Yamaha Tracer Updates for 2025 - The Era of Automatic Transmissions

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  • Опубликовано: 15 дек 2024

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  • @bluesaga
    @bluesaga Месяц назад +1

    looking forward to seeing what yamaha and other companies bring next year!

  • @alinwithther6
    @alinwithther6 2 месяца назад +1

    I also look forward to the all new Tracer to come out, i can see you are using the angled bit i've given you 💪
    My view is once you get used to an automatic transmission, you will get so comfortable with it and will never look back, my case with the car, is so much easier to drive, and i will presume is the same with the bikes, however, i haven't tried one to see if i actually like it or not,
    The only problem with any automatic gearboxes on a motorbike, is that it takes away that feeling that you are actually in control, but on the other hand with this modern technology these gearboxes are so much tech involved that ase safe and also can have an override option and you will have more time to enjoy that Durmitor National Park 😂
    well done, great video!

    • @SergeyVikultsev
      @SergeyVikultsev  2 месяца назад +1

      That adapter does a brilliant job, mate! I think that in the future, automatic (AT) gearboxes will dominate the industry. We will find a way to enjoy riding AT bikes, just like with cars. I can easily drive both types, but for some cars, I prefer an automatic transmission, while for others, I want that raw experience. In my opinion, there’s room for everything.

  • @monawoka97
    @monawoka97 2 месяца назад +2

    I'm quite a fan of the e-clutch. It strikes me as a really nice middle ground between dct and manual transmission. I commute on my bike 3 days a week and stop and go traffic would be way, way better with an e-clutch.

    • @SergeyVikultsev
      @SergeyVikultsev  2 месяца назад

      Thanks for sharing! Why in your opinion e-clutch is better in stop and go traffic compared to DCT?

    • @monawoka97
      @monawoka97 2 месяца назад

      @@SergeyVikultsev Oh a DCT is definitely better in traffic. I should clarify I use my bike half for commuting on weekdays and half for fun on the weekends. So I feel like an eclutch is a good compromise between the convenience of a DCT and the engaging riding experience of a traditional clutch. I like that I can come to a complete stop without holding in the clutch lever, but remain in gear, which is safer when in traffic. But I also like that it's basically just a really nice quick shifter when you're chasing down some twisty roads on the weekend :)

  • @RRRRefuelRideRace
    @RRRRefuelRideRace 2 месяца назад +5

    I rode the NT1100 DCT from Honda and I what are the advantages of having the DCT transmission (they also work very well), but personally I would always rather have the manual transmission. It keeps you engaged when you are riding and it is way more fun to shift than just use the throttle. Do you know anything about the new FJR? I saw some videos on YT, but they can be all fake. Great video Sergey. I enjoyed. Take care. Cheers.

    • @SergeyVikultsev
      @SergeyVikultsev  2 месяца назад +1

      I do think manual transmission has more raw feel to it. Just like I said I personally like it, but as an industry moving forwards, all sort of automatic transmissions and e-clutches will dominate the market for sure.
      As per new FJR, I do not see that motorcycle is coming any time soon. Yamaha only focused on two engines right now - CP2 and CP3, so those are ones we see in all new bikes. And there is no place for FJR, at least for now.

    • @RRRRefuelRideRace
      @RRRRefuelRideRace 2 месяца назад +2

      @@SergeyVikultsev Thanks Sergey. I have very similar thought regarding the transmissions and also the FJR. Would be very interested in the new FJR if it would be announced. :)

    • @BlackBirdieGolf
      @BlackBirdieGolf Месяц назад +1

      @@RRRRefuelRideRace I'm hoping the 2025 FJR will have all the new updates technically as the new tracers. I read that it will have a new windshield, YAMT and a new navigation screen. I was looking at the FJR because it's similar to the BMW RT I had. The goldwing even in the bagger version felt a little to heavy. not as nimble as the BMW. I think the FJR would be great with the tracer updates. I am going to test ride the new tracer when it comes to the states. They said the seat is flatter and has more cushion.

    • @RRRRefuelRideRace
      @RRRRefuelRideRace Месяц назад +1

      I agree avout the Tracer 9 updates that could be on the new FJR. However I can only hope that it will be introduced on EICMA 2025. Great comment bro. You can check my content if you havent already. Ride safe. Cheers.

  • @BlackBirdieGolf
    @BlackBirdieGolf Месяц назад +2

    Is the FJR1300 going to have that new transmission also?

    • @SergeyVikultsev
      @SergeyVikultsev  Месяц назад +1

      I afraid no. In most of the countries FJR has been discontinued. I am not sure Yamaha will bring it back. But who knows.

    • @BlackBirdieGolf
      @BlackBirdieGolf Месяц назад +1

      @SergeyVikultsev oh gotcha. I know they haven't changed anything since 2014 and still selling it as if they are 2024s. Lol I've saw a guy buy a 2023 last year on RUclips.

  • @BBFazer
    @BBFazer 2 месяца назад +1

    Heey Sergey, have you bought some new camera's. Your drivingvideo looks soo much steadier. Your video made me think about automatic transmissions.
    In the Netherlands Gebben motoren already has the ,mt 09 y-amt for testrides. The mt mode of the transmission functions just like my former FJR 1300 AS. It worked very well and I missed it when I bought my motorcycle after the FJR. and now on my tracer7.
    The At function alone that Yamaha now brings is not perfect, because many testriders complained about the "wrong"moments the ecu shifted in the next or former gear. But as I suspected, the at function with sometimes deliberatly shifting manualy as in the mt function worked perfect. If you drive along on f.i. a twisty road, then you can let the bike do all the shifting. But if i want to shift down before a corner I can still do that manually for one or two gears. Also when passing a car fast. I shift down a gear (or two) with my finger by pushing the lever and I pass the car very fast. Afterwards, I normally drive on in my own speed, the ecu notices the slight closing of the throttle and it shifts up like I normally would do. The same goes for corners If I want to exit as fast as possible. So the at mode (with d+) works great in combination with the manual shifting. I think this will be the main selling way of shifting in the future, and yamaha did a very very good job by tuning this very light system the way they did.. Quickshifters will disapear within a few years in favour of automatic transmissions in this form.

    • @SergeyVikultsev
      @SergeyVikultsev  2 месяца назад +1

      Hey, yes, I am trying to improve videos a bit :) I agree that Yamaha did a great job with automatic clutch (that what it is). As always, first generation of anything is not perfect. But how I see it developing further 1) they will improve algorithms and update software when you visiting the dealer. 2) As some cars do, they learn from drivers behaviour and then adjust shifting to your riding style, that doesn't happen instantly, but needs some time for electronics to learn from you. Don't know what Yamaha actually did, but I guess one of those scenarios can be the way they are planning to improve Y-AMT.

    • @BBFazer
      @BBFazer 2 месяца назад

      @@SergeyVikultsev yes, that sounds very likely. A great time to follow developments. 😁👍

  • @stevedavies-pp7dp
    @stevedavies-pp7dp 2 месяца назад +1

    I can’t workout go Yamaha producers tracer without wings yet place the same engine in the R9 where wings are required to keep the front end down with all that power

    • @MajorNoje
      @MajorNoje 2 месяца назад +2

      The wings are not required. It actually is a weird trend. Because in corners you don't want downforce at both sides.
      The longer swingarm helps a lot more with keeping the bike on 2 wheels.

    • @SergeyVikultsev
      @SergeyVikultsev  2 месяца назад +3

      Why would you need wings on a motorcycle like Tracer? The bike is not just designed for high speeds or proper track use.

    • @SergeyVikultsev
      @SergeyVikultsev  2 месяца назад

      I am not a big fan of wings either.

    • @MajorNoje
      @MajorNoje 2 месяца назад

      @@SergeyVikultsev that the point. You wouldn't ever need them. Even on most sport bikes... The avarage joe on the track doesn't even need it.