I think the problem is Coney is thinking of the Switch being "good hardware" in the sense that it blends the console and handheld experience more seamlessly than any other gaming device ever has (the docks for other devices tend to be horrendously slow, and the joycon rail is genuinely a novel idea that makes the experience all come together), while chat is thinking about raw horsepower.
I wanted the system to play with friends that aren't in my household and find almost no value to handheld. Like, I never played much on Gameboy, Gameboy Advanced, 2DS, 3DS, etc. So, in a sense, more horsepower would have been nice. Great system if you were more a fan of those instead of the Wii or Wii-U. But I'm also old and think SMB3 is the best title and Galaxy made my head hurt. Like, I wish I could lie about that, but that's just what it does. Constant upside-downy make me head hurt.
I own both a regular switch and switch lite with an oled screen, i admit i love the idea of bringing a full console game with me...but after a while i bought both versions simply cause the battery life would dip way too drastically on the regular switch Overall, cool hardware to me
@@rockinon011 If u watch on pc, what I do is I put the video on muted since I've already seen the content and then open a new page to do whatever I want
I feel like Coney would get a kick out of this video: ruclips.net/video/XejJ6PzPtEw/видео.html. It basically goes over what games count as "Mario" games vs "Super Mario" games. Coney loves arguing over near-pointless semantics and this would make amazing content.
@@FrankEShaw05 Thx for the reply. I can kinda see how it wouldn't be good stream content since the video itself does the bullshit semantics arguing itself rather than leaving room for Coney to do it.
The thing about Mario World is that its legacy is so much bigger than itself. Without Mario World, ROM hacking as a whole would be nowhere near what it is today. Without Mario World, Kaizo wouldn't have developed into the awesome community that it is today. When I think of 2D Mario, Mario World is the first one that comes to mind. It just has it all, flawless controls, catchy tunes, great pixel art, and a platforming adventure that is still fun to replay to this day, without even counting the sprawling community it has created. Though I must admit, Mario 3 can claim to have a lot of those same traits, but zoomers prefer 16 bit over 8 bit :)
I just love everything about World, 3 is a phenomenal game also but the overworld map really just didn't look good and the way worlds map goes with star road and everything feels so cool
Boomers holding on to their NES: "You have recency bias!" Zoomers holding on to their Switch: "You just have nostalgia!" Makes judging things objectively pretty hard doesn't it...
Man I hate these Mario games, but you know what I don't hate? Hitting the subscribe and like buttons under the video of my favorite Twitch streamer and RUclipsr, Coney!
I don't know why but your reaction content is my favorite type of content you make. You're always so much more lively and funny than every other "reactor" Sometimes I'll watch a video and think "I wonder what Coney would say if he saw this" Good movie
True, so many streamers these days think "My face in the corner watching same video = content" with zero input or commentary. The video starts and ends with an emotionless face. Still, my favorite coney is storytime Coney
Y'know I actually think I like 3D World way more than 3. There were a lot of cool locations in that game as well as a lot of diverse level gimmicks that kept every level fresh and replayable.
I've played both of those games a lot and I don't get it. Have you played 3 recently? I think the levels are very replayable, and pretty diversely gimmicky too. Remember the sky tower in world 5? The grabbing hand levels in world 8? That level in w7 with the invisible note block pit trap? The star runs on the chomper floors? The lava balls coming from the ceiling? That castle with all the blocks that turn to coins? The wrap-around ascending pipe levels? The angry sun level and return of the sun? The jellyfish open ocean? The pipe grid mazes? 1-2 and the level in w3 where you have to hill slide? That infinite looping level where you have to fly with a shell to beat the level? That single diagonal autoscroll level with the sky demons? The level where you can enter the doors to switch between giant and regular size? The brick pyramid level with the two koopas at the end? The optional autoscroller in w1 with all the hidden 1-ups? The underwater ghost castle? The castle where if you pick the wrong door you fall in water? The only level in the whole series with goomba shoe? The overworld sailing in w3? The w8 tank, boat, air fleet trifecta? The only level with the flying beetles? The level where you have sex? The one where the platform floats over the desert oasis? That one where Mario invents time travel? The goldilocks zone? The gullible monkey? 魚㊥, alt! Gamalon rays? Simpsonitos? President garfield's latest inventing scandal? Rumble. The level where you climb the vines to avoid rising water? The rink WI th th en The ice fortress with the thwomps? The level that gives you the ability to walljump for a second before it starts? The lvels that lets you cure cancer? The level that makes me a furry- the level that lets you catch swordfish? The level that lets you FETCH swordfish? The instrument that keeps your tables level? The United States constitution? The Indus Valley civilization? Hank? Your teenage son's first garage band? The level that give you a certified psychological evaluation? The level that I died on? Little town on the levy? Levian Ryan? 9-27654321? The w2 level where you fly and break through the ceiling bricks at the start? The pyramid afterwards where you break walls with beetle shells? The overworld draw bridges in w3 that change with every level attempt? The ice level with the ball blowing piranha plants? w4.45~ with the pitch black water
The best part of 3 for me is the amount of secrets that’s in that game. No joke, it feels so incredibly rewarding whenever you find a secret power up or a room of 1up tucked away in a pipe in a level. The game in general is very challenging but fair with its difficulty that does require some practice and thinking rather than just run right to the end. Mind you, some levels are like that but some other ones require patience, which in experience, a lot of modern gamers lack.
I know the NSMB games are the epitomy of mediocrity, but it's the most fun I've ever had with something that was mediocre overall (wait, I retract that statement. Forgot I was a Pokemon fan). DS and Wii I think are unironically very good games that I have fond memories playing.
Ds and wii both had fun mechanics, ds had good powerups, return to classic 2d Mario world/level styles, and star coins made it more interesting than just run to the end. Wii only really added multiplayer and the propeller plus probably better designed shortcuts, but multiplayer was all they really needed. It got stale after that and they stopped adding interesting enough features for it to be fun to try anything but just multiplayer, which wii and 3d world both do infinitely better
Mario The Lost Levels: “People who rated this game low have a skill issue” Mario 2 Doki Doki Panic: “The last 3 levels of this game are sadistic!” Right…
The difference is that with 2-JP, it starts out being hard; you know what you're getting into. With 2-US, it starts out as a normal Mario game, but then they throw you a curveball and say "good luck lmao". The latter feels more like a bullshit maneuver.
I know this is a personal thing but even Doki Doki Mario 2 at its hardest isn’t anywhere near as chaotic as the final world of Mario 3 in my mind. Plus, if the last 3 levels are that absurd, you still see 85% of the game. If Lost Levels causes you to give up at world 3 or 4, that’s most of the game that you just didn’t see
The original Paper Mario is still my favorite Mario game to this day. I like how different it is, it’s just timeless. Galaxy and Odyssey, while great games, being that high might just be recency bias.
Odyssey and Galaxy are the most recent games and those are what the newer generations of people have played the most, a 10yo kid today won't have an NES, SNES, N64 or Gamecube and are more likely to not give a fuck about them
Donkey Kong on the Gameboy was the best 2D Mario, hell for me it could even take my top spot for any Mario game. I still play it today from time to time and the game's only 2 years from being 30 years old.
Sunshine is very divisive. Most people think it's either the best 3D Mario game or it's the worst 3D Mario game. The people in the latter group are wrong, but everyone's entitled to their own opinion.
11:00 I used to be one of those people that was like “people who say Mario 64 was the best are nostalgia blind” or like “Mario 64 didn’t age well”. But then I got 3D all stars, and during my time playing these games I would always go back to 64, sunshine felt frustrating and galaxy was alright but I consistently had fun when I picked 64. Don’t get me wrong I wouldn’t be caught dead with the abomination that is the N64 controller but people forgot how fun Mario 64 really was.
The act of just jumping around is so much fun in SM64. I could be entertained for hours just chaining long jumps and bouncing off of walls. Newer games are better in most ways, but in SM64 you just have so much momentum and versatility when running around.
@@ZachAttack6089 Don't get me wrong I feel as if odyssey captured that feeling of movement and even kind of improved on it but 64 had something special far ahead of its time
I'm not arguing that Super Mario 64 was the _first_ 3D game, because it wasn't. But it absolutely marked the shift into 3D games as a standard for the industry. Besides, if you think Virtua Fighter is, or ever was, as influential as SM64, then I've got a simple statistical fact for you. Sales: Virtua Fighter (series): 5.5m Super Mario 64: 12m
@@hoppefrosk you said "it was the game that brought games into 3D" when it factually wasn't. And are essentially trying to argue that popularity or sales = credit for being first. Also trying to downplay how influential VF was, and how multiple producers have credited VF as being influential in 3D games. Not to say SM64 isn't influential, just that it wasn't first. That's all.
@@hoppefrosk it was directly stated by Sony executives that VF is why the PlayStation was changed from a 2D machine in development to a 3D one. And because of that, it pushed the entire industry to 3D. Everything is a simple google search away for you to learn.
I really could never get into Galaxy. Mario feels slow as hell, galaxies can get repetitive, and the little planets where Mario can run upside down make me dizzy.
I think my personal top 5 would be 1. Super Mario Odyssey 2. New Soup DS 3 / 4. Super Mario 64 & Super Mario Galaxy (can't decide which is better) 5. Super Mario Bros. 3 (although I haven't played it in a long time) Also my least favourite is definitely The Lost Levels, wasn't a fan of a lot of the level design but I can totally see it being a sick speed game.
My reasoning for liking galaxy 2 more than 1 is when I was younger, I had both games, but I struggled with the first galaxy game, and once I beat the second, my copy for Galaxy 1 got scratched, and I didn't play it until 3D all stars
I gotta agree with Coney. The Switch's entire Kilobyte of memory and Megabyte of storage is outstanding in terms of hardware. It's not at all hard carried be the stellar games that came out with it and it's appeal to a greater audience through accessibility. Not at all, not at all.
I mean if the console can support stellar games I don’t really see what the problem is. Kinda just sounds like you want more overhead for funny big number, or ports of stuff not designed for it Is the great accessibility of blending console and handheld gaming not allowed to be what makes it a “good console”? There was always going to be a sacrifice to performance, and I think they walked that balance well. I think people also forget the system launched in 2017. It’s dated hardware now, but so is the ps4, and I can’t take that shit outside. The only thing that’s even attempted to do what Nintendo did with the Switch is valve’s Steam Deck 5 years later, which still isn’t technically even out for everyone.
@@IanZWhite00 Not asking for "Big number haha" I'm asking for BotW to not get lagged by grass. I'm asking for Pokemon to have better graphics than Ocarina of Time. And the argument was never "is it a good console" it was "does it have good hardware." Yes, the accessibility IS a huge factor in why it's a good console, hence the entire point of discussion. Mentioning that it is from 2017 is completely irrelevant because they released the Oled, which DOESN'T upgrade the hardware in terms of what the system can actually do. This was released in 2021, so the fact that Fire Emblem Three Houses having fire in certain maps causes your switch to overheat is all the same in the 2021 version. Since they released it again without upgrading the actual parts that need upgrading, it's clear they consider it "good enough," which, yes, it IS "good enough." It has absurd sales. That does not mean, however, that the hardware is good or up to a high standard. The hardware sucks. I want to play my nintendo game on my nintendo console without my nintendo console struggling to handle having some grass in the wind. That's not a crazy request, that's wanting my $300 console to not work as a space heater just because I've been playing an N64 game for a few hours.
SMB3 is definitely the best 2D mario game. And when it comes to the galaxy games, I can agree that they are more well made than 64 or sunshine but it seems with all of the galaxy levels and stars that there is only one way to achieve each star, there isn't much room to be creative. With 64 and sunshine and its deep movement mechanics it really feels like you can find a multitude of creative ways to get stars which is more fun for someone to get stars for someone like me. That's not to say the linear nature of Galaxy games are bad, linearity is not bad at all, but I feel for many people it just isn't as enjoyable. I feel like that's another reason people like Odyssey a lot, since you can be super creative in that game when it comes to the moons.
The only paper Mario I've ever played was sticker Star and I didn't rlly like it , but I've seen so many tyd playthroughs and the 1st one is one of my friends favourite games ever, and Origami King looks alright. Still, Mario and luigi is by far the better series, bowser's inside story is a near perfect game and all the others are really good as well!
I genuinely think an entire generation of people have been tricked into thinking that odyssey Uris the best Mario game. It simply isn’t, galaxy is number 1. Odyssey at most is number 4. Like seriously the game isn’t even that good.
i grew up with galaxy and beat it 100% dozens of times but even i know saying its the best mario game ever is kind of crazy its up there but i dont think id say its THE best
Never played 3d Land or world but 3d World is one of my favourite games that I've never played, I absolutely need to get the switch Version one day, it is genuinely without a doubt in my mind one of the best Mario games ever made, it goes SO HARD!
It's not a list of which are these peoples' favorites or least favorites... it's a list of what games they're vaguely familiar with, or maybe even played once or twice. Nonsense video. Without Coney I'd have clicked off this in 30 seconds. lmao~
I recently fully completed Mario 64 and I had to contemplate if I still loved it. But even after the rage and strife I still enjoy it and it is still one of my favorite games. If I can forgive some of the bullshit I’ve dealt with in other games I can get over being in that Shifting Sand pyramid for nearly an hour.
12:50 ye the souls community is still recoiling from the DS2 apologists. Only recently have people been going back and saying "no this is not as good as the others"
So glad Galaxy 2 is below Galaxy 1. That game has great level design, but no soul - no Rosalina, no Observatory, barely any new music (butchered Gusty Garden along the way) and focused too much on 2D levels. Also Sunshine is bad and would probably be lower on my list lol
Galaxy 2 I remembered when it released was good, but got a lot of hate for being just 1 again with nothing really new. It's weird now that I just hearing so much praise for 2 and none of that 2 hate anymore from back then.
Thats the same thing that happened with 3d world. People complained about it not being a more traditional mario game when it first came out but then after they got that with odyssey they looked back and went “y’know this game wasnt that bad”
Bruh i was in the cafeteria watching this vid while music was blasting in the speakers but the moment the song ended and the whole place goes quiet the only thing that was heard was coney at max volume saying "SHUT THE FUCK UP" I want to die.. 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
I think that in current year right now mario 64 is pretty rough ONLY IF its someones first time playing it. The controls on mario are really unwieldy if you’re used to any mario game that came out after and I personally dont really enjoy the game because of that but as a speed run game its a masterpiece and the movement stops being a problem when you’re a speedruner. But i also think that sunshine is better than odyssey so maybe i just think about games weirdly
after coney mentioned the preorder phone call i had to check it out and i want never again hear mario say anything more but 5 words at a time. that voice gets obnoxious so fast. we are lucky that mario wasn't an rpg and we now would have to deal with fully voice acted cutscenes with marios voice
I'll just say that I am EXTREMELY attached to Mario Galaxy 1, this game has it all baby HEAPS of nostalgia, music that makes me cry (Partially due to the nostalgia, and partially because I have a bleeding heart), theming that I enjoy (I like space) etc. etc. Is it the best... arguable! Galaxy 2 and Odyssey I'd consider objectively better games, and Mario Bros. 3 is Goated, but Galaxy 1 will always have a nice Mario shaped hole in my heart.
My least favorite Mario game is Super Mario World. It's really bland, I hate the soundtrack(the fact that every song is the same song), and this is ACUALLY the game where Mario is running on ice the whole time. Sunshine is my favorite, no questions asked. It's so full of passion and creativity and it has just the perfect level of challenge. Also, while I admit I don't even like Mario 3 that much, putting it under 3D World is an actual crime against humanity.
it's always weird watching like nintendo ranking videos by creators i like and coming from the point of view of "i love platformers and platformer adjacent games a lot. and i tried like mario 3 like once said why is this shit so slippery why are you jumping around this greased up." the only takeaway i gain every time is like wow jeez there are so many zelda games or whatever why are there so many mario games they made how many?
Bro who tf is mind controlling chat? The Switch is really good, idk why they gotta be little contrarians. Also my favorite Mario game is Galaxy 2, nobody told me to say that.
I think the problem is Coney is thinking of the Switch being "good hardware" in the sense that it blends the console and handheld experience more seamlessly than any other gaming device ever has (the docks for other devices tend to be horrendously slow, and the joycon rail is genuinely a novel idea that makes the experience all come together), while chat is thinking about raw horsepower.
yeah. i never play my switch handheld, so i don't really consider that a benefit of the switch
same as melonkeep4
@@tokobot I'm the opposite, I literally never dock my switch
I wanted the system to play with friends that aren't in my household and find almost no value to handheld. Like, I never played much on Gameboy, Gameboy Advanced, 2DS, 3DS, etc. So, in a sense, more horsepower would have been nice. Great system if you were more a fan of those instead of the Wii or Wii-U. But I'm also old and think SMB3 is the best title and Galaxy made my head hurt. Like, I wish I could lie about that, but that's just what it does. Constant upside-downy make me head hurt.
I own both a regular switch and switch lite with an oled screen, i admit i love the idea of bringing a full console game with me...but after a while i bought both versions simply cause the battery life would dip way too drastically on the regular switch
Overall, cool hardware to me
“I didn’t realize how good [64] was until I started speedrunning it.”
Coney that’s called Stockholm Syndrome
Watch pannenkoek to experience the true beauty of mario 64
Coney shouting “shut the fuck up!” at all the praise for Super Mario World cracked me the fuck up.
I was more attached to the screen-chat setup you had than I thought I was
I now realize being there for the streams might be detrimental to watching coney on RUclips
My dilemma too
You can still at least drop a like and a comment for the growth and algorithm, definitely helps!
Yeah me too
@@rockinon011 If u watch on pc, what I do is I put the video on muted since I've already seen the content and then open a new page to do whatever I want
watching streams is just getting early access coney and I'm all for it.
16:13 Hearing “Toad dance party” made me realise that Illumination is going to treat Toads like fucking Minions
I feel like Coney would get a kick out of this video: ruclips.net/video/XejJ6PzPtEw/видео.html. It basically goes over what games count as "Mario" games vs "Super Mario" games. Coney loves arguing over near-pointless semantics and this would make amazing content.
He would spend HOURS on this shit bro
He brought it up on stream once and chat told him it was a good video but not good stream content so he never reacted to it
@@FrankEShaw05 DAMN IT
@@FrankEShaw05 Thx for the reply. I can kinda see how it wouldn't be good stream content since the video itself does the bullshit semantics arguing itself rather than leaving room for Coney to do it.
Literally what is Coney talking about galaxy 2 has been considered a 9 or a 10/10 game across the board since launch
The thing about Mario World is that its legacy is so much bigger than itself. Without Mario World, ROM hacking as a whole would be nowhere near what it is today. Without Mario World, Kaizo wouldn't have developed into the awesome community that it is today. When I think of 2D Mario, Mario World is the first one that comes to mind. It just has it all, flawless controls, catchy tunes, great pixel art, and a platforming adventure that is still fun to replay to this day, without even counting the sprawling community it has created. Though I must admit, Mario 3 can claim to have a lot of those same traits, but zoomers prefer 16 bit over 8 bit :)
I just love everything about World, 3 is a phenomenal game also but the overworld map really just didn't look good and the way worlds map goes with star road and everything feels so cool
3 is one of my favorites, easily
Edit: 3D World is pretty good though, idk why Coney is malding
He hasn't even played it
@@AwesomeMooseSmile I know! That's the worst part
Boomers holding on to their NES: "You have recency bias!"
Zoomers holding on to their Switch: "You just have nostalgia!"
Makes judging things objectively pretty hard doesn't it...
This is why Wii U enjoyers are the true chads
Millenials holding whatever they had: this was all I could afford!
Man I hate these Mario games, but you know what I don't hate? Hitting the subscribe and like buttons under the video of my favorite Twitch streamer and RUclipsr, Coney!
how much did he pay you
Word
Blink twice if you’re being held hostage
😳
Simp
"Galaxy 2 is just Galaxy 1 again"
Yeah... thats kinda the point, Coney. Thats why its so great.
I don't know why but your reaction content is my favorite type of content you make. You're always so much more lively and funny than every other "reactor"
Sometimes I'll watch a video and think "I wonder what Coney would say if he saw this"
Good movie
True, so many streamers these days think "My face in the corner watching same video = content" with zero input or commentary. The video starts and ends with an emotionless face.
Still, my favorite coney is storytime Coney
Y'know I actually think I like 3D World way more than 3. There were a lot of cool locations in that game as well as a lot of diverse level gimmicks that kept every level fresh and replayable.
you may want to hide in a bunker fine sir.
@@B1G_GUY__ I mean he's kinda right tho
I couldn't agree more. Once you consider it as a package with Bowser's Fury, ngl it's my second favorite Mario title behind Galaxy 1.
I've played both of those games a lot and I don't get it.
Have you played 3 recently? I think the levels are very replayable, and pretty diversely gimmicky too.
Remember the sky tower in world 5? The grabbing hand levels in world 8? That level in w7 with the invisible note block pit trap? The star runs on the chomper floors? The lava balls coming from the ceiling? That castle with all the blocks that turn to coins? The wrap-around ascending pipe levels? The angry sun level and return of the sun? The jellyfish open ocean? The pipe grid mazes? 1-2 and the level in w3 where you have to hill slide? That infinite looping level where you have to fly with a shell to beat the level? That single diagonal autoscroll level with the sky demons? The level where you can enter the doors to switch between giant and regular size? The brick pyramid level with the two koopas at the end? The optional autoscroller in w1 with all the hidden 1-ups? The underwater ghost castle? The castle where if you pick the wrong door you fall in water? The only level in the whole series with goomba shoe? The overworld sailing in w3? The w8 tank, boat, air fleet trifecta? The only level with the flying beetles? The level where you have sex? The one where the platform floats over the desert oasis? That one where Mario invents time travel? The goldilocks zone? The gullible monkey? 魚㊥, alt! Gamalon rays? Simpsonitos? President garfield's latest inventing scandal? Rumble. The level where you climb the vines to avoid rising water? The rink WI th th en
The ice fortress with the thwomps? The level that gives you the ability to walljump for a second before it starts? The lvels that lets you cure cancer? The level that makes me a furry- the level that lets you catch swordfish? The level that lets you FETCH swordfish? The instrument that keeps your tables level? The United States constitution? The Indus Valley civilization? Hank? Your teenage son's first garage band? The level that give you a certified psychological evaluation? The level that I died on? Little town on the levy? Levian Ryan? 9-27654321? The w2 level where you fly and break through the ceiling bricks at the start? The pyramid afterwards where you break walls with beetle shells? The overworld draw bridges in w3 that change with every level attempt? The ice level with the ball blowing piranha plants? w4.45~ with the pitch black water
The best part of 3 for me is the amount of secrets that’s in that game. No joke, it feels so incredibly rewarding whenever you find a secret power up or a room of 1up tucked away in a pipe in a level.
The game in general is very challenging but fair with its difficulty that does require some practice and thinking rather than just run right to the end. Mind you, some levels are like that but some other ones require patience, which in experience, a lot of modern gamers lack.
I know the NSMB games are the epitomy of mediocrity, but it's the most fun I've ever had with something that was mediocre overall (wait, I retract that statement. Forgot I was a Pokemon fan). DS and Wii I think are unironically very good games that I have fond memories playing.
Ds and wii both had fun mechanics, ds had good powerups, return to classic 2d Mario world/level styles, and star coins made it more interesting than just run to the end. Wii only really added multiplayer and the propeller plus probably better designed shortcuts, but multiplayer was all they really needed. It got stale after that and they stopped adding interesting enough features for it to be fun to try anything but just multiplayer, which wii and 3d world both do infinitely better
The pokemon thing is hella true
This guy’s video just served as a reminder to me that they neglected to add SMG2 to 3-D All Stars and that pisses me off ONCE AGAIN
3:36 the image for lost levels reminds me of burgers for some reason lol
I love the solution to coney forgetting to put chat on the tv screen for these videos. I almost didn't notice the first couple of times
THOMAS GAME DOCS!?!? I love that guy!!!
Also, after Coney bashing Xenoblade Chronicles and Kid Icarus, he deserved SMB3 getting seventh place.
Imagine dying to the first goomba in 1-1
Imagine hating on the cool gravity stuff and loving on the super soaker cleaning mechanics.
Me
Mario The Lost Levels: “People who rated this game low have a skill issue”
Mario 2 Doki Doki Panic: “The last 3 levels of this game are sadistic!”
Right…
The difference is that with 2-JP, it starts out being hard; you know what you're getting into. With 2-US, it starts out as a normal Mario game, but then they throw you a curveball and say "good luck lmao". The latter feels more like a bullshit maneuver.
I know this is a personal thing but even Doki Doki Mario 2 at its hardest isn’t anywhere near as chaotic as the final world of Mario 3 in my mind. Plus, if the last 3 levels are that absurd, you still see 85% of the game. If Lost Levels causes you to give up at world 3 or 4, that’s most of the game that you just didn’t see
Can't believe this is the only video I've seen of Coney's where the like button lights up
The one time he's mad about a video getting a Like, it lights up.
The original Paper Mario is still my favorite Mario game to this day. I like how different it is, it’s just timeless. Galaxy and Odyssey, while great games, being that high might just be recency bias.
Galaxy is 15 years old. I don't think recency bias really applies to it.
Galaxy is 15 years old. Odyssey is 5 years old. I think the recency bias has went away at this point.
Odyssey and Galaxy are the most recent games and those are what the newer generations of people have played the most, a 10yo kid today won't have an NES, SNES, N64 or Gamecube and are more likely to not give a fuck about them
@@puckie643 3D World and 3D Land are both more recent then Galaxy, as are NSMB2 and NSMBU.
@@puckie643 a ten year old kid wouldn’t have played Galaxy. Also 3D Land and World can put after Galaxy and no one talks about those games as much.
Donkey Kong on the Gameboy was the best 2D Mario, hell for me it could even take my top spot for any Mario game. I still play it today from time to time and the game's only 2 years from being 30 years old.
Was waiting on this comment. Donkey Kong was WAY ahead of its time for the Gameboy.
SML2 at 13th is criminal, it's my second favorite 2D Mario after SMB3, I want a 2D Mario that expands upon its unique concepts someday.
Sunshine is very divisive.
Most people think it's either the best 3D Mario game or it's the worst 3D Mario game.
The people in the latter group are wrong, but everyone's entitled to their own opinion.
Sunshine has better movement and level design than odyssey and you aren’t constantly shaking the controller just to travel at max speed
11:00 I used to be one of those people that was like “people who say Mario 64 was the best are nostalgia blind” or like “Mario 64 didn’t age well”. But then I got 3D all stars, and during my time playing these games I would always go back to 64, sunshine felt frustrating and galaxy was alright but I consistently had fun when I picked 64. Don’t get me wrong I wouldn’t be caught dead with the abomination that is the N64 controller but people forgot how fun Mario 64 really was.
The act of just jumping around is so much fun in SM64. I could be entertained for hours just chaining long jumps and bouncing off of walls. Newer games are better in most ways, but in SM64 you just have so much momentum and versatility when running around.
@@ZachAttack6089 Don't get me wrong I feel as if odyssey captured that feeling of movement and even kind of improved on it but 64 had something special far ahead of its time
I wanna see Coney watch the Zelda one, because I wanna see him bash the bottom ones
Seeing Coney mald is top tier content
He's verbose, so even his unreasonable rage is endearing in a stubborn way
11:00 "It was the game that brought Mario into 3D."
Bitch, it was the game that brought *GAMES* into 3D!
Virtua Fighter
I'm not arguing that Super Mario 64 was the _first_ 3D game, because it wasn't. But it absolutely marked the shift into 3D games as a standard for the industry. Besides, if you think Virtua Fighter is, or ever was, as influential as SM64, then I've got a simple statistical fact for you.
Sales:
Virtua Fighter (series): 5.5m
Super Mario 64: 12m
@@hoppefrosk you said "it was the game that brought games into 3D" when it factually wasn't. And are essentially trying to argue that popularity or sales = credit for being first. Also trying to downplay how influential VF was, and how multiple producers have credited VF as being influential in 3D games.
Not to say SM64 isn't influential, just that it wasn't first. That's all.
Again: I never said SM64 was *first.*
But if you think Virtua Fighter was the game that marked the shift to 3D games, then you're deluding yourself.
@@hoppefrosk it was directly stated by Sony executives that VF is why the PlayStation was changed from a 2D machine in development to a 3D one. And because of that, it pushed the entire industry to 3D. Everything is a simple google search away for you to learn.
it’s strangely consistent that coney drops banger videos when im sick at home. thank you coney :)
My favourite Mario game was when Mario said “It’s Maring time!” And starts Maring all over the place
truly a maring experience
I really could never get into Galaxy. Mario feels slow as hell, galaxies can get repetitive, and the little planets where Mario can run upside down make me dizzy.
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I think my personal top 5 would be
1. Super Mario Odyssey
2. New Soup DS
3 / 4. Super Mario 64 & Super Mario Galaxy (can't decide which is better)
5. Super Mario Bros. 3 (although I haven't played it in a long time)
Also my least favourite is definitely The Lost Levels, wasn't a fan of a lot of the level design but I can totally see it being a sick speed game.
Honestly when I first played Mario galaxy I thought it was the best game ever and I don’t think I’ve ever felt that about anything else
super mario land 2 comes up in conversation fairly often in the Super Mario Fandom because of how underrated it is, if that makes any sense lmao
We all know Super Mario Galaxy 2 is the best Mario. No question
I think that SMG2 is peak 3D Mario tbh.
Also SMB3 and World are goated
I also remember being 4 years old and gettin hella HYPED the second world 4 came around in Mario 3
15:28 Coney forgets Odyssey came out five years ago
My reasoning for liking galaxy 2 more than 1 is when I was younger, I had both games, but I struggled with the first galaxy game, and once I beat the second, my copy for Galaxy 1 got scratched, and I didn't play it until 3D all stars
I gotta agree with Coney. The Switch's entire Kilobyte of memory and Megabyte of storage is outstanding in terms of hardware. It's not at all hard carried be the stellar games that came out with it and it's appeal to a greater audience through accessibility. Not at all, not at all.
I mean if the console can support stellar games I don’t really see what the problem is. Kinda just sounds like you want more overhead for funny big number, or ports of stuff not designed for it
Is the great accessibility of blending console and handheld gaming not allowed to be what makes it a “good console”? There was always going to be a sacrifice to performance, and I think they walked that balance well.
I think people also forget the system launched in 2017. It’s dated hardware now, but so is the ps4, and I can’t take that shit outside. The only thing that’s even attempted to do what Nintendo did with the Switch is valve’s Steam Deck 5 years later, which still isn’t technically even out for everyone.
@@IanZWhite00 Not asking for "Big number haha" I'm asking for BotW to not get lagged by grass. I'm asking for Pokemon to have better graphics than Ocarina of Time.
And the argument was never "is it a good console" it was "does it have good hardware." Yes, the accessibility IS a huge factor in why it's a good console, hence the entire point of discussion.
Mentioning that it is from 2017 is completely irrelevant because they released the Oled, which DOESN'T upgrade the hardware in terms of what the system can actually do. This was released in 2021, so the fact that Fire Emblem Three Houses having fire in certain maps causes your switch to overheat is all the same in the 2021 version. Since they released it again without upgrading the actual parts that need upgrading, it's clear they consider it "good enough," which, yes, it IS "good enough." It has absurd sales. That does not mean, however, that the hardware is good or up to a high standard. The hardware sucks. I want to play my nintendo game on my nintendo console without my nintendo console struggling to handle having some grass in the wind. That's not a crazy request, that's wanting my $300 console to not work as a space heater just because I've been playing an N64 game for a few hours.
SMB3 is definitely the best 2D mario game.
And when it comes to the galaxy games, I can agree that they are more well made than 64 or sunshine but it seems with all of the galaxy levels and stars that there is only one way to achieve each star, there isn't much room to be creative. With 64 and sunshine and its deep movement mechanics it really feels like you can find a multitude of creative ways to get stars which is more fun for someone to get stars for someone like me. That's not to say the linear nature of Galaxy games are bad, linearity is not bad at all, but I feel for many people it just isn't as enjoyable.
I feel like that's another reason people like Odyssey a lot, since you can be super creative in that game when it comes to the moons.
Super mario 64 aged like milk
The only paper Mario I've ever played was sticker Star and I didn't rlly like it , but I've seen so many tyd playthroughs and the 1st one is one of my friends favourite games ever, and Origami King looks alright. Still, Mario and luigi is by far the better series, bowser's inside story is a near perfect game and all the others are really good as well!
Based take. RIP alpha dream
"Next on the list is Super Mario 6-" Me: *throwing up*
I genuinely think an entire generation of people have been tricked into thinking that odyssey Uris the best Mario game. It simply isn’t, galaxy is number 1. Odyssey at most is number 4. Like seriously the game isn’t even that good.
Man I grew up with the Wii but Odyssey is SO much better. Galaxy is too linear and doesn’t feel that good to move around in
i grew up with galaxy and beat it 100% dozens of times but even i know saying its the best mario game ever is kind of crazy
its up there but i dont think id say its THE best
Bowsers's Fury is such a great game it's insane. Shame so many people haven't played it.
I had to check when this came out after he dabbed
Never played 3d Land or world but 3d World is one of my favourite games that I've never played, I absolutely need to get the switch Version one day, it is genuinely without a doubt in my mind one of the best Mario games ever made, it goes SO HARD!
You definitely do, the Switch versions minor additions ended up making the experience really smooth and made me adore 3D World! That game is fantastic
It's not a list of which are these peoples' favorites or least favorites... it's a list of what games they're vaguely familiar with, or maybe even played once or twice.
Nonsense video. Without Coney I'd have clicked off this in 30 seconds. lmao~
Learning that Coney would use a time machine to kill me makes subscribing hard...
Not impossible.
12:43 Holy shit, the Like button actually did the thing here!
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The fact you can see the sub badges slighting poking off the TV had ruined my immersion forever. I thought the TV was real Sadge.
I recently fully completed Mario 64 and I had to contemplate if I still loved it. But even after the rage and strife I still enjoy it and it is still one of my favorite games. If I can forgive some of the bullshit I’ve dealt with in other games I can get over being in that Shifting Sand pyramid for nearly an hour.
“Coldcoffee16: Joseph Anderson in shambles”
I see you bro LOL
Coney is the king of clickbait and reaction videos 💀
Can’t wait for the Least Popular Pokémon video tho
12:50 ye the souls community is still recoiling from the DS2 apologists. Only recently have people been going back and saying "no this is not as good as the others"
Miyamoto tossing and turning in a cold sweat at night having a nightmare where mario kills yoshi to complete a jump.
3D World is Galaxy with multiplayer
So glad Galaxy 2 is below Galaxy 1. That game has great level design, but no soul - no Rosalina, no Observatory, barely any new music (butchered Gusty Garden along the way) and focused too much on 2D levels.
Also Sunshine is bad and would probably be lower on my list lol
Galaxy 2 is just the sequel. It's fun, don't get me wrong, but Galaxy 1 is superior
16:04 Mario hits the griddy
hes gotta play super mario 3d world, that game is great
Agreed
Galaxy 2 I remembered when it released was good, but got a lot of hate for being just 1 again with nothing really new. It's weird now that I just hearing so much praise for 2 and none of that 2 hate anymore from back then.
Thats the same thing that happened with 3d world. People complained about it not being a more traditional mario game when it first came out but then after they got that with odyssey they looked back and went “y’know this game wasnt that bad”
"Mario Galaxy 2 is just more of 1"
Sonic Adventure 2 is just more of 1
Sunshine needs to be 1. Will fight anyone.
Bruh i was in the cafeteria watching this vid while music was blasting in the speakers but the moment the song ended and the whole place goes quiet the only thing that was heard was coney at max volume saying "SHUT THE FUCK UP"
I want to die.. 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
I think that in current year right now mario 64 is pretty rough ONLY IF its someones first time playing it. The controls on mario are really unwieldy if you’re used to any mario game that came out after and I personally dont really enjoy the game because of that but as a speed run game its a masterpiece and the movement stops being a problem when you’re a speedruner. But i also think that sunshine is better than odyssey so maybe i just think about games weirdly
In my opinion, 3, World, 64 and Odyssey are definitely my favorite mario games I have no issues replaying.
after coney mentioned the preorder phone call i had to check it out and i want never again hear mario say anything more but 5 words at a time. that voice gets obnoxious so fast. we are lucky that mario wasn't an rpg and we now would have to deal with fully voice acted cutscenes with marios voice
I'll just say that I am EXTREMELY attached to Mario Galaxy 1, this game has it all baby HEAPS of nostalgia, music that makes me cry (Partially due to the nostalgia, and partially because I have a bleeding heart), theming that I enjoy (I like space) etc. etc.
Is it the best... arguable! Galaxy 2 and Odyssey I'd consider objectively better games, and Mario Bros. 3 is Goated, but Galaxy 1 will always have a nice Mario shaped hole in my heart.
Mario Galaxy 1 is a great game with lovely worlds and a tear-wrenching story.
Mario Galaxy 2 is the sequel...
I had no idea people hated 3d world and land, I love em
My least favorite Mario game is Super Mario World. It's really bland, I hate the soundtrack(the fact that every song is the same song), and this is ACUALLY the game where Mario is running on ice the whole time. Sunshine is my favorite, no questions asked. It's so full of passion and creativity and it has just the perfect level of challenge.
Also, while I admit I don't even like Mario 3 that much, putting it under 3D World is an actual crime against humanity.
Yeah, If i had to say, top 3 would be Galaxy, 3 and odyssey and bottom 3 would be 3d land, sunshine and 2
"Should've stayed lost"
That was cold🥶
Mario Run at least has the grand return of both Fishin' Boos and Ninjis!!!
2:18!! I can’t stand those levels either, they have access to Mario 3 yet they pick that crap!
the irony of the game in the description spoiling the video
Coney should watch the video "how many super Mario games are there"
Chat will never realize the TV isn't real.
it's always weird watching like nintendo ranking videos by creators i like and coming from the point of view of "i love platformers and platformer adjacent games a lot. and i tried like mario 3 like once said why is this shit so slippery why are you jumping around this greased up." the only takeaway i gain every time is like wow jeez there are so many zelda games or whatever why are there so many mario games they made how many?
Bro who tf is mind controlling chat? The Switch is really good, idk why they gotta be little contrarians. Also my favorite Mario game is Galaxy 2, nobody told me to say that.
It’s nice to get a Coney video where I agree with every take
I like world more because it has better level design, the levels in 3 can be breezed through if you don't go after any of the extra stuff.
For me?
3D: Odyssey and it's NOT EVEN CLOSE.
2D: SUPER MARIO WORLD.
Hot take: Sonic Adventure IS great. But mainly the original on Dreamcast. DX is a mess but still enjoyable.
When you realize Sonic Adventure is more replayable than Mario 64, that is when you shall be free.
I can't believe they didn't add Super Mario 64 DS on the list easy top 3 no question!!
Keep in mind that they only said the *main series.* If they put all of them it’d be over 200 at least.
They should bring back the wind from SMB2 and add it to every Smash stage
Sunshine is a very volotile game. It has some really high highs and mariana trench lows.
I'd love really like to love sunshine but I just can't.
I haven't played it, but I want to
Its great to play casually but even thinking about 100% it is miserable
Mario Bros. 3 is a 5! No question a fat five! My favorite NES game of all time 100% agreed
Bro Mario 64 will never be beat. I could play that game a hundred times and I’d never get tired of it.
Watching this video and thinking about Mario games I'm realizing just how much my tastes have been shaped by nastolgia
3 goes hard but it doesn't hold up as well as World IMO
I don’t play Mario games too often but I’m actually pressed that 3D world is above Mario bros 3