. The only experience that could follow your end is the (other) conscious experience that didn't cease to exist. Or I can put it like this: Will sentient beings be alive after you die? Yes. So then your consciousness will be followed by one of those consciousnesses, because those will be the only experiences that will be going on (at that point in time).
A lot of you are saying we came from nothing but if you can't remember how do you know? How do you know that you weren't a spiritual consciousness in a different dimension and when you are born into this dimension your past reference is erased and when you die it starts all over again possibly.
I used to be scared of the "void" that there is nothing after death, that you just end. Now it sounds almost conforting. Like sleeping and never waking up.
This is comforting. We are a blip on an eternal line...if no awareness before life or after... did we really ever exist? If so, what really is this reality? Is it real? Or maybe a realm of the universe experiencing itself. Allan Watts said...without biological eyes... the universe can't see itself...
Your questions are very very very difficult, the only answere is, God, a creator, have created us for a reason, for a reward, either paradise, or hellfire for wrongdoers, im so sure that we are gonna be held accountable for everything we do in life, better believe in one and only God that nobody has seen yet, than dying and risking your eternal life,
Part 1. During August of 1973, I was pronounced DEAD On Arrival, at a Medical centre, and at least half an hour passed by, and then my heart started to beat again, without medical assistance... During the time I was reported to be dead, I, that is "LIFE My Real Self", felt very much alive, but not in this universe, nor did I have a human body or any other type of body. I felt NO Condemnation or judgement, but only a depth of LOVE far beyond human understanding... I saw No relatives, family or friends, and no Form, except for the Presence of pure white LIGHT.
I can’t believe that theory or I don’t want to. I know most people don’t believe in the afterlife but I can’t deny the things I have experienced in my life that are completely contrary to this oblivion theory. When you see a loved one that has passed, right in front of you, it’s hard to NOT believe in the afterlife. I don’t know the answer nor does anyone else but I choose to believe. ✌🏻🇺🇸
I get the opposite of peace from watching this. I feel like I'd rather blow my brains out now than live my life out with this nightmare staining every nice moment.
Whatever it is, it's scary, because it lasts for eternity. The only possibility that would not last forever (relative to the person) is reincarnation so long as memory is wiped after every death.
Doesn’t last for eternity. Death isn’t eternal. Mathematically speaking anyways. There are a finite amount of matter in the universe. Eventually all matter can and will be reconstructed I. The same exact way given enough time. Long time period between eventual re-emergence? Yeah probably so, but not eternal. Probability statistics and math play a part in those timescales. You much more likely to literally be reassembled given enough time as opposed to not existing after death for eternity. That means zero probability of your matter and atoms somehow randomly reorganizing. Which they could do given anything short of an infinite amount of time. Which eternity is. Would it seem like eternity? No, because the moment you died and the moment you became again you literally wouldn’t know if 2 seconds had passed, to you anyways. Anyone not dead would understand how long you’ve been gone.
The universe dies, new one gets born eventually, you get reborn as a new creature, you die, repeat the process that's how it works no one can change my mind
I am actually not scared of oblivion or missing out. But what plagues my mind is that if there is no afterlife and ''judgement'', as shown in tv shows like The good place. People who made others suffer immensely, are just forgotten. All their crimes eventually turned into history and nothingness. Like those never existed. But they did ,and due to the butterfly effect even it impacts us. How can life end on such an open note a book with no conclusion. The bad guys live their best life, die and never suffer . This is not fair. Life is not fair and that is hard to accept. The world is a horrible place, living in your bubble and pretending these atrocities don't exist, that someone somewhere is calling for help to no avail. But lets put on a fake smile, cause life goes on, am i right fellows?
I can certainly understand why people WANT there to be a higher power in the world. I really do. But WANTING something does not necessarily make it TRUE.
good or bad are just our concepts when you die you wont know that you suffer or not that you had a good or bad life or that you died at birth or at 80 life is just a blip in between 2 eternities.
All well and good, but what happens beyond the Eternal Oblivion? Could your consciousness easily be awoken again? Space and time would "not" be irrelevant. You could be born again in trillions, and trillions of years from the time of your death. In another universe perhaps? But it could feel you just woke up from a one good nights, sleep? There are so many things about the universe which we may never understand. What we do know is. Information is not lost, and given enough time. Even against all odds "Life, and consciousness finds away!" Could we be as eternal as the cosmos?
I completely agree, thank you. This is LITERALLY way more scientifically plausible than the above hypothesis. The eternal oblivion theory is actually very lazy and illogical. It completely disconnects one from the actual universe and its rules ergo also the STATE OF BEING. So it really is just very narrowly thoughtout and tbh it is due to a kind of zynical, dogmatic nihilism. Do you know the Theory by Donald Hoffman? Concious Realism?
The holographic theory of consciousness is an intriguing challenge to the grey matter enthusiasts. A standing wave replica of the self could linger after the physical body but not indefinitely. It may need a third, superconducting stage to complete the transition.
eternal oblivion cannot really be understool and its a headache to think about it, imagine when you go to sleep, you don't know "when" you slept, but then after you wakeup, you realize that you slept, and the time of sleeping (non consciousness) feels like a pause, if we project the same thing to death, there's no wakeup, so how will you know that you died/slept? how will you feel and how will you notice the eternal pause? trying to think about this really brings headache it seems like a consciousness dilemma
I exist only here, only now. I don’t exist on a mountain top somewhere in Madagascar. I don’t exist in a crater on the moon. I don’t exist on the ocean floor, or in Oslo Norway. In a way, I am “dead” in those places. Yet, my non-existence in those places (and in a countless number of others) doesn’t bother me. Death is possibly something like that. It might even be argued that there is more terror to be found in life than there is in death. But there are Oreo cookies in life.
Whatever your hand finds to do, do it with your might; for there is no work or device or knowledge or wisdom in the grave where you are going. Ecclesiastes 9:10 Live your best life, get to know the creator that is the I Am that I Am.
From a scientific point of view, there is a very very very slim chance that all or most of the atoms that make up you now could be re-aligned some time after death to become another conscious living thing, but whilst it's not absolutely impossible, the chance of this happening before the universe dims completely is infinitesimally small and would require the universe and the matter within in it to be almost infinite in its size.
I don't think consciousness has to do with the exact atoms that make up you as they are changing all the time as you breath and eat. Consciousness seems to be due to the way billions of neurons are arranged in your brain and the patterns they fire that correspond to each memory, thought, perception etc
@@awakenedhigherself9961 There are a lot of neuroscientists that think that based on the knowledge we've gathered about the brain already. We're discovering more and more how the brain is responsible for aspects of our consciousness, the hypothalamus for our memory, amygdala for fear etc (to oversimplify). When brains fire, with enough complexity, consciousness arises, a being that has a sense of self, due to loops upon loops of patterns and unfathomable complexity. Destroy a persons brain, and they are no longer conscious because the mechanism that is responsible for producing it is no longer working. If a person has a neurogenerative disease like Alzheimer's you can see the persons consciousness change, they are no longer the person they were as their brain is deteriorating and not firing as it used to. Anesthetic drugs cause brain circuits to change their oscillation patterns in particular ways, thereby preventing neurons in different brain regions from communicating with each other. The result is a loss of consciousness.
The comparison to the "pre-birth state" is, in my opinion, the one which works best when coming to talk about "What it will be like after we are dead". The fact is that, at least for what we know, we were never something before our birth, so we did not even care or were scared about dying just because...we never even lived. So I guess it's something really human to be scared of dying because we partly know what it means to be nothing for an unspecified amount of time, but at the same time we fail to grasp it at its fullest meaning. Maybe just because of fear, maybe because we live our lives knowing we are not eternal.
Eternal oblivion theory helped me get over my fear of death because I couldn't process how it would work. Trying to imagine how it would be to cease but I wouldn't know. Because I exist. But with being asleep with no dream or events I can't remember like my birth.
I feel uncomfortable about being an enternal oblivion theorist myself, but it is probably okay to feel that way. I prefer my anxieties to be raw and complete and clear. Like all the other feelings
This is why i don’t understand Gangs , War, Overdoses, Suicide, Beefs! Accidents! Why Do We Play with our life’s ? Why Make All Those memories Year after year day after day second by second just to die into nothingness or Whatever happens . We don’t know so no one has the Right to send someone into something we know nothing about realistically (Death)
The other thing I think about when contemplating eternal life is how awful it could be-even if you are doing the things you love, it would eventually become like torture. Eternity is a very long time, and if given the choice, I’d chose oblivion because it would go by much faster than eternal life
For me eternal life is not a tensionless state but rather the striving and struggling for some goal worthy of our time. It is not the discharge of tension at any cost, but the call of a potential meaning waiting to be fulfilled by ourself. It's balance for me.
Dude Heaven is LITERALLY almost whatever you want. God gives you the power to be in a new world where new goals that are literally impossible to imagine appear
@@UN1VERS3S I guess this makes sense. … Actually, the more I think about it , the more I really like this idea of eternity-cool! Thanks for sharing that
@@abdulnasirbushra6049 if that’s the way it turns out, great! Sign me up! I have nothing against God, I just really don’t love the idea of eternally doing anything, especially things that I love, because I’d soon hate them. And I love to find solutions to challenges, so we should be good! (As if it’s up to me to approve or not!☺️) Thanks for the comment!
I have always thought this is the most likely what happens to all of us. It might not be “poetic” or pleasant to think on, but it just seems the most likely.
The Neverending Story was about overcoming the deep depression and grief of the kid's mother's death - the "nothing" was the metaphorical mother-shaped absence in his life. Not that complicated, I figured it out when the movie came out. Then again, I've suffered from depression for my _entire_ life, which I can remember some of way, _way_ back. Most people don't have to start life with depression.
I used to be scared of the idea of oblivion, but after hearing about hell's doctrine, I'm definitely more open to see nothing after I die. It sounds healthier and fair.
Brings into question if this reality we see is only in our head as all our senses are signals to our brain and if there is no signal/no sense, essentially there is no 'world' and it whatever you do now would be as if you never did it at all. People say but think of the ones you left behind, but why? None of you would exist from my pov once I am gone because you only exist based on interpretation of my mind. If I slipped into oblivion and it is suppose to be like before I was born then i wouldnt have ever remembered this life at all so in fact I am already dead. If I am already dead does that mean I can't die and that in fact this death is eternal and therefore this life I am living now is eternal? Am I already dead?
What about the possibility of experiencing nothingness after death. That is not to say , the mind or consciousness ceases to exist; but that it does continue to exist, but being deprived of the five senses, it (the mind) experiences an infinite sea of nothingness forever. This I believe is the most terrifying prospect of what could happen after death, even worse than hell (because even in hell there is light and the company of others i.e., matter).
Imagine if we came to universe 2.1 where everyone lives for the second time yet they start to remember their previous life while growing up but we still die and then we go to the next and so on and so on forever. But this theory seems more realistic and at some point I find feeling nothing peacefull but since we do not know what that means its also scary. I find it sad that I would not see my love ones yet again I wont exist to care about it. In the end we live now and feel now so I just try to live my life as best as possible with good and bad days. After all everything could just be a illiusion and we wake up but we dont know and never will know in our lives so there is no point to find the answer which we wont get in life.
You are your loved ones. You’re every life in existence, which is infinite. You’re Hitler and the Jews who died in the concentration camps. Since everyone’s life is different it’s not so bad.
If I remember right, Stephen Hawking once said that the hopes of an afterlife is just a way of fear of the darkness. Trying to process this makes me think of existencial nihilism
Imagine you and another conscious being are the only two beings in the entire universe. There's only yours and its conscious experiences. Then you cease to exist. The only experience that could follow your end is the (other) conscious experience that didn't cease to exist.
Once I had an alcohol coma and honestly, it was total blank, just dark and no sense of time. After it I kinda associate it to death itself. It must be similar. No pain, no understanding, just void. It’s a bit scary I admit, and I’d rather be reunited with my brother, but you never know, and I wasn’t actually dead, so... 🤷🏻♂️
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Imagine you and another conscious being are the only two beings in the entire universe. There's only yours and its conscious experiences.
Then you cease to exist.
The only experience that could follow your end is the (other) conscious experience that didn't cease to exist.
Jesus said: "Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God" "In my father's house are many mansions, if this were not so I would have told you " "Lay up for yourselves treasures in Heaven, for where your treasure is there will your heart be also".
If energy makes everything, why couldn't the energy that made you reform a new conciousness?
Not some supernatural thing but simply energy reforming
Thank you for bringing up Tom Clark's essay! I was just a little disappointed that you didn't get into Generic Subjective Continuity (from the essay). Would you consider doing a video just on GSC only, someday? It debunks the idea of a black void so many people seem to believe. Let me know! Thank you!
@@reanimationeas342 It does. New consciousnesses are born everyday, and consciousness will exist in the context of other brains after you no longer exist. So it'll be one of the consciousnesses that *do* exist that will be what follows death.
This gives us very good reason to be kind to all life.
"nothing" is probably like being put under except you don't wake up. When I "went under" it was like going to sleep and waking up with no time having passed. There was just, nothing. It was quite peaceful. Yet the thought of that forever is somehow scary.
yes it's scary because you never wake up from it....hopefully something else is true instead....just not the hell idea....that would also be a very bad thing to happen when you died....I'm a very open minded individual so I don't know for sure what happens....
@@LadyVampireica To be and staying open minded is the best way of all!
It's like taking an exam- it's scary before but after ... your perspective changes regardless of the outcome. I think death is like an exam... only there's one possible result and there are no worries about it 😉
But even so you know it was quite and peaceful imagine it happening but this time you dont know its quite and peaceful imagine that you dont even know that you don't know that is quite and peaceful its just nothing mg no one no thought not knowing there's no Coutts just nothing but what is nothing.... Nothing is something but if nothing is coming that means something is nothing what the hell tis hurts to think about and now I'm subconscious ab out my organs
Will sentient beings be alive after you die? Yes. So then your consciousness will be followed by one of those consciousnesses, because those will be the only experiences that will be going on at that point in time.
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I was once scared of the thought of dying. My dad asked me “do you remember anything before you were born?” I said no. He replied with “then you know what to expect with death.” Sure the thought of nothingness is kinda depressing, but it’s also kinda comforting. I just hope I go quick, so I don’t have to think about the end.
How can I come from nothing? Only to return to nothing. There has to be something for something to come from.🤪
@@streamline247 Almighty God created you and everyone and everything!
Thing is no one knows what happens. Anyone who says they do is a liar.
Imagine you and another conscious being are the only two beings in the entire universe. There's only yours and its conscious experiences.
Then you cease to exist.
The only experience that could follow your end is the (other) conscious experience that didn't cease to exist.
@@streamline247 Soul or Consciousness is eternal. Soul is energy. Energy can neither be created nor be destroyed but can be transformed from one form to another. So we are eternal.
This nothingness really scares me and sometimes keeps me up at night.
I wish I could believe in an afterlife but there just isn’t any evidence for it, and it makes no sense. I can not choose what I believe in. I wish I could.
Believe in what you want, if there is consciousness after death, you might not get what you want, but you'll be ready for it. If there is nothing, you'd never know. And who knows, there may be something after the long nothing, you won't have felt time pass until that 'something' happens. It'll have been a small moment. It's just like going to sleep with no dream, you just may not wake up. You'll never even know.
okok. so from wut i think ur scared of eternal oblivion because its the total annihilation of the self and u cease to exist. the thing about this is that by the time ur gone and are nothing, u would have no thoughts and emotions to think about wuts happening and tell if its good or bad. good and bad only make sense in terms of sensation and since death is the cessation of sensation there isnt a time where death is good or bad for u cuz u arent there. think of it like sleeping and not dreaming, it is just that nothingness and moment of peace before u start dreaming or wake up, but in the case of death u do not wake up and that oblivion would last forever, it isnt scary. u havent existed before u were born and didnt feel bad about anything cuz u were gone and didnt exist.
it’s just like going to sleep and never waking up so it’s not that bad
So are all Atheists unsure of what they believe in and just regularly go back fourth changin' their views from goin' to nothin' to reincarnatin'? If you wish to believe in afterlife then it ain't hard, just follow religion and it'll make sense from there, there's no real evidence to anythin' that comes after death, even nothingness.
@@musahaque2000 it isnt entirely certain ofc on wut will happen after we die. we’ll find out when we actually die and either way it wouldnt be harmful or bad.
this is probably one of my greatest fears
Jesus saves
@@ariahhumphreys jesus didnt save any person or thing i wanted him to, therefor useless to me
same, every night i think about it and i get literally terrified
Stop clinging to life and don't pass it on to others who are unborn
Will sentient beings be alive after you die? Yes. So then your consciousness will be followed by one of those consciousnesses, because those will be the only experiences that will be going on at that point in time.
"Eternal Oblivion is something not to be feared but to be reasoned with."
How the hell do reason with literal nothing?
Bro ikr its so depressing to realize you're unstoppably going towards losing perception of absolutely everything including time
@@boredome_ You would get everything you want. You want nothing, you'll get exactly that.
The same way you reasoned with it before you were born. We are waves in the ocean. It crashes against the shore and it’s gone. But the water is still there. It returns to where it came from, and where it’s suppose to be.
@@saiormalik3109 no. Why would a god have different rules for everyone?
@@boredome_ 😭
The thing is we'll really never know. What if you had a life before the one you're living now? There is no way of knowing and the best sense of relief is just saying you're lucky to expirience something amazing than not even existing at all. This is why worrying about or fearing death
(wondering what death is, is fine)
Is just meaningless. But living your life to the fullest and enjoying the most out of it, is just the best way to overcome that fear.
I agree however not existing at all (which doesnt make sense for us) would probably still be chosen by some people since they wouldnt suffer.
That is a great way to rationalize it. Just do mot worry about it. What ever is going to happen, will happen. We have absolutely no control of what occurs after our demise. I often tell people, what were you doing, the moments before you were conceived? And, obviously, nobody really knows. We were just fine, before our fathers sperm fertilized our mothers egg, and we will be just fine, after we are no longer around.
I second this.... It resonates
I always tell my friends that death is a gate to another life..this is not the first time we r living.. There was a life before this n another after this...we live forever ...whenever someone dies comes back more advanced than the previous life..that's why technology grows radically each time..we will all die n live again..
That's whats so annoying when you hear somebody say ,"well do you remember anything before you were born? you were dead for hundreds of years and suffered no inconvience" well what if you DID exist before you were born, what if you died and then became who you are soon after. People always like to think that we know. The mystery of an after life will forever be a mystery until your time is up, if you still have a concience.
Its comforting to know that I'm not the only one who can't imagine consciousness with a dead brain, oh and that I'm an eternal oblivion theorist
And yet you CAN imagine non-existence? The sleep analogies and happy embryo scenarios ain't quite it, the busy organism is still busy. The paradox of absence has been the zero cipher at the heart of esoteric traditions for thousands of years. I have trouble imagining either of the two. Is there a third choice ? if so, I'll take it, Lol...
@@markjohnson4217 "and yet you can imagine nonexistence?" Never said I could kind sir/ma'am
@@obibrandon7534 Of course not. If you COULD imagine eternal oblivion, it might be time to seek help. Both scenarios are equally unfathomable. And you may call me Sir...
@@markjohnson4217 Okay...Sir
Will sentient beings be alive after you die? Yes. So then your consciousness will be followed by one of those consciousnesses, because those will be the only experiences that will be going on at that point in time.
My perspective; imagine all the experiences you have experienced, all the relationships you have built, all the journeys you have covered, all the things you have learned and then one day it all vanishes becoming a memory to those who are alive. To me that has got to be the most pointless outcome.
Pointless, but still could be true
Nothing pointless about it, if every vacation comes to an end does that mean you should never go on vacation?
@@Gigatheologian having fun makes you wanna have more fun which is something you can’t with the eternal oblivion theory it makes one person go what’s the point while another would wanna have as much fun as they can
@@Gigatheologian and I think the point he was trying to make was what’s the point of making memories if you’re just gonna forget about it anyways there isn’t a point to it not one that I can see anyways
"All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain".
Roy from Blade Runner.
This is scarier than anything you could ever think of. It's basically end of all hope when you sleep to death. Oh well, I guess it's just fair since we came from nothing anyway.
Imagine you and another conscious being are the only two beings in the entire universe. There's only yours and its conscious experiences.
Then you cease to exist.
The only experience that could follow your end is the (other) conscious experience that didn't cease to exist.
This is exactly the opposite of my opinion. There is no greater existential dread than the idea that I might have to _keep going_ after I've earned my goddamn rest. When life is over it should be _over,_ not keep going and going and going until you go insane at the end of time.
We don't come from nothing, we are made is spirit consciousness and physical consciousness. When the death takes to place the spirit consciousness absorbs the physical consciousness and either reincarnates or continues to live either in the astral plane, 4th or 5th dimensional heaven. The heavens lifestyle are much like Earth only most places are peaceful.
I am a psychic medium and during my life I have watched many people and pets die and saw what happens during the death process. The end of your body's functions is not the end of you. Hope this info helps you💗🕊️
@@johannapetroff8459 do pets spirit still exist as well after death. The reason I’m asking is I swear I saw my cat that got ran over in our front yard following me down the lawn one night after I was feeding up my outside animals. I only saw him for a split second out the corner of my right eye but I swear I saw him
@@scottmeyn6187 they do, some like my dog stay behind three years.
While I lived in my previous house, each night a large grey cat would sit on my coffee table and watch the house across the street. Even my dogs were aware of the cat. Later I discovered that before I moved into the house, when the cat was alive, he belonged to my neighbour across the street he liked to hang around my house.
This went on for years. The one night the cat did not show up. The night, my neighbour died. I never saw the cat again. The cat and the neighbour were so bonded, the cat waited for him, maybe even guided the neighbour home.
I'll either be nothing or be where my friends are. Nothing to worry about.
Imagine you and another conscious being are the only two beings in the entire universe. There's only yours and its conscious experiences.
Then you cease to exist.
The only experience that could follow your end is the (other) conscious experience that didn't cease to exist.
Wow that is the most comforting thing I have read on the internet in a very long time. Thanks!
If there's nothing after death then life is a cruel joke
@@highlander723 At least if that's the case you won't exist to care.
But what if you get to go to Heaven after dying and for some unknown reasons all your friends go to hell? Would you be able to be happy at all?
I would go for the digital afterlife one, thank you.
Having to deal with existence forever is my idea of hell. We can't even understand eternity much less live it.
I think u can live 1000 years max
imagine still being alive after 3000000 trillion years i think people dont overthink really what eternity means
@@indrit66 Trust me I do it's scary but I have found an answer
@@Ranceragegtgwhat answer
@@kavi5918 it's not really an answer it's more like common knowledge. You're forcing yourself to think eternity is scary when in actual sense eternity might not even be what you think it is your imagination of eternity is from human perspective it's not of our capability to fanton what it is, same has God think all you want you'll never 💯 know him he's an eternal being eternity in thought is scary but in actuality it's just like a new lifestyle
I cannot come to terms with it. I have an intense fear of nothing happening after death, I cannot comprehend what will happen if I do not exist and it severely agitates me thinking about it.
I want to live for all eternity.
"Non-existence Before birth" was followed by a consciousness that's being done by a brain. Brains will do consciousnesses after the one reading this ends. And so if death is also non-existence, then death-as "non-existence before birth" was-will also be followed by a consciousness that's being done by one of the brains that are alive.
@@naturalisted1714 back that theory up why don’t you
Oh wait you can’t so quit spewing that bullshit at other people
you don’t know anymore than the next person
It gives me the creeps
Dont worry nothing really exist😢😢😢,your won't ever know once you die because no brain activity,your loved ones you will ever see again.
If I die and discover that there's absolutely nothing, with no form of thought. I'll be fucking livid.
Will sentient beings be alive after you die? Yes. So then your consciousness will be followed by one of those consciousnesses, because those will be the only experiences that will be going on at that point in time.
You won’t know.. 😂 I’m kidding I’ll be pissed too. All this crap for nothing?!
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Even is one believes in the Eternal Oblivion Theory, it never hurts to live a moral life. First off, you (hopefully), do no injury to others. Second, if there IS an afterlife, you've hedged your bet - if not, you'll never know it anyway. And third, living a moral life has its own rewards. mho.
Imagine going to Heaven and there's none of your friends 😉
One doesn't contradict the other. I can live a "moral" life and also believe nothing happens afterwards.
Great comment. I believe that too
There is no way anyone can comprehend let alone imagine eternal oblivion cause if I am not mistaken, none existence in the absolute sense is not something anyone can or would be fimiliar since all we know is existence. Now the argument that what follows post physical death is what was pre-birth but there is not a compelling argument to why that make sense. Since we live in a time constraint existence, what would an end be consists of! He also said in the video that consciousness can not exist without a physical brain yet nobody in science can explain how the brain explains consciouness cause the brain at best only explains what consciousness does, how it qurrallates with the brain but it does not tell us why and what is the sensation of seeing red let us say so this guy is really beating a dead horse.
None of the replies invalidates my original argument. If there IS an afterlife, one has hedged their bet. If there IS NO afterlife, one has lived a just and moral life, hurting as few others as possible, and along the way, learned a form of moral responsibility. As Data was instructing Loal, he said that "the reward is in the journey." One can agree or disagree, but perhaps the idea is to cause the least amout of physical/paychological harm as possible to others.
The only people who know for certain what happens are those who have actually died. And they ain't talkin' to us.
They’re being real quite, they obviously have something to hide smh.
@@jonathantaman7566 (Gasp) I never thought of that!
What COULD they be hiding...?
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What about the people who were revived?
@@linkfromzelda1002 I don’t know, they also aren’t telling us shit. I wouldn’t trust ‘em, they’re probably hiding something too
@@jonathantaman7566 Nice Misaka pfp.
13.7 billion years of non-existence.
80 or so years of existence.
An eternity of non-existence.
Kinda puts everything in perspeçtive...
Space and time never had a beginning
It does put everything into perspective, but think of it like this….
13.7 billion years of non-existence…..
…..then all of a sudden - you existed for 80 or so years
Then you die and stop existing. But who’s to say you won’t just pop into existence again.
The non-existence before you were born is the same as the non-existence after you die.
@@Curvyblackbeauty where do you get that claim from?
@@stimpy_thecat there's start to time
@@plaherne79 I too like to think of it that way
If you go naturally, I believe you slip into a deep sleep that’s got very lucid dreams. Depending on what your lucid dream is is entirely down to the individual.
Your brain will eventually decay but up until that point you won’t necessarily have a timeline.
To you it may last for eternity but in reality the decay may be only a few hours or days.
Anything is possible, but if there is nothing after, then life is pointless. And we have evolved to an unnecessary level of consciousness.
Is that really a bad thing though? Lack of a purpose gives us freedom. “You will never live if you are looking for the meaning of life” - Albert Camus, follows the philosophy of Absurdism.
If life is pointless what makes it unneccessary? to be unnecessary it would first need a point.
@@mikelopez6928 by unnecessary like the scrotum consciousness with the the ability ti have existenial feelings is a glitch in the grand scheme of things
Have no fear, because Eternal Oblivion is 100% unprovable, you can't prove Non existence exists. Thats like saying "its slippery when dry", Or at a restaurant, ordering a frozen water and melted ice, or ordering French fries without potatoes.
Basically it suggests that existence was just some random accident and every thing within this existence is also a random accident.
Really? So if you consider the total amount of people that have lived and died on this planet, that's an awful amount of random complex accidents happening on just one planet, wouldn't you agree? Everything we've achieved, photographing a black hole, being able to see light that's 13 billion years old (CMB or Cosmic Microwave Background) We've been able to observe far away Nutron Stars in visible light, we've sent probes to the boundaries of our solar system, even being able to study Voids and Supervoids.
In fact Voids and Supervoids (known also as Intergalactic space) are the closest thing to an Oblivion as possible. When you consider that there's about 10 trillion trillion atoms per cubic meter, here on earth, guess how many atoms are in these voids? About 10 atoms per cubic meter of space,
Human accomplishments like mapping the human Genome, DNA genetic sequences, Mathematics, gravity, subatomic particles, Electromagnetism, Plasma, languages, are all just random accidental occurrences, meaning essentially it's a contradiction of existence. I didn't know being Emo was a universal constant.
And for those people who try and describe Oblivion 🤦♂️ please shut the hell up, because that's just beyond grasping for straws, because I'm going to demand to see postcards since you think you can describe something undescribable.
Also this is clear proof that the only Nothingness that exists is within these people's heads. They seem to be very unaware how hypocritical their ideology is. They're critical towards others who have faith in whatever higher power they choose to believe in, despite the lack of scientific evidence. Yet they accept Eternal Oblivion as fact despite the lack of scientific evidence. How is that any different then having faith in something?
Science tries describing Oblivion as a dreamless sleep, really? And yet Science has yet to explain what dreams even are, what their purpose is and what mechanisms in the brain cause them, oh wait i take that back, dreams probably just randomly manifested out of Nothingness. I remember Hawking years ago said "there's no afterlife for broken down computers" with all do respect that's a nonsenical statement, because if you want to go with the "our brains are like a computer" I'm no computer expert but what is required for a computer to function? Energy! and in order to interact with a computer you need software correct? But regardless of what state the computer is in, but the Software must of come from somewhere though, the computer didn't just create the software itself out of nothing did it? Take Nurons as an example, in order for them to function they send electrochemical signals (energy) throughout the body. If you remove all energetic activity from the brain, what do you think is going to happen to the brain? Basically it becomes an inactive, nonfunctional lump of matter that has the consistency of Tofu, in those terms think of the brain as the computer and Consciousness as the software, a broken cpu doesn't necessarily mean the software and information thats stored in its memory is permanently lost. So ok yeah there's no afterlife for broken down computers but the software still exists. So yeah even if the brain dies, the Energy and Quantum information that makes you....you, remains thanks to the laws of physics.
@@DarkSektori Hi, so that means there's a possibility of life after death? Death is sometimes compared to the situation or period of time when not being born.
I just wish this complexity of life had a longer future and all of the work we do in this life to build relationships didn't go to nothing. But it seems perfectly reasonable. Just sad in my mind because we have this incredibly strong desire to continue yet we have no control over that or ability to change it. Bummer.
Its hard for me to think it is all just for nothing. That seems so pointless to me.
@@melaniefeltsfagan1227 Right!!?! If that's the case I am gonna be really upset :)
@@melaniefeltsfagan1227 Your right, it technically is pointless to do things in life if your gonna stop existing one day. But it is also pointless to not do anything in life. Also, the complete nothingness after death is much much better than eternal life after death. Imagine how long of a time that would be. Since that life after death is infinite, eventually, literally everything that can happen will happen. At that point, life would be pointless.
Yea.. all that hard work, relationships, achievements, memories. All of that gone:/ I wish there was more to life. The best thing to do is to live life to the fullest
Not really, with all the things to learn that there is in this world, a 10,000 years of living seems like a more reasonable amount.
I believe it is the idea of dying that we fear, not death itself, and the only reason we fear death is that we (the living) know it hurts to lose a loved one, but death itself does not hurt the one who has died.
It's the fear of nonexistance...
@@kofi3124
You’d have to first presuppose that death=nonexistence. The theory discussed in this video is a possibility but is not proven by any means. There are potential scientific and philosophical objections to it.
@@RealMonzer it is the most scientific and logical hypothesis we have, much more than an eternal paradise.
@@DendrocnideMoroidesIt’s really not because it doesn’t matter how much “logic” and “science” we have, we have no idea what the truth will be until we die.
@@jiro1281 See this hypothisis is the most sensible one for me, it could be wrong of course but I personally think compared to heaven or rebirth or whatever this is far more likely.
Great now I have existential crisis. Kill meeeeee... actually don’t. Don’t kill me. 😐
I can imagine such an existential dread would be one of the many motives that could drive the human race to seek immortality.
😂😂
I wouldn't want u to leave that beautiful dog all on his or her own!
Jesus saves
@@ariahhumphreys really? Name one attack or rape or war that your magic man has stopped!
I would like to see an advanced mathematician take a look at this from a probabilistic stand point. Like, it's currently accepted that if the universe undergoes heat death, that the same expansion driving it will eventually give rise to another big bang, even if it takes an insanely long time. How long would it take before a new creature is born that possesses your mind? You may not remember much, if anything, about your prior existence, but it will still be your mind, your dead self "waking up" in a new body. How do we know this hasn't happened?
gotta die to find out
@@halfpaia we still won't find out as in our new life we won't remember anything about the previous life
@@sully9836 true
@@sully9836 thats kinda conforting to think about
I was one of those duck billed dinosaurs 🦖 back in the day.
We were nothing. The universe came to be. We became something and became nothing. The universe died and another universe took its place. We become something and nothing again. 🔄
This also isn’t technically true. We were nothing before, we were all in the singularity at the beginning of the universe, even if just energy, we were there, just not made until now.
@@TONYROCKZ818 so, it's like sleeping forever? It's Just scary to think of that
@@brunamartinspuxasacodavitoria No even when you’re sleeping you’re still semi aware, if it ends up just being nothing there’s nothing to worry about because you were aware before you were born and that’s how it’ll be after. No black no white no noise just non existence, no chaos no peace
NO we were always stardust being magnificence and we are natures highest primate perhaps it would be fair to say we are the inheritors of the star's and the minds of nature
this does not make any sense
No one knows what happens after death. Anyone who says they do is a liar. Just enjoy the life you have now while your here.
What is your dream to do before end of life?
Become rich? Travel? Become the next CEO?
it's just a theory, relax
Wanna grab a ouija board and ask?
Probably get study on mediumship and astral projection.
Idk man, this whole existing thing only started when our brains started so logically it will end when our brains end
One question though. For a said amount of time you did not exist, and then you were born. Through nothingness a consciousness arose. A consciousness that experiences itself and the world in "first person". How IMpossible it is for it to not happen again? What if the situation before you were born was the situation after an another consciousness died?
What about the change in population?
@@sargiusmarak3083 The population changes every millisecond.
Because the theory represents how your entire consciousness is from your own brain, which then. when your brain dies, your consciousness dies with it
@@isplash5148 What Makes You Think That ONLY YOUR Brain Produces Conciousness?
@@isplash5148
But if the conditions required for our consciousness arose from nothing, it’s not unreasonable to suggest those conditions may arise again.
While we are here alive on Earth, Try to live life the best we can. What ever happens after death, we will be the only one to see what becomes of us when that time comes. If there is any afterlife, we shall then move on from there. If there is nothing-ness after death, then that is it. Hopefully only our memories from others will persist about our life in knowing what we were and hope we contributed to make others life's happy and successful. So live every day the best you can.
Essentially Camus. Love it
@@mikeymorrison272 Whatever you say if you think this is Absurd. You will find out when you die if there is an such a thing as an afterlife or nothing.
@dathyr1 what if we all been in the same reality, and been dying before
We are born at some point, then lose consciousness only to repeat everything again, we'll never know
Great comment that anyone, whether religious or not SHOULD be able to agree with. If you're someone of a certain religion, you may have to be "good", or act a certain way, do certain things in your life. So do them. Live your best life, the only one you can be sure you have. Live your best.
To be honest memories dont give me any comfort and in a few generations even those memories will die out.
This nothingness gives me some inner peace. A peace of mind born from the thought that it's not needed to strive very hard in life to achieve anything because in the end you'll lose it all anyway, including yourself.
Just live if you want too, or end it yourself when you're done living. After all, what does it really matter?
Woaw That's Cool, Live with Good Positive Attitude & Die with Positive Habit too, Beginning & Ending, Never Last Ending Journey!!! 😇😇😇
Imagine you and another conscious being are the only two beings in the entire universe. There's only yours and its conscious experiences.
Then you cease to exist.
The only experience that could follow your end is the (other) conscious experience that didn't cease to exist.
@@naturalisted1714 And what do you mean by that?
@@Leto85 Will sentient beings be alive after you die? Yes. So then your consciousness will be followed by one of those consciousnesses, because those will be the only experiences that will be going on at that point in time.
I absolutely think exactly the same. While others are affraid that nothingness will come I see it as something inevitable anyways. So whatever you do you will always end there soon or later and nothing will matter for you when you die.
I'm sorry but this is the most depressing prospect to ponder when it comes to the after life
Well, what if it is reality? That's what I think, because it is the most logical. It's like a light switch. It is on (you're alive), and it's off (you're dead). So simple to me.
@@PoeLemic It is simple for the body. It just ceases to be. Consciousness however is a completely different story. We still don't know what it is. There are many competing theories swirling around about it. Since I'm a spiritual person though, I have faith that it goes to an afterlife.
@@winterking2510 WK, I'm glad that you can hope on that. I used to be religious, and I really believed growing up. I had that same belief, but as the years have passed and I've learned more, I don't think anything exists after this. So, I hope that I am wrong and that you are right. If so, meet me on the Other Side, and let's have a conversation about how dumb I was. Okay? Promise to look me up, if I'm in the same place as you are ... [he he he]
@@poelemic3642 Eternity is just too immense to only hold one little human life for us. I look forward to talking to you on the other side. Live long and prosper!
while I'm still grappling with the uncomfortable prospect of an oblivion, there is a beauty in being laid to peace - true peace, after death
I've thought for years about how the fact that I have consciousness now, at this moment, means that oblivion of death cannot exist. Perhaps our consciousness is like a clock, forever going in one direction, but going over the same numbers (in structure alone) eternally. Maybe we live this live once but our consciousness is aware at different times in that lifetime? Like Towelie, I have no idea what's going on...
Except you weren't conscious before life. Death is simply returning us to the default state = nothing.
@@abloogywoogywoo “nothing” isn’t a state. The “self” just ceases to be, and existence continues
@@abloogywoogywoo
You’re presupposing that the state of death is the same as the state before birth. There is no hard evidence that these two states are identical.
Before birth we are not conscious. After the sufficient conditions for consciousness are met, we are conscious. We do not currently know what the sufficient conditions for consciousness are, or what consciousness even is. Therefore, we cannot say for certain that death removes the conditions for consciousness. Even if we assume that death does remove the conditions for consciousness, we cannot say for certain that we will not regain consciousness after death if the conditions for consciousness return.
@@swerzye4472 "the existence continues" what does that even mean bro? Speak English.
@@RealMonzer stop mystifying everything - your consciousness is BIOLOGICAL. It is depend upon and is a byproduct of the mind. When the mind dies, your consciousness ceases to exist. It is in the same state as it was before you were born = nonexistence. This isn't hard to understand. You want to buy a product and still argue you still have your money with which to purchase. You can't have your cake and eat it.
It's scary and comforting at the same time
Nah just scary
@@kaizarkthetitan0 no just comforting
@@kaizarkthetitan0 there is no heaven or hell once we die we will just leave this world
@@aver3469 nice opinion
"Try to imagine how does it feel like to go to sleep and never wake up, now try to imagine what was it like to wake up after never been to sleep"
~Alan Watts~
I didn’t finish the video while writing this but I just wanted to say something. I’ve heard some scholars say they don’t fear oblivion because then they would know peace. Except I feel like that goes against the concept of oblivion because you wouldn’t KNOW peace. Honestly the idea of nothingness terrifies me every day. Is just I die then suddenly the heat death of the universe happens? My memories, my experience, all things I loved and cared for, I would have no awareness of it. Truly, Nothingness scares me
Me too
@@danomyte67 You don't care
The thought of eternal nothingness can be terrifying and depressing to the conscious mind but that's only because we are alive and aware. Death is timeless and unconsciousness
So in truth, people fear life, not death. Life brings endless chaos, unlimited stress and misery. Death brings peace unending.
@@abloogywoogywoo Death is neither peace nor chaos.
Is nothing.
@@leonardogabrieltrevinoloba2377 I don't mean peace as in an absence of war, content, or happiness. I mean true peace = nothing. For someone who has ADHD and their brain feels like its always on fire, it literally won't switch off even when sleeping and even the dreams are as stressful as the waking world, Death, i.e. a dreamless sleep without end, is peace.
Assuming that Life is just accidental and incidental, why does the Universe exist as a construct?
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Poignant question. Maybe we are in the brain of a being that keeps dying and reincarnating.
@@agnesstrzykowska4300 then how does it produce conscious beings?
Don't assume
Its dark materia/dark energy that cannot be created its just in a loupe so When the universe dies it Will create a new one in time.
For people here who need something to reconcile with possibility of eternal annihilation of awareness.
I think it's important to recognize the place you are in. Despite there being originally, completely nothing. Somehow, something came into existence. The grass outside your window, the fabrics of your blanket, even you, a conscious, aware being, came from that impossibility.
A lot of people talk about the eternal stillness of our universe, the heat death of everything. But personally to me it's ignorance.
We exist in a place that shouldn't even be possible, atoms can't just have always existed. They had to be created. But how? From nothing? That defies everything. And yet, so it is.
There is so much beyond our observable universe. There is a brink humans can never explore past as things are just moving to fast away from us.
You are already living in eternity. People can fling things around like odds, possibilities. Say the conditions for you existing again are point zero quadrillion one to the quadrillionith power. It is meaningless. If you pull the lever on casino slots long enough, eventually you will hit the jackpot. It's but a matter of time.
I don't like speaking in definites, but you live in a place that shouldn't even be possible, but yet here you are.
I'm terrified of eternal unawareness, but I try to take solace in the knowledge that anything is possible. Just because to me this is my one and only life, who's to say I haven't opened my eyes in a billion different lives already?
Enjoy this life for what it is, it's very easy to be scared of the unknown. But it's ok, we live in a space of endless possibility.
im still fucking terrified and sad at the same time that all of this will be for nothing.. if i can't even fkn remember it. then whats the point
life is a gift. but at the same time. a fkn curse
@@Tater4200 I think that's up to you. I think eventually we all get complacent about life. Infinite life, we'd all want to restart it and go from scratch. Maybe we're all meaninglessly entertaining ourselves. But in my eyes, we all contain a special gift nothing else can contain.
Meaning.
Everything is meaningless. But the living find a point every day. Eating food, having children to continue a species, finding and building shelter, safety.
And then there's higher levels of meaning. The emotions we conjure up in story, culture, music. Spreading and sharing ideas. Invoking imagination and creation. Conveying our experience. Sharing memories and bonds with one another.
It's all pointless.
However, you deny that pointlessness, your existence denies the reality of everything.
Because unlike it. You can do something it cannot. You make a reason to be alive. You create your own meaning for this meaningless place.
By existing, every moment, you are doing something so utterly out of turn from how this place functions without you. By having wants, needs, desires.
There may be no grand meaning or point. But your point, your meaning and goal for this life, is everything.
Whatever your goal and passion for living is. Reach out to it and take ahold of it for all it's worth. Because it's of my opinion, your meaning for life, your life. Is everything.
You are the meaning. You are what makes existence beautiful.
I understand how easy it is to fall into that despair of grand futility.
But I think it's important to change perspective, and see life, your life, from a new angle.
@@Tater4200 indeed
Yes indeed
Late reply but I think I know the answer. The reason why there is something is because nothing... can't exist or happen. Meaning that the so called "eternal" oblivion would be a 0% possibility (unless it's actually something which it isn't), of course, we don't know what happens after death, but I think that sticking with your beliefs would be what would happen after your death. Personally I believe in heaven
1. This channel is awesome.
2. If nothing happens after death, we wouldn't know it. So it wouldn't be bad at all.
The strange thing is that the concept of 'not knowing' about something requires an active brain. Thus, it doesn't make sense to talk about that if we're considering a dead brain (dead person).
Exactly. Crying, funerals, and pretty afterlife stories are for the living, not for the dead.
"When we are here, death is not. When death is here, we are not."
-Epicurus
@@User-jr7vf I like this!!!
Not knowing is what hurts most. Knowing that I will not ever be able to know is painful. It is a daily torture.
I think in some kinda mysterious way, we are all connected to the same consciousness. It's an illusion that we experience individual consciousness. Therefore, no one ever really dies. Why is there something rather than nothing? The universe exists, there is no such thing as nothing.
Do we create a new consciousness or recreate a consciousness (just like DNA replication) from our moms during birth?
Are there -
two states of existence, namely alive and dead,
and two switches to swipe over and over between these states - namely birth and death?
Are we humans the only creature who think about some stuff(?) after the death?
@@newchannelverygood162 as we know consciousness can change they behaviour of electrons so our consciousness is bigger than this reality 😎
Yes!!! My dad taught me this, our energy never dies, we will move on to another life, so there is nothing to be afraid of! Because there’s no nothing! What’s nothing? You can’t experience nothing because nothing can’t exist when there has to be something. You will start a new life, you will never be “nothing”, is what I try to help myself.
“Death is nothing to us. When we exist, death is not; and when death exists, we are not. All sensation and consciousness ends with death and therefore in death there is neither pleasure nor pain. The fear of death arises from the belief that in death, there is awareness.” ― Epicurus
"After your death you will be what you were before your birth." ― Arthur Schopenhauer
"There is nothing after death, and death itself is nothing." ― Seneca the Younger
When you really think about it and how the world, life, and the universe works it makes the most sense. I think we all know deep down that there is no getting out of this so we invented ideas and beliefs to comfort the harsh reality of our own mortality.
You are a disgusting furry but what you said is true
Please dom't say that
Eternal oblivion is also a belief
Just sharing my ideas on this... I'm an atheist. I have been suffering with a bad depression for over 11 years, and I have agonia when thinking about death since I was a little child (I have memories of fearing eternal oblivion since I was 2 years old, my first memories that I can still remember are about this fear).
Due to my depression, I often desire death but at the same time I fear it. I would prefer to have something instead of nothing after death. I have not existed for more than 13 billion years. The thought of not existing FOREVER is terrifiying. Eternal Oblivion just nullifies you. There is no you to feel anything, or even to have the awareness that you existed and died... it sucks. It hurts me terribly. If I could I would believe in spirituality even if it is bullshit because it would be more comfortable for my mental health but i can't just force myself to believe in divine beings and afterlife. If I could force myself I would.
“The heavens declare the glory of God; And the firmament sheweth his handywork.”
Psalm 19:1 KJV
“For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope.”
Romans 15:4 KJV
“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”
John 3:16 KJV
“that if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.”
Romans 10:9-12 KJV
I would advice you to look in to Christianity. At least you’ll have a hope for the afterlife .
“Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.”
Hebrews 11:1, 3 KJV
“Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.”
John 20:29 KJV
Have a good day bro
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@@gabrieljr3089 I know pretty well about christianity. I've read the Bible many times. And Christianity is not agreeable or likeable, simple as that. Even the Islam is easier to believe than christianity...but as both religions come from the same root, both are anti-cientific.
I don't want to feel comfortable based on lies. I'm not looking for comfort.
@@yuanshikai8029 o próprio HAHAHA, quem és tu?
If you go to nothing you won't know it. All cultures historical art and/or writings illustrate a belief in some sort of life beyond our physical existence. I think this is reason enough to give the concept of the afterlife careful consideration.
In my view, it is wishful thinking.
People just don't want to die...
Since I do nothing while I'm alive, it's pretty fair to expect nothing after I'm dead
it’s the fact we literally didn’t exist that always makes me feel the wonder. not that i was in a huge sleep of nothing WAITING to exist for billions of years, but that my existence was the chance of a single sperm. It’s very interesting to think about before rather than after. If “my sperm” wasn’t the lucky one. Would I have ever became me? Would the other sperm be me? Beautiful thought.
Me too 😂
@@bradley6676 I think about this ALL the time also. By some lucky chance we were the one that made it. Strange to imagine
@@bradley6676 I have had the exact same thoughts about the chanses of, let's play with the thought that sperm nr 7 made it before me, would that have been a completely different man? Logic says yes, but it's a mind bending thought experiment. Mental gymnastics. I don't believe in souls, spirits or gods or anything of that nature, but would any of that soup of sperms have been me?
@@melissamarie6943 very. Would the other sperm have been the same as me but a different me? Would my "me" or personality be completely non existing? 🤔
I don’t really fear what’s at the end I’m just anxious about how I’m going to die. I really don’t want a MK fatality death lol
Either we become liberated spirit beings that can transcend time and space with friends and family for eternity (or until reincarnation) OR we have a deep dreamless sleep. I’ll take it
A lot of times when I think of the possibilities of things in the universe I think, why would the universe do that because the natural state of everything is nothing, and there shouldn’t have been anything able to come out of that nothing, but yet here we are, something, and this gift of life alone is the only proof, and hope of something that keeps me going
If life is an accident then so be it.
Oblivion is one of my biggest fears, it terrifies me.
Same here!! I hope there’s something after death
Why though? It would be peaceful theoretically
My theory is: Consciousness is not a part of our body; it's just an energy that works with our brain and body to experience life. When our brain and body no longer function, our consciousness continues to another life, like it will never end.
Honestly the human brain can't process what happens when we die so... Nobody really knows and tbh most people's idea for after life is just to make them feel better
@@TheSpiritualSaiyan But here's the catch. While it's true that we don't know, there can't be nothing. What eternal oblivion theorists lack is that nothing can't spring something, and therefore it's impossible to happen, even science says this "Energy can't be created nor destroyed" and a famous philosophical quote from a famous philosopher "nothing comes from nothing". If "eternal" oblivion is true, then it wouldn't even be eternal because we exist, not to mention it wouldn't even last at all since we will continue to exist via another universe, a new universe, the afterlife, among other things. Reincarnation is far more probable than eternal oblivion because eternal oblivion implies that something came from nothing which is false
To another what? The brain holds the consciousness itself, without a brain you won't be able to think anymore
Just like what you stated here.
@@Libertyenvy It's just my theory. A brain is a device that receives frequency. Everything in the universe is made of energy.
Saying theres Nothing after death is for people with no moral compass and do not want to take accountability for there lives. I hate to break it too some people but ive been going to sleep and waking up for eternity in this life , past lives and future lives , not just this realm but many realms ! My energy and consciouness like yours doesnt stop ! When my vessel is done it will merge with God consciouness and the process will restart again when i find another vessel ! YOU WILL EXPERIENCE EVERYTHING AND ANYTHING YOU WANT ! THIS IS THE BEAUTY OF ETERNAL CREATIONS ❤❤
If this theory is true then there will be no death at all almost every creature have to pass through the death circle and I'm strongly agreed with afterlife
Almost?
You missed the fact that all of science has failed to explain (phenomenal) consciousness. How can you even hypothesize what happens if we can’t even define consciousness.
Tryye
@@kareemdurrant139 it’s a saying that math can’t explain consciousness, and consciousness can’t explain math. These are two aspects of our universe that will never make sense.
If we existed from nothing then who can say that we won't exist again from nothing? If it happened once it could happen again
We did not exist from nothing your brain generated your consciousness
@@BrendanOwinoproof that the brain generates consciousness?
@@BrendanOwinobecause currently there is none
@@logiciskey3886 consciousness cannot survive without a brain
@@BrendanOwino and where’s your proof because you’re only making a claim based off what you believe with absolutely no evidence once so ever
Ive been tormented by this theory for the past 20+ years and needless to say i have been fighting depression for nearly as long. Im 28 and have had multiple surgeries / transplants in my life since a kid so it weighs on my mind heavy and to this day i take meds to help me in day 2 day life cus at times if i stop for a moment and let my mind go to this theory it freakin hurts internally and knowing it ive grown distant from every one that i love and consider if bringing a Child into the world and possibly to the same realization is worth it.
Bothering yourself over a fact that you can’t change will only lessen your human experience. For me, eternal unconscious is the worst thing. But worrying yourself will only harm your short time on earth
Jesus saves
Have you research tanatophobia disorder. You shold look it up. The are medications for it. See a doctor if you think it applies to you.
You currently exist what’s not to say you repeatedly do?
Nomad; Consider the teachings of Advaita Vedanta.
I can see this happing but at the same time how can someone describe young kids remembering their “past life” to the point they know where things were and people find these things after the kid described it?
Yeah I’ve heard and read of academic journal articles of this. It kind of gives me hope for the existence of reincarnation. But even if nothing happens after death, I’m okay with it because if it’s meant to be then it will be.
It’s called imagination kids have a lot of it
@@shodan2002 thats a very blunt answer, if you actually looked at the research , its very interesting. Scientists dont take story's as evidence. they do the leg work to prove the validity etc. It goes beyond what a kid can imagine.
Experiencing nothing is why I fear death 😭
When you're unconscious you know nothing about it, when you are dead you'll know even less 😒
A.Pessimist ¬2021
exactly what i think being dead is
when ur dead u dont exist. so its like being asleep and not dreaming except it lasts forever. u know nothing cuz u are nothing.
@@elliast that's the most horrible thing to think about in life
@@deniahmetaj nah tbh its really jus calming and relieving to think death would probably be like that. i’d rather not exist forever than be in heaven bored for eternity or be in hell suffering for eternity. i’d go for reincarnation too btw but mostly oblivion
@@elliast no it's more depressing. Imagine so much will be going in this world but you would not be able to experience it. A eternal sleep is fells more scary than hell
i hope reincarnation is the truth, but i’d like to know what happens after you reincarnate so many times, where do you go then
Well. Reincarnation would feel like oblivion for the observer. It is pretty clear that we don't remember our past lives. Therefore we as a being are objectively gone after death
Imagine you and another conscious being are the only two beings in the entire universe. There's only yours and its conscious experiences.
Then you cease to exist.
The only experience that could follow your end is the (other) conscious experience that didn't cease to exist.
We can’t prove anything but all I know is that when I sleep I dream about something all the time yet I remember none of them when I wake up.
Human Got Reincarnation after Dead, Just like in Animation from Pixar "Soul" Visit Another Dimension, Erase the Memory, Karma Calculation, if He/She Did a lot Positive things then will Send into Good Place, Another Human who did a lot Negative things will Send into Bad Dimension. Never Last Ending Life 😇😇😇
And where would we go after the universe dies?
This makes me appreciate life more instead of wanting to die. You were given an opportunity to live in this world, don’t waste it. The only thing that’ll be left of us is memories once we’re gone.
Please stop with this unoriginal bullshit
I see life as a trial more than an opportunity
It is a bit strange that we should pretend to know what nothingness might be like, and all of the amusing references to "when I was nothing" or "when I did not exist" only seem to emphasize the paradox, since it is NOT something we can possibly know or experience. When we are in deep dreamless sleep, there is still alot going on and we are certainly still there. It seems that the wish for non-existence is no different than hoping for eternal life, both are equally incomprehensible to us and therefore one need not be troubled by either.
This is my condensed version of "Death Nothingness and Subjectivity" ... Imagine, hypothetically, that you and another conscious being are the only two beings in the entire universe. There's only yours and its conscious experiences.
Then you cease to exist.
The only experience that could follow your end is the (other) conscious experience that didn't cease to exist.
Or I can put it like this:
Will sentient beings be alive after you die? Yes. So then your consciousness will be followed by one of those consciousnesses, because those will be the only experiences that will be going on (at that point in time).
A lot of you are saying we came from nothing but if you can't remember how do you know? How do you know that you weren't a spiritual consciousness in a different dimension and when you are born into this dimension your past reference is erased and when you die it starts all over again possibly.
I think the some people take nothingness theory as an fact even though they don't know too.
I used to be scared of the "void" that there is nothing after death, that you just end. Now it sounds almost conforting. Like sleeping and never waking up.
Exactly how I feel.
When one is tired, she wants to sleep. And when you sleep, nothingness doesn't scare you.
But.. If we don't exist anymore.. Then what's the point? If we all just forget it in the end :(
So if it was remembered there would be a point?
@LourençoJácomeSchwartz.2003 idk man, I posted this 2 years ago when I was having a crisis
This is comforting. We are a blip on an eternal line...if no awareness before life or after... did we really ever exist? If so, what really is this reality? Is it real? Or maybe a realm of the universe experiencing itself. Allan Watts said...without biological eyes... the universe can't see itself...
Your questions are very very very difficult, the only answere is, God, a creator, have created us for a reason, for a reward, either paradise, or hellfire for wrongdoers, im so sure that we are gonna be held accountable for everything we do in life, better believe in one and only God that nobody has seen yet, than dying and risking your eternal life,
@@aerokasyeal4840 Yeah no hence why it's called faith because that's all you have is but a hope its real...
yea right. you continue to worship your tyrant God... leave me out of it unless you prove hes good@@aerokasyeal4840
Part 1. During August of 1973, I was pronounced DEAD On Arrival, at a Medical centre, and at least half an hour passed by, and then my heart started to beat again, without medical assistance... During the time I was reported to be dead, I, that is "LIFE My Real Self", felt very much alive, but not in this universe, nor did I have a human body or any other type of body. I felt NO Condemnation or judgement, but only a depth of LOVE far beyond human understanding... I saw No relatives, family or friends, and no Form, except for the Presence of pure white LIGHT.
The grace of god.
take ketamine, buddy, you will see it's just abnormal activity of your brain
ALLAHU AKBAR brother.
I can’t believe that theory or I don’t want to.
I know most people don’t believe in the afterlife but I can’t deny the things I have experienced in my life that are completely contrary to this oblivion theory. When you see a loved one that has passed, right in front of you, it’s hard to NOT believe in the afterlife.
I don’t know the answer nor does anyone else but I choose to believe.
✌🏻🇺🇸
I get the opposite of peace from watching this. I feel like I'd rather blow my brains out now than live my life out with this nightmare staining every nice moment.
Whatever it is, it's scary, because it lasts for eternity. The only possibility that would not last forever (relative to the person) is reincarnation so long as memory is wiped after every death.
Doesn’t last for eternity. Death isn’t eternal. Mathematically speaking anyways. There are a finite amount of matter in the universe. Eventually all matter can and will be reconstructed I. The same exact way given enough time. Long time period between eventual re-emergence? Yeah probably so, but not eternal. Probability statistics and math play a part in those timescales. You much more likely to literally be reassembled given enough time as opposed to not existing after death for eternity. That means zero probability of your matter and atoms somehow randomly reorganizing. Which they could do given anything short of an infinite amount of time. Which eternity is. Would it seem like eternity? No, because the moment you died and the moment you became again you literally wouldn’t know if 2 seconds had passed, to you anyways. Anyone not dead would understand how long you’ve been gone.
The universe dies, new one gets born eventually, you get reborn as a new creature, you die, repeat the process that's how it works no one can change my mind
i’m just scared that i won’t be with my little brother. i don’t want to be away from him. if i’m with him, i’ll feel safer knowing i won’t lose him
I am actually not scared of oblivion or missing out. But what plagues my mind is that if there is no afterlife and ''judgement'', as shown in tv shows like The good place. People who made others suffer immensely, are just forgotten. All their crimes eventually turned into history and nothingness. Like those never existed. But they did ,and due to the butterfly effect even it impacts us. How can life end on such an open note a book with no conclusion. The bad guys live their best life, die and never suffer .
This is not fair. Life is not fair and that is hard to accept.
The world is a horrible place, living in your bubble and pretending these atrocities don't exist, that someone somewhere is calling for help to no avail. But lets put on a fake smile, cause life goes on, am i right fellows?
I can certainly understand why people WANT there to be a higher power in the world. I really do. But WANTING something does not necessarily make it TRUE.
😥😢😠😡😡😡 fucking life , fucking univers
good or bad are just our concepts when you die you wont know that you suffer or not that you had a good or bad life or that you died at birth or at 80 life is just a blip in between 2 eternities.
“Whatever happens,happens”
But how does nothing happen? :)
@@FurkanSavas The void exceeds the beginning and end, nothing can't happen, It just is that it is.
All well and good, but what happens beyond the Eternal Oblivion?
Could your consciousness easily be awoken again?
Space and time would "not" be irrelevant. You could be born again in trillions, and trillions of years
from the time of your death. In another universe perhaps?
But it could feel you just woke up from a one good nights, sleep?
There are so many things about the universe which we may never understand.
What we do know is. Information is not lost, and given enough time. Even against all odds "Life, and consciousness finds away!"
Could we be as eternal as the cosmos?
Perhaps we just need time to rest and regather ourselves before starting off on a fresh new life
I completely agree, thank you. This is LITERALLY way more scientifically plausible than the above hypothesis. The eternal oblivion theory is actually very lazy and illogical. It completely disconnects one from the actual universe and its rules ergo also the STATE OF BEING. So it really is just very narrowly thoughtout and tbh it is due to a kind of zynical, dogmatic nihilism.
Do you know the Theory by Donald Hoffman? Concious Realism?
Energy is dying in the cosmos, even space is stretching till everything is far apart and eventually dies
@@meatmachine449 In cosmic measurements, there's nothing to say giving enough time.
Another bang happens.
The holographic theory of consciousness is an intriguing challenge to the grey matter enthusiasts. A standing wave replica of the self could linger after the physical body but not indefinitely. It may need a third, superconducting stage to complete the transition.
whaaaaaat. Im tipsy and this blew my mind. kinda needed it. Thank you for this.
eternal oblivion cannot really be understool and its a headache to think about it, imagine when you go to sleep, you don't know "when" you slept, but then after you wakeup, you realize that you slept, and the time of sleeping (non consciousness) feels like a pause, if we project the same thing to death, there's no wakeup, so how will you know that you died/slept? how will you feel and how will you notice the eternal pause? trying to think about this really brings headache it seems like a consciousness dilemma
@@Srefined same but we re talking about sleep without the dreaming part, bcs while dreaming you are conscious
You would just never realize it.
I exist only here, only now. I don’t exist on a mountain top somewhere in Madagascar. I don’t exist in a crater on the moon. I don’t exist on the ocean floor, or in Oslo Norway. In a way, I am “dead” in those places. Yet, my non-existence in those places (and in a countless number of others) doesn’t bother me. Death is possibly something like that. It might even be argued that there is more terror to be found in life than there is in death. But there are Oreo cookies in life.
Whatever your hand finds to do, do it with your might; for there is no work or device or knowledge or wisdom in the grave where you are going. Ecclesiastes 9:10
Live your best life, get to know the creator that is the I Am that I Am.
From a scientific point of view, there is a very very very slim chance that all or most of the atoms that make up you now could be re-aligned some time after death to become another conscious living thing, but whilst it's not absolutely impossible, the chance of this happening before the universe dims completely is infinitesimally small and would require the universe and the matter within in it to be almost infinite in its size.
So it's basically impossible
I don't think consciousness has to do with the exact atoms that make up you as they are changing all the time as you breath and eat. Consciousness seems to be due to the way billions of neurons are arranged in your brain and the patterns they fire that correspond to each memory, thought, perception etc
@@neuralsoup but there isn’t any proof of that
@@awakenedhigherself9961 There are a lot of neuroscientists that think that based on the knowledge we've gathered about the brain already. We're discovering more and more how the brain is responsible for aspects of our consciousness, the hypothalamus for our memory, amygdala for fear etc (to oversimplify). When brains fire, with enough complexity, consciousness arises, a being that has a sense of self, due to loops upon loops of patterns and unfathomable complexity. Destroy a persons brain, and they are no longer conscious because the mechanism that is responsible for producing it is no longer working. If a person has a neurogenerative disease like Alzheimer's you can see the persons consciousness change, they are no longer the person they were as their brain is deteriorating and not firing as it used to. Anesthetic drugs cause brain circuits to change their oscillation patterns in particular ways, thereby preventing neurons in different brain regions from communicating with each other. The result is a loss of consciousness.
@@awakenedhigherself9961 yet
The comparison to the "pre-birth state" is, in my opinion, the one which works best when coming to talk about "What it will be like after we are dead". The fact is that, at least for what we know, we were never something before our birth, so we did not even care or were scared about dying just because...we never even lived.
So I guess it's something really human to be scared of dying because we partly know what it means to be nothing for an unspecified amount of time, but at the same time we fail to grasp it at its fullest meaning. Maybe just because of fear, maybe because we live our lives knowing we are not eternal.
Last time there was nothing it was followed by something.
Until religions and beliefs indoctrinated us about that life after death that made us anxious.
@@naturalisted1714 thank you
the only eternal thing is death anything else its not.
@@gilbertflorea1575energy and matter are eternal 😂
I always decide to just not to think about what happens but I always do and give myself an essential crisis anyway 🤦♀️
I don’t know if you guys believe god. But I hope you cope and have a great day!
Maybe the spirit (energy) will diverse around and the body will just decompose
Yes
But scientists also say that "nothing" is impossible. Where did the universe come from. Energy is not made or destroyed. It always there.
Eternal oblivion theory helped me get over my fear of death because I couldn't process how it would work. Trying to imagine how it would be to cease but I wouldn't know. Because I exist. But with being asleep with no dream or events I can't remember like my birth.
This is oddly comforting. It sure beats vacationing in hell. Makes more sense too.
I feel uncomfortable about being an enternal oblivion theorist myself, but it is probably okay to feel that way. I prefer my anxieties to be raw and complete and clear. Like all the other feelings
And not to suppress or bottle feelings up either. That does no good my friend, acknowledgement and understanding is key
This is why i don’t understand Gangs , War, Overdoses, Suicide, Beefs! Accidents! Why Do We Play with our life’s ? Why Make All Those memories Year after year day after day second by second just to die into nothingness or Whatever happens . We don’t know so no one has the Right to send someone into something we know nothing about realistically (Death)
The other thing I think about when contemplating eternal life is how awful it could be-even if you are doing the things you love, it would eventually become like torture. Eternity is a very long time, and if given the choice, I’d chose oblivion because it would go by much faster than eternal life
For me eternal life is not a tensionless state but rather the striving and struggling for some goal worthy of our time. It is not the discharge of tension at any cost, but the call of a potential meaning waiting to be fulfilled by ourself.
It's balance for me.
I agree.
Dude Heaven is LITERALLY almost whatever you want. God gives you the power to be in a new world where new goals that are literally impossible to imagine appear
@@UN1VERS3S I guess this makes sense. … Actually, the more I think about it , the more I really like this idea of eternity-cool! Thanks for sharing that
@@abdulnasirbushra6049 if that’s the way it turns out, great! Sign me up! I have nothing against God, I just really don’t love the idea of eternally doing anything, especially things that I love, because I’d soon hate them. And I love to find solutions to challenges, so we should be good! (As if it’s up to me to approve or not!☺️) Thanks for the comment!
I have always thought this is the most likely what happens to all of us. It might not be “poetic” or pleasant to think on, but it just seems the most likely.
"you appear once then you disappear"~ Alan Watts
The Neverending Story was about overcoming the deep depression and grief of the kid's mother's death - the "nothing" was the metaphorical mother-shaped absence in his life. Not that complicated, I figured it out when the movie came out. Then again, I've suffered from depression for my _entire_ life, which I can remember some of way, _way_ back. Most people don't have to start life with depression.
Great analysis! Never saw it like that.
I used to be scared of the idea of oblivion, but after hearing about hell's doctrine, I'm definitely more open to see nothing after I die.
It sounds healthier and fair.
True honestly.
Brings into question if this reality we see is only in our head as all our senses are signals to our brain and if there is no signal/no sense, essentially there is no 'world' and it whatever you do now would be as if you never did it at all.
People say but think of the ones you left behind, but why? None of you would exist from my pov once I am gone because you only exist based on interpretation of my mind. If I slipped into oblivion and it is suppose to be like before I was born then i wouldnt have ever remembered this life at all so in fact I am already dead. If I am already dead does that mean I can't die and that in fact this death is eternal and therefore this life I am living now is eternal?
Am I already dead?
I love the Unveiled channel. I watch their videos every night before I go to sleep. 🙂
What about the possibility of experiencing nothingness after death. That is not to say , the mind or consciousness ceases to exist; but that it does continue to exist, but being deprived of the five senses, it (the mind) experiences an infinite sea of nothingness forever. This I believe is the most terrifying prospect of what could happen after death, even worse than hell (because even in hell there is light and the company of others i.e., matter).
It’s better to cease to exist than hell existing
Imagine if we came to universe 2.1 where everyone lives for the second time yet they start to remember their previous life while growing up but we still die and then we go to the next and so on and so on forever.
But this theory seems more realistic and at some point I find feeling nothing peacefull but since we do not know what that means its also scary. I find it sad that I would not see my love ones yet again I wont exist to care about it.
In the end we live now and feel now so I just try to live my life as best as possible with good and bad days. After all everything could just be a illiusion and we wake up but we dont know and never will know in our lives so there is no point to find the answer which we wont get in life.
You are your loved ones. You’re every life in existence, which is infinite. You’re Hitler and the Jews who died in the concentration camps. Since everyone’s life is different it’s not so bad.
Believe in God most high, that has no son or partner, you gonna feel the relief, look at this existance, for sure there is God
If I remember right, Stephen Hawking once said that the hopes of an afterlife is just a way of fear of the darkness.
Trying to process this makes me think of existencial nihilism
But we come from darkness. Just bring your flashlight
Thats exactly what I think happens.
Imagine you and another conscious being are the only two beings in the entire universe. There's only yours and its conscious experiences.
Then you cease to exist.
The only experience that could follow your end is the (other) conscious experience that didn't cease to exist.
@@naturalisted1714 i had a stroke trying to understand this, butttttt it seems interesting. can you break down what you said please?
Once I had an alcohol coma and honestly, it was total blank, just dark and no sense of time. After it I kinda associate it to death itself. It must be similar. No pain, no understanding, just void. It’s a bit scary I admit, and I’d rather be reunited with my brother, but you never know, and I wasn’t actually dead, so... 🤷🏻♂️
Wrong, atoms and molecules create life. Our existance is just made out of atoms and molecules that have been organized by our parents
same things with anestesia its like a time travel you just disappear similar to dreams as well
@@lamondferry217 Dying isn't like anesthesia because anesthesia is working like a blockage to prevent the brain gaining messages in our body.
I was once unconscious for like a whole day and felt nothing, even woke up thinking it was still yesterday, so I guess Is something like that?