PART 2! Get to Know Stellantis - Top Vehicles Sold By Each Brand (Jeep, Maserati, Opel, Peugeot, ++)
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- Опубликовано: 12 авг 2020
- Today we look at the merger between FCA and Groupe PSA, otherwise known as Stellantis. This merger includes 14 brands: Abarth, Alfa Romeo, Chrysler, Citroën, Dodge, DS, Fiat, Jeep, Lancia, Maserati, Opel, Peugeot, Ram and Vauxhall. We will cover the second 7 brands today. For each we will check out the various models, the top vehicle sold by each, and the overall sales and market share both in the US and Europe. I thought this would be an interesting way to get to know some of the brands from PSA and also check out how FCA is doing as well.
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I feel like someone from Europe should do these videos over from their perspective. You provide so much good data but I feel like Americans sometimes struggle with understanding the European market. Small cars are booming here, petrol is expensive and so is owning a car. You don’t need a gas guzzling V8 when you’re commuting to and from work. We also don’t have giant asphalt fields to park here, things are different. Keep that in mind and keep up the good work!
and American are overproud on their v8 and calling 4,5 meters cars compact.
Absolutely that would be cool. Unfortunately our way of life with respect to vehicles is just different. My Italian cousins told me “North America is full of extremely wide roads and huge trucks” when I went there to visit so that kind of opened my eyes a bit as to how we view each respective place. Here SUVs and trucks are booming and gas has been relatively the same cost with fluctuations over the past while and I know it’s way cheaper than overseas. Our roads are simply more conducive to bigger vehicles so it’s not really an issue, but I remember driving around in France in 2018 and I feel that my Charger just couldn’t survive the parking and tight quarters 😂 But some people do cherish their cars and even if it’s just point A to point B, I’ve noticed many want to have that fun or nice looking car just to put a smile on their own faces (myself included).
Ok ! We will keep our big gas guzzling monster V8s over here! And you guys keep your little shitboxes over there! Lol!
@@michaelcuff5780 lovely how you can't converse with an american without being insulted.. I wonder why everybody hates you guys.
Actually America leads the way in electric cars (Tesla) and Europe has it's fair share of big gas guzzling V8's (AMG's, M's, RS's). Great video!
Maserati and Citroen finaly together.
*SM FLASHBACKS*
... again
Yeah it was a great story. Now it’s a much bigger one I guess
We dont need that crap in this country
Riste Kostadinov
For the first time since 1974
The facts for Opel are not completely correct. Already in the fall of last year, the Cascada, Karl, Zafira and Adam models were taken out of production. Only two models remain on the old GM platform : the Astra and Insignia which will be replaced by new models based on a PSA platform.
Correct! Also I think Chrysler bring in the Insignia, 508 and americanise it and make it luxurious, they sell the 308 or Astra and make it a bit more premium than a Corolla like a Mazda 3, Dodge take the PSA Astra when that comes out and sell it as your neon/dart with a OPC version with like 300hp and 420nm of torque and PHEV, Chrysler take the 3008 and 5008 and americanise it and sell it or take the Stelvio and Tonale and sell them as Chrysler’s, and Dodge to replace the Journey could bring in the 5008 and sell a fast PHEV
@@patrickbateman6885 The moneymaker of this all is that a universal platform can be adjusted for local markets.
A car that has to operate in the south Americas on bad roads has different needs then the same plaform used on the smooth German high speed Autobahns.
It they do it right and listen to the locals who sell and use the cars you have a win win situation.
The tooling of the standarised platforms will be universal but only the local requierments and customer needs differ.
A insignia estate adjusted to the US needs under the Chrysler badge would be a great car when ist reliable.
All brands from the stellatlantis group CAN build and are known to build reliable cars and sometimes fubar big in models.
reliability, practicality and cost of ownership is the most important for the modern commen carbuyer who uses and sees his car more and more like a home appliance.
The Dodge Ram for example is very popular in Europe due to the Diesel scandal and inner citiesban of Diesels.
They are mostly used as commercial vehicels for towing trailers.
They are converted to run on LPG or LNG due to the high petrol prices in Europe.
Roughly the price of petrol is a pint/quart (depending on the country )for the price of a gallon in the US
LPG and LNG are way cheaper and cleaner fuels so they are taxed lower.
Time will tell if Stellatlantis folows the fast GM way (maximum profit for the shareholder) or the slow less proftiable but more long time durability sustainability customersatisfaction path.
My cousin had a 1968 Opel Kadette in 1972 looked like a minature Chevy Nova
Hey, I found your channel with the Part 1 of this series and have been waiting for Part 2! We own Jeeps and my grandparents own a Town & Country.
Love your vids!!!
8:35 interior shot is of an Irish-spec Corsa (right-hand drive, Opel branded).
Awesome video marspeed
I just watch part 1 and part 2 came out on the same day, thats what I call timing my guy
In order for PSA to sell Opels and Peugeots in the U.S and Canada, they need to style the vehicles uniquely as the Opel looks like a hastily badged Buicks, and they would need powerful engines as U.S consumers are obsessed with 0 to 60 mph times.
Opel has started a new style with their visor grill as can be seen on the 2020 Opel Mokka
Electric and Hybride r best in 0 to 60 mph :))
Nice video! The Cherokee is also sold in France :)
It would be nice if the 308 GTI came to the US
A friend of mine just bought a new 308 station wagon with 8speed automatic. Drives like a dream and very original/attractive dashboard! Greetings from Belgium.
I'm wanting an E-208, hopefully it makes it over with Peugeot.
The 508 is not bad either
As a matter of fact, they slot the mid to large saloon (308 & up) as well as the SUV line up to Chrysler and move the brand more upmarket.
Let Dodge be the traditional America car brand.
208 first gen is not actually a first gen of THIS car. Peugeot used to Name cafe with different Numbers, so the first gen of 2020 peugeot was 205 then 206, 207 and 208. They realised that there are no more Numbers left so from now on they Name all of the cars with 8 in the back
They stick to 208 because VW sticks to Golf and Polo since the 1970s. Not changing the name simplifies the visualisation of what type of car it is for the least-informed customers.
Another reason is because Chinese think 8 gives luck.
The ongoing mergers of struggling brands does not project strength and reliability to the buying public. A strong warranty and great customer / dealer service must be put in place to facilitate and motivate buyers to give these associated vehicles a shot over the current strong reliable brands.
This is good stuff! We need to know how this merger will turn out and how it will impact the American brands we know now. Hopefully the new company will recognize the unique aspects of the US market and not try marketing mini cars here again.
It would be nice if they made some of the models Chryslers
Maserati has the best sounding name
Only one Maserati dealer in the state I live in and I just refer to Maserati as the trashy Ferrari sibling
I like Dodge or Mopar better
So do you have a focus on Stellantis vehicles now or remaining old FCA?
Nope definitely not still focusing on the old FCA especially until the merger is completed. I just wanted to talk about the merger and check out the PSA brands for some new content but that won’t be the norm!
What do you think will be provided in the US and Canada? Will any car in Peugeot's lineup come over here?
Just the name of this one makes me want to throw up.
I see the Opel and Vauxhall models were sold here as Buicks.
Some of them. The Opel Karl/Vauxhall Viva is the Chevy Spark, and the Ampera-e is a Chevy Bolt; both are based on platforms developed by GM Korea (formerly Daewoo) and the Bolt's powertrain was developed at the GM mothership in Detroit.
A real bisexual petrol-head dude you’re a fucking moron. GM was in Europe before the depression. They bought Vauxhall in 1925 and Opel in 1931 and Saab in 1989. Long before your magical pulled out of your ass 2005 date.
@@brycmtthw Chevrolet and Cadillac (re)launched in Europe in '05. ARBPH is a little off on his details, not a "moron" any of that.
Opel were sold by Buick dealers back in the late 1960's and the 70's, The old Opel GT's were kind of cool back then.
I remember that.
I’m gonna need the hex color code for that purple in the thumbnail my G
I forgot the Buick/Opel Cascada exists
Some Buick dealers in US may still have untitled copies of that Polish-made small (Astra / Cruze-based) convertible for sale...
Stellantis just announced to Lancia will be part of the 'premium brands' group with DS and Alfa Romeo (Maserati is still a step up), under a new ceo. Lancia used to be a luxury brand with a fabled rally history, so now there is hope that Stellantis will revive it.
Possibly, since Group PSA did turn a HUGE profit for Opel and Vauxhall after decades of loss under GM.
that's some good news :) , i always tought fiat wanted to '''destroy'' the once great lancia... i don't even mind that it would be a premium brand
i just hope with ''premium'' they could bring back the delta ( hopefuilly looking like the og integrale , if so i'm buyin one) as a direct competetor to other hothatches like the golf gti etc , and maybe get into rallying again to
also , they could bring back a rear ( or mid) engined rwd sportscar like the 037
For Vauxhall try pronouncing it without the “H” it sounds nicer and seems easier to say (at least to me).
I mean most of his pronunciation is pretty off.
Also, the "e" is silent in Opel.
@@nlpnt No one in Europe says "Opl"
A real bisexual petrol-head you’re a fucking moron. The dudes a Canadian. Gtfo with that “iM eUrOpEaN sO iM sUpErIoR” attitude.
brycmtthw I’m American, I’ve just watched some top gear which is where I got that pronunciation from.
Are any of these reliable or have a reliable reputation. I was looking for grand Cherokees from the previous generation and the new and all were disappointing in quality.
Peugeots and Opels are rather good.
Opel is a very reliable and comfortable car compared to Volkswagen, more comfortable
Interesting great cars that I can not afford
New 2 plateformes for American brands, EMP2 PSA and Gorgio FCA
Lancia is like a legendary family lineage that have accomplished many great things but have since been reduced to one person to bear that name that so many people revered and respected but now are hardly talked about unless by historians.
Reason Ram is the best FCA Brand is because of the Cummins Engine! Very reliable Diesel engine. Thought I Stil like a 12V 5.9 better
I want to know when can I purchase a brand new Peugeot
4:07 who knew production cars could have less than a liter for displacement! 0.9 liters is crazy to think of in the US
That 0.9 litre mentioned in the video was turbo charged and quite powerful for a small car, my previous car was 0.9 litre without turbo charging and it was fine because it was a kei car so still had a reasonable power to weight ratio, it wasn't great on the highway, speed wasn't an issue just because it was so light (750Kg) it got pushed around by the wind or when passing trucks.
BTW i've driven smaller cars if your interested in how small cars can be have a look at en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daihatsu_Mira , I've driven both the L55 and the L200 (which was my work cor for over a year) and owned the L250 (mentioned above)
Actually until 2018 MY there was a T-0.9L I3 (optional in Europe) available in USDM on the Smart ForTwo, which was of Nissan origin (rear engined version of the one on the EU-spec Micra and used in some Renault models).
The rear-engined version of the 0.9L also was used in the 4-door variants, the Smart ForFour and the Renault Twingo (Mk. 2 / 2G), never making the trip across the Atlantic.
The real reason for its' departure from Smart lineup wasn't for going ('19 MY) EV-only. The Micra and some Renault models using the front-engined version of the 0.9L had COOLING PROBLEMS. Imagine what could (and will) happen with the rear-engined versions as those have less place to cool down (Nissan Vanette anyone?).
PS: The T-0.9L used by Fiat was an inline 2-pot (just 2 cylinders), not an I3...
Gas costs 5$ or more per gallon. Vehicles with larger displacement cost far more to register and insure. No wonder that 2 liters is considered large engine when most people drive around 1.6 for compacts and less for subcompact.
In the family we have 1 Panda and a Lancia Ypsilon both with the 0.9 Twinair engine 😂😂
I can't stand them and I bought an Alfa, which still has a "small" engine (2.0 multijet) by your standards.
None of all of these manufacturers are known for their commitment to quality. Anything with Chrysler and Fiat in it, well most of us know what I mean...
Depends on how you define 'quality'. If it is reliability, you're right. Peugeot and especially Citroën however do have a reputation for great interior and ride quality and therefore being comfortable driving cars if you are willing to put the money into maintenance.
And Opel/Vauxhall under GM used to have a reputation for being extremely boring, but pretty reliable. Not Toyota reliable, but way better than Peugeot or Fiat.
Maserati needs to get rid of those 1950's Buick portholes!!!!!!!!!!!
They should try the 508 in North America. A New and Different Sedan for 2022 1/2.
LOL it will never work, there is a lack of space in that vehicle.
What companies will we get in the states from the new merger?
Probably none
Amanda Holleran your probably right
It is not yet known
Opel?
meme.lad.v1 either 2023 or 2026 the peugeot marque will return to the us
I am pessimistic about Lancia's continuation. With only one model, it's likely to be absorbed into Alfa Romeo.
there is only one (or 2 cars) they could bring back to save lancia ... but it won't happen sadly knowing the psa boss...
(i wish they brought the delta back , if it looks like that beautifull integrale ,sales will go up i think.. i also hope they bring back a mid.rear engined sportscar like the 037)
but for now id say you're right
They were smart to buy Chrysler that’s for sure the European market could bottom out sale wise for the unforeseen future the US market would fair better energy wise at least
to watch, new DS4 2021
You struggled most pronouncing “Opel” not Peugeot 😆
I know! He really butchered Opel and it’s not even that hard! I cringed every time he said ope-hell 😂😂😂
Colin W actually dead rn 💀😆
Jeep Grand Cherokee is one of the best SUVs in the world
I agree I have one Laredo and plan to buy another for my wife.
We all know Lancia is dead :(
Insider information has told me that Stellantis has sold the Stamping division already to Magna, this will effect thousands of good union paying jobs.
Only 93mph lol, I haven't went over 75 in years haha
I wonder when they will stop GM from taking Opels and rebadging them as Buicks
Pretty much '20 MY is the last year, as there's no '21 Buick Regal or Cascada on the horizon. Any successors would come under Stellantis US networks.
Nicholas Field, Funny, they seem to sell better than the Buick “Buick’s”.
@@littlejohnny47 they definitely do! But that's the competition now, and Stellantis would probably want to sell them themselves
@@syxepop Cascada is dead, they already start taking equipment from factory.
A used tundra and Ford F150 are still way better buys than anything you could get from Dodge or Ram, New or used.
Imagine having a Peugeot Ram
U have Peugeot Ram, It's ProMaster. It's quadruple Fiat Ducato/Peugot Boxter/Citroen Jumper
They can rebadge the 208 as a Chrysler?
The lancias could work if there built like the old ones.
It would be interesting to see those Opel/Vauxhall models being rebadged as Dodge models in North America seeing how the Cascadia and Insignia were both Buicks! If I recall GM ended availability of those models shortly after the sale.
The OVX model that GM sold for the longest after the sale was the Buick Regal (OVX Insignia) for ~a full year. The Polish-made Cascada convertible was axed in a few months after the sale.
I do believe that was also the case for Holden (Commodore) down in AU / NZ...
Doesn’t this make stalantis like one of the worlds largest companies production wise. There sell like what 4-5 million cars a year.
The Opel wagon reminds me of the Buick Regal wagon. I hope the American brands don’t get lost among all these other ones.Nice detailed video as usual. Nice job! 👍🏻👍🏻🇨🇦🇺🇸
Cause GM did own them and transferred Opal vehicles here rebranding as Buick
The only thing GM used was the platform, not an entire car.
@@LS1007 The are just rebadged Opals. They look exactly the same with different logos. At least in the outside I havent compared the interiors
@@LS1007 Wrong. Those Buicks that look like Opels? They ARE Opels, built in Germany and shipped to the US.
Galahadfairlight WRONG. They are not Opels, they are Buicks built by Opel. If they were Opels they would have the Opel badges on them. Your just another troll that is late to the comments with no pertinent information.
Jeep Compass for Europe is manufactured in India
There is a good reason why Peugeot left the US market decades ago. I doubt they would be welcome back with open arms. Soon to follow will be Fiat if things keep going the way they are for them.
Love peugeot
.....and not a pentastar to be seen anywhere. A moment's silence please.
area51isreal, yeah a long moment to remember the pentastar...the dodge dart swinger, the Chrysler Córdoba with fine Corinthian leather, the K-car platform that begot everything in the line from minivan to Chrysler New Yorker! Yeah, the Super Bee or Road Runner with drum brakes that only hinted that you might one day stop! Or how could we forget the Neon which you could only get with power window for the front door no matter what trim or label was on the hood.... The cars in the Chrysler sales bank quietly rusting around lots in Detroit! So many good memories!
@@littlejohnny47 But u can get new Chrysler Horizon (rebadge corsa/208)
It would be interesting if Chrysler or Dodge started using a Vauxhall or Opel platform that GM had previously used
In the Opel / Vauxhall deal General Motors said that PSA was only allowed to use the former GM platforms in Europe. The platforms are also getting a bit outdated now so I think that new Chrysler &c. vehicles will be nased off PSA platforms.
@@kugul1683 Correct.
It's not currently used by the Chrysler or Dodge brands, but FCA's Small US Wide platform and its 4x4 derivative that underpin the Jeep Renegade and Jeep Compass are derived from the GM Fiat Small Platform (or SCCS) that underpinned the 2006-19 Fiat Grande Punto and 2006-19 Opel/Vauxhall Corsa
And to think the Jeep started out as a no frills deal Milatary vechical in the 40s no luxuary no power nothing was built for tough people haha
Stellantis is a merger
How can they advertise just the brand name and not showing the company name "Stallatis" I bought a Ram and did not know it was owned by FCA now Stallatis Not an USA company. I feel like I been misinformed and bought a foreign truck. 🤑🤑🤑
A lot of people seem to name their dog "Stella". Just saying.
and dogs dont last long
Bringback the Studebaker and the Pontiac.
The MC 20 looks like a Ferrari
it's a render
TurboDragon66 damm
Fiat onced owned Ferrari if I'm Not mistaken so
Lincoln Davids Chrysler before the merger
@@MrInternFTL fiat once owned ferrari but chrysler never did... i guess you have mistaken it for lamborghini
The Peugeot 208 looks like the my 2007 mazda 3 i use to have
And Ferrari?🤔
isn't FCA
TurboDragon66 Wow, since when??
@@franciscopaci7807 since Fiat merged with Chrysler
They bought themselves out lmao 🤣
Stellantis is owned by Exor, the company of the Agnelli family who founded FIAT in the late 1800s.
Ferrari was not included in the Stellantis group but is directly owned by Exor
I tell if they don’t use PSA, Alfa and Jeep for Chrysler and Dodge then they’re fucked
Ram ProMaster is rebadged Fiat Ducato
I wish Peugeot will sale their vehicles in the USA, but those vehicles are made for Europeans. Plus they are not US road legal, due to US road regulations. Plus they sold them in North America but only Mexico & South America.
Joyce Bland Peugeot will return to the us either 2023 or 2026
Hmmm, I'm not sure, it was first intended for them to return in the USA, they even send some car to see how people react, it was somewhere in the french news, but now that they own multiple companies already in the states that's very unlikely.
Edit: here some link ruclips.net/video/z9HOAZtdQ5w/видео.html
Also, Peugeot heavily advertised in movie, like blade runner 2049, the car in the movie is a Peugeot, but peugeot get scammed and is barely seen in the movie.
Why are they not road legal in the US? I mean I understand that cars in the US need side marker lights and stuff, but other European car makers can tackle that challenge and they are making slightly re-designed US-spec models. Is there any other reason?
@@IHeartMyLada there is a lot reason actually, political, technical economical, not that they are bad car, but the American market is too much of a risk for a bad pay off
@@benjamincharlin6770 I see. It would be interesting to see the Peugeot 508 on the American market. Even though I'm European, I'm not a big fan of European, let alone French cars, but Peugeot makes quite desirable cars lately and the buyer feedbacks are promising as well.
I think this company is Destin to fail, too many brands and too many brands not selling well. Some brands will live on others will disappear.
Peugeot
Poo zho
Poo like pool.. zho like show but with a Z
Many people pronounce it Pezho
A merger with a bunch of failures. Good luck
Ello!
I'm first!
Among others
No you struggled more by trying to say opal, it's just like the stone.
I have worked 42 years (1975-2017) by the Fiat importers with a lot of pleasure and with many beautiful products; i am pleased not to work by "Stellantis", what will be a period where Fiat will loose more and more his own face
UAW 140 here i think these countries are gonna exploit american workers wile stealing our tech
Bold to assume Fiat have dignity, when?? When sold licences to CCCP? Or when sold rereskin cars as new? Or now?
@@cratlifff steal your tech, you must be joking....🤣
How did PSA end up with the upper hand on this merger? FCA seems to have far more unit sales. Oh wait a minute - That's because it's all european focused and the american brands are a dirty stepchild, even though they make up a huge part of the overall sales. This is not going to go well for the north american brands.
All those brand, at least the European ones was a complete failure under American management, to remind you, FCA tried to sold themselves to Renault-Nissan-Mistubishi, at least in PSA let them a bit of saying in the management, which is generous, if they would have waited two more year, all those companies would have gone very cheap to the Chinese government
Tavares said he would aim for brand æquality and said, that no brand would get axed. Let's hope he sticks true to his word. He will definitely develop new products for Jeep, because they are so profitable.
@@benjamincharlin6770 and European management of American brands has also been a failure (Daimler Chrysler). It just goes to show that neither side understands the market of the other from a strategic standpoint. But I agree with you about the Chinese. It's only a matter of time before they swallow up a western brand.
@@CTHellcat I believe that chrysler was heavily involved in the management of chrysler Daimler, that's why Daimler bailed of, but I'm not sure about that
@@benjamincharlin6770 incorrect, Daimler made all the strategic decisions and axed or thwarted any Chrysler models or designs that competed with Mercedes products. The Chrysler crossfire was a perfect example, it was released on an old Mercedes platform at the same time that Mercedes phased it out in their own lineup and released a new platform under their own brand. Same thing with the Charger and Challenger LX platform - a retired Mercedes platform that Chrysler was forced to use, because Mercedes wouldn't let them release cars under the latest platforms. Regional focus drives the strategic decisions.
We will keep Dodge and Ram here in the US and they can keep their shitboxes over there! Lol!
Amen Yes.
All their cars are failing junk! They are gonna run whats left of Mopar right into the cemetery! Just when things were gettin good!
Why are European cars so damn small?
Because of the price of gas, in Italy gas is about $ 6.00 USD a gallon, in France about $ 5.50 USD a gallon. Parking can also be an issue as can very narrow old roads.
@@PL-mu1cp Wow, that's a surprise. Honestly I thought maybe it was because the streets are just small. But, I understand now.
Because in Europe most people aren't fat asses and don't need a 3 row suv to go to the market
@@bluruckuscrx8124 basically you're saying Americans are fat😂😂
@@waltertheballer14 because its true 😂
Im An American if it dont have Dodge Ford Or Gm on it i dont want it How you like me now.
At the end of the day it's still a doggy I'm sorry I mean Dodge junk
I will put my 2019 Dodge Challenger Hemi 8 speed up against whatever you are driving Gary.....
Lancia is shit. Lol
I will still stick with Kia (Hyundai), Honda (Acura) and Ford
Ford is making a lot of mistakes lately like eco boost and small car automatic transmissions that fail and overpricing their trucks.
@@robc8468 Yes, because when other go to PHEVs Ford make V8. And on end 2020 they must buy emisions from Volvo(Geely) company owned earlier by Ford and sold as unprofitable.