If you look at your manual it will tell you to rotate them only if your having wear problems. It will tell you the proper way to rotate them is side to side. In three years as a Ford diesel tech I never saw directional tires on a Ford dually. Dont over think this.
This is exactly why I have 7 matching tires on 7 matching steel rims with a set of stainless steel wheel simulators. Makes life much easier at tire rotation time for me and I am able to easily rotate all of the tires including the spare.
I do agree rotating trailer tires isn't necessary unless a noticeable uneven wear issue is present. However, I do recommend having them balanced when installing. Even if it's only a static balance with the weights only on the inside edge of the rim. That will give you the longest life expectancy. A lot of people don't think it's necessary to balance trailer tires, but they can cost as much or more than similar sized truck tires, so if you are investing that much into a tire, isn't it logical to have them balanced to ensure longer life?
I think I'm going to have to watch this again when I've not had such a full-on day and when I'm not quite so tired (no pun intended), because I'm very, very confused. Never realised running a dually was quite so complicated.
if your just moving inners side to side why dismount why not just swap them dismounting seams pointless if both inner rims are the same there not left right dependant.
Have 18000 miles on my 207 Ram cc dually I bought new with the Nexans. 70 psi fronts cold and rears 58 psi cold rears and the wear and ride are excellent. have rotated yet... thanks for the vid...
why are u dismounting a inner rear off a steel wheel just to mount to the opposite side steel wheel? just roll tire to the other side and put on other side
@@ht40 depending on the tread pattern of the tires, it may need to be turned around on the other side of the truck, in other words, the outer wall of the tire to the inside of the truck to line the tread up in the right direction. If they are directional tread tires, they would have to both be dismounted and re-mounted to line the tread direction back up.
Big Truck Big RV - Very interesting information as always; well spoken and to the point. I wouldn't have expected you to to get as long a life out of your tires as you do. Can you also do a video on your thoughts for using All Terrain type tires for both your tow vehicle and trailer?
I almost saw your face in the rim reflection....almost. Thank you, very informative and with my new truck and 5er im eating it all up as fast as I can put it in, going on a long journey at the end of October.
On my Ram 3500 dually I rotate the tires each 25,000 miles. Typically I get 50,000 plus miles out of a set. So, basically they get rotated once. And I follow the owners manual. Interesting that you have different wheels, some steel, some aluminum. This is not an issue I have. Good video!!
Good information, like your channel. And you're a fellow Texan, which is the best you have to offer. :) The only question I had regarding your recommendation was why you couldn't just swap the two inner rear wheels and tires as opposed to needing to dismount the tires and remount on the respective wheels. They're both steel, so...as for my personal truck, I have a 2000 F-350 CC LB DRW and I recently exchanged my aluminum wheels for factory steels. In addition, I run the same tire at every location, the factory recommended LT 235/185R16E. With this identical configuration, I can position any wheel at any location on the truck. And with that I plan on following a more conventional rotation pattern. Just my $.02. Thanks, keep up the good work.
Dually tires are rotated side to side per the Ford manual. Right front to left front/left front to right front , and right rears to left rears etc. They are not directional tires.
Great info, was wondering what the best way to rotate my Dually tires was. On my F250, I rotated them every oil change, but guessing that will not be needed as often with the Dually.
if you run new steer tires on the left drive axle for about 3000 miles new,then put them on the steer you won't need to rotate them the steers will wear even that's what we do on my 18 wheeler
Kickinpony.66 the problem is usually the stud length on the rear. The studs won't be long enough for two of the thicker aluminum wheels. Why they don't just make tue studs longer is beyond me...
I always wondered why there was a specific air pressure gauge with two filler heads. The gauge with two heads has a larger maximum PSI, but is also the same size as a normal "car" gauge. Meaning that it is not quite as accurate in most cases. It consists of a typical pressure stem, but it has a double headed portion that you put on the valve stem, and the angle of the stem versus the head is between 30-45 degrees approximately. A simple picture would do justice, but unfortunately you cannot put them in the comment section. It makes sense for going in between the dually's... I learn something every day... This video might save somebody's life, or multiple people for that matter! Driving is the most dangerous thing you can do on a daily basis, and not having good tires while towing... Please just don't do that. Somebody's loved one is sharing the road... This video might save lives temporarily, but your creator Jesus Christ, loves you always and forever, give your life to him! Take care folks!
Never ever mix all six tires with one another simply rotate left to right and right to left if they are mixed you have a chance of getting different diameter tires running on same hub the reason for not doing this is the taller tire carries more weight and the lower tire will gradually skid and will wear out a heck of a lot faster
Do not use steel extentions if you drive off road the whole vale stem rips/bends leaks!!!! The plastic/rubbed ones rip off the steel and you dont get a flat
IF you have solid / live axials You don't need to Rotate the Tires)) IF the Front is not A solid/Live Axial You would do better if you wait until the inside edge of the Tires are worn Down almost bald - Then take the Front Wheels off And Swap The Front tires so that the inside worn part is now on the outside but still facing the same direction , Then Drive on them until the other inside edge is almost bald - Then - move 2 of the Rear tires to the Front - Put The new tires on the inside on the rear so the older are on the outside so that you don't have to do it the next time you'll just take them from the outside rear and move them to the Front after both edges have worn on them - steelbelted tires can get bad after 5 years - if you're not using nitrogen only - However IF You Drove the vehicle down the interstate and let the Tires heat up making the oxygen expand causing the Presure In the Tires to go up then stop check the pressure and bleed it down you would get rid of most of the oxygen in the Tires - Because oxygen doesn't like heat and it will force it's way out of the Tires IF You bleed the Pressure while they are hot) After about 5 years it's common For Steelbelted Tires to have the blets to start twisting , IF you look at the tread serface of the Tires and it looks lumpy or you check IT by rubbing your hand across the surface of The tire and it's lumpy You're driving on dangerous tires That could have tread separation And that gets people killed The safest thing to do if you have it is to call AAA and take it in for new tires - or Remove them from the vehicle and take them in your self but IF you don't have those options Deflat the Tires to at least 25lbs Drive slower and get new tires as soon as you can , same for Dryroted Tires ,
I had a 2013 f350, i usually do all my brake, rotating, etc.. What appeared to me was that the inner part of the aluminum wheels where not polished like the outside, had a rough feel too it... Am I wrong on that?
I believe most duel wheel trucks have 6 steel wheels with caps. Maybe you can get an option that rotates your tires automatically. Add that to your list option boy.
Have you ever considered ditching the steel inner dual wheels and just go get some aluminum Alcoa similar to the ones on your f450? At least it would make tire rotation a whole lot simpler and would just spend time cleaning the wheels
I noticed on the 5ver it has sailun tires. After having a Goodyear Marathon load range E blow out resulting in $1600 in damage two years ago we moved up to Maxxis load range E. I will give credit to Goodyear in that they paid for all the damage. After talking to several tire shops and looking at numerous rv forums I have found out a person should keep the load range E tires inflated to maximum recommended pressure, usually 80psi and run no faster than 65 mph, as indicated on the sidewall. For the average user these tires will reach a time limit set by the manufacturer before they experience worn out tread. The time limit is usually 5 to 7 years, because these tires usually set a lot. Personally, the next set of tires I put on will be 14 ply rate Sailun or Gladiator. After experiencing a blow out I would rather change out tires a little sooner rather than TOO LATE because the next manufacturer might not want to pay for the damage.
Hi, we are set on getting the Ram 3500 dually. However, we are concerned about changing the tire on a dually or how to even do it when needed on the road. If you could give some tips or do a video, that would be awesome
I order my f350 with all steel rims so i can rotate the tires. 6 tires are alot of money not to get the most out of them and i can rotate the spare in as well.
Just rotate the passenger front with drivers front and leave the rear alone. Replace the front when worn out. Replace the rear when worn out. Done. But doing all this rotation is too much work and cost vs. Just buying new front tires when worn out. Inspect tires each fuel stop. Roll on. Retired RV guys have time for this kind of overkill because the tires are their obsession. Time is money when using a rig to make money and this for most rigs is impractical and unnecessary. Good video and explanation on tire stems and aluminum mixed with steel wheels. Keep it up.
Hi! Thanks for this, but was this info given with the idea that the owner cares about having all the shiny rims on the outside? Do any of the rims physically not flip around and fit on the front? Also, there used to be a belief, maybe it was just my dad, that you should rotate and keep them spinning in the same direction. Is that true? Or can the tire rotate the opposite way and be just fine?
Huh, I never rotate my tires on my dually. I just let the fronts wear down and replace the 2 fronts. Usually the backs last twice as long. My fronts are only 65PSI backs run 60. 2000 F350
Would you happen to have a video on wheel adapters? I have a ram 3500 drw I really want nicer wheels but I dont really want to balancing issues that come with the half sized such as 19.5 and 22.5 I was looking at 19 or 20 inch wheels, I drive it only with a load but I do have to deal with snow and rain and the tire needs to be something that works for everything Always have been hesitant on using wheel adapters, any input?
Recently decided to help my dad rotate the tires on his 02 Dually F350. Planned to swap front with outside rear on the same side, leaving the inner ones alone. We noticed the wheels had been stamped "front" or "rear" despite being otherwise identical. Is there a reason for them being stamped this way or something that would prevent them from being swapped front/rear?
Can you change your tire yourself? Do you have to actually lift the tire to mount it or us there a trick to do this? I'd be extremely nervous if I had a 5000 + lbs truck camper on it or 5000 lbs worth of water in the bed.
I have a tire question for you. I'm very safety conscience and always checking my tires. When I'm pulling my trailer I can't check the increase in tire pressure of the tires on the trailer but can on my truck thru the DIC of course as temp increases pressure increases. example truck cold max is 80psi and I fill to 70psi. when traveling my pressure my go up to 82psi. 1 should I be concerned cold psi was fine. 2 should I be concerned about temps. 3 should I monitor trailers tire psi while travling. Your input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks love your site.
Michael Kremer: Keep in mind that tire manufactures take into account the driving temperature rising (either from friction and/or the sunny facing side of the RV when driving). Tires lose their payload capacity quickly when not inflated to the correct "COLD PSI". You should look up your tire and determine what the payload capacity is at 70PSI vs the recommended 80PSI and make sure youre not below your RVs weight. If your tire is rated to be at 80PSI, that is COLD rating and does account for another 10-15degree increase while traveling. Many people go by the driving PSI and under inflate their tires thinking that the PSI should total the max, which is not correct. I suggest you always put in the correct listed cold PSI before traveling. Also, I HIGHLY suggest getting an aftermarket TPMS kit to monitor trailer tire pressure while driving. Generally you'll get a rapid air loss notification prior to the tire tearing apart and destroying your RV fender and. Potentially causing an accident. I use the EZTire system and love it. There are several, but just make sure you get a good quality system. They range between $200-400 for a nice setup with 4 sensors.
thank you so much for the reply very good information. So how do I know at what increased pressure the tire will fail out due to heat or friction assuming tire is in good Condition and is heat more important too monitor then pressure or will pressure tell you all you need to know. thanks again for the info on the TPMS. I have been checking them out.
Have you ever had any problems rotating tires side to side? Whenever I've rotated tires to the opposite side of the vehicle I've ended up worn a vibration. The tires were not directional. I've never run directional tires except for a set of winter tires that were only ever rotated front to back. It has happened to me with the last two sets of tires on my truck which were both Nokians. It also has happened with every car I've owned when the tires were rotated side to side. Any thoughts on this would be appreciated.
eman11000: Yes, I've experienced a slight vibration or a little noisier ride when swapping side to side especially if reversing a non-direction tire. I suggest trying to keep all your tires rolling the same direction even after a rotation.
I know this is 1-year old reply, but steel belted radials will internally separate if rotated side to side . Symptoms are vibration, shaking, swerving-float feeling, until the tread actually slides to the side. Ultimately tire failure.
alot of dually owners let there rear tires go bald because if one in the rear blows out they can limp it to the next stop as long as there steer tires have tread they r good
John: never seen it occur yet on the wheels. The engineer who put an insulator between the two differing alloys was a smart guy. Yay for College education!
I am looking for new tires for my F250 Super Duty 8'bed to tow my 7200# loaded Fifth Wheel Travel Trailer. I'm traveling mostly highway and RV parks. Any suggestions for quiet and comfort for my old body to travel on?
vppnbrent: since you are swapping them side to side and trying to keep them rolling the same direction, you'd have to dismount the inner tires from the rims and swap them.
Big Truck Big RV But then why wouldn't you need to turn the outer tires around on the rims when moving e.g. LF to RR to keep them rolling the same direction?
Lawrence Spahr: Chrysler Crossfire? Or the equalizer valve for tire pressure? Probably the valve :). I've heard truckers love them. I've personally never used them, but wouldn't be opposed to trying them.
I have them and love them. Although they need some TLC on installing them. the tires need to be orientated right so the tubes come out in the right places, and the stems need tightened with a wrench. which I have had problems getting any tire company to do. As they do make your tires last longer because they are easy to keep the right air pressure at all times. You know the old saying if u want it done right do it yourself. 😁 Love your site and Love my New "Nucam".
I was told by my company Fleet mechanic that rear dually tires aren't generally balanced. is that true or is he just Lazy? if it's true then swapping back to front would require rebalancing during rotation, if you don't have to dismount them.
What brand of tires do you have. I know you have a Ford, but I want to upgrade my current tires on my 2014 Ram 3500 HD DRW 4x4 which I use to tow my 18,000 lb fifth wheel. Can you recommend great tire
I currently have ROADIAN HTX which are OEM tires. When I'm not towing I get a wobble feeling in the rear end like the tires are low in pressure. I currently have air bags for leveling when towing. Plus I was also looking to replace them with a tire made in the US which it would make them more available.
Flexible braided extensions worked best for me on my rear Dooleys for my class C RV. Solid steel ones if not supported correctly will tear the threaded part of the steel valve stem off the tire. A real pain out in the middle of Arizona.
OK, count me as somewhat confused. In the respect that I thought only one side of those aluminum rims were polished. Which makes turning the front wheels around to go on the back axle impossible, as then you'd have an unpolished side showing to the outside. Course, this could be brand specific, as it is unknown to me if your Ford 19.5 rims are or are not polished on both sides.
Most duallys are like you said, they only polish one side of the rims, not sure about those alcoa's. I just swap my front rims from side to side. My rear tires never get rotated, they wear even, so I don't see a need to.
Unnecessary and labor-intensive you simply swap them from side to side because if you mix the front with the backs you will have different tire diameters where one tire will carry the weight and the other ones skids wearing them down even faster
Don't need to rotate tires. Just buy them as needed. Rotating is a scam. It doesn't make the last any longer. On my 1 ton replaced rears every 40k and fronts every 70k.
HondaCummins yep exspecialy on a dually if you move one of the back to the front then the rears are not the same height and the more worn one will drag and scuff. I only rotate the inside dual to the outside. I find the outside dual will cup a bit on the outside
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If you look at your manual it will tell you to rotate them only if your having wear problems. It will tell you the proper way to rotate them is side to side. In three years as a Ford diesel tech I never saw directional tires on a Ford dually. Dont over think this.
This is exactly why I have 7 matching tires on 7 matching steel rims with a set of stainless steel wheel simulators. Makes life much easier at tire rotation time for me and I am able to easily rotate all of the tires including the spare.
I do agree rotating trailer tires isn't necessary unless a noticeable uneven wear issue is present. However, I do recommend having them balanced when installing. Even if it's only a static balance with the weights only on the inside edge of the rim. That will give you the longest life expectancy.
A lot of people don't think it's necessary to balance trailer tires, but they can cost as much or more than similar sized truck tires, so if you are investing that much into a tire, isn't it logical to have them balanced to ensure longer life?
I think I'm going to have to watch this again when I've not had such a full-on day and when I'm not quite so tired (no pun intended), because I'm very, very confused. Never realised running a dually was quite so complicated.
if your just moving inners side to side why dismount why not just swap them dismounting seams pointless if both inner rims are the same there not left right dependant.
As always, you're a wealth of information. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you
Have 18000 miles on my 207 Ram cc dually I bought new with the Nexans. 70 psi fronts cold and rears 58 psi cold rears and the wear and ride are excellent. have rotated yet... thanks for the vid...
Discount Tires rotated tires for free on my dually.
Excellent idea
why are u dismounting a inner rear off a steel wheel just to mount to the opposite side steel wheel? just roll tire to the other side and put on other side
I know huh?
@@ht40 depending on the tread pattern of the tires, it may need to be turned around on the other side of the truck, in other words, the outer wall of the tire to the inside of the truck to line the tread up in the right direction. If they are directional tread tires, they would have to both be dismounted and re-mounted to line the tread direction back up.
@@WH6FQE Thanks. I have the continental tires, HSR and i think they are dot directional. I just hit 8K and contemplating rotating the tires.
Big Truck Big RV - Very interesting information as always; well spoken and to the point. I wouldn't have expected you to to get as long a life out of your tires as you do. Can you also do a video on your thoughts for using All Terrain type tires for both your tow vehicle and trailer?
That would be very helpful, I tow off road every trip.
I almost saw your face in the rim reflection....almost. Thank you, very informative and with my new truck and 5er im eating it all up as fast as I can put it in, going on a long journey at the end of October.
On my Ram 3500 dually I rotate the tires each 25,000 miles. Typically I get 50,000 plus miles out of a set. So, basically they get rotated once. And I follow the owners manual. Interesting that you have different wheels, some steel, some aluminum. This is not an issue I have. Good video!!
Good information, like your channel. And you're a fellow Texan, which is the best you have to offer. :) The only question I had regarding your recommendation was why you couldn't just swap the two inner rear wheels and tires as opposed to needing to dismount the tires and remount on the respective wheels. They're both steel, so...as for my personal truck, I have a 2000 F-350 CC LB DRW and I recently exchanged my aluminum wheels for factory steels. In addition, I run the same tire at every location, the factory recommended LT 235/185R16E. With this identical configuration, I can position any wheel at any location on the truck. And with that I plan on following a more conventional rotation pattern. Just my $.02. Thanks, keep up the good work.
Great Educational video on Truck Tire Rotation Thank You
Thank you for the answer to the question I never thought of !
Dually tires are rotated side to side per the Ford manual. Right front to left front/left front to right front , and right rears to left rears etc. They are not directional tires.
Great info, was wondering what the best way to rotate my Dually tires was. On my F250, I rotated them every oil change, but guessing that will not be needed as often with the Dually.
Wonder Whats Next F250 are not Dually trucks,
I learned a lot thanks
if you run new steer tires on the left drive axle for about 3000 miles new,then put them on the steer you won't need to rotate them the steers will wear even that's what we do on my 18 wheeler
basically you're doing an x with the outer rears with the front and flip flop the inner rear tires!
Wondering why you swap the tires on the two steel rims? You are switching direction on four of the others anyway, why not just move them side to side?
instead of dismounting the inner rear tires couldnt you just swap the whole rim and tire over? it looks like they arent directional
jts98z28: if their not directional, then yes.
For the cost of purchasing a 1-ton truck, you should get 6 aluminum wheels, not 4.
Kickinpony.66 the problem is usually the stud length on the rear. The studs won't be long enough for two of the thicker aluminum wheels. Why they don't just make tue studs longer is beyond me...
Right! Who knows...
why is that jc
I always wondered why there was a specific air pressure gauge with two filler heads. The gauge with two heads has a larger maximum PSI, but is also the same size as a normal "car" gauge. Meaning that it is not quite as accurate in most cases. It consists of a typical pressure stem, but it has a double headed portion that you put on the valve stem, and the angle of the stem versus the head is between 30-45 degrees approximately. A simple picture would do justice, but unfortunately you cannot put them in the comment section. It makes sense for going in between the dually's... I learn something every day... This video might save somebody's life, or multiple people for that matter! Driving is the most dangerous thing you can do on a daily basis, and not having good tires while towing... Please just don't do that. Somebody's loved one is sharing the road... This video might save lives temporarily, but your creator Jesus Christ, loves you always and forever, give your life to him! Take care folks!
valve stems should be clocked 180° apart
I bet that you still miss that little truck
Never ever mix all six tires with one another simply rotate left to right and right to left if they are mixed you have a chance of getting different diameter tires running on same hub the reason for not doing this is the taller tire carries more weight and the lower tire will gradually skid and will wear out a heck of a lot faster
Glad I run 6 steel wheels on my DRW. Rotating is much easier. :)
Do not use steel extentions if you drive off road the whole vale stem rips/bends leaks!!!!
The plastic/rubbed ones rip off the steel and you dont get a flat
IF you have solid / live axials
You don't need to Rotate the Tires))
IF the Front is not A solid/Live Axial
You would do better if you wait until the inside edge of the Tires are worn
Down almost bald - Then take the Front Wheels off And Swap The Front tires so that the inside worn part is now on the outside but still facing the same direction , Then Drive on them until the other inside edge is almost bald - Then - move 2 of the Rear tires to the Front - Put The new tires on the inside on the rear so the older are on the outside so that you don't have to do it the next time you'll just take them from the outside rear and move them to the Front after both edges have worn on them - steelbelted tires can get bad after 5 years - if you're not using nitrogen only - However IF You Drove the vehicle down the interstate and let the Tires heat up making the oxygen expand causing the Presure
In the Tires to go up then stop check the pressure and bleed it down you would get rid of most of the oxygen in the Tires - Because oxygen doesn't like heat and it will force it's way out of the Tires IF You bleed the Pressure while they are hot)
After about 5 years it's common For Steelbelted Tires to have the blets to start twisting , IF you look at the tread serface of the Tires and it looks lumpy or you check IT by rubbing your hand across the surface of The tire and it's lumpy
You're driving on dangerous tires
That could have tread separation
And that gets people killed
The safest thing to do if you have it is to call AAA and take it in for new tires - or Remove them from the vehicle and take them in your self but IF you don't have those options
Deflat the Tires to at least 25lbs
Drive slower and get new tires as soon as you can , same for Dryroted
Tires ,
I had a 2013 f350, i usually do all my brake, rotating, etc.. What appeared to me was that the inner part of the aluminum wheels where not polished like the outside, had a rough feel too it... Am I wrong on that?
I believe most duel wheel trucks have 6 steel wheels with caps. Maybe you can get an option that rotates your tires automatically. Add that to your list option boy.
Thank you. bill in Florida
Why on earth would you need to dismount and remount the inside dual tires? Just swap them from side to side. They aren't directional tires are they?
Have you ever considered ditching the steel inner dual wheels and just go get some aluminum Alcoa similar to the ones on your f450? At least it would make tire rotation a whole lot simpler and would just spend time cleaning the wheels
M Silveyra: yep
great video.
I noticed on the 5ver it has sailun tires. After having a Goodyear Marathon load range E blow out resulting in $1600 in damage two years ago we moved up to Maxxis load range E. I will give credit to Goodyear in that they paid for all the damage. After talking to several tire shops and looking at numerous rv forums I have found out a person should keep the load range E tires inflated to maximum recommended pressure, usually 80psi and run no faster than 65 mph, as indicated on the sidewall. For the average user these tires will reach a time limit set by the manufacturer before they experience worn out tread. The time limit is usually 5 to 7 years, because these tires usually set a lot. Personally, the next set of tires I put on will be 14 ply rate Sailun or Gladiator. After experiencing a blow out I would rather change out tires a little sooner rather than TOO LATE because the next manufacturer might not want to pay for the damage.
Nice!
Hi, we are set on getting the Ram 3500 dually. However, we are concerned about changing the tire on a dually or how to even do it when needed on the road. If you could give some tips or do a video, that would be awesome
Great video, but you didn't mention much about the pressure's and a TPMS, or did I miss a previous video you've done.
I order my f350 with all steel rims so i can rotate the tires. 6 tires are alot of money not to get the most out of them and i can rotate the spare in as well.
Sorry my friend but the front and rear aloy wheel will not interchange!
Or, or, or... Just buy two matching wheels to replace the steelies and rotate them as normal.
The studs on the rear of the truck usually arent long enough to go through two of the thicker aluminum wheels.....
I have a 3/4 ton SRW with a Traction set in the back and a Steer set in the front. Drives much better than having 4 of the same tires.
Just rotate the passenger front with drivers front and leave the rear alone. Replace the front when worn out. Replace the rear when worn out. Done. But doing all this rotation is too much work and cost vs. Just buying new front tires when worn out. Inspect tires each fuel stop. Roll on. Retired RV guys have time for this kind of overkill because the tires are their obsession. Time is money when using a rig to make money and this for most rigs is impractical and unnecessary. Good video and explanation on tire stems and aluminum mixed with steel wheels. Keep it up.
Good to know.... er for my friends w/ Duallys....
Hi! Thanks for this, but was this info given with the idea that the owner cares about having all the shiny rims on the outside? Do any of the rims physically not flip around and fit on the front? Also, there used to be a belief, maybe it was just my dad, that you should rotate and keep them spinning in the same direction. Is that true? Or can the tire rotate the opposite way and be just fine?
have you ever considered doing a video on aftermarket brake controllers? just a thought...
thanks.
Huh, I never rotate my tires on my dually. I just let the fronts wear down and replace the 2 fronts. Usually the backs last twice as long. My fronts are only 65PSI backs run 60. 2000 F350
Dude LA roads are the worst especially on the 20 going through Shreveport.
Would you happen to have a video on wheel adapters? I have a ram 3500 drw
I really want nicer wheels but I dont really want to balancing issues that come with the half sized such as 19.5 and 22.5
I was looking at 19 or 20 inch wheels, I drive it only with a load but I do have to deal with snow and rain and the tire needs to be something that works for everything
Always have been hesitant on using wheel adapters, any input?
Recently decided to help my dad rotate the tires on his 02 Dually F350. Planned to swap front with outside rear on the same side, leaving the inner ones alone. We noticed the wheels had been stamped "front" or "rear" despite being otherwise identical.
Is there a reason for them being stamped this way or something that would prevent them from being swapped front/rear?
If you have all steel rims then I assume you can just move them around in the circle like you are mentioning?
WestLikeTheDirection: so long as your tires are not directional tread
On the off chance that I would drive a dually, I'd only get all steel rims... or at least the same kinds of rims. No half-steel/half-aluminum for me.
Why the hell would I dismount the 2 inner? They're steel. Just swap them, unless your tires are directional.
Can you change your tire yourself? Do you have to actually lift the tire to mount it or us there a trick to do this? I'd be extremely nervous if I had a 5000 + lbs truck camper on it or 5000 lbs worth of water in the bed.
I have a tire question for you. I'm very safety conscience and always checking my tires. When I'm pulling my trailer I can't check the increase in tire pressure of the tires on the trailer but can on my truck thru the DIC of course as temp increases pressure increases. example truck cold max is 80psi and I fill to 70psi. when traveling my pressure my go up to 82psi.
1 should I be concerned cold psi was fine.
2 should I be concerned about temps.
3 should I monitor trailers tire psi while travling.
Your input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks love your site.
Michael Kremer: Keep in mind that tire manufactures take into account the driving temperature rising (either from friction and/or the sunny facing side of the RV when driving). Tires lose their payload capacity quickly when not inflated to the correct "COLD PSI". You should look up your tire and determine what the payload capacity is at 70PSI vs the recommended 80PSI and make sure youre not below your RVs weight. If your tire is rated to be at 80PSI, that is COLD rating and does account for another 10-15degree increase while traveling. Many people go by the driving PSI and under inflate their tires thinking that the PSI should total the max, which is not correct. I suggest you always put in the correct listed cold PSI before traveling. Also, I HIGHLY suggest getting an aftermarket TPMS kit to monitor trailer tire pressure while driving. Generally you'll get a rapid air loss notification prior to the tire tearing apart and destroying your RV fender and. Potentially causing an accident. I use the EZTire system and love it. There are several, but just make sure you get a good quality system. They range between $200-400 for a nice setup with 4 sensors.
thank you so much for the reply very good information. So how do I know at what increased pressure the tire will fail out due to heat or friction assuming tire is in good Condition and is heat more important too monitor then pressure or will pressure tell you all you need to know. thanks again for the info on the TPMS. I have been checking them out.
Those darn Louisiana roads!
Have you ever had any problems rotating tires side to side? Whenever I've rotated tires to the opposite side of the vehicle I've ended up worn a vibration. The tires were not directional. I've never run directional tires except for a set of winter tires that were only ever rotated front to back. It has happened to me with the last two sets of tires on my truck which were both Nokians. It also has happened with every car I've owned when the tires were rotated side to side. Any thoughts on this would be appreciated.
eman11000: Yes, I've experienced a slight vibration or a little noisier ride when swapping side to side especially if reversing a non-direction tire. I suggest trying to keep all your tires rolling the same direction even after a rotation.
I know this is 1-year old reply, but steel belted radials will internally separate if rotated side to side . Symptoms are vibration, shaking, swerving-float feeling, until the tread actually slides to the side. Ultimately tire failure.
@@mramx6422 So do not rotate them side to side and keep them all the same direction?
alot of dually owners let there rear tires go bald because if one in the rear blows out they can limp it to the next stop as long as there steer tires have tread they r good
Curtis Bertling yep we allways have 2 spairs lol
How does your factory TPMS manage the six wheels?
Who thought it was a good idea to couple aluminium and steel together? Yay for galvanic corrosion.
John: never seen it occur yet on the wheels. The engineer who put an insulator between the two differing alloys was a smart guy. Yay for College education!
Good video, good information.. I have one question, an 05 gmc 3500 dually inside rear tire wear faster than outer?
Front tires (no) = Steer tires :) hehe I think you're overthinking a tire rotation bud. Still love your videos
I am looking for new tires for my F250 Super Duty 8'bed to tow my 7200# loaded Fifth Wheel Travel Trailer. I'm traveling mostly highway and RV parks. Any suggestions for quiet and comfort for my old body to travel on?
Are you willing considering to put 35 tires on your truck
So the outer rims are the same?
Big, I didn't understand the dis-mounting of the inner dually's when rotating.
vppnbrent: since you are swapping them side to side and trying to keep them rolling the same direction, you'd have to dismount the inner tires from the rims and swap them.
So they are directional tires, I get it now. Thanks. Great video.
Big Truck Big RV But then why wouldn't you need to turn the outer tires around on the rims when moving e.g. LF to RR to keep them rolling the same direction?
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@@MichaelBrown-kk6ck Does it have to do with turning the wheel inside out?
Why aren't the inner rear wheels aluminum to reduce unsprung weight and overall weight? Those steel wheels gotta be heavy.
I'm thinking to save a buck in production.
I know Ford dealers offer to rotate your tires when they change the oil, how much does that service cost for a dually
$30 and front only on aluminum wheels
Why would you not just flip the two rear steel wheels side to side?
why would dismount the inners just swop sides
just for me. I never change rotation of a tire.
what is your take on Crossfires?
Lawrence Spahr: Chrysler Crossfire? Or the equalizer valve for tire pressure? Probably the valve :). I've heard truckers love them. I've personally never used them, but wouldn't be opposed to trying them.
I have them and love them. Although they need some TLC on installing them. the tires need to be orientated right so the tubes come out in the right places, and the stems need tightened with a wrench. which I have had problems getting any tire company to do. As they do make your tires last longer because they are easy to keep the right air pressure at all times. You know the old saying if u want it done right do it yourself. 😁 Love your site and Love my New "Nucam".
I was told by my company Fleet mechanic that rear dually tires aren't generally balanced. is that true or is he just Lazy? if it's true then swapping back to front would require rebalancing during rotation, if you don't have to dismount them.
Shawn McIntyre: never heard of that. mine are balance
That's what I figured, thanks
What brand of tires do you have. I know you have a Ford, but I want to upgrade my current tires on my 2014 Ram 3500 HD DRW 4x4 which I use to tow my 18,000 lb fifth wheel. Can you recommend great tire
Greg H: is there anything in particular that you dont like about your tires?
I currently have ROADIAN HTX which are OEM tires. When I'm not towing I get a wobble feeling in the rear end like the tires are low in pressure. I currently have air bags for leveling when towing. Plus I was also looking to replace them with a tire made in the US which it would make them more available.
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Flexible braided extensions worked best for me on my rear Dooleys for my class C RV. Solid steel ones if not supported correctly will tear the threaded part of the steel valve stem off the tire. A real pain out in the middle of Arizona.
OK, count me as somewhat confused. In the respect that I thought only one side of those aluminum rims were polished. Which makes turning the front wheels around to go on the back axle impossible, as then you'd have an unpolished side showing to the outside. Course, this could be brand specific, as it is unknown to me if your Ford 19.5 rims are or are not polished on both sides.
Most duallys are like you said, they only polish one side of the rims, not sure about those alcoa's. I just swap my front rims from side to side. My rear tires never get rotated, they wear even, so I don't see a need to.
how many feet wide are Dually trucks ??
8'3''
It only drops the other tire down 10lb then stops according to my directions.
How many miles you get on a set of tires?
JCLawn51: depends. 17s around 65-85k and 19.5s around 90-110k
What is RV? I'am stupid btw..
your not dismounting rear inner tires. just rotating them side to side
Why dont you use a auto balancing system, so you dont have to rotate them.
Aarin Jacobi: great point
why not just get a can swap them over so I decide if you do it that way you're only
Isn't the rim on the front and back different
Thoughts about running nitrogen in tires on F350 and or F450 with 5th wheel??
Unnecessary and labor-intensive you simply swap them from side to side because if you mix the front with the backs you will have different tire diameters where one tire will carry the weight and the other ones skids wearing them down even faster
What mileage do you rotate at?
TShull Just look at the tire wear
TShull: generally around 30-50k miles for duallys
Certainly at VR before the end of the runway!
Confusing
Don't need to rotate tires. Just buy them as needed. Rotating is a scam. It doesn't make the last any longer. On my 1 ton replaced rears every 40k and fronts every 70k.
HondaCummins yep exspecialy on a dually if you move one of the back to the front then the rears are not the same height and the more worn one will drag and scuff.
I only rotate the inside dual to the outside. I find the outside dual will cup a bit on the outside
Just avoid alumni rims and use steel rims with chrome simulators.
Best to get all aluminum
i wouldent mess with that dodge bed, i seen a study some where that showed dodge stuff leads to homosexuality