ULTIMATE $1,000 used laptop? Apple Silicon vs Intel Mac vs PC
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This is a straight-up head-to-head comparison between 3 unlikely rivals, all for one thousand dollars! We have a Razer Blade 15 with RTX 2080 Max Q, the 13 inch MacBook Pro with M1 chip Apple Silicon, and a 2019 core i9 15 inch MacBook Pro. All of these can be had for around the same price and you'd be surprised in how many ways they compete and overlap! Today we'll take a look at all 3 to see where the benefits lie!
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Since i like to play games the razer blade.
macOS is trash
So Razer Blade is the only option
Give me a Thermal Grizzly Repasted i9 MacBook ( 2TB, 32GB RAM, Radeon 8GB ) and we are good to go 😂
Hey Luke.
for my 14 Year old Son,i would go for the razerblade hè is in to gamining and now use my macbook 15 2015 2,2 whithout graphic only iris which i Made a Windows 10 machine.
For my 16 year daughter i would choose the M1 macbook she likes insta RUclips enz she bought a iPad pro but watch mostly RUclips on mY old iMac 27 2010 i3 which i did clean the display changed the harddrive for 500 gb ssd and ram to 16 gb iT is stil impressie for the age.
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I had the same issue with my 2018 Razer Blade. Turned out the battery had expanded a some which was pushing on the back of the trackpad. I replaced the battery and the trackpad was great.
My brother had the same issue, and was able to do the batt replacement himself.
I have the 2021 blade 15, the dive board trackpad mechanism is light years behind the MacBooks, how it is 2022 and modern windows laptop still only allow u to click on the bottom part of the trackpad lmao
Yep same battery issue with my old Razer Blade 2018, it also ran super hot all the time, even when doing simple stuff. Ended up selling it, wouldn't get Razer again.
I've had that with old MacBook pros
@@prestonlee7107 been asking my self same thing, even if you go into a store try every trackpad on PC laptops they are all like that. Wonder why they cant make as good as Mac
It took me 5 minutes to remember that the 15in’s R23 score was so much higher because 9th gen i9 mobile has 2 extra cores, and I was expecting the blade’s extra cooling to be way better in this perspective
You can count the threads in Cinebench runs, you can even see the 6 physical threads doing better than the 6 hyperthreaded threads!
@@tipoomastermakes me wish Apple Silicon was hyperthreaded fr
@@Epicgamer_Mac It doesn't need to be, Hyperthreading is a bandaid for not filling the execution hardware adequately with each thread, if you can fill it better it's unneeded.
I think this was a very good and balanced comparison. I would personally go with the M1 mac, the razer is really tempting especially as a gamer but I have a desktop PC for playing games. Ever since I got my first mac a couple years ago I think I would struggle to go back to a windows laptop especially after using a MacBook trackpad. Although I have an intel mac and I wonder how different apple silicon would be, especially with app support.
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@idk what to put here in some ways yes in some ways no
@jayin singla m8 read I didn’t say anything about intel macs I meant in like windows machines
@jayin singla i 100% agree with you on that
app support is a non-issue with how amazing rosetta is. also the razr is a gaming desktop as its performance is crappy on battery anyway haha
Great comparison! As someone who has owned a couple Razer laptops now I have to state that battery longevity is always an issue in their products. So you should always factor in replacement battery costs into a used Razer product. That being said the replacement process is generally pretty simple. By no means am I critical of Razer and their batteries, it's just hard to keep that much heat from effecting a component that is very heat sensitive especially if you are pushing the machine and gaming on it frequently.
I think I'd definitely go for the razor, I think its really a case of Mac vs pc (you're not gonna convert anyone, if they're looking for a Mac they'll look for a mac and a pc a pc) and it depends whether you're gaming or not
Id stay away from Razer in general. Their Quality Control is atrocious.
Razor is good pal but, your hands will burn on its palm rest
@@TheGloriousLeader That's true, I used to be in IT helpdesk and among PC laptops, Razors always had some reliability issues and the OEM driver support not as straightforward as business line of laptops from Lenovo, Dell, HP. But the feature set was outstanding and entertaining. Shell build quality also pretty above average.
@@TomBabula I’d agree. Build quality for the chassis and display quality is top tier. But the internal design, and board reliability is just awful. Thermals are entirely to blame. Taking the Apple Form over Function approach with higher end hardware doesn’t bode well
Razer Blade 15 is an appealing choice here. Also a Dell XPS 15 (if there's a good deal with that price.)
Nice review, I like that you with your Apple focused channel make fair comparisons to other brands and that there is no "black or white" for you. I am not an Apple user at all, had a MacBook Pro years ago (2013). Sold it because I liked my Thinkpad better. Nowadays my main laptop is a 2020 Razer Blade 15. Very happy with that laptop. I have to say mine runs 100% on Linux Manjaro with a cpu frequency tool. The fan normally never runs on productivity tasks and the machine doesn't get hot. I have had that machine for nearly 1.5 years and I am really happy until now. Did open it after a year to upgrade RAM and 2 SSD and battery is still ok. Would buy it again.
That gaming machine for under $1000 is honestly tempting af
People argue it heats up a lot
@@theencryptedpartition4633 just as much as the i9 macbook...
If you want a powerful laptop that doesn't heat up u gotta stick to the M1, but those can't game or run windows properly...
@@houssamalucad753 unless you need apps that are exclusive to windows then Mac OS is better imo. If you want to game honestly just get a desktop gaming laptops have horrible battery life once you start gaming anyways. Also sounds like a jet engine lmao.
@@ipodtouch470 you underestimate the dependency on Windows in a lot of industries mate..
Besides a lot of us need to have a portable gaming machine, a desktop isn't always an option, and a gaming laptop is in most cases more practical and cheaper than a seperate desktop and ultrabook.
@@houssamalucad753 need a portable gaming machine 😐😵💫🥱? But yes I agree with you if you rely on software that is windows exclusive you should get native windows laptop probably beats running a virtual machine any day.
Thanks so much! This was a fun video to watch and I like your reasoning at the end.
I have a 13” M1 MacBook Pro and I love it… If I had to replace it at around $1000 I’d probably get an M1 Air… I do like the black aluminum case on the Razor though.
Why would you get an M1 Air over another M1 Pro? I have the M1 Air at the moment and i'm thinking about getting the Pro instead.
@@drbass9677 it’s worth it if you do rendering or exporting projects that take a long time. The fan is noticeable to performance over long intensive tasks like that or gaming
@@drbass9677 The performance is about the same on both, but the air is less expensive in general and so the savings could go into memory or storage. I do like the touch bar and battery life on the 13” M1 MBP, but if it was a budget decision I’d go for the Air
You graded the battery life separately from portability but battery life is an important factor in the portability of the computer. You don't have to worry about carrying a power supply with the M1 MacBook and because it requires the least amount of power to charge and charges over USB-C it's also the most convenient to charge on the go.
I am happy to see that people are finally willing to admit how shit the 2015-2019 MacBooks all were. Those keyboards, my God. :>
you mean 2016-2019
@@charminbaer2323No, there is the 12-inch MacBook which introduced the butterfly keyboard in 2015.
@@justin6581 you’re right, forgot about that ome
@@charminbaer2323 Can’t blame you,, I also have a hard time remembering that it exists.
good unbiased comparison review
You are amazing guy. I really love all your comparisons
great video. Really good comparison and reasoning. Thanks for this content, really nice and well done.
I am a gamer(not a hardcore one), a windows user from the time I learned how to use a computer, last year my gaming PC broke down(around july-aug 2021), so I had to choose between a gaming laptop vs an M1 mbp(yes for portability, and no I cant wait for the new macs as I needed the device right away for work). at first I was skeptical for the M1 coz it would be my first time using macos. I had a gaming laptop(my first laptop, an ROG, best you can buy in 2013), used it for 2 years until the battery gave up. now more than a year using the M1, I must say I have no regrets here. I never thought I can live w/out the amount of games I've been playing before, but here I am, happy and contented with my M1. kudos luke!
Being able to play games on your laptop is no small thing. And the Razer doesn't seem to lag behind the M1 in any significant category other than fan noise. It seems to me the Razer is the better option if one must artificially choose between those three and if gaming is to be a significant use for the laptop.
But there's also the OS to consider. If you're already in the Mac universe, having Messages and other software integrated could make a big difference. For a general-purpose laptop (for one already in the Mac universe), go with the M1.
@Bob Ross After long and careful consideration, Bob, I came to that conclusion. :D Long live Bob Ross. I still watch the re-runs now and again.
Macs are great for indies, Apple Arcade, and the selection of games that do happen to run on the OS. Currently playing Tunic on Steam which runs natively
Macs are also great if you already have a system to play games (like a console or game PC)
Razer laptop also better for development due to intel cpu and nividia gpu
@@iTristendo Good point. A lot of people save all their gaming for dedicated consoles. I guess I do wish the M1's did have a lot more "oomph" when it came to gaming though. But you can't have everything. But as you noted, you can have a lot if you sort of spread your computer requirements around to different systems (consoles, laptops, desktops, and maybe even iPads). Right now with its silence and length of battery life, an M1 laptop is an amazing machine compared to anything on the planet.
Definitely my choice would be M1 MBP, then 15” Intel MBP, and in last place the PC
Thanks as always for the great comparison! It would be so great if you could compare all of the retina 13“ inch macbook pro Models in a future video, like you did for the 15“ inch:)
great video! i was thinking while watching that maybe a better comparison would be the 13 inch macbook pro to the dell xps 13 (especially the brand new one) as they are closer in price and generally designed for the same purpose rather than comapring a gaming machine to a productivity ultrabook
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Luke, when I was looking to replace my late model 2009 White Macbook (with its original spinning hard drive) I debated on getting one of the higher end M1 chips but ultimately I decided to get the M1 iMac (8 core cpu/8 core gpu) and it has performed brilliantly. I use it every day for Open Source software development, 4k video editing using Davinci Resolve, as well as for all the mundane tasks like browsing the web, email, Netflix, RUclips, etc. This iMac has totally redefined my expectations of what to expect from a computer. I really enjoy watching your videos and thank you for all the great content that you share.
If I wanted to play games on my laptop, it's the Razer every time. But I'm so embedded in the Apple ecosystem with my iPhone and iPad that it's easier to go for the M1 MacBook Pro. That's also easier because I have a Switch for portable gaming, and an Xbox for Gaming at home. Gaming on an iPhone, iPad, or Apple TV is not my jam.
A couple things:
The Razor, when new, was like a $2,800 machine. The only reason it's here is because they don't hold their value.
The M1 MBA is selling for $900 brand new right now; Used baseline ones are selling for $685.
Careful with that exact razer blade, my roommate’s blade’s battery expanded and warped the track pad, and razer waited out his warranty despite him contacting them 4 months before it ran out.
Thank you so much for this, Luke.
I owned a 2018 r15 advanced and i took immaculate care of it (never got bloat on battery). I do music production, light vid editing and game. Outside of gaming the razer fell short in fan noise, inconsistent trackpad, short battery life, inability to perform anything without being attatched to a wall, wonky webcam (would not work on random synapse updates and wouldnt be resolved till a new update) and incompatibility with older interfaces. I have a 2021 m1 pro now and outside of gaming the mac smokes it in every aspect you want out of a mobile computer. In reality the novelty of gaming on the go wore off in a year and i was left with a production device that frustrated me more than it helped me create. If you wanna game and have to be on the go buy a razer or a g14/legion 7 if you want to do work get a m1 based mac for most the m1 air is plenty.
"Not an Apples to Apples comparison"? I see what you done there
16:07 just what I thought after owning a gaming laptop (Samsung Notebook Odyssey 2) and wishing I also had a MacBook Air: They’re opposites of each other, and each does it’s tasks well.
The Odyssey does gaming super well, is upgradable, pretty well put together with it’s silver aluminium exterior, but it’s also heavy (2.45kg) and quite bulky with it’s 15.6” screen, and battery is best described as an iPhone 6s. Even in Battery Plus mode.
A little 13” M1 MacBook Air would do wonders with web browsing, opening some PDFs and such, with a longer battery life. Maybe even an Intel generation would do great.
This is called “right tool for the job”.
I feel like an i7 16" MBP would've also been better because of the better thermals and keyboard, plus the bigger screen.
I bought MacBook Pro (2020) 13-inch - Apple M1 8-core and 8-core GPU - 16GB RAM - SSD 512GB for $960 refurbished and it looks mint and functions flawlessly and with 90% original battery 🔋 has great battery life. I love it. The price was suspiciously low on the site I bought it (lower than others with lower specs) but all has been great so there must have been a minor error on the part of the reseller (Back Market). What do you think?
I couldn't do 100% of my tasks on either a Windows or macOS machine. But I also understand I'm the exception, not the rule, so I carry both a MBP and ROG Strix G14 in my bag. That way I can edit video, I can game, I can twitch stream, I can do whatever I need and I'm not limited. It's great to have a Ryzen 9 and RTX 2060 when I need it, but also have the ability to dump video into FCP, record voiceover in Logic, and edit way faster than I can using Davinci Resolve. But I'm also someone who will travel with an M1 Mac Mini and portable monitor when I need to get more work done. So do what works best for you.
Wouldn’t it be easier to dock a MBP to a portable monitor?
I already have the M1 mac for work but I also have a PC and I think that if it were my money I would get the Razor because it has a physically larger screen, can play games and render graphics quickly, even if your mundane task might not be so enjoyable on it with Windows, plus it has an RGB keyboard which is cool. Really it comes down to what you are going to use it for.
cooler than RGB keyboards are white ones!
I see you making car analogies because of your car talk on the podcast last night haha
such a helpful video, really appreciate it!! thank you very much))
That’s why I have an m1 pro 14” and the ‘21 14” blade. I like them both, can’t decide what one is the clear winner. I think the blade wins in ports, it has more of a variety and for someone new to usb-c it makes the transition easier. By the way I need to know where you got that wallpaper for that blade.
Wow so useless having 2 portable 14" notebooks at once
Great video Luke, the only thing I would say, is that if you get used to clicking on the trackpad from a Mac, is understandable that clicking on a windows laptop is worse but if you use the tap, I think the experience is not that bad, then the difference is mostly on the gestures of course but the gap is not that big.
Seems like you never used a Apple Trackpad
Good video! though i had a thought. In the battery life test, it would make more sense to use some sort of brightness detector to set all to the same nits of brightness. And also ... Doesn't the Razer Blade has 4 times the refresh rate...? 240hz? that definitely affects battery life. I'd like to see what the results would be after
1. ensuring same brightness for each device and
2. Same refresh rate.
maybe even set to same resolution for all??
Disclaimer: i don't expect any of them to beat the m1 but the battery test doesn't seem feasible without these adjustments.
i am a big fan of apple products and i am using a 13" MacBook Pro M1 for more than a Year and i am extremely happy with it
For VR and 3D rendering workloads you only have one option here with the exception that things may (or may not) change at WWDC. I think it would be fairer to compare vs brand new prices. For example, I ended up choosing an Aorus 15P KD and spent 1300 USD on Amazon, the same as a new 13” Macbook Pro.
The new Dell XPS 13 Plus mostly beats the MacBooks, put the MacBooks against it instead of this older Razer Blade....
Battery to power ratio and the MBA is the clear and easy winner. Battery and portability is highly desired and then throw in the performance and it's a no brainer.
Once again you show why you are my favorite Fruit Fly (Fruit company aficionado). You do fair comparisons even though some of your points don't matter to me. Noise on a computer is never a point of contention with me as I am not doing recordings of sound (microphone) so noise has no impact on what I do. Energy efficiency, however, is a huge benchmark for me - I want a computer that can do the most per watt consumed. It makes no sense to use a power hungry computer IMHO. Battery life is somewhat of a factor for me though I almost always use my laptops as desktop replacements and rarely take them on the road with me since I don't do much outside of the office these days.
I have a "fleet" of laptops from Dell, HP, Acer, and ASUS and two recent acquisitions of 2012 vintage 13 inch macbook pros that I bought to at least get to see what Fruit OS is like (I won't say that I find it ever enjoyable). The Fruit computers were bought primarily because they could be upgraded and the build quality is fantastic. Spread equally over the Windows systems are Ryzen chips (5's and 7's) and Intel ones (5's and 7's). Every Windows machine is running windows 11 (which I handily find better than Windows 10) except for one HP Envy 13 which can't run 11.
I do mostly computer graphics and some light video creation. My main computer is a 2021 Dell XPS 17 which I love to use; the weakest computer by price is my mini pc from Beelink that I bought to test and to see how bad it would be. It has an i5 Intel processor with dual ssd's (one NVME and one M1 - wide, not thin like gum) . For giggles, I maxed out the ram at 32 gb and used it to do things I would use with my XPS 17. I can tell you that I am surprised as all get out - the Beelink cost $500 after taxes and has been dependable (and makes no noise) - it is certainly not as fast as the XPS, but it has never balked and I've tortured it with in excess of 30 firefox tabs playing youtube content and it never faltered. This computer was so good that I retired a Ryzen 1700x desktop that also had 32 gigs of ram with an NVME drive. Main reason - power consumption - the Beelink uses a third of the power (if that) of the Ryzen first gen desktop and takes up less space than two mac minis.
I find that each OS and chipmaker/computer brand has been dependable and durable. Each has found something it does better than another and that is what I use it for. The Beelink now handles all of my browsing experiences so if it were ever to get infected, it is using the least expensive to replace system for that purpose. Other systems will browse the web with known sites when I am also doing creative work. The Fruit computers are almost exactly the same and basically download video as I need it to external drives I have set up for them. One of these is hooked up to a 27 inch monitor and turned out to make a $300, 27 inch iMac and looks fantastic hooked up to a Dell monitor.
I am not brand loyal on PC's though I do know when each maker has made toads and avoid the era of systems with know issues (like bad graphics or overheating issues). My friends joke me that I take months of research prior to purchasing the next computer, but I do that so I know every nuance of the system and the price - and when the price is really reduced, I pull the plug and upgrade the oldest system. I can't remember when I replaced a system that broke, but I can afford to churn products after three years or so and the give the computer to someone who needs it after putting in a new hard drive and installing OS.
My favorite Mac I have is one I use the least - it is the oldest - a G4 Mirror door tower with matching keyboard and monitor. It is obsolete and was given to me as not working. I fixed it and installed the latest operating system it would support and I use it as my itunes master. I had also had a G3 white laptop that was also given to me not working - it turned out to be a bad dc port/cable and replaced that and computer worked. Wonderful computer though not supported by anything and I ended up selling it to cover the parts plus my time. I am a geek and also started by buying broken windows laptops and fixing them so that I would have computers to use. Now I can afford to buy new and it is nice to have recent and modern things.
I personally love tha automotive spin on it!
That’s an insanely good deal for a laptop with a RTX 2080
15” MacBook Pro 2015 with good specs. I bought that thing new back then. iIt still runs without problems and plenty fast.
Got the m1 air for college and gaming can’t wait for it to arrive 🤩🙌🏾
ah yes macbook air for gaming
@@paul_ko ye it wasnt bad actually its just the 60hz i couldnt stand... so i got a lenovo legion laptop and its great with the 165hz
Hey man. How's it going with the m1 air? Still using it?
@@elvisemokpae1593 nah i got a gaming laptop now
@@Moneysignteve how was your experience with the m1 tho?
I think it depends what your application is. If you are using mainly Apple apps such as Final Cut Pro or Logic definitely go for the M1. But if you need any Windows apps at all, you'll need a second Windows PC as there is no real way to run Windows on M1. If you' mainly need Apple apps but occasionally need Windows apps go for the Intel Macbook since you can run Windows with Boot Camp. If you need mainly Windows apps, 32 bit support, and gaming then go for the Razer. I recently changed to a Windows PC from Mac since I needed more and more Windows apps, so I would pick the Razer.
Where did you buy a Razer Blade for $970? The lowest price I have found was about $1700.
I prefer the ports on the Razer Blade. Had one before switching to the M1 MacBook Air and still miss it. Great for gaming using a wired mouse. Does get a bit loud playing some games, this things can get hot! Thanks for the great video Luke.
you can do the same, just add a dock to the M1..... each to their own, but its everything intergrated vs the simplicity of choosing what you want...
Personally, I'd rather choose what i want.
This comes as a great surprise to me. I think I'd go for the Silicon M1 today... but later in 2023, who knows? You've done a comparison of MacBook Pros of the Intel Era. I'm waiting to see a comparison of the best Macbook Pros of the Silicon Era. Can you handle that after the M2 comes out? LOL!
I'd always go for the air instead of the pro 13"; and for 1000$ I'll probably get the 16GB version
Lot less performance in the air
@@kaden9218 'lot'? xD
I own a M1 Macbook and a Razer Blade 14 (Ryzen 9 and RTX 3070), and so I',m curious when Luke said the Razer Blade 15 had a 1080 screen. I could've sworn it was 4k. Generational difference?
I'm more interested in which Macbook Pro has better performance during editing (timeline, NOT render times) in FCP
I'd go with the M1 MBP. The Razer would be better for that one night per month when I actually want to play a computer game and have time to do so, but there are actually plenty of fun games that work just fine on Macs. And I'd have to put up with the fan noise every damn day. No thanks.
Hey Luke, what about the Mac Mini? Why nobody talk about them? I'm in the market for a second computer and I think that a used Mac Mini would be a good fit. Can you make a video about them? Cheers buddy!!
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Go buy it! It is seriously so underrated. Running a 2014 Mini (in the sense that it was out of the last of the range in 2018) fully specced and upgraded with all the bells and whistles, and it is marvellous. Two mba's i7/M1 on the side, but serious work is done on the Mini. Still hanging on to my blessedly upgradable 2011 Mini, turning it to a backup entertainment thingie to run with the ATV. Prince/perfomance ratio here... it's a good buy.
The elephant in the room of course in regard to overall comparisons would be to see how all three compare running the same OS. How well does the Razer perform on a Hackintosh macOS installation?
Probably not very well as not all parts will work properly in MacOS
The lack of upgrade-ability (plus the huge premium for larger RAM sizes) count against the MAC, all else being near-equal.
Expect the battery life on M1 Macs much better . They beat the Intel PCs by a large margin.
@@rohithmekala2608 That's why I like AMD ryzen laptops as they do much better than intel even when in a gaming laptop
M1 for me. I have never played a computer game since “Asteroids” in the early 1980’s, I’m just not at all interested! Great video. Thanks and best wishes, Colin.
You’d be surprised too on how many games you can still play on an M1 Mac if you ever decided to play
LOL..'Asteroids', yeah, same here...I remember 'Centipede' too. But the only game I play these days on my machines (maxed-out-to the-limit...final version 2020 Intel MacPro laptop & Apple M1 iMac) is 'Mahjong Unlimited'...🔥💥🔥😆.... no windows pee cees for me....
As a lifelong windows user I would be inclined to go for the Razer however, M1 was tempting when it came to me actually buying a machine. Ended up with an XPS 15 which I guess lands in a weird middle ground between the 15 inch macbook and the Razer blade and I really like it. It does surprise me just how much a high end laptop from the last 2 years or so has depreciated so hard in so little time.
@Firebuster so basically every laptop with high end parts l?
Rtx 4000 series come with insane spec bumps. Like almost 100% faster than rtx 2000 series. ,ake sense of this price drop
u can enable performance mode in windows so battery will run at full power still
Not sure if "open box" from Best Buy counts as used, but I got an ASUS ROG Flow X13 2-in-1 with Ryzen 9 5900HS, 3050Ti Mobile, 16GB RAM, 1TB SSD, 120hz FHD for $999 with tax. I've had a 14" M1 Pro MBP, as well as a 2019 16", and a 15" Razer Blade Advanced. Obviously the $2500 M1 Pro MBP was more capable, quieter, and cooler running...but for less than half the price, at $1000, this thing is a beast. Handles my gaming needs perfectly, is super thin and lightweight, and the touchscreen is not only fun to use but a really impressive panel. Just sharing my recommendation for the topic at hand. :)
I use both an M1 mac mini and M1 Macbook for video editing now. I used to use an old 2009 Mac Pro as my all-in-one machine. Now I have a Ryzen 5600g and put my rx580 in that build for a gaming/crypto box. I like the idea of using two machines. Razorblade for gaming and M1 Macbook for work would be perfect! If I had to pick one, maybe the razor blade because I can game and still edit on it. I would take windows off and put POP OS on it of course. Hmmmm maybe I need to buy a razor blade and do that for my channel.
I don’t even know what pop os is. Im always looking for a better option the. Windows lol
Incredibly unbiased review from a Mac enthusiast. Nice.
great video, there is bootcamp on macbookpro as well, i would like to see gaming performance on it
There is one thing you neglected to mention which as an Apple user you may not be aware of so understandable. Intel or AMD based gaming laptops that have Nvidia or AMD full size Gpu's installed will switch graphics to Intel discreet graphics when unplugged, this feature is obviously implemented to save battery power. While I do not own a Razer blade, I do have an MSI gaming laptop with pretty much identical specs and my laptop will not use the 2080 inside while unplugged.
It would be nice to mention 16" Intel MCB Pro 2019. They fixed a LOT wrong with the 15". Its my daily driver, and I would never chose a 15" above m1, but would consider the 16" intel.
i have a question regarding buying a refurbished macbook should i buy a i9 5500m 1tb macbook or a base m1 air i do edit 4k videos and use lightroom, mostly on my laptops and occassionally watch movies
The 2019 revision of the butterfly keyboard is good and reliable IMO
I think a large majority of people who buy Macs do so for MacOS. Yes, there are some stupidly powerful Windows laptops, especially in the gaming space, but if you’re an Apple device/MacOS user the M1 MacBook offers so much more.
Luke, how about a 2018 Macbook Air with 16gb of RAM? Would it be reasonable to buy at $660?
For a apple laptop yes lmao
I suppose you can charge the gaming lap with _apple's 140w charger and cable,_ right?
No. But there are other gaming laptops out there that could. My gaming laptop can do 135w of PD over type C
Razor is more convenient for ports! You have to spend more money for ports with the 2019 MacBook Pro! Of these 2 final laptops, I would go with the 13" MacBook Pro because I don't game, I like the higher resolution screen, good speakers and it is more efficient and quiet! I have a 2013 HP laptop with an i7 that has good performance but it has a dedicated GPU that I never use because I rarely game on it and when it gets hot, the fan is noisey! So, the smaller laptop would win but I prefer a larger screen so If I can afford it, I would really consider a 16" M1 Macbook Pro because of it's size!
I bought the m1 MacBook pro and I’m happy with it. I’d always wanted to try MacOS and I am never coming back to windows again. I think razer is a good option but it all depends on what you want to do with it and your preferred O.S
spot on...personally i thought these were ridiculous machines to compare against each other and the y were not exactly tested using "common use" methods.....tests were hardly a good indicator for how most people are likely to use each of these machines...
@@bazwillrun exactly. I bought the Macbook not for gaming or blender. I bought it for simple stuff and I wanted a fast reliable machine. For average use a MacBook is the best deal. A great display with excellent speakers and a trackpad which works from every angle and point ,to the industrial design. I think it’s really the best deal ever. But for gaming and 3D rendering a PC is still the better option.
Hi Luke
i am having a issue with the display of my MacBook Pro
do you mind if i send you a picture of my screen display to have a look at it and guide me how can i fix it?
thanks a lot in advice
Maeen Ali
5:50 THE SHADE
Hi there Luke Miani I was wondering on your thoughts of running bootcamp and which would be the best macbook to run bootcamp and allowing someone to play games and would it be better to buy a desk top then a macbook air because them two I wouldn't mind for gaming just had a question which computer would it be best to run window because I have a macbook pro m1 500mb but cant afford paying 100 a MONTH for parallels so I was wondering any help please.
Gaming laptops have atrocious battery performance and unless you’re actually using the laptop for gaming which you wouldn’t stray far from an outlet anyway, you’d best be served by a desktop solution more than likely. Objectively the M1 is the only choice.
I think Apple answered the ports question when they brought back HDMI and SD card readers to the MacBook Pro 14 and 15.
14 and 16*
Don't forget them thin gaming laptops run hot like toasters when gaming and sound devices like a plane taking off.
Actually got this MacBook Pro M1 wouldn’t exchange is for the Razor, yes I like gaming, but I’d add a moderate desktop gaming machine, this would provide a better gaming experience and with less annoying fan noise. The Razor is heavier so I know my self, I wouldn’t bring it. That said the Razor is a really attractive machine and I wouldn’t blame anyone for choosing it. Great video Luke, keep up the good work! 👍
Great takes and awesome breakdown man! Ive always wanted a Razer Blade but I already own a powerful gaming desktop so in my mind would be a waste of money. Would be cool for the portability tho.
I'd choose the M1 Mac, it's just a very balanced machine.
I just upgraded from a razer blade pro 17 with a 2070 rtx in it to the 16 inch m2 max macbook.
The razer hasnt been great for me.
The drivers that control when the gpu is used don't seem to work as it always tries to use the gpu on battery and destroys the battery life. I'd be lucky to get 2-3 hours on battery and the performance is horrendous when on battery, it feels like a stuttery mess. Its basically a portable desktop. This is less of an issue on the 15, because on the 17 they cut the battery in half to put an extra fan in to help control the heat issues. A friend of mines with the 15 says he can get a few hours more than I can on his 15 inch version with a similar spec. His one seems to have different options in his drivers though, so that may also have something to do with it.
Its a nice design to look at but it's super heavy and almost double the weight of my macbook. It also gets super hot even just doing mundane stuff and the fans ramp up.
The trackpad is also terrible, which has been made even worse by the fact that it has developed an issue where it thinks its being clicked, so when you try to drag the cursor around it starts doing swiping gestures. I tried to look at getting a replacement trackpad... I have tried contacting razer but they have been beyond useless on this front and I have struggled to find a used part on ebay as the 17 inch is a lot less common than the 15.
The screen may be fast at 240hz, but the screen on the macbook absolutely blows it out the water in terms of quality. The same can be said for the speakers, they are below average at best. The speakers on my mac totally blew me away!
I used to be an apple hater and I still don't really like their ethics as a company... however, I love my new mac. It's taking a bit of time to adjust to OSX, but it's better for my uses as a software engineer in almost every single way. I will never again buy a razer laptop. I swore off razer years ago when I tried their keyboards and mice which kept breaking and developing double clicking issues, but decided to give them another shot as it had been a while and the blade looks like a good laptop on paper... well I think it will be another long whlie before I try anything from them again.
I maximised my money this way: I found a Macbook Pro 16" 2019 base model: 2,3 GHz, 16 GB RAM, 1 TB storage, 5500M GPU, as well as an iPhone 11 Pro Max 128 GB for 723 USD equivalent! So happy!
The GPU on the blade has different specs than a desktop, with the lower power limit and whatnot. Also, in your battery comparison, you’re using continuously changing RGB vs static on the MacBooks
I agree. M1 ( which is sitting next to me). I do general tasks, but I will test it tomorrow on steam to play a tabletop simulator with skype open.
The fact of the matter is. You can't compare a gaming laptop to a Mac. If you like windows get a windows laptop. If you like MacOS get a MacBook. If you like Linux well get whatever I guess.
I think that if you changed the battery performance settings on the Razer Blade, you'd be able to reach the same or similar score what it would get when plugged in.
I’ve bought the 15” model.
Yes it can get a little hot, still happy with my decision.
I was thinking of buying a 2016 to 2019 15" MacBook Pro, but managed to get a great deal on an M1 13" with 16GB Ram and 512 GB SSD, for a similar price, so there's more life in the Apple Silicon eco-system, and I plunged. Hopefully I won't regret it.
why not both? I have a gaming laptop and mbp m1 13", I don't have to leave gaming behind and I still can work properly because m1 is small and easy to carry around. Can fit both in a single backpack. Lucky to find a razer blade for that price!
PS: Points of view could be different, something for general purpose for me would be work and gaming. Since I can do both on a windows laptop but cant game on m1 :(
Apple really needs to improve graphical capabilities on their laptops. If i paid $1000,00 bucks on a computer, i want to do everything on it, even playing my favourite games
But game companies also need to make games on mac
It’s capable of running games, it’s just that not a lot of game developers make their games for MacOS as well as design games to run on ARM chips
Razor wins hands down for being able to game and productivity. Not knocking m1 but most people wanna be able to have some gaming options. If you’re not gaming sure go with m1. Razor just covers all the bases and looks really good in the process. Great video!!
I'd get the Razer
dont care
@@SpinnerSpite well clearly you do since you commented dum dum
Same
Yeah, It's just so cool
I have a razer blade 14 from 2017 thats falling apart
Let's NOT say I've got a thousand dollars. I DO NOT HAVE a thousand dollars.
When i see these videos i always think where the hell do you find such a good prices for those machines, but then i remember i live in Europe lol
"apples to apples" lolol
should have gotten the razer book. it’s razer’s direct competitor to apple macbooks with a focus on work and less on play like the razer blades are.
Sold my Alienware with a 2060 to get my M1 Air which I traded for a 16" M1 Pro last fall... my oldest is looking to sell his Alienware with a 2080 to get a 14" M1 Pro, primarily for batter life. Two of my other boys are pondering the same thing... all switching to Mac for laptops. Note they all have gaming PCs. What we have found is that while the idea of a gaming laptop is great, none of us ever really use them for gaming. Better to have the Mac which you can play some games on in a pinch for a laptop with the better battery life and keyboard. Although the keyboard on the more recent Alienware laptops is actually pretty close out of all I have tested.
That’s how it begins.