What New Zealand needs is a pocket Fighter like the South Korean F/A-50 Golden Eagles, Italian M-346FA or the BAE Advanced Hawk. It would give them a pocket fighter to protect their Sovereignty.
There's no direct threat to New Zealand sovereignty right now, and our alliances with Australia and the US mean that the cost of fighter aircraft would not be justified, which is a shame because I would have loved to have seen the RNZAF roundel on an F-16 (which New Zealand was intending to buy before 2002)
@@acreepykiwi6788 The F-16 deal NZ had was really good as it was a heavily discounted deal on aircraft, parts, training etc as the original deal fell through. Then we had Helen Clark saying at the time (im old enough to remember) that NZ doesn't need Jet aircraft because they only have one purpose, so instead she opted that we should go for attack helicopters that also never happened. We currently have zero ability to stop a civilian aircraft being used as a weapon let alone one of a more military nature.
@@acreepykiwi6788 My dream is that we get all the Harriers everyone is throwing away and then for a carrier we only need a retrofitted cargo container ship. I mean how kiwi is that lol
New Zealand should buy some new Gripen fighter jets or maybe buy some of the old F-18's from Australia. Norway has some 40 year old F-16's on offer if they are interested. The Norwegian F-16's hvae gotten Midlife uppdates and has flown both in Norway but also missions in the WARs in former Jugoslavia, Afghanistan and Libya.
They could have had 25 f16s for 140 million. It was a steal a deal sale of the fkn century. Thanks to Helen Clark our best pilots left and skills went with them.
Well if NZ ever gets confronted by a threat where they're flying Cessna 185's, you guys should come out on top. Seriously jk . Nothing but love and respect for New Zealand.
The US has the most powerful air force on the planet which it literally spends $billions every single year and all their fancy jets didn't mean squat on September 11 2001...
Numbers wise yes. But tech wise, fk no. Bet they didn't envisage fly by wire, hands of controls, integrated heads up displays, Infrared heat detection ,all weather flying and mostly automated ships and planes. Our military is a modern one, bet they also didn't invisage supersonic missiles or electronic decoy systems and countermeasures our helicopters, and P8, Frigates use.☺In peacetime every nation disarmed, Britain cut their forces considerably.
@@justinearcher isn't really much of a priority considering we mainly do peacekeeping stuff, not like we're doing dogfights with other jets or having to do air strikes.
There are no fighter jets in New Zealand Air Force. It means nobody can become a fighter pilot in New Zealand. These Texan aircrafts are just for training.The only planes New Zealand Air Force has are either transport or maritime patrol aircrafts.
what happened with those F-16s we were meant to get. you dudes got rid of the A-4 Skyhawks so what are we gonna do just shove a C-130J or P-8A up their rear end to scare them off
I was in the Air Training Corps at Cambridge High School in 1963. Chas Moroney was our CO. I was only 13 and absolutely loved it. We got to go fly in some bi ole tin-a RNZAF Bristol Freighter from Rukahia Airfield in Hamilton. On takeoff, I spied these paper bags behind the seats . . . and that is where my head spent most of the flight. Man o man did I get airsick. But luckily not everytime I was in an airplane or helicopter. Unfortunately they canned the ATC the following year. What a darned shame.
@RayFire Yes in case of World War 3 scenario or if there is possibility of World War then New Zealand should buy fighter jets and other military equipments
@@stealthtomcat4739The possibilty of world war is getting higher and higher every day. Russia is invading ukraine and seems like they wont stop there, china and north Korea becoming a bigger threat In the pacific. When we retired the jets in 2001 it made sense but now its time to bring them back
The original T-6Cs are called Harvards, the aircraft in this video is the T-6C Texan II - the 2nd type. There are still Harvards flying at Ardmore Aerodrome though.
All these guys saying NZ "needs" jets, yet cannot come up with why NZ actually needs jets🤦♂️ I've seen better excuses at the movies, better plots as well.
@@matthewdudael1931 20+ years since the clapped out skyhawks have been gone and 20+ years before that they were never used operationally once, not once, unless of course you consider firing across the bow of a fishing boat an operation or better still a justification of the $$$million capability chewing up vital defence funding on a "just in case"? Just in case what?? 2 fishing boats do the same thing??? The "grown ups" are living in the past, literally! time to actually grow up. Keep talking though hero, it seems to be working a treat....see you in another 20+ years.
@@imza5535 still tens of $millions for years, rather than hundreds, out of an already tight budget not including constant and consistant upgrades to keep relevant, weapons, systems, rising fuel, personnel wages etc etc and again, for what? And TBH we have no govt (none of them) that would actually commit them to any operational conflict anyway (jets bomb things...) so they would literally just fly laps of NZ, fly airshows and do the odd ex here and there, much like the old jets🤷♂️ Not exactly value for money if we are not going to use for its intended purpose and literally have for show.
with trainers like these we need some fighters so they have something to train for
Love watching these practise around Palmy.
What New Zealand needs is a pocket Fighter like the South Korean F/A-50 Golden Eagles, Italian M-346FA or the BAE Advanced Hawk. It would give them a pocket fighter to protect their Sovereignty.
There's no direct threat to New Zealand sovereignty right now, and our alliances with Australia and the US mean that the cost of fighter aircraft would not be justified, which is a shame because I would have loved to have seen the RNZAF roundel on an F-16 (which New Zealand was intending to buy before 2002)
@@acreepykiwi6788 The F-16 deal NZ had was really good as it was a heavily discounted deal on aircraft, parts, training etc as the original deal fell through. Then we had Helen Clark saying at the time (im old enough to remember) that NZ doesn't need Jet aircraft because they only have one purpose, so instead she opted that we should go for attack helicopters that also never happened.
We currently have zero ability to stop a civilian aircraft being used as a weapon let alone one of a more military nature.
@@Tekagi502 Imagine having an Air Force where the combat aircraft don't fly but hover
@@acreepykiwi6788 My dream is that we get all the Harriers everyone is throwing away and then for a carrier we only need a retrofitted cargo container ship. I mean how kiwi is that lol
@@Tekagi502 That would be so good, then we would have one more carrier than Australia
New Zealand should buy some new Gripen fighter jets or maybe buy some of the old F-18's from Australia. Norway has some 40 year old F-16's on offer if they are interested. The Norwegian F-16's hvae gotten Midlife uppdates and has flown both in Norway but also missions in the WARs in former Jugoslavia, Afghanistan and Libya.
Really cool. Thank for sharing.
They could have had 25 f16s for 140 million. It was a steal a deal sale of the fkn century. Thanks to Helen Clark our best pilots left and skills went with them.
This was clearly an act of treason and she should be held accountable
True meaning of a kiwi... A flightless bird
Seems Legit, Would Only Be More Legit If We Have F/A-18's Or F16's.
Well if NZ ever gets confronted by a threat where they're flying Cessna 185's, you guys should come out on top. Seriously jk . Nothing but love and respect for New Zealand.
Bro our main defense is hoping that we're to pretty to be bombed
The US has the most powerful air force on the planet which it literally spends $billions every single year and all their fancy jets didn't mean squat on September 11 2001...
Superb video ! Excellent young pilot ! Best wishes .
Awesome mate.👍🇳🇿
Very cool
Everyone band together to buy the NZAF some F18 super hornets and F35Cs
Why Cs we don’t have any carriers lol, As and Bs would be better
Good shit
Cool, but sadly NZ had a better air force during WWII.
Numbers wise yes. But tech wise, fk no. Bet they didn't envisage fly by wire, hands of controls, integrated heads up displays, Infrared heat detection ,all weather flying and mostly automated ships and planes. Our military is a modern one, bet they also didn't invisage supersonic missiles or electronic decoy systems and countermeasures our helicopters, and P8, Frigates use.☺In peacetime every nation disarmed, Britain cut their forces considerably.
@@snapdragon9300 i mean ww2 rnzaf would beat our rnzaf now lmao
@@snapdragon9300 pretty sure it would only take one single WW2 spitfire sqn to destroy the RNZAF........
The nzaf did have modernized skyhawks but were removed therefore removing all combat capability. They do maritime patrol, vip transport and cargo
And also cold war
Cool, though I'm sure you'd prefer an F16?
Nz needs some actual fighter jets..
Maori ByNature We don’t really...
Too small of a country to afford those types of stuff.
We could afford a few but nz doesn’t spend much money on the defence force
@@justinearcher isn't really much of a priority considering we mainly do peacekeeping stuff, not like we're doing dogfights with other jets or having to do air strikes.
@Joey Nolan Well it's obviously a problem but there's no demand and jets are expensive as and it'd poke a fat hole in the defense budget
There are no fighter jets in New Zealand Air Force. It means nobody can become a fighter pilot in New Zealand. These Texan aircrafts are just for training.The only planes New Zealand Air Force has are either transport or maritime patrol aircrafts.
Please buy fighter jets as it will do great for keeping the country safe
what happened with those F-16s we were meant to get. you dudes got rid of the A-4 Skyhawks so what are we gonna do just shove a C-130J or P-8A up their rear end to scare them off
Im only 8 and I want to join the NZ air cadets
Air cadets is such an awesome opportunity absolutely sign up if you want to mate!!!!
go ahead an do it. im a cadet myself and its probably one of the best things a young person can do
I was in the Air Training Corps at Cambridge High School in 1963. Chas Moroney was our CO. I was only 13 and absolutely loved it. We got to go fly in some bi ole tin-a RNZAF Bristol Freighter from Rukahia Airfield in Hamilton. On takeoff, I spied these paper bags behind the seats . . . and that is where my head spent most of the flight. Man o man did I get airsick. But luckily not everytime I was in an airplane or helicopter. Unfortunately they canned the ATC the following year. What a darned shame.
Is hard to become Pilot in RNZAF and a Texans Pilot.
Please don't try and pass these off as cool. Its tragic that's what it is
You're delusional
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Air Force? More like army transport and government taxi service
In other words New Zealand have most peaceful Air Force with not a single fighter jet at all
@RayFire No it's actually good now nobody has to worry about being a fighter pilot in New Zealand
@RayFire Yes in case of World War 3 scenario or if there is possibility of World War then New Zealand should buy fighter jets and other military equipments
@@stealthtomcat4739The possibilty of world war is getting higher and higher every day. Russia is invading ukraine and seems like they wont stop there, china and north Korea becoming a bigger threat In the pacific. When we retired the jets in 2001 it made sense but now its time to bring them back
@@henrydando Which jets
So low and slow only a man with a big stone can knock it down
Ah, the T-6C Texan By Beechcraft. Loved by low budget movie producers when they ain’t got cash to rent a real jet fighter.
Why do you call them Texans, and not Harvards?
The original T-6Cs are called Harvards, the aircraft in this video is the T-6C Texan II - the 2nd type. There are still Harvards flying at Ardmore Aerodrome though.
Ha, ghey!!!!
Your mom ghey
Our airforce is a joke
Seriously get a real job this is not an air force at all
All these guys saying NZ "needs" jets, yet cannot come up with why NZ actually needs jets🤦♂️ I've seen better excuses at the movies, better plots as well.
I should feel sorry for you and Helen Clark being so naive but I don't ~ hush now and leave the comments to grownups
@@matthewdudael1931 20+ years since the clapped out skyhawks have been gone and 20+ years before that they were never used operationally once, not once, unless of course you consider firing across the bow of a fishing boat an operation or better still a justification of the $$$million capability chewing up vital defence funding on a "just in case"? Just in case what?? 2 fishing boats do the same thing??? The "grown ups" are living in the past, literally! time to actually grow up. Keep talking though hero, it seems to be working a treat....see you in another 20+ years.
Those 20 or so f16s were such a steal tho. I dont think a deal like that would be a thing in the next 100 years
@@imza5535 still tens of $millions for years, rather than hundreds, out of an already tight budget not including constant and consistant upgrades to keep relevant, weapons, systems, rising fuel, personnel wages etc etc and again, for what? And TBH we have no govt (none of them) that would actually commit them to any operational conflict anyway (jets bomb things...) so they would literally just fly laps of NZ, fly airshows and do the odd ex here and there, much like the old jets🤷♂️ Not exactly value for money if we are not going to use for its intended purpose and literally have for show.
@@imza5535 Yeah it was 20 right? we could've made a squadron or two of F-16's and keep the rest for parts, we could keep em running for ages.