Watch Live: OH v. Dr. William Husel Trial Day 13 - Arguments Outside Presence Of The Jury
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- Опубликовано: 13 мар 2022
- LIVE COVERAGE: OH v. Dr. William Husel Trial - Former Doctor Fentanyl Murders
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OH v. Dr. William Husel Trial Day 13 -
Arguments Outside Presence Of The Jury
Jacob Deemer - Former Mt. Carmel Nurse
Lunch
Jamie Bourke - Former Mt. Carmel Nurse
Mark Dellinger - Mt. Carmel Physician
Jamie Bourke - Former Mt. Carmel Nurse
An Ohio doctor was charged with 25 counts of murder on Wednesday for allegedly prescribing lethal doses of fentanyl to dying patients. Franklin County Prosecutor Ron O’Brien said that he has never seen a 25-count murder indictment in his career, adding that the doses Dr. William Husel allegedly ordered in the 25 deaths “could not support any legitimate medical purpose.”
Husel, 43, was a doctor for the Mount Carmel Health System; he was fired at the end of 2018 after an internal investigation found wrongdoing.
Husel faces a potential sentence of 15 years to life in prison for each count - if convicted.
Husel’s lawyer Richard Blake claimed that, actually, “this is not a murder case.”
“I can assure you there was never any attempt to euthanize anyone by Dr. Husel. At no time did he ever have the intent to euthanize anyone,” he said.
Mount Carmel Health System, for its part, has said in a statement that it “will continue to implement meaningful changes throughout our system to ensure events like these never happen again.”
The Columbus-based healthcare system also fired 20 other employees after an internal investigation found that patients received exorbitant amounts of Fentanyl. Even though nurses doled out-and pharmacists filled-Husel’s prescriptions, the focus of the criminal investigation remains on Husel, according to prosecutors.
Mount Carmel President and CEO Ed Lamb said at the time of the investigation’s conclusion that “regardless of the reason the actions were taken, we take responsibility for the fact that the processes in place were not sufficient to prevent these actions from happening.” He added, “we’re doing everything to understand how this happened and what we need to do to ensure that it never happens again.”
The State Medical Board of Ohio suspended Husel’s license in January because the doctor failed “to meet acceptable standards regarding the selection of drugs, violations of the minimal standards of care and failing to cooperate in a board’s investigation,” the board said.
Mount Carmel has settled at least five wrongful death suits since it fired Husel. Two of the suits that were settled involved deaths of 73-year-old women. Sherry White died in 2014 after receiving two, 100-microgram doses of fentanyl within 16 minutes of each other, the suit alleged. But White’s death certificate said that she died of septic shock from a urinary tract infection (UTI).
The suit in the death of Peggy Francis alleged that she died six minutes after she was given a 200-microgram dose of fentanyl. The death certificate said that Francis-who was being treated for kidney cancer-died from septic shock caused by a UTI.
Each of the lawsuits allege that health care providers ignored excessive painkiller warnings from an electronic medical system or that the system failed to work in the first place. After Mount Carmel fired Husel in December, the health care provider updated its guidelines that a usual adult dosage of fentanyl should be between 25 and 100 micrograms, according to an Ohio Department of Health inspection report. Husel faces an additional 19 wrongful-death suits after another eight were settled, according to NBC.
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My father was on his death bed in severe pain. Each breath was horrible. We begged and pleaded to help. Take away his pain. Finally a nurse burst in with a needle and gave my dad what he needed. Shortly he started breathing better and within a he he was gone . He finally got some peace. His last moments were dignified. We loved him so much and I hope this doctor is around when my time comes. Cause I would rather be without pain even if it meant one day or a week or even a month less of my life. I would give up a year if that’s what it takes. Life is not worth living if I’m suffering the whole time.
I feel exactly the same way. Dr Husel is a compassionate physician who simply wanted a 'good death' for those at the end of their life, and the best experience possible for their loved ones.
I cant believe this prosecution was launched. It's ludicrous and has affected the lives of so many professionals beyond just this doctor's.
This judge is unbelievably unprofessional..what’s shame and disgrace to the courts
Im a Doctor this is an absolute disgrace! The Prosecution really needs to drop these charges. Allow Doctors to be Doctors and care and respect their patients. This Doctor did nothing wrong. Funny how the hospital didnt have any problem with dispensing these meds at the time. Its all controlled!
Totally agree! A bunch of Doctors and Nurses seem to think he is the scapegoat in this whole situation, this Doctor did what these families wanted to do, but now the hospital thinks he’s murdered them and now all of a sudden some of them are bringing charges against him for money! So it’s safe to say, money is the root of all evil and the greedy!!!
@@redsassyfox1912 i completely agree!
@@domwang3909 I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU...
@@redsassyfox1912 I BELIVE THAT SOME DOCTORS MAY BE JEALOUS BECAUSE THIS DOCTOR HAS BEEN VOTED TWICE FOR BEING THE BEST...AND ALL THE REST WANTED TO BRING HIM DOWN...AND THAT IS NOT RIGHT!HE WAS NOT KILLING THE PATIENTS...AT THAT POINT HE TRIED HIS BEST TO MAKE THEM WELL...BUT NO MATTER WHAT HE DID,THEY WERE READY TO LEAVE THIS! EARTH
WHY DOES THE JUDGE IS ALWAYS GETTING AFTER THE DEFENSE LAWYERS???
IT IS SO OBVIOUS THAT THIS JUDGE IS ON THE PROSECUTION SIDE!!!
IDON'T THINK HE SHOULD TAKE SIDES...
I STUDIED LAW AND I SEE SO MANY THINGS SO DIFFERENT...I KNOW THAT SOME LAWS KEEP CHANGING, BUT IS THIS ONE OF THEM? AREN'T JUDGES SUPPOSED TO ACT NEUTRAL REGARDING WHAT THEY BELIEVE ...WHEN JUDGING A TRIAL???THIS JUDGE DOESN'T HAVE ANY RESPECT FOR THE DEFENSE!!! my opinion!!!!
The attorney's hate this judge too. They do everything possible to avoid going to sidebar with him.
This judge is clearly blocking the defense from properly cross examining these witnesses. He rolls his eyes and does his facial expressions even before the prosecution objects
I think the Attorney General of Ohio should go in and remove this jackass from the bench and put a judge in a that’s truly impartial.
WHAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH THIS JUDGE...HE IS NOT PLAYING HIS CARDS PROPERLY!!!!
SONG...YOU HIT THE NAIL,
ON THE HEAD!!!
He’s a jerk
Oftentimes making objections himself!!😳
Ugh, this judge! 🤦🏻♀️ Funny how the he can’t rule on the objections by the defense until the prosecution has completely finished the question, but sustains the objections by the prosecution before the defense has a chance to finish their complete question…biased much?!? SMH
This judge is so biased it’s pitiful. He clearly is on the States side and have seen him even object himself. I’m not an attorney but have never see a judge object to cross himself
I can’t believe this judge. Either way he is easy picking on appeal.
Last week, he managed to sustain his own objection at one point…. 😳 I’ve never seen that before!
@@amandasummers7881 it makes it difficult to watch… I have to suspect the jury knows better and feels it too 🤷🏼♀️
@@truth9938 being on soma and openly admitting it! WOW! Can anybody else say IMPAIRED while actually on the bench. As far as I’m concerned muscle relaxant impairment is no different than alcohol or narcotic impaired. I hope he is removed from the bench and Dr. Husel gets a FAIR TRIAL!!!
@@truth9938 I totally see it too! He spaces out a lot! Wow he shouldn’t be in that chair
Clearly so. I am so grateful that this trial is being filmed. I am literally sickened by this dismal, abysmal performance when a man's literal life is on the line.
I can't stand this prosecutor! IMO The Judge is all for the prosecution. You wouldn't know this was a serious Murder trial the way the Judge acts!! 🤬
👌 perfectly said!!
SASSY...YOU ARE SASSY ENOUGH TO BE RIGHT!
It's really not a murder trial, in my opinion. Not sure what it is.
@@amandasummers7881 6
As a Paralegal for 12 years, I have tried keeping up with this trial as much as possible and I am in shock that this Judge hasn't already been removed from the bench immediately and actually during this trial. What I am concerned of his actions is, how many innocent people he has put in Prison.
Agreed! It must be bad if even the average “layperson” (me), thinks this judge is unprofessional, unethical, and should not be on the bench. 🤦🏻♀️
@@jennzimmer8407
Absolutely!! He puts SHAME on our Legal System!!
Travesty of the healthcare system that you can get away with legally drugging and killing people while making thousands of dollars and then go to a biased and flawed justice system full of corrupt judges that just lock up all the wrong people and let rich people get away with murder
Oh lord that’s a scary thought!!! I can’t even imagine the other cases he has done and people have been the demise of his behavior 😳🤦♀️
@@JY-es1et I agree for sure! It’s so ridiculous this trial keeps going with him on the bench!
Tell that Judge to Stop chewing!!! He is dreadful. So so against the defense!!! Please someone take him off the bench. Surely this cannot be allowed in America!!
I'm feeling there is a lot of "nepotism" in this courtroom. The Judge is very one sided totally not giving the defense a chance. If this continues and this doctor is found guilty then his appeal looks good.
Really love this nurse. Outstanding and knowledgeable and extremely caring. I hope he does well in life. Wonderful man
I came here hoping to see that others appreciated him like I did!
He acts like he's on something,🤔🥳
Thee judge,that is.
I couldn’t have said it better myself I was thinking something very similar
This nurse is by far the best witnesses. Very educated you can tell Hua heart was into his job wanted to know everything he could to educate himself. This judge behavior defently needs addressing after this hearing..
Very sad that the hospital and our work places don't support us doctors and nurses. Very good doctor, Husel. Wish I could I knew him and work with him.
Such bias by the judge! The state is on to it. They throw out objections at every question because they know it will most likely be sustained. The nurse is very clever. He totally understands the bias and tailors his answers to have the best chance of getting on the record.
He’s super on top of it! And apparently smart as can be!!!
THIS MALE NURSE KNOWS WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT , VERY CLEAR AND PRECISE WITH HIS ANSWERS, AND DOES NOT STUDDERRR!!
This judge doesn’t even pretend to be impartial. Unbelievable
I haven't noticed it.
Jacob Deemer seems like the kind of nurse anyone would want attending. I appreciate his articulate manner, and I imagine he would have a gentle bed-side manner as well. What you see is what you get...that's my impression.
I swear he is the most biased judge I've ever seen. Should be thrown off that bench. Complete grounds for a mistrial tbh
You should have watched the Theodore Edgecomb trial. I’ve never seen a judge hate the defense more than that.
This judge is bad for sure, but I saw the same thing in the Robert Durst trial if you’ve not seen it, I’d say watch that too, crazy how he acted As well.
Kyle Rittenhouse judge was bias from the start.
@@isisbeck2374 🤦♀️
@@Alina-ci3fb Yes! He was a jerk with the dryest personality.
The male nurse witness with the light blue shirt seems like he knows his stuff, and not happy about what they are putting Dr Husel through
He made some huge mistakes. I’m a nurse who has worked in icu and this is making me cringe .
Totally agree. I love him and I don't know him. He seems to be one of the few caring health care worker. Wish him all the best.
@@hannahschubert3434
What mistakes? Educate me please.
@@hannahschubert3434 SAME!! He is extremely arrogant and trying to sound intelligent.
Hostile witness for the prosecution and good for the defense.
These charges of "murder" are absolutely absurd!! Prosecution has nothing & sound clueless & juvenile
Wow. This was a good day for the Defense, IMO. Idk why the Prosecutors called these witnesses today. They seemed to help the Defense. I say not guilty.
I agree.State has a very weak case.Judge is very unprofessional.
I 100% agree with you!
This nurse became a hostile witness for the prosecution and awesome for the defense.
This judge acts like this is a sitcom and he’s the star of the show. He’s so ridiculous as well as unprofessional and needs to retire.
Agree. Whatever one's views on the case, this is a murder trial; as serious as it gets. The judge seems to think it's a comedy club. A bit of gravitas wouldn't go amiss.
@@geoffpoole483 exactly!
So true!
A horrid, scary fact: He’s already campaigning for re-election in December! 🥺😿
@@LadyAngelaYaYa1966 nooooooo 😩👎🏻that sucks.
If I could I would hire Huesel for bedside of myself and family when we are dying. Embarrassing this trial is even occurring.
This is a hard watch! Not only are they railroading this caring, compassionate doctor but this judge is from another planet the way he carries on! He literally tossed his book down on the bench making it clank off of something else! He is absolutely biased and God forbid the jury isn't paying attention to the clear lack of a case and finds him guilty, at least he will have solid ground for appeal. God be with this man and his family and open the eyes of the jurors to see how innocent of these charges he is.
I totally agree with everybody about this judge, he is totally biased and unprofessional. He is sarcastic and full of himself. How the defence put up with him I don’t know.
I see from comments below that thankfully I’m not the only one. This judge is absolutely unbelievable. It’s actually shocking. So much for a fair trial. WOWWWWW!
This nurse is extremely impressive!
Indeed, he's amazing! His recall is quite unbelievable. And his attitude exemplary. He coiuld easily have done Medicine rather than Nursing. His explanations are fascinating. What a shame his career was disturbed by this unfortunate situation, which was so wrong!
This judge is a joke. I’ve never seen a judge like this in my life. He is clearly bias and it’s clearly obvious.
Why is this doctor being charged with this, isn’t this a waste of time and $$$ it sounds like this doctor was doing his job keeping the patients from being in pain, I watched my mom died of cancer and she was already on a ton of morphine by the time she went to the hospital to die
I agree
Deemer turned in fav of defense.... Bourke turned in fav of defense.... Man, I am just perplexed how a healthcare facility tried to breakdown a good doctor, maliciously defamed his character, and down right accused him of murder of patients that went from 35 to 14 due to a big failure of the system and poor judgement to divert the real issues with law enforcement and other organizations associated with the facility. All those involved from Dr. Husel to all the nurses. pharmacist etc. should bring the biggest lawsuit against Mount Carmel West that no other healthcare facility has ever seen. They hurt the families with lies. Such a devious plot!!!!!
Do you know what benefit it is to Mount Carmel West to defame this doctor? What do they gain from it? Is the facility trying to hide something? Thanks in advance if you have time to answer, I'm so curious to know why this case ever saw the light of day?
Because that’s what hospitals do. They try really hard and do everything they can to come out smelling like a rose and make someone else’s fault. That was pretty clear in their “victim, villain, vindicator” playbook that first came up with.
Totally agree with you. You must have been to the doctor or hospital and know first hand how they make you or your loved one suffers.
@@LouHillierPsych we are on the same page. What a shame that the hospital does not protect these people. I surely would not want to go to that hospital and worse would not worked there.
@@LouHillierPsych no proper protocols were in place for extubation..law suits galore for mount Carmel even the CEO quit and ran.
This is the most unlikable judge I’ve ever seen… not only is he un likable, but his unprofessionalism is a disgrace to the court. Smh, like could this guy show more bias toward the prosecutors.. he actively interrupts and critiques the defense multiple times each witness, sustains the prosecutor objections at all times…. overrules every defense objection,
The most bias, unlikeable, unprofessional judge in the court system probably.
There have been some very good judges presiding over recent trials shown on this channel. Judge Wolfe from Tennessee and the judge presiding over the Arbery trial are two examples. The judge presiding over the Reeves trial was an indecisive ditherer (remember all those sidebars) and then there's this pillock. He seems to think he's at a comedy club. Whatever one thinks of the case, or the attorneyys, someone is on trial for murder. This judge seems to think that's funny.
@@geoffpoole483 agreed! This judge and the one from the Reeves trial are on opposite ends of the “judge spectrum” but both are equally irritating and unprofessional in how they run their courtrooms. 🙄
@@geoffpoole483 y’all should watch the chandler halderson trial. That judge is next level. Best judge ever.
I liked the judge in the Edgecomb trial too
@@geoffpoole483 Totally agree...joking constantly with the Jury, on the record, while preparing to rip the defense attorneys on a sidebar. It’s one thing to try to be friendly with the jurors while remaining professional, but this judge is beyond anything I have ever seen and as everyone has said, absolutely unprofessional! I just can’t with this.
Judge should STEP DOWN!
He is already biased or lazy!
Drug Manufacturer's package inserts are required by the FDA to include chemical composition, recommended use and dosage not just what the RN nurse witnesses stated.
Thank You @law&crimenetwork for getting rid of the obnoxious beep during breaks! Appreciate it!
YES!! THANK YOU! GLAD I WASNT THE ONLY ONE.. I LITERALLY WANTED TO CHUCK MY PHONE AND EARBUDS ACROSS THE ROOM.
@@juliemontandon5352 me too!! It's bad when you are wearing buds!!! Hearing test gone bad! 🤣
Thank goodness for most of the State's doctor and nurse witnesses, because they have done more to back up the innocence of Dr. William Husel than the persecutors ever expected. The fact that the State of Ohio thinks they had a good case here and brought on Dr. Ely as their main backup witness shows that there is something rotten in the State of Ohio. And, the unbelievably horrible and prejudiced behavior on the part of the judge in this trial proves it!
JOSE!!!!!!!!!!!! I love...love him!
I feel the same way…….and after watching Casey Anthony back in the day I could not stand him!!
This judge gets more obnoxious by the day!
Lol 🤣 by the second!!!!!! Lol
Amen
@@ginabrown4463 yes! Amen again lol
I agree with everyone, this judge clearly is on the states side or dislikes this attorney very much. Either way he should be removed from the bench. It's all good grounds for an appeal though. Someone said he was taking soma. That's mind altering.
I never heard of Soma. Time to research.
Well that makes more sense of his slow slurred speech- such as Mmmkkkkkkkk folks get to know each other! 🤨 like wow 😳 can we say mistrial or disbarred ladies and gents
@@redsassyfox1912 I believe judge partakes of "substances ".
@@theresesink1057 I agree! Maybe a lot of them lol
his eyes definitely look super heavy lol 😂 soma coma 😳😳
I want to not detest Judge Holbrook, because it makes it hard to watch this trial. But I can’t help it, UmKay? Every day I have more issues with him, and his unprofessionalism. 🤮🤢 I mix a Pepto cocktail, before I hear his voice now.
Makes me puke too. And calling the jury “guys” sounds degrading. I use it all the time, but not if I was in a courtroom talking to jurors. He is gross.
The Death penalty needs to return NOW!!! 💯
Ooooookkkkkaaaay
@@1965radster what for the judge?
Angela
You me and every person on here feels the same way so far! Idk how he is still on this bench honestly! He should be gone!
Could someone advise me as I live in UK can defense refuse to work with a judge?? As someone as rightly said this is such a serious trial and can't believe thus judge is still there. The defense attorney is so brilliant and has such charisma and beautiful speaking voice. Maybe there is jealousy
The defense attorney is the highest paid attorney in America. If I was dying I would not want to be in pain.
@@bbe3034 I hope he is successful. My heart breaks for Dr Husel. How would you survive going through a trial like this?
Absolutely he’s jealous it’s so obvious I think, he used to be a lawyer himself, but Baez is well known for his case with Casey Anthony that was kind of a circus too, and he has lots of extra media following him so he don’t like that I’m sure either. He probably thinks the media should be following him around, lol 😆 either way I can’t stand him!
Enough with the zoom witnesses. A man's life is at stake. Get these witnesses on the stand.
Totally agree. Until some of these people go there.
The judge needs to uncross his arms. It gives an awful impression of his profession.
Exceptional young man as a witness. I can only hope I have someone as realistic about the situation and knowledgeable and logical and very compassionate when it comes to any of my family members or myself being in need of palliative care. He held his own against the prosecution and despite all the interruptions and cross blocking that the Judge did he managed to get his point across and didnt stray from his truth or try to pass the buck on to someone else. If I was defense I would call him back as my witness and let him talk non stop and uninterrupted about all of his beliefs and feelings and knowledge just like the prosecution's witnesses are allowed to do.... oh but wait.. this Team Prosecution Judge would NEVER allow that from the defense in their chief or anytime!!
Why is this witness constantly asked questions out of his scope and not many objections? He is loving being able to play doctor.
I totally agree with you.
I don’t think he is playing doctor at all. Nurses don’t just wipe butts you know, most are very intelligent and know there stuff!
They are grasping for straws with him in my book, meaning they have to get the answers they want and need from someone and he’s very intelligent so they hope he will give them the answers
@@lolohotdog1884
You are sure right, most of them are real about what they do; advocate and help shape patients' care.
4:37:17. Judge is rude, harsh, and unfair to the nurse as he was trying to answer the question. He is not a “professional expert witness” and not used to the rules of court. The judge is horrendous and I will never watch another trial with him presiding. 😡
I used to be a Court Clerk. A couple days into the job I stepped into the court in front of one our kindest Commissioners. All he said was, “Pardon, me”. Good guy.
TRISH...GOOD, I HOPE THEY LISTEN...BECAUSE IT SEEMED TO ME THAT WHEN DEFENSE HAD THE FLOOR THE JUDGE ALWAY INTERRUPTED BY ASKING FOR A BREAK...THIS JUDGE SHOULD NOT HAVE GOTTEN HIS WAY! HE IS NOT ABOVE THE LAW!!!!!!!
There is something about the judge that reminds me of jack nicholson.
A very drunk or drugged jack nicholson
I can see why you would think that
Did he say 10 mg of versed and 10 or dilaudid???? This is malpractice at its best. Unreal. My jaw just continues to drop, how did no one stop this?
Lolo, How so? These are 2 different drugs and very often used for conscious sedation..Sometimes needed in higher doses side by side.
@@deborahwright510 not at those doses. 10 mg of each??
@@LoLo-zr7bk It depends..🧐There is a lot to consider when calculating the dose. 😔
@@deborahwright510 not for those specific doses without a protected airway. There’s a reason those patients are now dead
@LoLo yes because they were dying, which normally makes you dead afterwards. Only difference is they didn't feel the same pain as other people are forced to apparently. There are many many reasons people can need much higher doses. One of those is tolerance and you cannot say what is appropriate for them without being there.
why doesnt jose bias lawyer call in respiratory therapist to testify ventilator pts have been meds when they are dying. i asked my family doctors to help my loved ones to stop their suffering. i was Respiratory Therapist for 30 years.
I like people who understand.
Not even joking…this judge needs a drug test. Sleepy eyes, slurred speech, slow reaction times…etc. He’s on something.
Yesterday or day before supposedly he told the courtroom he is on Somas and if you don’t know what that is, well it’s a strong sedative sleeping pill pretty much a strong one! So his dazed confused looks have a reason behind apparently lol
I also find it odd that he would announce that information to the courtroom to start with! Like why not keep that to yourself and find a new judge to step in
He said to everyone in front of the camera a couple different times he’s on muscle relaxers and other medication! He said he might need a different chair to keep him awake because his meds are making him sleepy! This whole trial is a circus and the judge is too high to notice!
I wish I was on tis jury. I will never avoid or delay Jury service again for the rest of my life. This trial has changed me. In a good, responsible way. I am grateful for that.
The judge needs a drug test ASAP
This judge is a joke. 😤
Defense where is your objection for hearsay regarding this nurses stating " that was Dr Hussels words"
Statements made by a defendant are never hearsay, as a rule, if they are offered by the opposing party (I.e., the prosecution). They’re called “admissions by a party opponent” (even if the statement doesn’t seem like an “admission” in the generic sense of the word).
A statement made by a party can only be considered hearsay if it is being offered by that same party in a self-serving manner. So basically, under the rules of evidence, nothing the defendant has ever said is hearsay if it’s being offered by the prosecution. A defendant’s statement might still be objectionable on some other grounds (like relevance, for example), but not hearsay.
What would be the point? They can't get the whole word "objection" before the judge says "overruled" or better yet "I'll give it to him"
@@christyg3013 😂
What kind of drugs is this judge smoking, look at those eyes
So sad the way we see people.
Soma
Soma can be used for sleeping
@@redsassyfox1912 muscle relaxer
Love you Law & Crime!💕👍
it is so hard to watch this judge...everything about him is disgusting
I’m not even kidding but this judge looks like he’s been drinking….
He’s loaded on Soma.
He’s on somas sleeping pills like highly sedated
He slurs his words often.
This isn't Just the Judge. This Full on PROSECUTORS MIS CONDUCT, SUE THEM ALL WHEN OVER WITH!
This judge is awful. I’m not a Baez fan but he just can’t seem to do anything right 🙄
I don’t believe Beaz isn’t looking for fans, he has some happy clients under his belt
The judge wants to make sure he is the center of attention instead of Baez.
@@christyg3013 so well said! That is exactly what this judges problem is
Right? I went into this thinking , ugh - idk if I’ll be able to take Baez’ bs- having watched the Casey Anthony trial back in the day and I now feel sorry for him!! Complete 180! I have whiplash ffs!
Is there a shortage of judges, good judges, so they keep judges like these around? I’m so glad that RUclips is filming these trials now, perhaps that’s been the problem, the public wasn’t allowed to see what’s been going on in these trials and with these judges!! Changes NEED to be made!!😤
I'm so glad they found him innocent, this whole thing was done to keep the hospital pharmacy from being sued.
I'm pretty sure I wouldn't want Nurse Jacob caring for me or anyone I know 😕
Why is that?
What about nurse Jacob that you would not want him taking care of you?
Well you must not know what good care is, because this guy is on top of it! Very well educated!
Anyone know what happened to the live coverage of this trial? Did it get the boot for the Billy Ray trial?
This young man is a prosecutors nightmare 😅 hes very matter of fact and believable when stating the facts!
Since when does a nurse have a "practice"?
He meant ''his work''. In my practice = when I am working or what I experience.
Agree.
Said the same thing.
He gave him an 8/10 pain level and listed the reasons, none of them meant the patient was in pain. Patients show non verbal pain cues, and is how pain should be assessed. The patient stopped breathing because they overdosed with narcotics. Both are guilty
29:00 judge tells Baez “relax” 😂😂
He is off his meds again
@@tmcurly lmao 😂
Oh don’t worry he says reeelllaaaaxxxxx about 5 to 10 times per day! So unprofessional
The judge is over medicated and unruly.
I am a retired nurse ( 36 years service) and my last 10 years wes,,,,,re Hospice. Unfortunately I HAVE known of many, many patients being overdosed to their death, by nurses doing careless assessments of their status/needwhen it was NOT indicated to give those heavy frequent meds. I had a close family member that went to her death before time as the family followed a nurse's suggestions and medicated her heavily. My practice was always to treat the symptoms,,,, not blindly just give meds to make the patient comatose. Many nurses DO medicate without properly assessing the patient and allowing meds to work . Also I have seen some family members want them medicated to a coma state,,,,, feeling they were less disruptive to their lives. Another point was if it appears the patient needs a lot of opioid meds, they found it easy to grab a number for themselves! Some heartless things occurred and it occurs even in big hospitals. I believe wholeheartedly he overmedicated most of these patients and caused their death to come sooner. I also feel ethically that any patient should only receive NECESSARY , not elephant dosing . Illness IS very sad,,,,, but euthanasia should be the choice of the patient.
People deserve to be medicated for pain. I've seen more patients in distress because nurses and doctors are too afraid to medicate appropriately (because of reasons like you're seeing here) than the other way around.
Thank you for saying the truth.
@@pons3050 except it's not the truth. Not by a long shot.
Well I can only hope i get a doctor like Huesel when I’m dying. He is a hero and compassionate. We need more like him. These people were DYING!
I would be afraid to have you take care of myself or a family member. Terrified actually. I pray I do not end up with someone like you at EOL. One of my worst fears.
This gum chewing arrogant judge is, in my view, far from professional and highly biased. He is very disparaging to others (including Baez but also to witnesses such as the doctor he interrupted yesterday with his hard "stop doc, stop"). Furthermore, he apparently likes himself and his silly humor. Unfortunately, others also laugh about it as farmers who have a toothache. It is unbelievable that this man is conducting such an important cause.
And his constant “relax” to attorneys and witnesses. ARRRGGGGGHHHHH!
@@roadiern Agree. And the "hi guys, keyyy etc.
This Dr is a hero IMO
At 4:32….blue shirt nurse doesn’t known what the D is for in COPD😱
😱😱😱😱😱
It happens. Wait until you get there, hope you never do because in such case you can forget your own name.
Just said the same thing but he thinks he’s a doctor with “his practice.”
@@maryvanderveer8362 cut him some slack he’s fairly new. Everyone is like this at first. He’s proud of himself. 😂
He’s nervous. Totally normal.
This Judge needs to take a good look at himself, he's 1 of the worst biased I've seen
Oh yeah, the judge is clearly biased and I hope the defence reports him for it . I just don’t understand how judges get away with this crap!
The first witness, Nurse Deemer, appeared to be an arrogant narcissist in his prepared testimony. He’s acting as if his training should’ve been more than any other’s. (Like he’s special) If he’d never worked as a nurse in any hospital, how can he compare his orientation process.
Ohio must be really hurting for judges if they allowed a clown like this in.
I just switched over full time here. Has anyone observed that the judge seems high or drunk? Maybe just old but seems “off”
Judge is off his meds!!!!
Problem is he's on meds and probably a lot!
Is it normal for this guy to stand in front of the jury during sidebars ? Looks like he’s talking to the jury
I think that’s his job to bring in the jurors etc., his name is David (I think). I’ve never seen that happen before either though.
@@river8760 yeah it looks like David’s job is to amuse the jury during the sidebars. ABSOLUTELY BIZARRE COURT ROOM!!!!
@@roadiern omg it’s a complete shitshow! The Judge is so awful.
@@river8760 totally is for sure! I’d be plum embarrassed to say I worked for that judge
@lawandcrime will y’all be covering Billy ray turner trial?
I am. What do you think?
Jacob is my favorite witness so far. Seems credible & honest about the “big wigs” & how he was treated by the hospital. That judge is unprofessional & comes across as picking on Biaez just constantly getting all over the defense
Don't think this Judge is being fair I feel he 1 sided and sticking to that he should never have an opinion
I know in Hospice they keep them sedated enough so they are not aware
Is the judge suppose to help the prosecutor? I think this doctor was so liked other doctors complained. The hospital is throwing him under the bus. Cancel culture
Big pharmacy is to blame as well.
Kayyyyy??? This judge is so irritating.
I feel like the judge allowed dr Ely (the quack) to go on tangents when he was supposed to just answer yes or no but with Jacob (the nurse) the judge is enforcing the “yes, no” answering of questions. I found the judge to be a little biased but that’s typical in the trials I’ve watched.
Why does it look like the witness repeatedly looks at the defendant?
Because they support him, probably!
Because he know him.
This nurse is the defenses dream. He’s sticking up for the doctor.
Is it just me or does David Zeyen sound like Juan Martinez? For a moment I thought I was watching the Jodi Arias trial.
I actually thought the exact same thing when I first heard him! I would love to see Martinez and Baez go head to head!
Are the 2 young women in the back for the state twins???
This witness and Grant Amato have same career ambitions.
He is drunk lmao... I would bet the judge has something better than coffee in that mug of his lmao
The judge is so bias for the prosecution
The RN dude was a great witness.
This dude has an very I forgot actually what it's called but he has that need to impress people. There's a word for it and right now it's escaping me but this guy definitely has it he feels a need to impress people he has to do it
This nurse is extremely nervous.
He is over explaining his position and knowledge.
He is the type of nurse that wants all procedures explained numerous times.
He has every right to.
To be in his shoes during all the investigations he has been through I think this nurse has presented well.
@@janewaterfield648 I kind of wondered if he might be slightly autistic or OCD because they like to double check and check again everything idk I’ve seen this type of speaking mannerisms and eye movements with twitching his tie before but I could be wrong, but the dude seems very intelligent to me, I just think he don’t agree with the way Dr Husel is being done
This is an extremely serious case brought on by the state against Dr.Hussel!!!!! The judge however thinks it’s his comedy show! He’s not at all amusing, and this case IS NOT at all funny! What a pain in the a** this judge is 🤦♀️🤦♀️
The bottom line here in this, did he over step as a dr. Did he do this on purpose??
I think this doctor did what he could to help the patient and their families. He had nothing to gain killing these patients unless he has a funeral home or know someone close to him with one, and they all went to that funeral home.
These were critically ill patients that were dying
Is it possible to murder someone who is dying? 🤷🏻♀️
@@sixthsenseamelia4695
I think so; just my opinion.
@@May-wv6ew I s'pose its possible, if the person who is terminally ill wanted to see life out till the end. I've not really thought about it before? 🤷🏻♀️
At hour and minute 2:15 You and Dr. Husel basically played God and EUTHANIZED him⁉️⁉️⁉️⁉️⁉️⁉️⁉️⁉️
Are you serious? Have you been in pain and gone to the hospital? Then I may agree with you.
Exactly! His RASS was “-3 or -4” and he says his pain score is 8. Okkkaay! Let me give a massive dose of narcotics
Don't think this judge should be sitting on this case...his attitude stinks.
He is a bright young man but he comes across kinda sketchy hahaha