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"The British Army should be a projectile to be fired by the British Navy" Admiral Fisher. The navy always takes priority, its impressive that Britain still had an army as good as it was.
That is how it should be. Naval capacity in a war is built capability. You finish the war with what you started with minus your losses. Any ships you build during the war are usually laid down during the war. An army is manufactured capability, what you have at the end is what you built 6 months ago. If you need both a Navy and an Army your peace time spending has to be dominated by the Navy as in a long war, and Britain doesn’t do short war strategy, your army will be created by war time spending but your navy needs the equipment to last through a long war when the war starts.
Fun fact: you mentioned that French soldiers were more adept at foraging, and figuring things out in the field. That’s because most of the French generals were Napoleon trained, and self reliance In the field by the French was one of the hallmarks of the Napoleonic Wars
That was 40 years earlier... I find it hard to believe that 'most' of those generals served under Napoleon Bonaparte. Some maybe.. some may have been in their early 30's when fighting at Waterloo, but this means they were almost 80 yo at the time of the Crimean war
Fun fact: The French insistence on foraging meant they usually stripped an area bare of food for hundreds of thousands of men, burned people out of homes to get firewood and caused the local peasants to become guerillas who would happily tie french stragglers to trees and torture them to death. Foraging helped recruit entire Guerilla armies. The British won in spain because Wellington set up an organised supply train and banned foraging. One of the reason many of the best British armies won is becasue they had their supply train under control to bring along food, tents and ammunition. The problem is that many of the best capaigns are run by the Colonial armies, these men are combat hardened and understand the need for food. The Crimean campaign is run by the Home army, people who have been on parade duty, garrison duty and who are possibly better at politics and appearances than musketry. The supply situation isnt being run by the army, for political and financial reasons its being run by the Treasury so in some cases an officer has to write a letter that is put on a ship to go back to London, to be assessed, sent back to Crimea and then he is allowed to get his supplies from the warehouse. Its a ridiculous system thats casued by fifty years of peace and promotion and organisation being due to political empire building, budget cutting and theoretical soldiering. The Indian and African army guys were a lot more practical and competent.
@@voiceofraisin3778 Exactly. A lot of “foraging” throughout history is a polite way of saying “Stealing everything you can get your hands on from any nearby families and farms!”
Fact checking this claim, it appears to be bogus. Haven't found a single officer that fought in the Napoleonic wars. Here's a sample of 5 important ones I could find: Jacques Leroy de Saint arnaud - entered the army in 1817 Aimable pelissier - entered military service in 1815, first deployed in 1823 Patrice de MacMahon - entered the army in 1827 Francois certain de canrobert - entered military school in 1826, aged 17 Pierre Bosquet - entered military service in 1833 Not sure where you got your fun fact but I find it doubtful without sufficient citation
@@christianwawrzonek7599 "Napoleon trained" tends to just mean trained in the ways of napoleon, IE Foraging for food, self reliance in battle etc not actually trained by napoleon.
Hey Extra History, love the work that you do. I was wondering if you could do some new pieces on the Great Game between Great Britain and Russia, the 1st Anglo-Afghan War, the 1st Anglo-Sikh War, and the Sepoy Mutiny of 1857. The reason why is because I was reading the "Flashman Papers" which is the memoirs of Harry Paget Flashman and his cowardly adventures through 19th century history and events.
You guys should have brought up the female veteran of the Crimean war that died in 2004. The turtle Timothy, she served in the british navy during the war :)
Even into the First World War, the food and care for British soldiers appeared to have remained deficient because the officer class remained aristocratic. John Monash, being a civilian engineer and not a career soldier, came up with innovative ways to keep Australian troops on the Western Front well fed, in a way that other British officers had not prioritized.
In regards to the buying commissions it was expected that that person would contribute financially to outfitting the unit they bought command of, e.g. buying their men fresh Muskets/uniforms or upgrading their muskets to rifles, it helped reduce the cost of equipping the army though the practise would fade over time, mainly as you had less people buying commissions who could afford to then outfit 100/1000 men or buy hundreds of horses to equip a cavalry unit, but the practise went back to medieval times and was highly prevalent in for example the English Civil Wars. The practise only died out in Prussia and France just before the revolution for infantry but French revolutionary army cavalry commanders still bought their commissions while the practise persisted in Russia until 1864.
This video doesn't seem to have been added to the Chronological playlist, despite being released two months ago. You guys provide such an amazing resource. Could the playlist updates be more of a priority?
I can't wait for the Henry Ford series. He is one of those figures that I grew up with a nearly fictional "history" of him presented as fact throughout my education. When I first started learning the truth about him, I didn't really believe it because it seemed so outlandish.
I hope you go into Greco-buddhism. One of three defenders of the faith was a greek king. Afghanistan was an amzing melting pot of greek and buddhist art and how created how buddha is typically depicted today. We don't tend to think of pilgrammages of tens of thousands of greeks go to places like sri lanka or how syncretism created a blend of Vajra and herakles who becomes buddha's bodyguard. I really hope that makes it in. And the Yona ie greek monks who go to China were so influential as many were former soldiers bringing their combat skills there from greece and what they learned in india. Lots of great ideas from india flowed back to greece and to rome too.
Wellington was educated near my home town in Ireland and was mp for before the campaigns. There is still massive divide if he himself was irish or english. We shall never know.
I love me some lies. I didn't know there was a series of crisies. Yeah, winning a war is great for not changing and loosing is great for reform. And it's part of how Western warfare got to where it is. Something i found interesting about Ford and Disney was taht they strongly disliked the class system they grew up with, but also recrated it in their own companies.
The army was evolving it just came too late for them. Lower ranking officers I believe also had experience in prior small wars but the higher ups of course didn’t as is commonly known.
Look forward to these history Nuggets, It does not seem right that a history subject can be limited to a word count or episode count. You might be leaving out to much.
When talking about the Little Ice Age, I hope you gloss over modern global warming, cause I know the little ice age comes up by people saying AGW isn't real.
But please also mention the Medieval Warm Period (Viking Age), much warmer than today, when grain was farmed in Greenland. History and data are selectively edited/ignored on both sides of this issue.
@@erikjohnson9223 Nope. Looking at the planet as a whole, the Medieval Warm Period was not warmer than today. As a whole, the temperature of the Medieval Warm Period was around the same as the mid 20th century. Certainly the temperature distribution was different. The temperature average of the North Atlantic region was on par with the late 20th century. Some places were hotter, some places were cooler. One metric to assess which was hotter is sea level rise. Sea level rise in the Medieval Warm Period was not as fast as it is today.
coming up 'it starts with the life of the Buddha' here's hoping they mention that there are many buddhas and it is a vast misconception to call anybody THE buddha (also interesting: there's theories that buddhism was a reactionary movement against zoroastrian influence on hinduism... which may be gotten into but also seems a little esoteric so could be skipped over :P )
I wish these episodes whete not limited. Cuz they are great but never long enough. I am sure they are reasons. But him cutting out cool stories and partz cuz they take to long is sad. I am sure they have thete reasons
But for now, since 2014 Crimea is occupied by terrorist state russia, which will not last long. For the past 2 days there were quite a lot of explorations of the russian battle bases.
I suppose the 7 Years War is one of the last truly Great Wars. Because it’s one of the largest conflicts around the world, that didn’t involve a certain (average height) lieutenant, nor be powered by steam or modern technology. So in my head, we have The 7yrs War/The Great War, World War 0, World War 1, World War 2.
It is often forgotten thet 532 men of the French light cavalry - Chasseurs d'Afrique under the command of General d'Allonville, attacked the Fredouikine Heights to cover the retreat of the British Light Brigade and suppress the enfilading fire by the Russians...thus avoiding further casualties.
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Can you do next king Edvard 1 of England or Gustav vasa
Hey extra history can you do coloumbine
You guys should do a video on The Akkadian Empire.
"The British Army should be a projectile to be fired by the British Navy" Admiral Fisher. The navy always takes priority, its impressive that Britain still had an army as good as it was.
That is how it should be. Naval capacity in a war is built capability. You finish the war with what you started with minus your losses. Any ships you build during the war are usually laid down during the war. An army is manufactured capability, what you have at the end is what you built 6 months ago. If you need both a Navy and an Army your peace time spending has to be dominated by the Navy as in a long war, and Britain doesn’t do short war strategy, your army will be created by war time spending but your navy needs the equipment to last through a long war when the war starts.
Fun fact: you mentioned that French soldiers were more adept at foraging, and figuring things out in the field. That’s because most of the French generals were Napoleon trained, and self reliance In the field by the French was one of the hallmarks of the Napoleonic Wars
That was 40 years earlier... I find it hard to believe that 'most' of those generals served under Napoleon Bonaparte. Some maybe.. some may have been in their early 30's when fighting at Waterloo, but this means they were almost 80 yo at the time of the Crimean war
Fun fact: The French insistence on foraging meant they usually stripped an area bare of food for hundreds of thousands of men, burned people out of homes to get firewood and caused the local peasants to become guerillas who would happily tie french stragglers to trees and torture them to death.
Foraging helped recruit entire Guerilla armies.
The British won in spain because Wellington set up an organised supply train and banned foraging.
One of the reason many of the best British armies won is becasue they had their supply train under control to bring along food, tents and ammunition.
The problem is that many of the best capaigns are run by the Colonial armies, these men are combat hardened and understand the need for food.
The Crimean campaign is run by the Home army, people who have been on parade duty, garrison duty and who are possibly better at politics and appearances than musketry.
The supply situation isnt being run by the army, for political and financial reasons its being run by the Treasury so in some cases an officer has to write a letter that is put on a ship to go back to London, to be assessed, sent back to Crimea and then he is allowed to get his supplies from the warehouse.
Its a ridiculous system thats casued by fifty years of peace and promotion and organisation being due to political empire building, budget cutting and theoretical soldiering.
The Indian and African army guys were a lot more practical and competent.
@@voiceofraisin3778
Exactly. A lot of “foraging” throughout history is a polite way of saying
“Stealing everything you can get your hands on from any nearby families and farms!”
Fact checking this claim, it appears to be bogus. Haven't found a single officer that fought in the Napoleonic wars. Here's a sample of 5 important ones I could find:
Jacques Leroy de Saint arnaud - entered the army in 1817
Aimable pelissier - entered military service in 1815, first deployed in 1823
Patrice de MacMahon - entered the army in 1827
Francois certain de canrobert - entered military school in 1826, aged 17
Pierre Bosquet - entered military service in 1833
Not sure where you got your fun fact but I find it doubtful without sufficient citation
@@christianwawrzonek7599 "Napoleon trained" tends to just mean trained in the ways of napoleon, IE Foraging for food, self reliance in battle etc not actually trained by napoleon.
"it may be good to feed your army" thats something I wholeheartedly agree with
Exactly!
Hey Extra History, love the work that you do. I was wondering if you could do some new pieces on the Great Game between Great Britain and Russia, the 1st Anglo-Afghan War, the 1st Anglo-Sikh War, and the Sepoy Mutiny of 1857.
The reason why is because I was reading the "Flashman Papers" which is the memoirs of Harry Paget Flashman and his cowardly adventures through 19th century history and events.
You guys should have brought up the female veteran of the Crimean war that died in 2004. The turtle Timothy, she served in the british navy during the war :)
Even into the First World War, the food and care for British soldiers appeared to have remained deficient because the officer class remained aristocratic. John Monash, being a civilian engineer and not a career soldier, came up with innovative ways to keep Australian troops on the Western Front well fed, in a way that other British officers had not prioritized.
I will never get tired of the Act Raiser music sting. Ever. It's perfect.
In regards to the buying commissions it was expected that that person would contribute financially to outfitting the unit they bought command of, e.g. buying their men fresh Muskets/uniforms or upgrading their muskets to rifles, it helped reduce the cost of equipping the army though the practise would fade over time, mainly as you had less people buying commissions who could afford to then outfit 100/1000 men or buy hundreds of horses to equip a cavalry unit, but the practise went back to medieval times and was highly prevalent in for example the English Civil Wars. The practise only died out in Prussia and France just before the revolution for infantry but French revolutionary army cavalry commanders still bought their commissions while the practise persisted in Russia until 1864.
A French cavalry unit saves the remnant of the Britieh Light Brigade? Gee, I wonder how the Brits managed to forget that part of the battle?
The poem at the end of the last episode genuinely hit so good, chills. Great work
Can't tell you how much I've enjoyed this series, it's become my new favorite historical topic. World War 0 🤩
For modern wars Crimean war is WW0 but for scale and numer of fronts Seven Years War was WW0
@@FifingFossil I too watched this series.
I’ve also heard of the American Civil War and the Russo-Japanese War as “beta tests” for WWI
@@FifingFossil have you forgotten the war of the Austrian succession, or the war of the Spanish succession.
@@Emperor481 of course, my bad
This video doesn't seem to have been added to the Chronological playlist, despite being released two months ago. You guys provide such an amazing resource. Could the playlist updates be more of a priority?
I can't wait for the Henry Ford series. He is one of those figures that I grew up with a nearly fictional "history" of him presented as fact throughout my education. When I first started learning the truth about him, I didn't really believe it because it seemed so outlandish.
I LOVE these after series facts! Easily one of my favorite bits of your works guys! 🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤❤
I really loved the crimean war series Im so glad you talkt about it since it was really a giant battle against multiple powers.
I'm excited for the history of Buddhism! Should be a fascinating journey. I wonder if you'll talk about "Siddhartha" by Herman Hesse?
I hope you go into Greco-buddhism. One of three defenders of the faith was a greek king. Afghanistan was an amzing melting pot of greek and buddhist art and how created how buddha is typically depicted today. We don't tend to think of pilgrammages of tens of thousands of greeks go to places like sri lanka or how syncretism created a blend of Vajra and herakles who becomes buddha's bodyguard. I really hope that makes it in. And the Yona ie greek monks who go to China were so influential as many were former soldiers bringing their combat skills there from greece and what they learned in india. Lots of great ideas from india flowed back to greece and to rome too.
The Crimean War, often referenced rarely discussed
Wellington was educated near my home town in Ireland and was mp for before the campaigns. There is still massive divide if he himself was irish or english. We shall never know.
Thank you for this series. I was curious about this and your work was a great starting point for my own research and reading.
Your sources list highlights the big problem of your series on the Crimean war: most of them are british, hence the heavy british bias on your series.
Even in the army, food is serious business for the french, and for the british it's an afterthought :D
glad that question about buying rank in the british army was addressed
You should do a series on 1848 at some point in the near future
You need to start extending the series in either vid length or ep count if you have to leave out so many critical details.
Is that a Fairbairn and Sykes dagger to the left (viewers' left)?
I love me some lies.
I didn't know there was a series of crisies.
Yeah, winning a war is great for not changing and loosing is great for reform. And it's part of how Western warfare got to where it is.
Something i found interesting about Ford and Disney was taht they strongly disliked the class system they grew up with, but also recrated it in their own companies.
I too started looking up Crimea due to Flashman, the hero of Jalalabad.
7:05 What about Austrian Succession? Spanish Succession? League of Augsburg/Nine Years?
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Hello, the reading recommendations can be posted here ?
i hope that in the future you make clear that the kindom of sardinia was piemontiz and not of Sardinia
The army was evolving it just came too late for them. Lower ranking officers I believe also had experience in prior small wars but the higher ups of course didn’t as is commonly known.
The episode 5 map at min 7 is wrong, includes Greece in the Ottoman empire, wish you mentioned this here.
Amazing wrap up for this series as always! You guys always make my day.
And please one day do the wars of the roses! 🙏🙏🙏🙏🥹🥹🥹🥹
Look forward to these history Nuggets, It does not seem right that a history subject can be limited to a word count or episode count. You might be leaving out to much.
When talking about the Little Ice Age, I hope you gloss over modern global warming, cause I know the little ice age comes up by people saying AGW isn't real.
Omg, the argument that the Little Ice Age disproves climate change is so stupid
But please also mention the Medieval Warm Period (Viking Age), much warmer than today, when grain was farmed in Greenland. History and data are selectively edited/ignored on both sides of this issue.
@@erikjohnson9223 Nope. Looking at the planet as a whole, the Medieval Warm Period was not warmer than today. As a whole, the temperature of the Medieval Warm Period was around the same as the mid 20th century. Certainly the temperature distribution was different. The temperature average of the North Atlantic region was on par with the late 20th century. Some places were hotter, some places were cooler. One metric to assess which was hotter is sea level rise. Sea level rise in the Medieval Warm Period was not as fast as it is today.
@@faceoctopus4571 That observation, if true, could also be be explained by saying our models (for sea level etc) are incomplete/wrong.
"Human-influenced global warming" fraud successfully disproves itself.
When I was a lad, indeed.
There is a town in california Called sebastopool because of the Russian
coming up
'it starts with the life of the Buddha'
here's hoping they mention that there are many buddhas and it is a vast misconception to call anybody THE buddha
(also interesting: there's theories that buddhism was a reactionary movement against zoroastrian influence on hinduism... which may be gotten into but also seems a little esoteric so could be skipped over :P )
I remember they made a series on shaka zulu. It would be cool if they made a boer war serious but I fear that they will make it too political
All history is political
They probably won’t after everyone accused them of being racist by actually telling Shaka Zulus life story, both the good and the bad
Interesting that you use the French pronunciation for lieutenant when talking about the British army
all military related words in english are french
Thats crazy
I am looking forward to Life of the Buddha.
Hiii
I wish these episodes whete not limited. Cuz they are great but never long enough. I am sure they are reasons. But him cutting out cool stories and partz cuz they take to long is sad. I am sure they have thete reasons
why he look scared of the camera in this one lol
Early
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Crimean war: WWI open beta.
But for now, since 2014 Crimea is occupied by terrorist state russia, which will not last long. For the past 2 days there were quite a lot of explorations of the russian battle bases.
Given you interest in medical history, have you been to the Mutter Museum in Philadelphia? If not, then I highly recommend it.
I suppose the 7 Years War is one of the last truly Great Wars. Because it’s one of the largest conflicts around the world, that didn’t involve a certain (average height) lieutenant, nor be powered by steam or modern technology. So in my head, we have
The 7yrs War/The Great War,
World War 0,
World War 1,
World War 2.
It is often forgotten thet 532 men of the French light cavalry - Chasseurs d'Afrique under the command of General d'Allonville, attacked the Fredouikine Heights to cover the retreat of the British Light Brigade and suppress the enfilading fire by the Russians...thus avoiding further casualties.
You can also see Vladimir Lenin’s corpse in I think Moscow.