Learning to shoot a bow without a sight is an amazing experience. You can shoot 10mt, 20mt, 30mt, 150mt or anything in between without all that friggin around with the sight.
You should see Amee shoot from horseback. Hopefully Amee can open both days of the Bathurst Archery Festival next year by doing another demonstration of horseback archery.
I am a beginner really. I have been shooting just over a year, and most of that time with a flat is. I have just finished making my first longbow....me, I like a stick and a bit of string.... Now the recurve shooters at my club are consistently more accurate, but I will get three arrows into the target in the time it takes them to shoot one... admitted theirs will be good and red, and I will stray into the bus and black! It's all good!
I started to shoot unfletch shaft out of annoyance… due to non optimised tuning, I damaged all my fletching over time. I ripped off everything & started from there 😂
Agreed - it would be pretentious to claim that is 100% of his shots (he missed the target completely on first attempt). The traditional archers on the line were making a humourous observation that I was doing "torba at 50 metres", referring to their practice of shooting at 3 metres to get their arrows touching each other. The expectations between the styles are much different. With their sights dialed in, an Olympic shooter expects this grouping as a base line of skill. A traditional shooter sees this as the peak of their skill. For Ahmed to casually hit centre of the target with a bare shaft reflects an excellent (though not flawless) shot execution. His prominence over the other archers, who were shooting fletched arrows and only landing about 40% on target, was undisputable and a sign of the progress that one can make.
@@TheAegisClaw it's not too doubtful if we've just observed 50% success rate on two arrows! Have to see more before we make any judgement. The special thing about it is that a traditional archer learns many ways to prevent the archers paradox from occuring, and hence why they can accurate shoot an arrow with no fletchings because it fishtails much less with correct technique
You imply that shooting a recurve is easy. It still takes a lot of practice and skill to shoot small groups at longer distances. Hitting the target is easy for both bow types and the freestyle recurve is designed to make the shot more repeatable and so more likely to shoot better groups with the right technique.
Meine Pfeile (olympischer Recurvebogen) waren so getunt, dass ich aus 70 Metern auch den unbefiederten Pfeil in die Gruppe (oder nahe dran) schießen konnte.
@@olivialambert4124 wouldn't do you any good. you have to learn your own ideal natural draw stroke and then practice it carefully until it is repeatable. this is true for most athletic activities.
@@gizmonomono it was a long comment please check it out. David (nu sensei) is an English teacher who is very sensitive this type of mistakes. If I use long bow, it doesn't make me a "British archer"
I didnt even think you could really shoot an unfletched arrow? that it would just wobble or flip or something except at point blank ranges? If you can hit a target fine at 50m without, does that mean fletching doesnt make a huge difference except at longer ranges?
Fletching stabilises the arrow. Without fletches, the shaft will fly based on how it was launched. Any imperfection is shown in the bare shaft - hence "the arrow does not lie". Modern archers use bare shafts to diagnose tuning issues. The two schools of archery approach this differently. Modern archery adapts the tool (through changing spine, point weight, alignment, etc.). Traditional archery adapts technique (khatra, release, etc.). Excellent technique and/or a well tuned bow will group unfletched shafts at long distance. There is simply no forgiveness and no margin for error.
@@NUSensei This is the beauty of archery as a discipline and sport, no matter the type of archery we practice, we are all chasing that perfect shot. This video should remind us that our ancestors had to hunt to eat and to defend themselves and despite their comparatively more rudimentary methods, they were quite capable and skillfull. Thank you for your videos and insights.
@@silvermediastudio lol what are you talking about?? 1st- traditional bows do NOT use unfletched arrows. 2nd a Javelin is NOT a big arrow- it is balanced totally different.
@@elevown so ottoman guy isn't using a traditional bow? Javelin is a long thin thing that isn't fin stabilized. Hence, it isn't beyond the imagination that long thin things don't need fins to be stabilized. In response to your original comment that you don't think unfletched arrows were shootable or would "flip." Interesting that you were clueless in your original post and now you're some expert arguing a point 😂😉
Well, well... Surprising show of performance with a bow that's not supposed to be as precise as an olympic one 😁 Goes to show how practice makes perfect, no matter the equipment, wouldn't you agree? 😁 Still though, it makes a good point on what is, and isn't possible historically. Now imagine an archer that trained their entire life, and how accurate and fast they Could be. It opens up a whole new area of possibilities, doesn't it? And by the way, awesome video. This and the previous one. 😉
Not really, not unless he can do it again and again with a tight group. Remember, modern Olympic archery did not spring up fully formed. The bows have developed over a little more than a hundred years. As Nu has said, in terms of score and accuracy, compounds at the top, then Olympic bows, then barebow and then traditional, archers being equal.
@@TheAegisClaw I know, man, just poking some fun 😊 But like I said, practice is what matters most. Like Nu said, he's outshot compounds, and has been outshot by traditional archers.
@@TheAegisClaw No shit modern equipments are better than the old ones. But it really makes you wonder that in the old times, they used to field thousands, or even tens of thousands of guys at his level or even higher and many will perish in a single battle. Makes you kinda sad really.
Have recently switched to Eastern archery and there's no comparison. What these guys are achieving is unbelievable
Your Ottoman buddy just walks up and in a second makes the target. Wow, impressive
The ottomans would be prroud
And thats why traditonal is underrated by all these modern bows and hour aiming
I love that quiver the Ottoman archer was using.
Learning to shoot a bow without a sight is an amazing experience. You can shoot 10mt, 20mt, 30mt, 150mt or anything in between without all that friggin around with the sight.
Yep, it's just like learning to throw something, you don't need any sight to be accurate, you just need to practice.
Nice video, goes to show exprience, practice and familiarity with your bow is what gets results!
love it!
thanks for uploading!
You should see Amee shoot from horseback. Hopefully Amee can open both days of the Bathurst Archery Festival next year by doing another demonstration of horseback archery.
looks so smooth
Imagine getting MOGGED by a guy in the first try without fletchings.
Nice! More please!
I am a beginner really. I have been shooting just over a year, and most of that time with a flat is. I have just finished making my first longbow....me, I like a stick and a bit of string.... Now the recurve shooters at my club are consistently more accurate, but I will get three arrows into the target in the time it takes them to shoot one... admitted theirs will be good and red, and I will stray into the bus and black!
It's all good!
Look at that beer belly)
Степанюк Максим Whew, I wasn’t the only one that noticed XD
the camera always adds 10 pounds
You should see mine. Lol
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@@thegentilehunter How many cameras were on him??
That guy behind you - wearing a policeman's cap on backwards?!
Otto Walkes - my Hero
Was hat Otto mit diesem Video zu tun? Wegen der Ottomanen?
@@tornoutlaw nö wegen den otifanten
what is the soundtrack you used for the background?
Nice Hat Brother
I started to shoot unfletch shaft out of annoyance… due to non optimised tuning, I damaged all my fletching over time. I ripped off everything & started from there 😂
nice
You where can I get the equipment my turkish guy has?
I've never seen a Vietnamese guy with a beer gut until today
Welcome to Australia
Amazing shooting. Bogensport Linz AG. You come from Germany?
Doc-Slider Linz is not in Germany, Linz is in Austria.
@@christinebussimaus1548 Stimmt. Hatte das mit Linz am Rhein verwechselt.
Why ?.and on the other channel we have no wheel car racing!.
The test would be to see if he can shoot repeatably like that.
Exactly. And it's doubtful...
Agreed - it would be pretentious to claim that is 100% of his shots (he missed the target completely on first attempt). The traditional archers on the line were making a humourous observation that I was doing "torba at 50 metres", referring to their practice of shooting at 3 metres to get their arrows touching each other. The expectations between the styles are much different. With their sights dialed in, an Olympic shooter expects this grouping as a base line of skill. A traditional shooter sees this as the peak of their skill. For Ahmed to casually hit centre of the target with a bare shaft reflects an excellent (though not flawless) shot execution. His prominence over the other archers, who were shooting fletched arrows and only landing about 40% on target, was undisputable and a sign of the progress that one can make.
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@@TheAegisClaw it's not too doubtful if we've just observed 50% success rate on two arrows! Have to see more before we make any judgement.
The special thing about it is that a traditional archer learns many ways to prevent the archers paradox from occuring, and hence why they can accurate shoot an arrow with no fletchings because it fishtails much less with correct technique
Think I’m first for the first time ever
Liking the content man
How year training Torba😅
why?!
Traditional archery is the best
You imply that shooting a recurve is easy. It still takes a lot of practice and skill to shoot small groups at longer distances. Hitting the target is easy for both bow types and the freestyle recurve is designed to make the shot more repeatable and so more likely to shoot better groups with the right technique.
Meine Pfeile (olympischer Recurvebogen) waren so getunt, dass ich aus 70 Metern auch den unbefiederten Pfeil in die Gruppe (oder nahe dran) schießen konnte.
Been blank-bossing at Greggs?
See what he can do instinctive without the sights.
A very still day ! I noticed no tree branches swaying
not instinctive he is still aiming
This video got a likes only for the shots from the traditional archers. Great shooting.
I dislike those bows with all that crap on them. It ruins a nice recurve bow.
Traditional be like : make it simple, you missed, then its your fault not your bow
What the hell? How?! I didn't even think that was possible at short range let alone just a casual point and shoot at 50m. Is he a wizard?
A lot of practice.
It isn't that hard
@@silvermediastudio I'd love to see a demonstration video of you firing like that. Or even a tutorial, that would be even better.
@@olivialambert4124 wouldn't do you any good. you have to learn your own ideal natural draw stroke and then practice it carefully until it is repeatable. this is true for most athletic activities.
@@silvermediastudio You seem to have missed the point. That being you almost certainly aren't capable of doing what you claim "isn't that hard".
That belly Sensei, Osh.! 😀
Ottoman archer?
Turkish archery. Watch the previous video. It explains it beautifully.
@@gizmonomono ottoman archer and Turkish archery totally different things. He didn't explain beautifully. Read my comment on that video.
@@Excalibure666 Feel free to enlighten me here. I would appreciate it
@@gizmonomono it was a long comment please check it out. David (nu sensei) is an English teacher who is very sensitive this type of mistakes. If I use long bow, it doesn't make me a "British archer"
@@Excalibure666 I see what you mean. A bit nitpicky, though 😁
I didnt even think you could really shoot an unfletched arrow? that it would just wobble or flip or something except at point blank ranges? If you can hit a target fine at 50m without, does that mean fletching doesnt make a huge difference except at longer ranges?
Fletching stabilises the arrow. Without fletches, the shaft will fly based on how it was launched. Any imperfection is shown in the bare shaft - hence "the arrow does not lie". Modern archers use bare shafts to diagnose tuning issues. The two schools of archery approach this differently. Modern archery adapts the tool (through changing spine, point weight, alignment, etc.). Traditional archery adapts technique (khatra, release, etc.). Excellent technique and/or a well tuned bow will group unfletched shafts at long distance. There is simply no forgiveness and no margin for error.
@@NUSensei This is the beauty of archery as a discipline and sport, no matter the type of archery we practice, we are all chasing that perfect shot. This video should remind us that our ancestors had to hunt to eat and to defend themselves and despite their comparatively more rudimentary methods, they were quite capable and skillfull. Thank you for your videos and insights.
I guess you aren't familiar with a javelin
And guess what, people still do hunt with traditional bows. 🙄
@@silvermediastudio lol what are you talking about?? 1st- traditional bows do NOT use unfletched arrows. 2nd a Javelin is NOT a big arrow- it is balanced totally different.
@@elevown so ottoman guy isn't using a traditional bow?
Javelin is a long thin thing that isn't fin stabilized. Hence, it isn't beyond the imagination that long thin things don't need fins to be stabilized. In response to your original comment that you don't think unfletched arrows were shootable or would "flip."
Interesting that you were clueless in your original post and now you're some expert arguing a point 😂😉
Correct title should be "Ottoman Archer OUT-PRACTICES Modern Archer"
Well, well... Surprising show of performance with a bow that's not supposed to be as precise as an olympic one 😁
Goes to show how practice makes perfect, no matter the equipment, wouldn't you agree? 😁
Still though, it makes a good point on what is, and isn't possible historically. Now imagine an archer that trained their entire life, and how accurate and fast they Could be. It opens up a whole new area of possibilities, doesn't it?
And by the way, awesome video. This and the previous one. 😉
Not really, not unless he can do it again and again with a tight group. Remember, modern Olympic archery did not spring up fully formed. The bows have developed over a little more than a hundred years.
As Nu has said, in terms of score and accuracy, compounds at the top, then Olympic bows, then barebow and then traditional, archers being equal.
@@TheAegisClaw I know, man, just poking some fun 😊 But like I said, practice is what matters most. Like Nu said, he's outshot compounds, and has been outshot by traditional archers.
@@TheAegisClaw No shit modern equipments are better than the old ones. But it really makes you wonder that in the old times, they used to field thousands, or even tens of thousands of guys at his level or even higher and many will perish in a single battle. Makes you kinda sad really.
I'd have thrown the arrow backwards, with my eyes crossed.
Iyi, interesan, fakat eski osmanli zamanda, 400 m kolayidi
What the traditional guy did is also easier to learn. This is a stone age tool so humans have strong instincts regarding the use of bow and arrows.
I suspect you've never shot a horsebow?
Easier? Lmao
according to yoga or mystic teachings achieving a bull's eye has to do with the scooter's "will power" most of all not technique
Video senza senso 👎