JONBENET RAMSEY The #3 Clue We All Missed
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I agree completely, Nick. My daughter disappeared when she was five on the Main St. while I was shopping with my husband and two other children. I screameded my lungs out yelling her names running up and down the street. I told husband to stay with the other two. I made such a scene that other people started screaming her name and someone found her looking in a window on a side street. Mother's instinct is to scream your bloody head off! I screamed thank you to the whole beautiful street for helping to find my beautiful daughter! 💖
Not just Mother's instinct, human instinct! 💖👍
It’s funny that just the other day, I take my dog to a small park down the street off leash. We’re usually the only ones there. She always stays where I can see her but I didn’t see her and I started calling her name. My first thought was I hope she’s ok. Did someone take her or did she get hit by a car on the road? But I kept shouting her name. She didn’t come right away so I kept running to the entrance where we parked calling her name all the way and she finally showed herself. She’d been waiting at the car. I know she’s a dog not a child, but I didn’t think I should call the police. If it had been my
son in the same situation, I’d have done the same thing.
Kids can scare the hell out of you by hiding as a prank. I
don’t believe anything the Ramses say. Thanks for telling all of the things they should have done. I kept waiting for that 3rd clue because I didn’t think about calling her name. You’re absolutely right. Whenever you see a movie where the child can’t be seen, the parent or parents start screaming their name.
The parents did scream but to continue screaming when no one else is around is totally different from being out in public as you were where people could hear your screams.
What an horrific experience for you 😢❤
True! 💜
Let’s pretend the ransom note is real. I’d pick up the “ransom note” & scan the entire thing. As it was registering in my mind that it was in fact a ransom note relating to JonBenét I’d be walking/rushing to her bedroom to look for her. Once I knew she was not in her room I’d tear apart the whole house, every nook & cranny shouting her name & I’d also be waking up Burke in the process. Quizzing him - what did he know? Did he hear anything? Once I’d established JonBenét was not in the house/garden I’d READ THE NOTE very carefully whilst having (in this case) John call 911. I have the same problem with Kate McCann, one cursory glance and she ran out the apartment saying “they’ve taken her!” In Kate’s case she even left her other two babies behind. You would look for your child! If you lose sight of your child for a moment, you LOOK for them. Any parent who doesn’t immediately look for a missing child is a huge red flag to me. To my mind, the panic creates a knee jerk reaction to turn everything upside down until you find your child. There are parents still looking for their missing children 20 years later & these two didn’t even search their own house!
100% - certainty is one of the factors criminal profilers use to establish guilt on false 911 calls by the perpetrator. Criminals will often insist the person is definitely dead. Innocent people aren't sure, don't want to say, and tragically even if the person is very clearly passed, they will often be in denial. Really a fascinating science...
Mr Ramsey's friend, Mr White, went around shouting her name
while looking for her in the house.
It's just a natural and spontaneous
reaction to do that..!
Yes! My daughter was missing in the daytime age 4 in our large house, I screamed for her and looked all over, even asked a neighbor. I found her napping in a corner of her closet. Scary, when you think you’ve looked everywhere!
1 of my twin sons went missing years ago when they were small ,my daughters friend came in and did not close doir properly ,so I assumed he had gone out ,the other one was still sleeping ,I freaked was running about house crazy looking for him ,I phoned my relatives to come help and phoned police ,I couldnt even tell them my phone number was so worked up ,it turned out there was storage under bed with all spare bedding in there ,we did look but didnt see him at first as he was curled up sleeping ,dont think ive ever been so scared in my lifr .
@ShakerMaker1980 Fhs the Ramseys believed that JonBenet was not in the house because they found a ransom note saying she had been kidnapped.
If there was no note then they should've started searching for her.
But for all they knew these perpetrator's may have still been in the house!.
The best option is to leave the searching for the Police to do.
Their priority was getting the Police to arrive asap.
They don't read the note they don't look for her. They don't leave no finger prints because they know what it says
Any fingerprints.
@dianeotto8600 They didn't look for her because they found a ransom note saying she had been kidnapped.
They may have been concerned the perpetrators could have been still in the house.
Searching is best left for the Police to do.
You can touch something without leaving fingerprints especially if the hands are clean.
I was just responding to nicks question
@@vivienneandersson6019 grammar police need not comment. You appear stupider than the person you're trying insult
@@user-ox1jw7ur6g
Is your real name Burke ? 😂
We all know the note is fake. But let's just pretend it was real.
1. I could see, just skimming over the note at first. It's 3 pages and time spent reading the note equals seconds wasted in the search for their daughter. In which case, they only searched Jon Benet's room. Which leads into the next problem.
2. In the search for their daughter, the first or second place they should look is Burke's room because we know she slept there most nights. Which leads into the third problem.
3. The next logical step should have been to wake Burke up along with anyone else in the house at the time because there was in intruder who could still be in the house somewhere. Even if Jon Benet did not sleep in Burke's room. The parental instinct should be to make sure your other children are safe. Leaving Burke in his room in a situation like that does not make sense. Especially considering it was the police who came into his room and woke him up.
These things only make sense if you take the note at absolute face value and assume Jon Benet was kidnapped and your other children are safe. That, or, the ransom note was a farce and they knew Jon Benet was already dead. The latter seems more likely, given the strong evidence that suggests Patsy wrote the note. Then looking back at the three aforementioned issues, it begins to appear as if the crime scene was curated to direct attention away from Burke from the very beginning.
Finding a strange note like that inside my house would indicate a stranger having been in my house while I sleep. My first thought would have been “is there a predator hiding in my house”
I would have called her name called 911 notified John and John should have armed himself and actively searched the entire house
Yes, you would feel petrified, and bring Burke down to the kitchen or sitting room, where he could be safer.
Yes .why don't other people see through thier bs
@@user-qh8nh7oe6d my thoughts too. In fact I find it real strange Burke ‘slept’ a big portion of the morning while guest were in contaminating the crime scene. Had that been me I would have clung to Burke every minute.
They are protecting Burnie. Why didn't they look inside and outside the house Also if rhe note qA true and said Don't call police, id be discussing that with my husband. Can we call police!?? If one child killed the other....you'd protect 2nd child...you'd create a scenario to cover up. I agree.. makes no sense.
I know, it's so obviously nonsense. The house had alarms all over the place. The intruder would have to have been there before they left for the Christmas party that evening.
You're right when you say that they didn't bother to search, because the moment John actually did, he found her in no time. How interesting, eh?
Similar interesting thing with the Laundries finding their sons bag and sending local LEO's straight to the body. I was so glad someone with a video camera on was following them.
Yes. Thought that was always weird myself
He already knew where she was and had tried to get her body out of the house. Also very weird they never say her name. Weird.
Why would they do a thorough search? If Secret Service found a note that Joe Biden's son had been kidnapped for ransom would you say that they should do a thorough search of the attic and basement and vacation homes to see if it's a prank and the child was hiding? That would be a fools errand wouldn't it? That time/energy would be misplaced when the perpetrator needed to either be caught or paid off? Your bias is that you sort of believe that the parents are guilty in first place. I believe they are guilty most likely also but we can't say that for sure?
John went straight to JB's body
Here is a glaring problem.
Jon Benet screamed, and a neighbor heard it.
No one, would upon dealing with that, and then murdering Jon Benet, would then go upstairs, and make a 3 page note. It absolutely makes no sense.
On top of that, the note warned, do not notify the police, so what do responsible parents do?
They invite their friends over. That might have been the way the Ramsey's got rid of some of the evidence, and cause crime scene contamination.
Mr. Ramsey caused at least 2 crime scene contaminations, possibly 3 directly.
They never bothered missing waiting for the call from the kidnapper later that morning
The scream was from outside the house. The kidnappers got spooked and struck her on the head. They finished her kill in the wine cellar. They didn’t go back for the ransom note.
Normal parents of a kidnap victim would call friends to disperse and look for her, not hang around the house comforting the parents (who are also not engaged in searching)
@@vicksta8875 As I recall, the neighbor described it as a child's scream.
@@trishrandall5031 but these are not normal parents.
Once when my toddler thought it would be hilarious to hide from me, I was so frantic - I was hollering and throwing cabinets and appliance doors wide open, looking under beds, even looking in drawers - until I found her. My point is, when parents are confronted with a missing child, just sitting around waiting for the cops and chatting with friends, makes no sense to ANYONE who has ever been a parent. None of their initial behaviors made any sense to meet.
So true!! Even when our dog ran away my husband and I we're frantically searching for her in the woods in the pouring rain and we didn't stop until we found her. I was crying and inconsolable.. I can't even imagine what my reaction would be if it were my daughter.
I have to agree including with the fact they didn't open every door including small spaces where she was found, I've seen similar situations kids playing pranks and it's always terrifying to us adults ofc and we can basically remember whenever it's done to us because it scares us so bad yours is obviously burned into your memory, losing your kid for five seconds is borderline crazy but for hours and hours and not be in a total mental melt down or at least interested in the ransom call is weird even for me I can't say there's any good way to explain it or throw it off as just odditys
Very good point.
Everyone focuses on the fact that the “intruder” didn’t leave anything disheveled but two parents, who woke up to their daughter missing, and a ransom note, would be looking everywhere, both inside and out.
It wouldn’t take a cop suggesting it, hours later.
So someone broke in, took JonBenet from her room right down to the basement, killed her, wrote a 3 page ransom and no one woke up?? And on Christmas Day? No one is about on Christmas day. This case infuriates me 😡
Don’t try to grow a brain, Leighos , haha jk! A 3 page kidnapping ransom note, yet no kidnapping happened. Patsy’s demonstration, on how the content of this note dawned on her was priceless. I don’t remember seeing that clip before.
Wrote the psychotic note while waiting for the Ramseys to arrive home from the White's. Plenty of time to know the layout of house - if that person didn't already know. Then hid in basement until the family went to sleep.
This case seems like such an obvious case of corruption and rich people getting away with it. Its so obvious that someone in that house killed Jonbenet. John Ramsey doesn't even pretend anymore... how much of his fortune has he paid looking for his daughter's killers? That tells you all you should need to know.
@@nottthereyet4872there is no evidence of an intruder. The home was staged and the 3 page letter is a ridiculous ransom note dictated and placed there to cover up what really happened in that house.
I think Boulder LE looked the other way because they knew Burke did it and figured the family had already suffered enough. I don’t think Burke was remorseful. He looks like a robot/ sociopath. John and Patsy teamed up to keep up appearances at all costs.
You are right.
The note was specific- don’t call the police. Don’t tell anyone. The house is being watched.
But they call the police and friends to come over. That to me has always been so odd.
To me, this also fell in line with the fact that they never acknowledged that there was no phone call that came through at the 10:00am timeframe that was mentioned in the note. All of this indicates to me that they were not actually operating under a real threat imposed by an actual intruder.
Yes. The officer that was basically abandoned there by the police department had so many concerns.
Never exhibited any fear.
@@chg1264 She knew!!
@@afftongrown6445 Linda Arndt. Yes, she *knew.*
Human nature would be to pick up the note and read it. Run upstairs and show it to the husband. Then look for her, then call the cops.
Well if she noticed that the door was not as she normally left it why didn’t she immediately go into the bedroom as any parent would do
& Why wouldn't the parents think "someone has been/is in our house!" because someone wrote this note?! Are we safe?!
What about Burke? After they knew a kidnapper invaded their home, and abducted J.B. they left Burke completely alone upstairs TO SLEEP???!?
@@user-wd6js5fz9p Yes, one of the best points ever...no one has made yet! They would have grabbed him to protect him from the intruder who could still be in the house for all they supposedly knew! Patsy had been up late packing for their trip the next day. That note could have been left there 3 seconds ago, for all she knew! The "kidnappers" could have still been escaping with JonBenet for all they knew as well.
Thank you @@MLGA4872
Because they had burglar alarms everywhere that would've gone off if someone had broke in, or tried to open the door from inside without having the code.
And why would they not wake up Burke to see what he knew? 😊
And to be sure that he was there and alive! He could have shown up as taken on page three!
She didn’t say the door was ajar. She said it was closed. She said it was usually ajar.
I noticed that right off too.
If she noticed the door was closed and she usually leaves it open, then why didn't she check it right there? She never said she went in the room. That's very strange.
Patsy said “I USUALLY left it ajar” …. so did she leave it ajar the night before or did she close it?
Yes, that’s what she said.
I thought I heard that too
You are so right Nick. One would look everywhere inside outside at the neighbors and beyond. Regarding the note one would read it a hundred times as well
I would have gotten Burke up to help us look throughout the house with us and I would never have let him out of my sight.
You certainly would touch the note!!❤
The Grand Jury did vote to indict them, the DA decided not to follow it through
the DA only prosecuted 10% of incest / child abuse cases. He has been accused of being in a pedo ring. All alledged but makes sense. the Grand Jury wanted to indict, there was evidence.
A political power move by the DA?
@@seaglasscolorWe see a lot more of that now.
Lot more leniency when info is presented to a grand jury. And let's face it, the police were completely out of their competency range on this case. The parents did not do this imo. I at first thought they were guilty til I learned how much there are lies and disinformation on this case, starting with false info put out by police.
The Ramsey's were big democrat donors, that's number one. The second reason is that they knew there was no crazed child killer out there on the loose. They all conspired to sweep this tragedy under the rug in order to protect the remaining child.
What the Ramseys say about the note is what rings most untrue for me. No parents would skim or only read part of a ransom letter . Parents would be scouring that letter for every little clue to who wrote it so you could figure out who took the child. Genuine concerned parents would read and re read the letter . And when police arrive you would ask them is it possible to get a copy of it . They are so casual about what the letter says and the letter is quite frankly saying horrifying things for any parent to hear
@aliasgrape4274 If you knew anything about the case Patsy did read only the first few lines but when she made the 911 call John read and re read the ransom note over and over again.
Fyi the Police did make a copy of the note which was passed around for the Ramseys friends to read.
i agree the whole thing,.i remember this case, i was kinda obsessed with it. immediately sus the fam. first patsy, then when i learned john had another daughter who died under weird circumstances, and then burke, who i still think is a better candidate(with the 3 pg letter and the parents behaviorr) than some stranger who hid in the home and waited to do this awful thing, and write that very weird letter
@@izzyjones7108 John's daughter Elizabeth didn't die under weird circumstances.
Police investigated her car accident and found there were no suspicious circumstances.
Again the perpetrator was not a 'stranger'.
It was someone who knew the family.
@aliasgrape4274 Patsy read the first few lines but John read and re read the ransom note while Patsy called 911.
Police made a copy of it which was passed around for the Ramseys friends to read.
@@trishs4503 They were not thinking logically at the time.
They were very frantic.
If I were to "find" a note like this, I'd run straight to her room, then the boys' room screaming for John the whole time.
The neighbors would be awake .....
@BrendaT24 That's exactly what Patsy did.
When she found the ransom note she ran to Burke's room screaming hysterically "Oh My Gosh Where's my baby?".
"Where's my baby?".
"Where's my baby?".
@@user-ox1jw7ur6g
According to BURKE.
🙄
Strange how the parents are more willing to speak to the public than to the police. And they appear to supply too many random details to specific questions, almost as a distraction.
@5p674 Because the Police wanted to hang them not help them.
@@user-ox1jw7ur6gbecause the police were on them as the only potential witnesses that came close to the investigation
Would kidnappers stay in a house to write a 2 page ransom note? Think… The whole family is home, kidnappers take all that time to write a “story” ransom note.
They never went to police interview the police saw them on TV ! I think after that the of was suspicious they did finally have a police interview together
Yes, it’s a three page ransom note, and that would take a long time to write
Wrote the note first while waiting for the Ramseys to arrive back home from the White's. The note could have been an afterthought of a very disturbed individual.
@@nottthereyet4872 or it could be a horrible attempt to cover up their murder of their daughter. I always thought people who parade their little girl like an adult is weird .
@@playinragz8183 Maybe. But that's another reason why an intruder is high on my list of suspects.
Nick, I can remember back when the Ramsey's (particularly Patsy) described her discovery of the ransom note. Three pages spread out on a stair tread. This stuck with me because I could not imagine how she stepped over that stair to turn and read the note. My in-laws at the time owned a house which had a similar spiral staircase. There would be no way you could safely step over one step to the next, particularly with no light on. Way too dangerous. Plus, I would think the pages would shift or fall off that stair due to you trying to avoid stepping on them!
The steps look wide enough. Could have been enough open space to step around it.
And you would naturally step around it first to get in a better position to view it. You're not going to bend down from the step above it. That would awkward.
It's just skipping a step. She was young and not obese, she would have no problem skipping a step and turning around. No back flip and somersault required.
@@vicksta8875 So Patsy was walking down that staircase in pitch black darkness? Hmm.
I believe they had 2 staircases. One went directly into the kitchen area downstairs. She used it first which was common for her since getting up for the day meant getting a cup of coffee or glass of water.
The note… as I understand it… was on the front staircase .
@sheiladale6802 On the spiral staircase which I believe is considered the back staircase.
Imo the Ramseys took so much care to distance themselves forensically from the ransom note, by not touching it, so as not to leave their fingerprints on it, that they point a giant finger right at themselves.
As a mother, my first reaction to paper on a staircase would be to scoop it up, then to look at it.
If Patsy had done that and John had reported himself as saying something to the police about both of them having handled the note, before realising that they had possibly destroyed or desturbed evidence in the form of the abductor's fingerprints, l would find their story more credible.
The worst thing is that this shoddy piece of melodramatic nonsense succeeded in keeping a murderer from facing justice.
EXACTLY
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You are so right. I've seen so many programs/videos on the JonBenet case but not heard anyone make that point. Any parent who can't find a child starts calling their name - in the house, the park, wherever you are. And the longer you can't find them, the louder you call. They did NOT act the way that you would expect a "normal" person to act in that situation. First call out, then search EVERYWHERE. Great video, thank you ❤
Patsy said that when she glanced at the door it was closed although she always left it ajar.
Patsy didn't contradict herself at this time
He doesn’t like being corrected someone else tried
i immediately picked up on that and saw his replies to someone trying 2 tell him and, i wasnt impressed.
Oh I just wrote that too lol
@@izzyjones7108you can tell he likes sound of his own voice. I stopped watching after 5 minutes. Not impressed
2 Liars the letter is fake
It is an Identical match to Her writing. That to me says they are Liars here and are covering for either themselves, Burke or someone they Know that has been in hiding and unknown to this day
Would you want more consideration than that if it were you?
TCRS :
Can you do a clip on Burke’s psychological interviews, and when he was told his sister was dead, he responded ‘where was the body?’. Not where was she, where was Jon Benet? ….. ‘the body’ Unusual response for a child who has just lost his little sister. IMO
Ya that is sus. Im thinking either HE did it or he knows who did it and is covering for his parents.
He did do it@@HappyMealBieber
@@jeandalgleish6460 It all seems to go back to Burke
Yes, spot on Nick. I would have every light on, hollering my child's name, and have everyone looking in every possible corner. It's obvious to me, the Ramsey's know, and have to force this note to police. They act like complete fools for being highly educated people. Great clue.👍👍
Letter 3pages long is itself a joke. What killer stop to write. 3 pages? In the house
Unless the note was written before a botched kidnapping.@@lsc6159
@@lsc6159 no one would.
I called for my dog who took off chasing deer on our property and searched harder then they did for their child. We knew exactly what to do because it’s what you do when looking for someone you care about.
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I completely agree, however, wouldn’t the presence of a ransom note be a strong indication that the stated subject/victim is NOT in the home?
@@Mr20001 People must think JonBenet wrote the ransom note herself then decided to go hide somewhere for a joke.
@@user-ox1jw7ur6g I suppose so. I mean, I’m not saying I wouldn’t look but if I woke up to a strange note claiming to have my child, I’d think she wasn’t there. But hey, that’s just me.
I searched more frantically for my phone.
No kidnapper in their right mind would write an essay!
You are right. World experts in ransom situations said that the note in this case just doesn't fit. There has NEVER been a ransom note in history (let that sink in) that was three pages long more or less one page long. Ransom notes are about 2 to 3 sentences at most. I fully believe Patsy wrote the note. What foreign faction uses the word "hence" in a ransom note. A commonly used word that Patsy said in everyday conversation. I mean do they think we are stupid?
What got me is when the time came & went for the call from the kidnappers. Parents would literally have one hand on the phone and the millisecond that time past they would be hysterical. "WHY AREN'T THEY CALLING?!?!" WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?!?" WHAT DO WE DO NOW?!?!"
But these two, sat in separate rooms and never acknowledged the call not coming in.
The note said they'd call at ten or something, and no one, not even Linda Arndt, the only cop there, paid any attention to the damn phone...and no call ever came. So, I think we know why that is.
I worked in a mansion painting and I can tell you there were about 16 other people working there IN THE MANSION and I NEVER heard them walking, talking etc... most of the time that I was painting in the room I was in- that man could have been in that house and they would NOT have known at all, and unless you have worked in a mansion, you cannot understand that concept.
The dog......
Right, they opened their whole house to the public for a Christmas tour. An estimated 1,500 - 2,000 people went through their home. I think it would be challenging to keep track of so many people. Someone could’ve slipped into the basement and waited.
Most amazing is how Burke has held out from the truth this long.
I remember seeing footage from the psychologist that interviewed Burke after the murders. Wow.....those drawings. Something was really off. Now, he was a kid and I've always wondered if the kids were horsing around and he accidently killed her (hit on the head) and the mother covered it up because she didn't want to lose another child and have him live with the fact that he was responsible for his siblings death. Just a theory. But, then when he went on Dr. Phil's show....again...something off. I always though he might be slightly autistic. He's very devoted to his parents so I don't expect him to ever really reveal anything new.
How could their neighbor hear jon Benet scream but her parents didn't? ( if you believe their story)
@kimalonzo3363 An audiologist conducted tests and discovered noise made in the basement could not be heard in the parents bedroom.
There was a vent in the basement which carried noise to the outside of the house so that's how neighbours heard screams.
Tests carried out by the police showed that you could hear a scream in the basement from the the 3rd floor bedroom, although not all officers could hear the scream so it was dependent on how good the hearing of individuals were. She may not have been killed in the basement, she may have just been hidden there.
They probably did and lied
Nobody with a brain believes their story.
@@Plainandsimple25 No that's not true.
No noise at all that was made in the basement could be heard in the parents bedroom.
There was fresh snow on the ground and zero tracks around the house anywhere. Someone inside the house killed her. The End.
Pictures show snow in front yard only. Not in the back or by window where suitcase was in basement.
Not on sidewalks
No, it's proven that the pictures were taken much later so by then snow was gone
It snowed that night. This is a fact. There was a light/dusting/ frost on the walkways that morning as reported by Sgt Reichenbach. That is a fact.The temperature was in the single digits. That is a fact. The snow didn’t melt until later that day when it reached 50 +degrees.
They couldn’t risk leaving footprints/ or risk being seen. They couldn’t wait until later that day to remove her body, because they were leaving on a flight early that morning.
They could’ve moved her body later if Ardnt hadn’t told JR to search the house.
Why did JR go directly to the basement and more importantly the wine cellar.
When he was asked by Darnay Hoffman in his wolf case deposition, why he didn’t check the wine cellar when searching the house that morning, JR responded by saying that he knew that that room had no points of entry so he skipped it. Why then did that all of a sudden become the second most important room to check. Especially when detective Arndt told him to search top to bottom.
Why did the killer/s lock the top latch to the wine cellar when placing JonBenets body in there. They were leaving who cares if someone finds her.
There was no intruder!
bingo
The first thing you would do is call out Jon Benets name, repeatedly, loudly. Its obvious. Great video
This case needs to be reopened.
I don't think it's closed
Nope. They sue everyone who dares bring it up, and that is because they are protecting the one who did it.
No need…John is old, Patsy is in hell and if Burke was in any way involved, he was too young to be charged with anything at that time or anytime.
@@pesquallyflanger1319 So you’re saying that because of the distance of time that the perpetrators should be immune from prosecution?
@@mattprince9204 no I’m saying Patsy is dead, Burke can’t be charged with any crime because of his age at the time of her death and John is 80 and will never admit to anything.
If he would come clean for his part and take his 2-10 year prison sentence, that would be great. Never gonna happen
The worst moment is not when he found his deceased 6 year old?
Agree. Normally a crimonal is in a hurry to get away. The note was neatly written on paper from the house, and no footstep marks were found in the snow of the previous night
If a six year old is grabbed from her bed and carried down stairs, she'll scream
How can they have gotten away with this cover up? How?
@LR-yu3mx Not necessarily, if she's been tazed. Or waiting for that "special visit from Santa" after Christmas. Or half asleep.
@@velvetgardenia Money. And the botched police investigation.
TBH, I think they consulted their lawyer and told them what actually happened before they even called the police. Some of the bizarre choices they made seems like it would only have come from someone who really knows how to make conviction difficult. And that's what they did when decided to go straight to national media and turn it into a spectacle. It was damage to their character, The national spotlight makes it harder to conduct a fair trial. If things didn't go their way, they could cite that as a reason to do a retrial.
The police investigation was sloppy, but so was the coverup. To the point where it seem like their M.O. was diversion.
These folks are so sus.
What, the note was laid out on a step, sheet by sheet, face up? If there were three 8-1/2 x 11 sheets of paper, spread out on a regular width stair, I literally wouldn't be able to continue down the stairs unless I jumped the step - unless they have some grand Gone-With-The-Wind-type stairway. Give me a break.
Now, I understand parents wanting to protect the only child they have left, but this is going too far. They take the police and the public for fools.
Apparently they were right about the police. They handled it as well as the OJ Simpson police handled the blatant clues proving he killed Nicole.
I think Burke lost his temper “AGAIN “ and hit her with something, that killed her. They obviously protected him and the police went along with it. Money talks.
The most disturbing fact in this whole horrifying and suspicious murder is that no one has ever, nor may ever be held accountable and punished for what happened to this precious little girl RIP Jon Benet ❤
I understand your frustration. I think Jon Benets death was an accident, staged to look like a murder.
We live close to Boulder. After it happened, we were in Las Vegas , and a gal asked me about the crime. I said the parents did it and over the years have not changed my mind.
The parents didn't do it. The parents covered it up because their son did it without knowing what he was doing.
When the case first broke, I like most people, assumed the parents did it. Why?
Because the Tabloids and News Circuits put that sensational theory on BLAST for all to see.
Every single grocery line, newsstand and ongoing TV news feed.
The Ramseys were targeted with tunnel vision. It's no wonder they lawyered up and pushed back. LE did not do their due diligence from moment ONE.
Someone told that child she would be receiving a special visit from Santa after Christmas - which was verified by a neutral party. NOT the Ramseys.
But no one wants to discuss that key indicator of an intruder with a plan.
@@GirlVersusMonster I can see a boy accidentally killing get with a blow to the head. But the blow to her head was strategic to knock her out. Then she was strangled with a garrote . Then washed, clothes put on.
She said, "the door was closed. I mean I always left it ajar." She didn't contradict herself
So IF this ransom note was true, I would be concerned that these kidnappers was still in my home and with another child in the house, I would be franticly trying to get to my child's room to protect him, and then most definitely would be searching for my kidnapped daughter. Also, did they ever even call out for her??
Please verify my data, but this is what I recall.
We need context. Jon Benet had over 30 doctors visits. Burke hit her in the face with a golf club, requiring plastic surgery. Imagine, damaging the most precious part of a beauty queen. Also, Burke would smear feces on her bedding, even Christmas gifts. Burke got alot of attention, until Jon Benet, a model, becomes part of the family. Burke and Jon Benet were not naturally brother and sister, which leads to alot of implications. Envy, jealousy, which is the worst condition to be trapped in.
This pressure, along with Patsy's pressure, of constantly entering and preparing for pageants, made her incontinent.
Also, Jon Benet's dad, had a total disconnect. Mr. Ramsey lost a daughter named Beth, and was never the same. Mr. Ramsey even refers to Jon Benet as " the child". Also, Mr. Ramsey, upon finding and retrieving the body, holds the deceased Jon Benet VERTICALLY, and brings her upstairs, and puts her to the floor. Jon Benet was not even cuddled at her death.
Her body was stiff from rigor mortise.
Patsy was dressed in the clothes she had on the night before an had her make up on ..she never wore the same clothes twice ....the battery was wiped down even the batteries .she covered up for burke I honestly believe .....ugh 😭
Jonbenet and Burke were full siblings, same parents.
I heard a psychic opine on this case, and what she said really rang true. Mr. Ramsey was molesting the Jon Benet. It began when he was bathing her in the tub, and over time he lost his sense and began molesting her. This had to be covered up, as Jon Benet threatened to report it. She knew what her father was doing was wrong. She had to go. Burke was the one who actually finished her off. This psychic's explanation makes more sense than anything else I've heard.
That’s not true they were full siblings
The first words spoken during that first 911 call : “we’ve got a kidnapping “ are so so weird ! Who would put it like this ? ???
I believe 100% that the parents did this , I don’t know the motive but I guarantee they did it and covered up. The ransom note asked for 118,000 dollars the exact amount he got in his bonus pay , who else would have known that . Also the ransom note refers to stray dogs , this is an unusual saying , John Ramsey said years later in a police interview my wife lets stray dogs in the house referring to strangers she invites in. He was not referring to the note.
every damn source of light would be used immediately..... i think they were protecting someone ...and who could that be ?
Someone has a great question regarding the pineapple ... who was left handed ? The spoon was to the left ! Hmmm
But it isn't Burke. There is no true proof he did it. He might be carrying knowledge of what happened, but please it isn't him.
- There was no intruder.
- The ransom note was an absurdly worded diversion written by Patsy.
- Since the ransom note was written by Patsy, it was to cover up what happened.
- Since it was to cover up what happened, then someone in the house killed Jonbenet...and not a 9 year old boy.
Jonbenet first suffered a traumatic brain injury from a blow to the head. Why? Well a moment of temporary rage from a stressed and tipsy Patsy fits the coming pieces....
Patsy strikes Jonbenet's head, or smashes it into something because....well, we will never really know exactly why but the rage about her bed wetting scenario fits here. It seems quite plausible that the abrasion on JB's vagina could've come from Patsy harshly wiping that area of hers out of frustration on repeated occasions and on the evening she died. Jonbenet also had a mark on her cheek consistent with slapping. Patsy couldn't stand that this little project of hers that she put so much time and effort into molding into the perfect little princess was doing something so vile and "unclassy" as peeing her bed.
Jonbenet starts seizing and then Patsy comes to realize the severity of what she just did. Patsy tries to revive her which could have caused some of the unexplained marks on her.
Patsy is understandably frantic and as she is trying to recover from the shock of the condition she put her daughter in, she's coming to grips with the fact this will destroy her life. She is going to lose her status in the community in the most extreme sense imaginable by being seen as a child murderer, her own child at that, and will go to prison.
Patsy tries to figure out what to do, how to explain it, should I call 911, should I not...
Patsy either wakes John up or he wakes up on his own after hearing commotion and Patsy probably lied to him about what happened. Maybe she said she found Jonbenet dead with a head wound...or maybe said she thinks she fell...or maybe she even alluded to some culpability by saying that she blacked out and when she woke up Jonbenet was dead.
Whatever the case, with John now aware that his daughter is dead or very close to it due to a blow to her head, he knows that they are both in hot water and he may also be blamed for this.
So now, they have to explain this away....
The first thing anyone in their position would think to do would be to blame someone else - like some sick, twisted evil intruder.
But it doesn't seem very believable that an intruder broke into a random house and killed a child for no reason. Nope. The intruder has to know who the Ramseys are and that they are wealthy and planned to kidnap their child for ransom. Ah yes a ransom, that is the kind of thing that happens to wealthy folks.
Cue in the ransom note.
I have no doubt that the ransom note was written by a woman, the emotion in it, the phrasing, some of the "feminine touches" that analysts have pointed to.
There's also glaring differences in the way men convey themselves through writing vs womem and a woman will take 3 pages to write something that a man would do in 1.
And the note is just ridiculous, a "Foreign faction"? Who refers to themself as a foreign faction? "Beheadings"? "Ok, it's nonsense and is clearly from a person pretending to be something they aren't while at the same time trying to disguise themselves.
The inclusion of John's bonus was a smokescreen.
But if Jonbenet died from blunt force trauma that will still make them suspects so they have to make it look like she died from something else....like strangulation. So John comes up with the idea of making her look like she was strangled - but even better, strangled with something else, like a garrote, because of course the evil intruder would use murder devices. It's a convenient idea because using a garrote means that neither John nor Patsy will have to put their hands directly on her and risk the police matching their hand size or hand prints to her neck.
John probably came up with the garrote idea, it's not a common knowledge device and the only time you see people killed with a garrote is in movies, more specifically in the kind of movies that men like to watch, such as mafia movies or James Bond flicks.
So John instructs Patsy to bring him some items to fashion a garrote from and Patsy retrieves some of her paintbrushes. She then removes some rope from an item they possessed in the home....
An autopsy states that the strangulation was the cause of death and could have happened as long as an hour + after the strike to the head which fits this scenario. So Patsy and John either thought she was already dead OR it's also possible that they realized she WASN'T actually deceased....but was in such bad condition with irreversible damage and almost just as bad as killing her.
They know it's devastating for a tiny girl to suffer such a head injury and she will probably eventually die from it anyway - and if she doesn't die, it's likely she will be a vegetable for the rest of her life.
Patsy won't be able to parade her little beauty queen around in cowgirl suits and bikinis anymore if she's braindead in a wheelchair - and especially not if Patsy is in prison.
These are two people who were obsessed with image, status, reputation and class almost to the point of narcissistic tendencies and their daughter was an extension of that. For Christ's sake John made up Jonbenet's name by combining his own first and middle names.
So John strangled Jonbenet with a garrote, either to finish her off because the damage was done or to throw off the cause of death... or both.
Whatever the case, the cover-up continues...
Then the Ramseys also cover her mouth with duct tape and tie her wrists which would further point to the actions of a kidnapper.
Then they have to delay the discovery of Jonbenet as long as possible, so where do they put her? In the least obvious part of the home of course, a remote part of the basement behind a door.
Jonbenet is covered in a blanket, a sign of caring, as both parents do love her and are saddened by her death and didn't intend to kill her.
As much thought as they put into the staging of the crime scene they forgot one big part - to stage a break in. Which isn't surprising because with all the anxiety someone experiences in such a hasty and stressful situation to cover up a crime, people always overlook things, sometimes major things.
Then the Ramseys go over everything, get their story straight then place the 911 call.
The police show up and see no signs of forced entry and are made to believe she was taken from her bedroom and they place their focus there, just like the Ramseys wanted. Then of course they begin tainting the scene.
7 hours later John "finds" Jonbenet which he intended to do all along so he could pick her up, touch her and move her, as him carrying her would be a way to contaminate evidence and possibly explain away any of his DNA being found on her from the earlier strangulation and moving of the body.
As bizarre as the scene of the crime is, The Ramseys succeeded in creating enough alternate theories that point away from them being responsible for their child's accidental killing and shield themselves from prosecution.
First of all, this situation with JonBenet's death is heartbreaking. But when I watched the part of Patsy waving her hands, and saying, "...don't know what to do..." I knew it reminded me of something I had viewed when I was younger.
See the clip on RUclips..."Went with the Wind" The character is Vicki Lawrence when she is hysterical. Patsy reminded me of that episode of Carol Burnett. Miss Scarlett slaps the character played by Vicki. When Patsy is carrying on about "...don't know what to do..." I thought of this skit.
Complete with the scene of the spiral staircase. What to be clear, I am not making light of the death of JonBenet. But her mother's "waving hands" and her words of not knowing what to do reminded me of this Carol Burnett episode.
John Ramsey's and Gerry McCann's answers and statements are unbelievably bizarre.
Good point about calling the child's name.
5 yo dressed as a 20 year old sex object, John deliberately contaminating scene where body was found…Jonbebet with enureses and undetermined signs of abuse…so sadly obvious😢mother drugged John flat affect…❤. No tears no affection for jonbenet…no one concerned for ransom call…disgrace …😢
Most of us know the GMcC story here in the UK...just heavily censored
@@williamrae9954 im in a community that has covered Madelines case since it happened. Both on YT and facebook, if anyone is interested 💙
@@williamrae9954 lol in the uk?? everyone in the world knows this
@@JC-qb2qj Bet you don't, all the 'James Bond' stuff?
It’s so weird that their first reaction was immediately to call the police when the note expressly told them not to do so. There was no argument or discussion between them as to whether or not to do that. Conversely, you would think that “Do not call the police” would be the first thing the author of the note would write, not wait until half way through it.
You are right. You start calling for the kid.
The note was bizarre because Patsy is the one who wrote it. I have no doubt about that.
@@danmcn61 That has never been proven.
@@user-ox1jw7ur6g It was not proven legally because Ramsey colluded with the District Attorney's office and was able to block the investigation. That does not mean that it didn't happen.
@@user-ox1jw7ur6g Handwriting analysis *proved it.*
I think a HUGE mistake the Ramsey's made was not even mentioning, let alone obsessing, about the promised phone call from the kidnappers. The detective on the scene said she noted that they seemed to have forgotten about it, when, if you believe someone has your little girl, it would be the most prominent thing in your mind unless something happened to change that fact, which at the time the call was expected, nothing had!
PR wrote the note. The grand jury returned 2 indictments against them for knowing of a dangerous issue in the home and ignoring it and knowing the killer's identity but not revealing it to help that person avoid prosecution.
The son? I believe Patsy wrote the note. After Burke killed his sister. They covered for him.
Nick, this is definitely one of your best explanations for why and how the Ramseys behaved as they did. You poked more holes in their story than a tin colander!!
You misheard what Patsy said she said, the door was closed, I usually leave it ajar.
I think you misheard what I said.
@@TCRS I think what the original comment, and what I took it to mean, is the nuance..."The door was closed this time, which I noticed as strange, because I usually leave it ajar".
If it was closed and she normally leaves it ajar why didn’t she open the door and look to see her daughter was in her room or have I got the statement wrong? This crime is so sad that there has been no justice for Jon Bennet 🕊️
@@donnachampion3169 Yes, true. I'm sure there is plenty that could be asked around this- I just took her initial statement to mean what I expressed above, rather than how TCRS took it, to mean a "slip-up" and then correcting herself :)
@@TCRSno you misspoke
I had to think of a time when my cat was "missing".(I know it is not a child, however, in my heart, he is my child) You don't call anyone at first. you would look for your child anywhere, even in cabinets under a sink or bathroom. Then you would look around the perimeter of your home. If you have cameras. you would look there. If you don't have cameras, ask the neighbors if nobody in your home knows the child's whereabouts. This is just me, I would already be in a threatening mode by the time I need to call the police, which I never had to do. Mr. Ramsey and Burke need to cut the crap.
So she walks out of her bedroom notices her daughter bedroom door is not as she left then continues on to finding papers strewed on the stairs any mother would have immediately checked on her child
I enjoyed this prerecorded analysis. Thanks for keeping this case for little jon Benet alive. ❤😢
When my puppy went missing (she got up the stairs into the attic, we didn't know she could do that) I freaked tf out and went charging around the house like a lunatic screaming her name. If someone had left a note I would have been incapable of reading it. But once made aware there was a note, I would have looked for my other animals in fear for them too if they weren't attracted by all my panicked hollering.
"Small foreign faction" - B.S. ransom note from the very beginning ! And a practice note too....
The “ we don’t know what to do “ part is them describing how they felt when the realized Burke killed Jonbenet ( allegedly).
Agree.
Only for me it's the mom or the dad who killed her. I lean more towards the mom. jonbenet was wetting the bed and that angered patsy and in her anger she killed her. I mean she is a beauty queen peeing the bed. How many people kill their kids because they pee somewhere they shouldn't think poor Harmony Montgomery to name just one. For the dad I think he could have been SAing her and that caused her to pee the bed due to the trauma. If that theory is correct, he might have killed her.
Another thing if this happened on Christmas day what household sleeps much with kids. The kids have a hard time falling asleep and get up earlier than usual. That's been my experience.
Bingo
@@othellewis8931i say burke and dad, mom wrote the note, poor jonbenet, smh
@@othellewis8931 lol ok
You have nailed it. The feeling the parents did not respond in a believable fashion always haunted me and most people. Thank you for your perspective on this aspect of the case. Genius.
I totally agree. I lost my 2 year old son one day and I paniced, running thru the house yelling his name, the basement door was closed so I didn't think he was down there so I went outside into the yard calling his name, the neighbors heard me and they came searching with me, calling his name to, we eventually found him curled up in a chair in a dark room in our basement.He had never gone downstairs by himself before.
So , I absolutely agree you would go running, yelling your childs name!
@nancyhiple1234 Losing your son and finding a ransom note saying your child has been kidnapped are two completely different things.
look up the definition of loss, it might surprise you.
NO FINGERPRINTS? It is impossible on a spiral staircase to step over the note, especially coming down, then not only impossible to step over it again on the way back up to get John. A normal most common reaction would have been to pick up the note once down the steps. He said she had the note? Nope. No sense at all. John would have taken the note from her to read it.
I have become convinced that all three of them are lying. They are all covering for each other for some reason
bingo. and the fact that little girl was always going to the Dr. for blatter infections and jonhn had been molesting her .he was hurting her and he panicked and choked her to shut her up from screaming
....the lack of URGENCY speaks volumes 😢
Great indepth investigation, alot to peel away
Thank you Nick
❤
Yes. Biological and instinctive for parents to call name(s) of missing child/ children . Anything else is an aberration 😢
She ran down stairs but she Tell's the 911 operator what the note says how did she taking the note down with no finger prints
They knew she would not ansqer
Patsy did it. Her handwriting is spot on I'll never believe otherwise ever
she wrote the note, it had lines that were in a book on a bedside table in their bedroom and she was ambidextrous. Burke knows what happened and doesn't care.
They got away with murder/cover up. Nick can stay calm as he researches events. I calm down knowing he pursues truth & doesn't give up.
Burke answered Dr Phil question about if he killed her he responded where is the evidence .
@DreamsOfFinland There were no lines from any books in the ransom note.
There were lines from about 6 movies in the note.
Learn the facts.
i agree, they got away with it, because, sadly, Justice doesnt matter when u have money
@@user-ox1jw7ur6g there were lines from both film and books
@@izzyjones7108 Oh and what were the lines from books?.
Wealthy people do go to prison too in case you didn't know.
Great content. I enjoy all of your videos, in particular, the way you seem to take a peek under the bonnet to consider what might be motivating their comments and what we could expect to be usual behaviour under such circumstances. I think it's easy for people to get so caught up and empathise with the very human element of how we might feel going through the experience ourselves without stepping back to ask ourselves what we would actually do and how we would really behave in the same circumstances. Yes, in the rare, chilling, heart stopping seconds where I've not immediately seen one of my children when they were standing by my side one second in the toy aisle, but suddenly slipped an aisle over, my brain didn't override the natural reaction to immediately call out loudly for them for an urgent response. I didn't presume anything except the immediacy that I must find them whilst also keeping my other 2 children safe and secure with me. I'd think a normal reaction would be to urgently have Burke in my touch and seeking answers whilst also frantically searching and calling out. A mother's normal response is to keep ALL their babies safe. I honestly don't know that I'd have the patience to read a long letter whatsoever without first racing around with my son and searching. If my husband were there and calm, I'd likely thrust the note at them to read with other instructions. I imagine it could be distressing for Burke, but by the same token, him being left alone, possibly hearing panic and fear, would be extremely frightening too and I'd rather know he's right by my side safe. Also, the brain must know what happened to their little girl and therefore is overriding attempts to fake act and call out for a child. The brain is not playing along with efforts to pretend, as seen in the Kris case.
1st...WHY spread the letter on the freaking floor? WHO would do that , with tables and counters in the house ...lies !
Too much crap on the counters 😉
@@deborahmcdonald4371 yes. Too much crap scattered and tossed everywhere. The Christmas season must have been insanely busy.
When asked what the worst moment was...should have said, "knowing that pictures of the inside of our house would be taken for the public to see what a pigsty we live in."
Enjoying the discussion.
However, if my husband and I found any note of any length in the morning at the bottom of our stairs, my first thought is OMG. SOMEONE has been in our home while we were sleeping.
Checking the ENTIRE house would not be my first instinct.
Calling 911 for assistance would be.
I would ASSUME that whoever left that psychotic note has already accomplished his or her mission.
I would take the note at face value and not waste another minute of time before seeking assistance.
@trishs4503 Trish - it's simply an adjective describing a person with inappropriate behavior most likely accompanied by delusion.
If it is not a textbook definition of the A-Hole who committed this horrendous crime, then I defer to your higher education and superior knowledge in this field.
But this is the second time you have asked me the same exact question.
So, I assume you are actually challenging my theory of what happened that night.
What's your take?
Thank you for continuing to dig into this case, Nick. I never tire of hearing some new thoughts you have about it. Please keep chipping away at this case and the McCanns, especially.
Agreed. I don’t want this unsolved case to fade away.
Burke was awake and what is so strange is that John when straight to where jonbenet was in the basement i think it is so strange and that someone in the house killed her either pasty or john or burke but one of them did it
Let's face it. Burke accidentally killed her and the parents covered it up. Can you blame them? Well, maybe, but parental instinct is strong.
Did he molest her too? She was molested and had a grommet on her wrists with a distinctive nautical knot in it. Did a little boy do all that? I sure hope you've never been called for jury duty.
He was nine, I could never see it but things do make more sense with this scenario. I have some issues with it but JonBene was Pasty’s life; father’s was work & then the lonely forgotten, disturbed because of it, Burke. Too much time has past and maybe the culprit.
exactly! there you say it! it looks like she knew from a couple of lines that it was serious, was true and she knew that her daughter was really abducted. they never say when they read the letter in full, there are bits and pieces missing in the sequence,- and the most annoying thing is, that no reporter, nor investigator goes into questioning seconds actually until the police arrived. sad! also if patsy really rushed into burke's room, i doubt that he wouldnt have woken up. he would have! and as a 9 years old, he would have been up n about to see what was going on. i highly doubt that he was asleep especially when the police have arrived? no way! and also, wouldnt you, as a parent want to keep your other child in close eyesight next to you? how did they know that he was safe??
Even the reporters dropped the ball in this case… of course, these were hand picked by the Ramsay’s to tell their “story’…
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What a considerate intruder that must have been! He stunned JonBenet before picking her up along with his stun gun, duct tape, cord, her blanket, and her pillow… and he closed JonBenet’s door on his way out of her bedroom. Not only that, after molesting the girl he closed the door behind him as he left the wine cellar, even closing the tab to keep the door secure. And finally, he closed the window after stepping up through it off the suitcase. Well, he almost closed it, but a 1/8” crack isn’t so bad considering he had to get away quickly.
Right? It's all so preposterous
My problem with the Ramseys and the McCanns is that they immediately left their remaining children alone with a possible abductor in immediate area....This is simply unbelievable unless they know there is no actual danger. (Kate ran off leaving the twins) (Patsy kept Burke alone in his room)
I have used spiral stairs on many occasions. I would tend to think that Patsy should have stepped on the ransom note if she didn't place it or know that it was already there. Especially, if she didn't turn on lights. Just my thoughts.
My first instinct would be to pick the paper up, not get down on all fours to read it. Did Patsy need reading glasses?
Yes, I thought it strange too, especially for John to read the note spread out on the floor. Patsy
also; she would surely grab at the note trying to make sense of it, even if she hadn't read all of it. The strangest thing is there are no prints on any of the 3 sheets of paper, yet one of them must have removed the note from the stairs to the floor for John to read if that's what happened, and if the note was on the stairs.
She knew she wrote the letter with gloves so she was trying to make sure that her fingerprints was not on it, but she forgot her fingerprints had to be on it if she found it they didn’t think that out clearly
@@humanhairsheneedhairtutori1833How could they think clearly at all after what had happened, a hell night. Its all so odd and surreal.
Kidnappers: we have your daughter, we are watching you, do not call police or we will decapitate her...
John & Patsy: immediately call police, find deceased daughter inside the house, feel absolutely zero guilt about calling the police.
Curious
What something seriously chilling?
Remember Patsy Ramsey at one interview, wearing her blue dress?
Look at the white lining surrounding her neck. It looks like a WHITE NOOSE.
Patsy was a dress queen. She knows exactly what she chose to wear.
Weirdly there is a theory that she wore clothes with white piping, because Jean Brodie, in the film The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie, wore a similar style. Patsy had reacted a scene from the film for one of her own beauty queen contests. But it was a theory I read, and not certain at all it is a link
What was going on in that household before the murder????Ive read nothing about the months before.
We need context. Jon Benet had over 30 doctors visits. Burke hit her in the face with a golf club, requiring plastic surgery. Imagine, damaging the most precious part of a beauty queen. Also, Burke would smear feces on her bedding, even Christmas gifts. Burke got alot of attention, until Jon Benet, a model, becomes part of the family. Burke and Jon Benet were not naturally brother and sister, which leads to alot of implications. Envy, jealousy, which is the worst condition to be trapped in.
This pressure, along with Patsy's pressure, of constantly entering and preparing for pageants, made her incontinent.
Also, Jon Benet's dad, had a total disconnect. Mr. Ramsey lost a daughter named Beth, and was never the same. Mr. Ramsey even refers to Jon Benet as " the child". Also, Mr. Ramsey, upon finding and retrieving the body, holds the deceased Jon Benet VERTICALLY, and brings her upstairs, and puts her to the floor. Jon Benet was not even cuddled at her death.
What do you mean when you say Burke and J.B weren't naturally brother and sister?@@michaeld2716
I'm telling you the feces is a huge red flag
Make me wonder if it was Jon benet wetting the bed ugh
@michaeld2716 what do you mean that Burke & JonBenet were not natural brother & sister? I thought they both were Jon & Patsy's kids?
Finally can link a face to the voice 🤘🍀
If i found a ransom note that said ‘we have your dog’ as the first line, I wouldn’t read the next three pages, i would run around my house looking for my dog.
(The door) She said “IT’S CLOSED, I’M,… I ALWAYS LEFT IT AJAR” does not match with your comment.
This narrator is in his own little world. He expects critical thinking from frantic parents.
How is John's answer not "the moment i found her in the basement, realizing my daughter was dead."!! When asked - "what was the worst moment that night?". I can't imagine any parent finding their child like Jon'benet was found and that not being the worst moment of their Life without having to think about it.
@@vicksta8875 true, i forgot he lost a daughter before. Jon'bebet.
his older daughter also died with suspicious circumstances,
@@vicksta8875 that doesnt make sense , grief and death etc arent something that one only experiences once??
@@Ims51 Honestly I cannot imagine a reporter/newscaster asking such a question.
@@izzyjones7108 It was a car wreck and what were the suspicious circumstances? John Ramsey has never said in any interview I’ve seen that it was suspicious.
Damn.... even more convincing it does not ad up. He sais... "she's holding the note" ... damn. And later on the floor?? What the f?
Burks reaction does give the feeling he was hiding / pretending sleeping, because he knows something.. Maybe afraid of some harsh words to him, if he reacts...sooo play opossum.
Thanks for your Bulldog handling of this case. Keep holding on to it / not letting go.
And... they do ot say her name... weird as F
When Burke was first interviewed, the most telling thing is he genuinely didn't know what the bowl.of pineapple was when he was shown a photo. He guessed at it as being cereal and it does look like cornflakes on the photo. He wouldn't have any prior knowledge of the bowl being possible evidence. He was 9. The golf club incident was an accident. The smearing of faeces , is it Burke, did it happen? The candy box smeared with faeces, is that a reaction after little Jonbenet having an accident in bed. Had she had an upset tummy, why had her red top been rinsed out in her bathroom. It would be easy to replace her bedding with clean linen. 2 black bin bags tied at the top are evident in the shower cubicle in the basement, could they have held the soiled linen. But I still can't believe either parent would go on to stage the scene in such a horrific way
Great points made! The Ramseys covered up what really happened to JB.
Still believe JR got his 33rd degree freemason that christmas.
I love the new graphics, art, music and the show format. I like breaking down interviews and interrogations. ❤Nick, thank you for being the only true crime channel I need to get into the psychology of crime. I am especially interested in the psychology of criminals having encountered several myself.
They both walked a fine line and disassociated themselves from the note as much as possible to avoid police questioning. It pretty obvious who wrote it
Great video! I’m a relic from the Justice for Jonbenet and Websleuths days, and you have brought up so many excellent points that were not widely discussed back in the day. On a gut level, it’s clear that Patsy engineered the cover-up and John played along. She obvious,y wrote the note, and the pursuit of potential intruders has been a distraction all along.
Is my memory correct that there was fresh snow outside, however, no footprints were present to/from house?
I'm glad you keep posting updates and hope this case is finally solved sometime soon. It's been long enough.
The McCanns also instantly "knew" Madeleine had been taken and never searched for her either. I think the original plan was to take JonBenet's body with them on the trip they were supposed to be going on that morning, consealed in the suitcase from the basement, hidden in plain sight amongst their other baggage. They then could have left the body elsewhere and if/when it was found claim JonBenet was killed because they didn't follow the instructions in the ransom note, but the police wouldn't allow them to go on the trip so their plan had to be changed.
That Is a very good possibility. I also Consider the possibility that she was not actually alive when they got home.
5:39 Patsy's over acting reminds me of Amber Heard.
Same with Maddie McCann ..they NEVER say that they ran around calling for Maddie!
How do you NOT yell out for her & search EVERYWHERE?
But still all of these years later..why a 3 PAGE "ransom" note & she was NEVER actually taken.
Your best video yet!..I think the format of you evaluating the interview of the Ramseys was very well conceived. You point out things that should be obvious to all , but aren't until you do.
You did a very good job at analyzing the parent's role in this murder case.
Wow, Nick!! I hadn't even noticed that she didn't say anything about yelling or calling out for Jonbenet. That's the first thing you do, if your child is missing, even temporarily.