I have used a very unorthodox method to achieve negative fill or bounce in a couple of instances in the past, that only really works in very tight shots, and should not be a method to be relied heavily on, but it does work when you have no other options, or very limited resources to shape light. Essentially what I've done is notice that someone, who is on set, and is not particularly busy at the moment, that is reasonable large person, and happens to be wearing either a white or black, or very bright or dark shirt, can act as bounce or negative fill when being near the subject in a pinch in certain scenarios. Like I said, not the ideal method, but you got to use the resources that are available to you to get the shot looking more the way you want.
I would look into which are your local syndicat or ‘agency’ for that and give them a call. For exemple for me, I live in Montréal, Canada, and we have a syndicat for set technicians called ‘Aqtis’ so I called them and ask how to get started, now I receive job offers everyday by email. The north American syndicat is called ‘Iatse’ and works the same way. Once you find out who runs the field in your country or area, give them a call :) especially right now is a great time to get started because they are missing employees in every department. It would be very easy to become a set PA (production assistant) even with no experience. Other ways is then to ask for facebook groups. We have a few here and I see job offers on there too. It’s also a great platform to ask general questions to other workers since you’ll get honest answers. Hope this helps :)
@@LaurieTheberge I also live in MTL wow the world is small XD. The "problem" I found with these associations is that because they are syndicate I was told that before becoming a member you had to generate a bunch of "credits" which is the long and difficult process. As well as you can not mix studies with aqtis for exemple. I do not know much about LATSE though. But I agree that Montreal is a very nice place to work in cinema. I DONT KNOW IF I'M WRONG SO PLEASE FEEL FREE TO CORRECT ME :)
@@olivierparent3554 oh nice! Yes you do need to accumulate credits, but thats basically your experience to get your title. So you need to pick your department and your role and get your credits there to get your title. The good thing now is that you can buy your membership, which means you are second in line to see the job offers and Aqtis holds less percentage off your pay check. Yes it can take a long time do get your credits, it also depends on the department you choose, for exemple in the camera department, you need to be 2nd AC, get all your credits, than 1st AC, get your credits, to than be a cam operator and than a DOP. While my department, Continuity, I just accumulate my credits as a Script Supervisor. Theres a lot of unpaid observation days to do, but it’s doable. The thing to remember tho is that since Aqtis is a syndicat, you are insured if you are injured on set, you are paid according to common laws and agreements, you pay your taxes and shit with every pay so you don’t have to accumulate thousands to pay your taxes at the end of the year, you get access to insurances for meds, dental, physio and such. It’s basically giving you all the perks of a yearly paid employee, but while having the status of a freelancer. The time it will take you to get your credits is well worth all of that. And anyways, all jobs in Montreal pass by Aqtis, so you don’t have much choice if you wanna work on set. They are now merging with iatse so we will start seeing American offers…just like I’m seeing offers to work on Transformers 7 right now. Pretty cool.
Love your channel and your videos! These are gold for those who are not aware of all the technicalities of cinematography! I have a little suggestion though: it would be nice if you could put the name of the movie that you're showing as an example somewhere on the screen (e.g. in a corner).
I myself only have experience with very inexpensive gear, and I can vouch for how much better the image is if I can use natural light, but I certainly need to elevate my negative fill game. Very useful, thanks.
I find this really interesting but I have one big question on that topic. How do they light a scene properly when the camera moves instantly and you have different frames? e.g. The Person walks into his house and the camera follows him with a steady cam shot. We see the house outside, we walk through the door (lights change completely ?!) we see the ceiling and walls etc. There is no change to put lights or black tissue to reduce light for example. how is this done? I'm interested how they make sure that the film or chip doenst get overexposed when they walk from light to dark places or vice versa. Hope you understand what i mean. Im not a native speaker
It depends on the shot/location/technical approach/etc. Balancing the exposure (adding more light to an interior) without placing any lights inside is often done by setting up a powerful source, such as an 18K HMI, outside the location through a window. If there's a large change in exposure, sometimes an iris pull is done. This is where a wireless motor is attached to the iris gear on the lens. The lens may start at T/5.6 when the camera is outside and there's lots of light and then as the camera moves inside where there is less light the lens is opened up by wirelessly changing the aperture to T/2 or whatever to compensate for the change in exposure.
Great video and storytelling (including your cutout visuals) around 4 ways to light cinematically. I appreciated the film examples, and the notes on shaping the light with grip tools like flags. Thank you!
I'm a photographer, and I believe there is a lot to learn from videographers and their work, both old and new. Incorporating the learnings into my work has been a fascinating journey for the last few years.
@@sameenmohd8216 I'm 40 and have had a huge passion for movies since I was 12 but gained a huge loving behind the scenes of movies when DVD's would show the special features on how movies are made since around 1999 when I was 18, At first I wanted to be an actor at age 15 but then got really interested watching behind the scenes of movies on DVD features. My passion of becoming a Filmmaker has never become true because of learning disabilities and have a poor education at school, also I suffer OCD and high anxiety every day since I was 13.
@@sameenmohd8216 I'm on a disability pension but have been looking to do Filmmaking courses in any field but because of my learning disabilities have found it hard to get into Filmmaking, directing, screenwriting, cinematographer, editing, special makeup effects, all these really interest me and I would love just to do anything behind the scenes of movies I just wish they would cater to people who have learning disabilities.
@@robertobuatti7226 I think that filmschool is the best choice. Maybe you can find one in your city. The most useful thing about a film school is the relationships between people, as you can't make a movie alone. You would start to get in contact with people that have your same passion, everything becomes easier then. Don't let the possible age gap between you and the other people (maybe the majority of them will be in their 20s) stop you from doing that, it really doesn't matter.
I can't wait for AI to get the point where you can light however and then just digitally make the lighting however you want, we will for sure see that someday in the future, people won't use lights at all
Thank you for helping me achieve my dream with these quality videos.
waow
I have used a very unorthodox method to achieve negative fill or bounce in a couple of instances in the past, that only really works in very tight shots, and should not be a method to be relied heavily on, but it does work when you have no other options, or very limited resources to shape light. Essentially what I've done is notice that someone, who is on set, and is not particularly busy at the moment, that is reasonable large person, and happens to be wearing either a white or black, or very bright or dark shirt, can act as bounce or negative fill when being near the subject in a pinch in certain scenarios. Like I said, not the ideal method, but you got to use the resources that are available to you to get the shot looking more the way you want.
that's amazing.
Can you make a video about how to get into a film production and just like getting into the industry?
I absolutely would love to see that.
Get a job as a PA (very easy) and work your way up from there.
I would look into which are your local syndicat or ‘agency’ for that and give them a call. For exemple for me, I live in Montréal, Canada, and we have a syndicat for set technicians called ‘Aqtis’ so I called them and ask how to get started, now I receive job offers everyday by email. The north American syndicat is called ‘Iatse’ and works the same way. Once you find out who runs the field in your country or area, give them a call :) especially right now is a great time to get started because they are missing employees in every department. It would be very easy to become a set PA (production assistant) even with no experience. Other ways is then to ask for facebook groups. We have a few here and I see job offers on there too. It’s also a great platform to ask general questions to other workers since you’ll get honest answers. Hope this helps :)
@@LaurieTheberge I also live in MTL wow the world is small XD. The "problem" I found with these associations is that because they are syndicate I was told that before becoming a member you had to generate a bunch of "credits" which is the long and difficult process. As well as you can not mix studies with aqtis for exemple. I do not know much about LATSE though. But I agree that Montreal is a very nice place to work in cinema. I DONT KNOW IF I'M WRONG SO PLEASE FEEL FREE TO CORRECT ME :)
@@olivierparent3554 oh nice! Yes you do need to accumulate credits, but thats basically your experience to get your title. So you need to pick your department and your role and get your credits there to get your title. The good thing now is that you can buy your membership, which means you are second in line to see the job offers and Aqtis holds less percentage off your pay check. Yes it can take a long time do get your credits, it also depends on the department you choose, for exemple in the camera department, you need to be 2nd AC, get all your credits, than 1st AC, get your credits, to than be a cam operator and than a DOP. While my department, Continuity, I just accumulate my credits as a Script Supervisor. Theres a lot of unpaid observation days to do, but it’s doable. The thing to remember tho is that since Aqtis is a syndicat, you are insured if you are injured on set, you are paid according to common laws and agreements, you pay your taxes and shit with every pay so you don’t have to accumulate thousands to pay your taxes at the end of the year, you get access to insurances for meds, dental, physio and such. It’s basically giving you all the perks of a yearly paid employee, but while having the status of a freelancer. The time it will take you to get your credits is well worth all of that. And anyways, all jobs in Montreal pass by Aqtis, so you don’t have much choice if you wanna work on set. They are now merging with iatse so we will start seeing American offers…just like I’m seeing offers to work on Transformers 7 right now. Pretty cool.
Love your channel and your videos! These are gold for those who are not aware of all the technicalities of cinematography! I have a little suggestion though: it would be nice if you could put the name of the movie that you're showing as an example somewhere on the screen (e.g. in a corner).
They are mentioned in the end frame
Grey, thanks for sharing this from your own experience. I appreciate your suggestions!!!!
I myself only have experience with very inexpensive gear, and I can vouch for how much better the image is if I can use natural light, but I certainly need to elevate my negative fill game. Very useful, thanks.
“They didn’t use any lights here”
The 20 000W light behind the window: *😖*
Hey, great video. Do you think you could make a video about tips for working with non-diegetic and/or coloured lighting?
One of my favourite channels, keep the good videos coming. Thanks
thank you 👏
I find this really interesting but I have one big question on that topic.
How do they light a scene properly when the camera moves instantly and you have different frames?
e.g. The Person walks into his house and the camera follows him with a steady cam shot. We see the house outside, we walk through the door (lights change completely ?!)
we see the ceiling and walls etc. There is no change to put lights or black tissue to reduce light for example.
how is this done?
I'm interested how they make sure that the film or chip doenst get overexposed when they walk from light to dark places or vice versa.
Hope you understand what i mean. Im not a native speaker
It depends on the shot/location/technical approach/etc. Balancing the exposure (adding more light to an interior) without placing any lights inside is often done by setting up a powerful source, such as an 18K HMI, outside the location through a window.
If there's a large change in exposure, sometimes an iris pull is done. This is where a wireless motor is attached to the iris gear on the lens. The lens may start at T/5.6 when the camera is outside and there's lots of light and then as the camera moves inside where there is less light the lens is opened up by wirelessly changing the aperture to T/2 or whatever to compensate for the change in exposure.
@@InDepthCine Thanks for the reply! very interesting!
Excellent explanations and visuals!
Thanks! It was clear, concise, and very valuable.
Thank you 😍
Best video about using natural lighting options.
Great video and storytelling (including your cutout visuals) around 4 ways to light cinematically. I appreciated the film examples, and the notes on shaping the light with grip tools like flags. Thank you!
This video is incredible, thank you for sharing this
Nice and simple ! 👏
My favorite channel
I love your videos! They’re always high quality and super informative. Thanks for your hard work!
Thank you, this was important, because of the negative
I'm a photographer, and I believe there is a lot to learn from videographers and their work, both old and new. Incorporating the learnings into my work has been a fascinating journey for the last few years.
One of my favorite channels, love your advice and presentation
Such a great video! Thanks so much!
Very good tyfs💯😁👏🏾👏🏾
Thank you a lot!
Very useful tips. Thanks you so much!
This was great insight! Good work!
Great Video as always very educational learned a lot thanks
your videos really help me out keep it up bro
This is a godsend
Great video!
So good!
Worth watching video 🎥 so good
Top notch
Great content . New subscriber 😉
Do you have a link to that Bradford Young clip? Is it from a longer interview/ podcast?
Man that's really useful when you don't have money
What a great video.
That 1 dislike must be from a lighting manufacturer
I guess the question at this point is how do we rig our bedsheet or trash bags for cheap? Since c-stands and combos and everything else is expensive
Tape or blutac
Would you use negative fill outdoors on a sunny day or even on a cloudy day
Cinematic lighting is lighting in service of the story. period. "cinematic b-roll" I mean...come one!
What are the possible ways to shoot in night with only sources like Torch, emergency lamp in woods......
What are the movies at 5:17 and 6:14?
Midsommer at 5:17.
@@pranabkumarbora10 Thanks dude :)
6:14 Crazy Rich Asians
reminder that Sharp Objects has been filmed with completely natural lighting.
Do you do basic courses in cinematography online for beginners such as myself.
@@sameenmohd8216 I haven't done any courses in cinematography only a beginners course for film directing.
@@sameenmohd8216 I would love to but I'm just a beginner. Don't know too much.
@@sameenmohd8216 I'm 40 and have had a huge passion for movies since I was 12 but gained a huge loving behind the scenes of movies when DVD's would show the special features on how movies are made since around 1999 when I was 18, At first I wanted to be an actor at age 15 but then got really interested watching behind the scenes of movies on DVD features. My passion of becoming a Filmmaker has never become true because of learning disabilities and have a poor education at school, also I suffer OCD and high anxiety every day since I was 13.
@@sameenmohd8216 I'm on a disability pension but have been looking to do Filmmaking courses in any field but because of my learning disabilities have found it hard to get into Filmmaking, directing, screenwriting, cinematographer, editing, special makeup effects, all these really interest me and I would love just to do anything behind the scenes of movies I just wish they would cater to people who have learning disabilities.
@@robertobuatti7226 I think that filmschool is the best choice. Maybe you can find one in your city. The most useful thing about a film school is the relationships between people, as you can't make a movie alone. You would start to get in contact with people that have your same passion, everything becomes easier then. Don't let the possible age gap between you and the other people (maybe the majority of them will be in their 20s) stop you from doing that, it really doesn't matter.
We would like to collaborate with you please advise. Thank you.
I was thinking Sun, moon, fire, explosion
Cinematic lighting is intentional lighting.
I can't wait for AI to get the point where you can light however and then just digitally make the lighting however you want, we will for sure see that someday in the future, people won't use lights at all
Noice
Néstor Almendros would've liked this video!
Yeah after film photogrraphy , cinema is making a comeback now everyone want to be a director lmao
Патриот?
There s no such thing as artificial light. Electric? Yes, but not artificial.
my goodness that short video where you weirdly pulling focus is so disturbing to my eye s i had to look away every time it came up
Pretty racist to have Bradford Young on here talking about blacking out walls. But whatevs bruh
Great video!