I clicked thinking the building burned with a lot of adults and some children inside because of the thumbnail but I am now surprised and horrified that almost 200 children were crushed to death by other children instead.
Me too, I was expecting a fire from one of the special effects of the act but did not expect at all it was children eager to get free stuff that was going to be the disaster.
Honestly, I think this video should be mandatory viewing for children around the age of 10, right about when they're asking why they have to stand in those lines but after they're old enough to handle this tale.
One of the saddest stories I heard from this event was of a woman who went with her friend as moral support to collect her child's body, safe in the knowledge that she hadn't sent her own son, because she couldn't afford it. Only to find her own son lying next to the womans son, because the boy's friend paid for him to get in!!!
I've worked in security which included crowd management, there are a lot of regulations in the UK intended to prevent these things from happening again at events (even down to width of exit routes, incline of the ground and colours of signage etc) but you'd be surprised how serious the risk still is, mostly because people don't understand how their own actions lead to these crushes. Although this tragic story is about kids and it's kind of suggested that they didn't know better, 90% of adults don't know better either. This is why crushes still happen at music venues and festivals. People just have no idea that pushing forward at the back of a crowd causes a magnified wave of pressure at the front, and if there are people there who can't get out, it's incredibly dangerous.
The thing I really like about these videos is the bit at the end: "as a result, a thing was invented, a law passed, systems changed, to ensure that this never happens again." The history of regulation is written in blood, and it's so important to remember why we have these things in place.
I was just thinking this after it saddened me deeply that the "Mansfield Bar" which is the steel bar that hangs from the back of the cargo area of a semi-truck was also created/invented for safety in the states. It was named after movie star Jayne Mansfield was killed along with 2 other adults in a car crash nearly scalping her head in the tragic accident as it went underneath the truck. Now a days all semis have a this safety measures in case of an accident, the vehicle does not go under. Sad beginnings for human innovations. The Good news was her 3 children in the back seat survived with minor injuries and one of them is Actress Mariska Hargitay, from Law & Order fame.
@Brandon Piperjack As one old lady used to say, "where's the beef?" Just 40-50 years ago people were worried sick about a new ice age, as the winters of '77-'78 seemed to lean in that direction. One medium-large volcano puts more emissions in the air than all the hydrocarbons burned by humans in 500 years. But I do love it when someone driving an SUV has a sticker warning about it.
That is exactly how the Heimlich procedure was invented. Henry Heimlich became a doctor and saved many, many lives due to a personal tragedy. He also invented the jest tube to relieve pressure on the lungs after a chest wound. Some times tragedy is inspiring.
@Melanie Daria If you have a family of 13+ like my Irish great great grandma it probably becomes a lot harder to do that (unless you train them to watch each other)
That makes me wonder if this tightened the restrictions on child to adult numbers in field trip events. Sure it’s common sense, but that doesn’t stop people from being irresponsible to save money on staff
My 1st job was in a cinema, in a mall. Our manager was an ex fireman. He made us check stairwells every other day. Once the evacuation alarm went off, because someone burnt toast in a staff room in a shop below us. We had to evacuate hundreds of people, he always told us 1 person goes down the stairwell & checks it’s safe to send everyone down, one stays up top to direct people. Shout Green to go ahead, Red to use the next nearest exit. We never had to shout red. The point is, I never fully understood why he was so particular about checking stairwells & fire doors. If a push bar even so much as sounded off it was replaced within a day, but god am I glad he was like this. Now I understand what he feared so much. Don’t ever think that because we live in a more advanced world things like this video might never happen. If you have to work in a place, you’re required do fire training, do it & take it in! like your life depends on it. Cause you never know that might just be the case, not just your own life but many, many others.
*thank you* - that's great advice (re the person ahead - behind..) - I've always volunteered to be a fire warden at various work places since my first 'proper' job in 1985 - and have always taken it seriously (& work has always paid - sent us off for first aid training as well - a 2 day course, or a one day 'refresher' course annually)
You are right, a couple of years ago a discotheque here in the netherlands burned down because someone set of fireworks inside. And then the exit doors were bolted up to prevent illegal entrance from outside. Quite some people died and it sounds a lot like some of these horror stories. Somebody thought of money first and then people died.
"because we live in a more advanced world" - with mentalities retarded, partly because of the false assumption that regulations and technology can and will protect people from anything and everything, so they don't need to think for themselves or have any mechanical sense.
@@LaurieWilliams-lk8fc well said - completely agree however - we do also need regulations and technology as well as basic common sense and human initiative (mid argument on another video - control tower vs small plane pilot who is not following very clear instructions in very busy airport - regulations - put in place to keep EVERYONE safe (me & pilots going - control guy in right = insisting on simple 'yes I have that info AND my callsign') painful listening to small plane pilot repeatedly does one OR the both - not both - starts to READ OUT the info - *TWICE* ) others = going oh that guy in the control tower is being a (insert your derogatory remark here) & back to me & pilots - no he's not - he is doing his JOB - rules & regulations - conversations recorded - investigation if all goes - wrong sorry = all common theme - basic health & safety = regulations and other measures are put in place for a REASON - learn from past mistakes so future tragedy averted
I found a locked fire exit in a theatre. I didn't mention it to management. I just kicked the door open breaking the door frame where the lock bolt was. Another time, I found an enclosed car park in Wisbech with the metal fire exit gates chained and locked shut. A short 'emergency' call to the fire service and within 10 minutes they'd arrived with their bolt cutters. Not actually used as they got management to remove the chains.
As an engineering student i really feel that a minimum of 5 hours of your content should be watched by anyone graduating with a engineering degree, people need to understand the effect that a small amount of safe design can save hundreds if not thousands of lives.
Oh god, yes. I’ve watched quite a few of these, a lot of them being about fires. It has made me understand for example what a monumental deference just which way a door opens can make in these types of situations.
@@rarewind Some years ago one hot summer's day, playing badminton in the local sports hall, it was decided the fire doors would be opened to increase ventilation. A group of 6 people gathered around the unopened doors NOT OPENING the doors ! "PUSH BAR TO OPEN" it has on the doors and 6 of them failed to open those doors.
Its an interesting video, nothing more. I can read the same info on wikipedia and its sources in less time, more accuracy, and more information. I think you are both overestimating the value of this presentation form and grossly underestimating most engineers.
@@victorvonsteuben1728 Might be overestimating if you only take into account the value of this single video. Of cours anyone can get just as much information from Wikipedia. First of all will they ? Secondly these videos put a lot of emphasis on the impact of the decisions made by individuals that could have easily prevented disaster. I also don't think i would say that many Wikipedia articles have an emotional impact on people. I was just trying to give praise to a content creator that I enjoy.
straight jacket, the story said he GREW UP to invent the push bar after surviving the disaster as a child. He grew up and studied engineering at university.
@Greg Moonen The victorian man didnt invent the crash bar specifically, but did invent a very early version of it, which has been changed and adapted since to become easier to use, etc. And really? As in the writer Kurt Vonnegut? Like his dad or something?
Someone stole my great aunt's headstone a few years ago. My great aunt died a week after her third birthday from cystic fibrosis and my grandmother was so poor at the time that the only reason she had a headstone at all was because the community pitched in and donated it. People have no respect for the dead anymore.
Not so. The Fays - Alexander and his sister Annie (not his wife as in the intro) had orchestrated the event to make a tidy profit. It was one of the Fay's associates that bolted the door that caused 'the crush' although the individual was never actually accused albeit a number of surviving children giving evidence at the Bishopwearmouth inquest (there were two inquests, the second being at Monkwearmouth) identified the very individual who kicked the drop bolt into its keep as a tall man with black curly hair (which fits the description of the individual who is my prime suspect). I am currently doing a lot of research into this disaster as I suspect there were possibly 6 more children than the acknowledged 183 who died as a result of this but died later 'off-site'. This disaster led an Architect, living in Sunderland at the time - one Robert Alexander Briggs, to invent the panic bolt (aka push bar to open) which he applied for the patent in 1891 and it being granted in 1892. The second inquest held in the parish of Monkwearmouth disagreed with the first inquest's findings. One of the Coroner's recommendations coming from the Monkwearmouth inquest was that all exit doors in public buildings be outaward opening and this was thus enshrined in UK legislation.
@@indigoandriko4216: Alexander Fay actually lied at the inquest as if the transcript of the Bishopwearmouth Inquest is read he changes his story. It was actually one of his associates who bolted the door (this individual was described by surviving children at one of the inquests although the individual was never actually accused).
Agreed. I tried Black Friday shopping one time. The way people were acting over some of the stupidest crap raised my anxiety so much I was ready to kill the next person that shoved me. I split and never did it again.
@@alukuhito In the US, Black Friday refers to the day after Thanksgiving (which is celebrated on the fourth Thursday of November). Being the day after Thanksgiving, it is widely seen as the peak of the Christmas shopping season, and for many retailers, it's considered one of the most important sales days of the year. Many stores have Black Friday sales which involve offering appreciable discounts on all sorts of merchandise. This has the effect of luring in larger-than-normal numbers of customers, many of whom behave irrationally as a result of wanting to get the best deals on their Christmas shopping. There are many, *many* instances of Black Friday resulting in panics, crushes, and violent confrontations between shoppers; as someone who has actually worked an overnight Black Friday shift at my local mall, I can tell you, it's really nothing short of madness. People will actually push and shove and fight each other over the opportunity to buy new shoes or handbags or TV sets at reduced prices. I will *NEVER* work a Black Friday shift again if I can help it-- once was traumatic enough.
likewise, but one of the best jobs i had was part time security guard for the Melbourne Concert Hall (Victoria Australia, now called Hamer Hall), i'd go in from 10pm to 2 am and do the lock up, so crowds were leaving as i started shift. . i was very conscious of emergency exits, and fire rated doors propped open (against regs etc).
At a Christian concert a friend dragged me a long to as a 14 year old bringing me to the front of the tent. The metal bar in front of the speakers. The crowds packed in and pushed me toward the rail. A fat middle aged man was squashed me right into the rail. It was crushing my ribs and squashing oxygen out of my lungs. I couldn't breath in or out. I tried to lean back to signal to the man behind me but even tapping him he grumped at me calling me rude and how he won't move for me. Crowds continued to pile in and he pushed me further into the rail. I was feeling myself almost go unconscious. My friend finally came to my side after she went somewhere and tried to talk to me. She could see me in distress and saw the rail and told the man behind me to step back. To get the air in my lungs again, after I had space to breath and move away from the rail and after apology from behind me, was difficult. But luckily I could breath again though shallow and tight. My friend promised if I go with her again next time we won't stand where the rails are. But it freaked me out so badly I chose to never visit one like it again. I did go to decent concerts though there was seating and no risk of a crowd taking up your personal space. I really can not stand buses for this reason either they also pack buses up and they stand too close beside you and squash you against the person at the window seat. Difficult also getting out and off. You say excuse me as loud as you can in the crowds loud voices they never hear you. Bus drivers should never let on passengers if it means standing. For fire safety reasons at least there was only ever one exist on the bus and that was at the front. I sit at the front for claustrophobic and transport sickness reasons
@@healingandgrowth-infp4677 I know some people who do alot of traveling, mostly around the U.S. one thing they all have in common is a hatred or fear of public transportation. One friend from highschool went to Las Angles and came back vowing to never take public transportation outside of Canada lol
Not claustrophobic myself, but I detest crowds too. If I spend an entire day amidst one, even if I don't exert myself much, I end it worn out anyway. I feel as if crowds slowly drain out my energy.
Right you just think your sending them off for a fun time and because of them wanting candy and toys to they pay with their lives 😢🥺😭😢😥😭 And like in the Iroquois theater fire why was this door to the upper area like that its bull
@@terranovarain6570 Or the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory fire. I saw a documentary on PBS about that one. Bodies burnt beyond recognition laid out on the sidewalk, and all for greedy corporate fat cats LOCKING THE EMPLOYEES inside the building.
Usually when disaster strikes, you check the bodies first and then hospitals. Now days we have lists, and you only get to look at the unidentified bodies if your person isn't on the identified list. Which is in a way usually worse. Because those bodies are usually really difficult to identify visually.
@@fanaticat1 I imagine seeing all but your last kid in that line up and just hoping more than anything you at least have that one left. Just _one_ glimmer of hope, a kind of peculiar silver lining to your personal hell, only to find their face... I'd absolutely be in a similar state of ruin.
As a follow-spot operator at the back of the upper level, at panto time when they threw sweets for the kids downstairs from the stage, we had sweets for the upstairs kids.
I agree. When do you ever see a rich corporation or single doner that a building is named after contribute to a disaster in that building that they had exactly nothing to do with?! Would even the queen do that today, I wonder, for a tragedy of similar scope?
@William Martibez I guess that's a fair opinion. I feel like we so seldom see such decency from the rich and powerful that it feels really heartening. But maybe the state of the current political climate has me setting the bar for altruism too low.
Man, I feel so bad for the performers. Idk if I could continue living with thinking that my actions of throwing out toys and candy caused kids to crush each other...
I’m guessing that the Fays didn’t have any children. If they were parents, they might have recognized that the children upstairs would be jealous and want candy too. They should have been given the sweets as they exited the hall.
I mean, if they had done this show before, it might have only been in small town halls with standing room only, no balconies. They wouldn’t have realised the need to change the way they distributed the prizes. It is very tragic that they didn’t though.
@@ItsJustLisa That's a good idea. They should have been given the prizes / sweets at the end. In my opinion they venue invited too many children (and not enough adults) and hired too few adult caretakers, and the performers didn't really think it through with such a large venue. Very sad, but this kind of thing unfortunately happens even among adults as well. Panic is a terrible thing.
"Every child, alive or dead". That phrase sent chills through my body. As soon as I heard that the performers began throwing toys and prizes to the crowd I knew how this was going to go, but oh my goodness.
I can't imagine the horror and despair felt that day. Either taking a carriage or walking down to collect your child from what was supposed to be a joyous and fantastical show only to hear shouts and cries that children have died. Before today I never knew of this tragedy,thankyou for taking the time to educate your viewers.
@@chokichocat3083 , I think educate is accurate...sometimes people don't think of consequences of their actions. In this case it was young children with little adult supervision so is sadly understandable. Adults are also sometimes vulnerable to the very same thing.
@@taylorrhouser Arguably, the Triangle fire was worse because exit doors were locked in order to stop employee theft/employees leaving the building (also I assume to keep employees from leaving early and stealing wages) and a majority of the elevators were out of service iirc. Firefighter ladders could not reach the floor that the fire was on, and the fire escape collapsed. Many workers chose to jump instead of burn to death. Victoria Hall disaster while the death toll was higher, was a terrible accident that caused the deaths of hundreds of children via the bolted door that in normal circumstances shouldn't have caused death, while Triangle was an accident exacerbated by negligence and unsafe workplace conditions. This isn't to make light of the children who died in the theater as that too shouldn't have happened, but that their deaths weren't due to intentional actions or neglect of lifesaving measures. Both accidents are terrible, but Triangle Shirtwaist caused a lot of workplace safety reform.
Yes, ultimately, it also led towards the concept of fire codes and building capacity, crowds in general are dangerous, so it looks like people never learn because the same kinds of tragedies are inevitably approaching in our crumbly infrastructure of 2020
Crowd crush and fires are two of my biggest fears of a way to die. That one club where people got jammed into the doors as a fire burned behind them is terrifying. Always find the exits. Always stay close to them.
After the Station nightclub fire happened in Rhode Island back in 2003 it became the law for all buildings across the country to have sprinklers. Also, all exits cannot be blocked, must clearly be labeled and have lights, and there must be 2 or more exits. A lot changed after this fire. Like they say "safety regulations are written in blood" We're a lot safer in buildings now because of that tragic incident
@@shadowsinmymind9 I happen to live in Rhode Island even tho I wasn’t around when the station fire happened(wasn’t around until 2006) it feels odd knowing I live in the same area where one of the worst nightclub fires took place
@@kingjester564 I visited the spot last year. They have stones with pictures of all the victims. So many young people died. Its a beautiful memorial. Here in Massachusetts and Rhode island we all know people who were going to go to the club that night but changed their mind.
The renderings look like something out of a horror book. This is so heartbreaking, all because parents were too busy (rightfully so, many had to work and a penny was a lot) to accompany these children to an exciting life event. Honestly props to Queen Victoria for paying for funerals. Also, Im glad the Fays weren’t blamed for what happened, they had no way of knowing something like this would happen.
It was a different time. Children went unaccompanied to most places. It's always a mistake to judge the past from the point of view of the present. After all, you know what you know BECAUSE of what happened. Hindsight is always 20/20.
@@CrazyMazapan I literally say "rightfully so" in my comment. I'm not judging the parents in any way. A penny was a lot back then, I can't imagine what some of those families had to sacrifice or how much extra work they did so their child could have a fun day, only for it to turn into a tragedy.
Queen Victoria didn't pay for the funerals. A fund was set up and Queen Victoria donated 50 pounds (about 75 USD at the time). It was one of the Fay's associates who bolted the door.
But if you lived then you would understand it. Hell I can't believe how I grew up in just the 80s compared to today, now I think of all the times I couldve been killed or kidnapped lol
I wish kids still had that freedom today (minus the potential for horrible accidents). It's not normal they way we have to keep our kids underfoot at all times. I want to live in a world where you can let them go to a magic show with their friends.
Mama used to take my sister (5 years older than I am) and I to the movie theatre-with my sister holding the popcorn money and he we watched the movie and other entertainment, as they would often have some kind of live shows, magic, dancing or the like. Us kids thought it was great and were sorry to leave. This video chilled me. When I read the lead-in, I thought it would be some kind of at gone wrong. I had no idea!! The poor, dear things and their parents! Good God!!
@@clobberelladoesntreadcomme9920 I agree. Even back in the 90's kids could run the neighborhoods from noon til supper. Or all day long in the summer time. Now days, parents will get reported to CPS/DCFS or the police, if they aren't withing 3 feet of their children at all time, helicopter parenting their kids. I've gotten a few dirty looks from other parents when at the park with my 14 year old and my 8 year old, and I sit in my car on hotter days. I still keep my eye on them every few minutes, but my daughter is 14 and of legal age to babysit other people's kids. But parents still give me THE EYE. I think a large part is because my kids are a lot shorter than most kids their age. Maybe people assume my kids are a few years younger than they are. But even so, I don't think the helicopter parenting is very healthy. When and how are children ever supposed to.learn independence or learn how to think on their own? Its sad, really.
And the Iroquois theater (fire regulations), coconut grove fire (now have to have regular doors on either side of a revolving door), and the triangle shirtwaist fire (employer bolted the doors shut), and the station nightclub, and love parade, and any number of crushes during pilgrimage to the Hage.... Humans are very good at crushing each other in a panic. And finding new ways to crush each other in a panic when safety regulations try to prevent it.
Oh I wonder if he'll do Hillsborough. That would be a long one. 30 years of developments will take time. Need to wait for the proceedings to conclude. YNWA.
I'm in the fire alarm / life safety industry, and it is indeed sad that many of the inventions, standards, codes and regulations pertaining to life safety in buildings, aircraft and vessels have come about as a result of tragedies such as this, the Coconut Grove fire, the Triangle Shirtwaist factory fire, the RMS Titanic sinking, and the SS Morro Castle fire, just to name a few.
There are 2 sides to this coin. On one hand, you can't foresee every event, every possibility, every flaw, without it occurring at some point. On the other, it is tragic when it does happen because in hindsight it feels preventable. But it is not always the case. This is not to say that some errors aren't indeed gross, and obvious, and those should be condemned. In this case I would argue why were there so few adults accompanying SO MANY CHILDREN !?! I cant really find fault in the staff, especially if they never hosted such an event with so many children as the audience
Still took years in some places for safety measures like emergency-exit push-bar doors to become mandatory, & even when they were fitted building or business owners often locked them or blocked them with goods!
Some years ago one hot summer's day, playing badminton in the local sports hall, it was decided the fire doors would be opened to increase ventilation. A group of 6 people gathered around the unopened doors NOT OPENING the doors ! "PUSH BAR TO OPEN" it has on the doors and 6 of them failed to open those doors.
@@stevie-ray2020 I kick open locked fire exits. In the case of locked emergency exits in a Wisbech car park, I just phoned the fire brigade on the emergency number. Within 10 mins, they'd turned up ready to cut the chains off.
Of all the sad and tragic events discussed on this channel, this has got to be the saddest. A true freak accident. No one at fault, no one to blame. No greedy companies, no crappy design, no negligence. Just hyped-up, innocent kids who had no idea what could happen.
I’m from Sunderland, it was known back then for its ship yard and mines. Many of the people came from poor working class backgrounds, which is why it made sense that many of the children were really eager to get toys and sweets as normally they could not afford them . The old building is now a museum and there is a small section in one of the parts that talks about the disaster. There is a toy horse displayed which was one of the toys that were handed out to the children.😔😔😔
So they restored the old building after it was bombed? That's nice - even though I understand why some people would be upset at the memory of what happened there, I hate to see old buildings abandoned or torn down.
I was under the impression that the building was demolished after it was bombed by the Germans. Maybe there was a second building built as a museum in the same area? I'll have to look into it more.
Kari .....the building was demolished after it was bombed and there is no trace of it at that spot now .....I think the building referred to is the Sunderland Museum and Art Gallery which is about 150 yards from the site of the Victoria Hall .....
They really should've thought ahead and threw some junk candy to the poor-kid section to avoid this one. (And yes, I actually edited this for sensitivity reasons..lol)
A while back I was on the floor for a particularly intense concert. Pretty much the whole front of the crowd had become a kind of mosh pit, since the audience was packed and extremely enthusiastic about the performance. It was one of the first big shows I'd ever been to. At one point, there was another girl who had half-fell down, supported upwards by the people around her but with her legs out. I got shoved and fell back onto her legs, and another girl fell onto me from behind, basically folding me in half between the two of them. It was maybe one of the scariest moments of my life. I started screaming, but the music and crowd was so loud I don't think many people could hear me. I was probably only down for a minute or two but the panic made it feel much longer- I could barely breathe like that, and I already had back problems so it was super painful. Luckily, before the crowd could surge much more, a different girl nearby noticed my screaming. She shoved the people that were pinning me down out of the way, yelling that someone was trapped and convincing people to help get me up. She got me out and made sure I wasn't hurt. I was able to navigate through the crowd and spent the last song of the set over a trashcan in the corner- a security guard had noticed what happened and followed me over, got me water from the bar and stayed with me until my dad came to pick me up, talking me through my panic attack with stories from his first shows and pits and making sure I didn't pass out or anything. That girl in the crowd and the security guard were fuckin angels. Hearing stories about crowd crush like this reminds me how lucky I am that people in the music community and such are aware of how dangerous situations like this can be, these days. Sidenote, but it's also strange how the smallest or weirdest details of events get remembered. A few people had snuck weed into the venue and the whole crowd had reeked of it when I went down. The smell had never bothered me before- where I grew up, it was far from uncommon- but since then, I can't be near it without feeling sick.
What a terrifying experience . I’m glad that you came out of it in one piece ! Thank God there were people who saw what was happening and took action .
When I was in middle school I went to see Black Veil Brides, and after the openers played a stagehand came on stage and announced that BVB would not come out until the crowd backed up. He pointed out how the people in the front were being pinned/crushed and the band wouldn’t play until it was resolved. My mom and I were standing on the balcony (to avoid such crush) and seeing those poor folks in the front made me decide to only attend seated concerts lol.
Oh my god so sorry. That is one of my worst nightmares being crushed/in a mosh pit. My friend pulled a girl up from almost being trampled on as she saw her sort of falling and just grabbed her to keep her upright and helped her out after. To this day, I never go into mosh pits and stay towards the back of the crowd and make sure that we have enough space to evacuate in case if something goes wrong.
I think this is the most horrible and horrifying story--that I've seen--so far on this channel. And the saddest. Having been in a shoulder to shoulder packed crowd once at a convention, I can tell you it is nearly impossible to go against the crowd. It's like a wall. Scary even in a non-life-threatening situation. I can't imagine how awful something like this would be.
November 9, 1989, my husband and I had to lift our 3 children above waist high so they wouldn't be crushed. I was 7 months pregnant. The Berlin wall had just fallen, and we had to take the S-Bahn home cuz our car overheated. I couldn't really be upset...people were so very happy!
I remember going to football matches in the 1980s (pre-Hillsborough) and when you were leaving at the end of the game in the exit areas there was always something of a crush. Nothing serious, but you could really feel the pressure of other people against your own body. I would think, what if somebody tripped and fell over? It never happened of course but it might have done. It wasn't a major concern but I was always just a little bit relieved to get out.
I can't even imagine what it must be like, putting on a show with the hopes of making children smile and then realizing your actions indirectly led to their deaths.
@@leotoad7991, you watch a hundred disaster videos, you see that phrase a thousand times, you begin to feel like it's a cheap way to sound serious and smart. Not blaming you for being the thousandth and first, but I wish people would say something different and more nuanced and to the point. For example that world is too complicated for predicting every new kind of disaster.
This took place in my home city, and I always looked at the statue as a child and wondered what it was for. I never understood. As I got older and looked into the story, whenever I walk into mowbray park, I now take a moment to pay respects to the statue and the memory of everyone affected by the crush. Such a devastating and preventable disaster.
As a child I visited the memorial statue on a school trip, I didn't understand what it was for and asked a teacher. He explained to me roughly what happened, and I was horrified but over time it was a distant memory and I couldn't remember if it was real or not. I clicked on this video completely unsuspecting and found all the details the same as I had vaguely remembered them. What a horrific disaster
I live around the corner from where this happened, my great great grandfather was a sailor from norway who stayed behind to help clear the bodies and that's where he met my great great grandmother. So I guess wouldn't be here if this didn't happen which is a pretty wild thought...
My parents met because my dad was a campus cop/student that volunteered extra shifts to help guard the sorority houses (where Mom lived) at FSU after Ted Bundy's attack there. It is super weird to think that tragedies like that (and this disaster) can change lives in a good way too.
I never realized how dangerous crowds of people can be until I started watching these videos. There's a list of crush and stampede disasters on Wikipedia, with dates ranging from 66 AD to 2021, and victims numbering one to 10,000. Locations include countries all over the world, indicating that most humans are capable of mindless panic-the fight-or-flight response gone mad.
The statue used to be in a local cemetery a few miles away, without a case, and almost forgotten about, but it was moved to the park opposite the site of the Victoria Hall, where many of the bodies had been laid out
As soon as you said the door only had a small opening I knew what was coming. Those poor children. Thank you for bringing light to the tragic incident.
I deleted my high-rated comment here, maybe a month ago, because someone was arguing with me about this. I said something akin to "We need to teach children about crowd safety at school." Here we are after Astrofest. I took back my comment because someone seemingly convinced me humanity was inherently evil and there was no use educating people. I don't know, I think my mind has changed once again.
The world is shit man. Bad things happen to good people, and sometimes, good things happen to bad people. Life can be gone in the blink of an eye to completely innocent people, even children. Also, don't expect kids to retain information about something boring like crowd safety, and especially don't expect them to even act on it if they do retain it. Whole reason why adult supervision is a thing.
@@SputniksArmy I know but we still teach kids to dial emergency and the alphabet. Some things DO stick with kids. Or teenagers, or even highschool seniors. Just find somewhere to throw this into the curriculum because it's real. I got so much shit from people for suggesting this, and they had similar points to yours, that was "it's not even worth trying to teach" but I respectfully disagree.
It was the 1800 I'm sure they didn't care too much. Lol the empathy felt today is no doubt 1000x times in those who have empathetic tendencies rather than those who don't obviously... But just the opinion I feel may be factual although not going to be able to be proven. It probably wasn't too much a a grievance or stresser to the parents to a child who were there. I could be wrong about them specifically. But not the jist of what I'm sayin u heeeaaarrrrrd
Just another reason to keep your kids close. Even the mundane can be deadly, especially to the tiny humans who haven't developed any self preservation yet
Dont have children and this horrified me to my core just thinking of them dieing because they wanted candy and fuck those magicians for not being fair would have seen to a lynching put them in a fucking vise And im a pacifist but dang anyone with a drop of common sense should've seen it would cause a problem Thing I wana know is they all payed the same to get in was it the poor children up stairs I know in the Iroquois theater fire they had a gate locked to the upstairs where the poor were killing most of them
@@TheKyoshiFan Exactly. Our technology is advancing way faster than general society can socially handle it. A human being is a marvel, humankind is a bunch of stupid, destructive apes.
All the stories from this channel are horrifying and shocking, but this is the first time I've genuinely cried. I can't even imagine what these little kids were feeling.
I first thought you were going to say that the gallery collapsed with the weight of children rushing forward to get the prizes, but their weight probably wouldn’t have made that much difference. Poor little kids, most would’ve died horrifying, slow deaths.
Why does this remind me of the escalator accident at Expo ‘67 in Montreal? A TV crew was filming in the Soviet Pavilion and sent large coils of electric cord unattended, down the escalator. There was no one to pick it up below, and they didn’t close it off to people. Several people were killed and many more injured. I was 9 years old, there with my father. He saw what was happening and his military training kicked in. I was ordered to stand against a post and not move while he set two men to pulling people off the pile and ran up another escalator to take charge upstairs. When the proper authorities arrived, Dad retrieved me at the pole and we went back to our motel.
Wow that's an amazing story. I am glad you and your father were able to make it out of there unscathed. Is there any documentaries about that incident that you know of?
@@mondenkindqueen nobody would 'throw it down' when they can just let the escalator haul the whole thing. Large bundles of cord on set don't have a shock risk, there's a good deal of warning people off to avoid having them kicked about or fouled up. I can't find a single peep anywhere that this actually happened and my mate's been in the business and hasn't heard of it either. Big canandian coverup?
Cotton Candie actually a simple google search shows there have been lots of escalator accidents there. I think the cords were put on the escalator thinking they would ride down it and fall off at the bottom, but they piled up there and people got on behind them, not knowing when they reached the bottom there was no way out and the thing kept moving, bringing more people before they could climb over.
I was caught in a crowd many years ago. It was terrifying: we were attending an outdoor parade. The sidewalk passage became quite narrow with everyone crowding to see the event. Several people stopped on the sidewalk, probably to view the parade. Everyone was suddenly packed tightly together between the storefronts and the street, which had many already in place. Nowhere to go, the crowd began pushing and my sister and I were physically lifted and moved as the crowd pushed in several directions. At one moment I was pressed tightly against a plate glass storefront & could hear the groan of the frame just before it shattered, raining glass down on us. Neither of us were injured, but one man wasn't as fortunate, sustaining cuts on his head and face. The crowd scattered and help arrived for the victim who was quickly taken to hospital.
God this is so terrifying. Those poor children and their families. RIP. Crowd crushes (plus mosh pits), fires and drowing are personally my nightmares. Always keep back and give yourself enough space to evacuate/check for exits.
I hardly cry over these horror stories, but this one just broke me. Kids were just there to have some fun and it quickly turned deadly, i couldnt imagine the horrible death the poor kids suffered
Same here. I listen to and read a lot of things like this and rarely get emotional about but it's very hard not to cry about this incident. It's just total horror.
I like how in his videos, even though the tragedies were horrible, he gives a bit of a silver lining to them by stating the positive results that came from it. Makes tragedies a little more meaningful.
Those poor babies. :( They didn’t know any better. They were so innocent. ❤️ I can’t imagine the overwhelming heartbreak and self-blame those parents went through for the rest of their lives.
@@andredeketeleastutecomplex The issue was so far beyond the door though. 20 inches open..? If the kids had been walking normally, all would’ve been well. It was the overpacking of the venue and the lack of adults that caused it I would say
I used to live in Sunderland, it’s always so sad when I used to see the statue in Mowbray Park. I had to explain why it was there to my partner and he cried. It’s so tragic.
Had no idea this happened during Queen Victoria rein. I'm thankful she was able to provide the funds for proper burials. Just devastating.. The invention of the release door came from grief and loss. Had no idea it was so personal. You are correct about lives saved. Thanks for sharing..
it's really disheartening when you think about how cameras weren't affordable back then, so pretty much all major events were drawn, which would've taken hours. I can't imagine having to sit there and draw children accidentally crushing each other for the local newspaper
So incredibly sad 😞 The Queen handled this as a true Queen should. Also knowing that a new type of door was invented as a direct result shows the good side of humanity, all coming together after a horrible tragedy and doing their best to make sure this loss was not completely in vain ❤️
Funny that back then they considered the building unsightly. nowadays it would be considered a fine example of Gothic architecture. Also, kudos to the young kid who was so mover by this tragedy that he later became an engineer and developed the emergency push bar door. He is in many regards a hero for all the lives his invention went on to save.
It’s so sad when people die but it just hits different when it’s a child!!! You wouldn’t catch me going back there after all those babies were killed in there!😓😓😓
Fantastic video and great research!! I went through my whole life just assuming that the horizontal bars on doors were just regular locks. I never knew that those were crash bars, and the inventor was a survivor of such a horrific case of human crush as a child. Just the term “human crush” fills me with dread. Hillsborough human crush disaster, The Who concert disaster, and The Station nightclub fire come to mind... all horrific incidents.
And 9/11 - where the Port Authority received an exception to the New York City building code that all stairwells are to be made of concrete. For some reason, the city and the Port Authority both thought that for the tallest buildings in NY at the time - did not need concrete stairwells. Many died there...
Stephanie Logan what was the name of the nightclub fire in Brazil I think ? Horrific. People rushed into the toilets and were trapped by all the people rushing in after them.
I work as an Event Manager in a theatre hall just like this. Whenever we have students come for field trips I am constantly having to get after children for running chaotically through the venue. I know I seem like a kill joy to them, but they don't understand how quickly crowded situations can become unsafe. Crowd management isn't just about organization, it's about safety.
My aunt suffered lifelong crippling claustrophobia because of that fire. And my mother didn't go because it was her birthday and she had a party at home instead.
I live in Sunderland and that statue has had to be moved several times because of people who can’t leave things alone, when I was little it was in the cemetery and I remember my nana trying to explain what it was for without giving me nightmares. There’s a few little reminders of this around Sunderland
@E. It's ok, monarchy was substituted by a bunch of politicians who now stole our money on our behalf and tell us we are spoiled for demanding things such as free education. Their salaries need to be paid!
Can we take a moment to appreciate she used her powers of exclusive legal right to decide who in her family could be married to play matchmaker and ultimately the products of that ended up becoming the heads of states on both sides that started WW1 killing millions
I can’t help but recall an incident in my youth when I was at camp. The adults were telling ghost stories and the gym teacher came running out of the woods with a flashlight. I was near the back and was not at all surprised by his appearance as I had noticed him walk in that general direction. The other kids though stampeded wildly. Even though I never got up I was trampled on and my right hand severely cut. To this day I am mindful of all exits and develop exit strategies.
I've kicked locked fire exits open and called fire brigade on other emergency exit gates that were locked. So next time you're in the supermarket and passing a fire exit....
My heart breaks for those poor children and their parents. I had no idea there was such a thing as traveling shows geared exclusively toward children back in the 1800’s. It’s strange that the whole town allowed their young children to go to a show completely unsupervised.
There have always been, and will always be, people of poor moral fiber who see only things to destroy. Man is at once the greatest and most terrible of God's creations.
😡 I don’t care WTH is going on socially, economically, or if it’s the apocalypse going on. I would NEVER deface or deliberately damage a memorial. Much less a memorial for children!!!
You always present these tragedies with sensitivity and insight, which is a great credit to you. Humans have a curiosity about death and tragedy which is understandable; and while you address these things you always remind us that this was someone’s child,someone’ brother,sister, mother or father.And in that way they are no longer victims Of a bizarre footnote in history; they are all remembered as people who where loved.
Those poor children and their families! 😭😭😭💔💔💔 Thank you Robert Alexander Briggs for the crash bar. Such a tragic story, well narrated and well put together. Great work. 👍👍👍
Absolutely horrific. I’d never heard about this before. The Hillsborough disaster in Sheffield has always been close to my heart as a Liverpool fan, I remember it so well. Can’t imagine the horror for those parents, thinking your kids are safe at a magic show. We complain so much about Health & Safety rules but these disasters are a blunt reminder why they’re so important.
I've been binge watching your videos for a few days now, and I have to say, this was easily the most distressing one. The fact that these were all children who didn't know any better, most of them under 10 years old... it's just so disturbing. I don't think I'll be able to look at crash bars the same way again
As soon as its said none of the prizes were reaching the upper 2 floors, I immediatly started thinking, "Oh, no. No! No,no,no,no,no!" And it was worse than I could have imagined.
As an architect, I often bemoan egress code requirements and their limitations on design. It’s stories like this however that gravely remind me of the terrible importance of being responsible for the ‘health, safety, and welfare of the public’. Well done, sir. RIP, little ones.
God bless Frederick Graham and the other adults that arrived on the scene, though the loss was still huge, I can't imagine the larger number of children who would have passed had they not worked desperately to get the kids to safety.
You’d think that this kind of lack of spatial awareness is only in children, but there are several cases of adults mindlessly crushing people to death too
I've been interested in historic disasters for over half my life, and tbh this is one of the most horrific I can think of. Partially because ALL of the victims were children, partially because it was an event meant to be fun and magical, but mostly because there was no external factor such as a fire, flood, or storm that caused all the deaths. Just human error. The children literally killed one another. The death of every child in that disaster was directly caused by another child (albeit unintentionally - I'm certainly not blaming them!). I can't imagine the guilt that the survivors must have felt. It makes me shudder. Just horrifying.
As if you needed another reason to keep away from crowds. Stay safe out there, everyone!
There's always a reason to avoid crowds-covid being the current one. Thankfully, this incident led to improvements to safety and crowd control.
i read this comment in your voice lmao
reemmy pearson lawl
I’m introverted so I avoid them at all costs!!!
Just found your channel and I love it!
Existing in the 1800s was a death sentence huh
Pretty much. And you knew it was gonna be horrible when it came. Ah, history.
Definitely a death sentence as they are all dead now anyway ;)
Sweetie, existing NOW is a death sentence
@@Mimi-cq4bg smh i was gonna say... same shit can happen today. lots of unsafe buildings still exist everywhere.
@Beck Freeman you have 183 likes...which is the same number of children who were killed in this tragedy.
I clicked thinking the building burned with a lot of adults and some children inside because of the thumbnail but I am now surprised and horrified that almost 200 children were crushed to death by other children instead.
Me too, I was expecting a fire from one of the special effects of the act but did not expect at all it was children eager to get free stuff that was going to be the disaster.
Same here
Same. I thought this was for sure a foreshadowing / British version of the Iroquois Theater Fire.
I didnt know what I was watching but im sad 😞
Horrifying
So THATS why teachers said “SINGLE FILE LINES”
Omg that makes sense
Standard health and safety at this point
Honestly, I think this video should be mandatory viewing for children around the age of 10, right about when they're asking why they have to stand in those lines but after they're old enough to handle this tale.
@@adiuntesserande6893 for real haha
Cause They Don’t Want To Kill Children, Suddenly Schools Sound Less Scary🤔
One of the saddest stories I heard from this event was of a woman who went with her friend as moral support to collect her child's body, safe in the knowledge that she hadn't sent her own son, because she couldn't afford it. Only to find her own son lying next to the womans son, because the boy's friend paid for him to get in!!!
God
That’s soo sad
Dang. I can't even imagine.
Shit happens lol
@@donvito5647 I wouldn't say this is a lol moment.
Crowd crush is one of the scariest ways to die
Does put a different twist to the name; 'Candy-Crush'!
I've worked in security which included crowd management, there are a lot of regulations in the UK intended to prevent these things from happening again at events (even down to width of exit routes, incline of the ground and colours of signage etc) but you'd be surprised how serious the risk still is, mostly because people don't understand how their own actions lead to these crushes. Although this tragic story is about kids and it's kind of suggested that they didn't know better, 90% of adults don't know better either. This is why crushes still happen at music venues and festivals. People just have no idea that pushing forward at the back of a crowd causes a magnified wave of pressure at the front, and if there are people there who can't get out, it's incredibly dangerous.
This kind of problem still happens every few years at Mecca pilgrimage. Folks at the back don't realise theres something wrong at the front.
How do you know?
It's a fascinating/horrifyingly look into human psychology/sociology.
The thing I really like about these videos is the bit at the end: "as a result, a thing was invented, a law passed, systems changed, to ensure that this never happens again."
The history of regulation is written in blood, and it's so important to remember why we have these things in place.
I was just thinking this after it saddened me deeply that the "Mansfield Bar" which is the steel bar that hangs from the back of the cargo area of a semi-truck was also created/invented for safety in the states.
It was named after movie star Jayne Mansfield was killed along with 2 other adults in a car crash nearly scalping her head in the tragic accident as it went underneath the truck. Now a days all semis have a this safety measures in case of an accident, the vehicle does not go under. Sad beginnings for human innovations.
The Good news was her 3 children in the back seat survived with minor injuries and one of them is Actress Mariska Hargitay, from Law & Order fame.
@Brandon Piperjack ¹¹1
@Brandon Piperjack As one old lady used to say, "where's the beef?" Just 40-50 years ago people were worried sick about a new ice age, as the winters of '77-'78 seemed to lean in that direction. One medium-large volcano puts more emissions in the air than all the hydrocarbons burned by humans in 500 years. But I do love it when someone driving an SUV has a sticker warning about it.
On the railways of Britain this method of invention is sometimes called "tombstone technology ".
But regulations stifle business and cost jobs! Who cares about a few people getting killed or permanently disfigured or paralyzed etc.?
That theater caretaker was an absolute hero, leading 600 children to safety??? Absolutely fucking amazing.
Ikr! Not many people are mentioning him but him being there to help probably saved a huge amount of kids
Agreed!! 👏👏👏 Fast thinking on his part since it apparently wasn't possible to directly clear the choke point.
His citation from Queen Victoria used the exact same phrase.
@@Vpmatt "Absolutely fucking amazing!" - Queen Victoria
@@MrZoolook I'm DEAD 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 "Feeeeeeerter" bwahahahahaha
Gosh, can you imagine being the teacher at the Sunday school and finding out that every single kid in your class has perished in the tragedy?
no
@@oldermusiclover Understandable, have a nice day.
@@littlecuteangel112 me neither 😐
Must've been devastating
Or school teacher could you imagine one day seeing all those faces and then next school day none of them in your class or a completely empty school
The kid who grew up to invent those crash doors is a great example of how to someone can turn a personal trauma into action. Good on them!
Poison into medicine.
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When life gives you lemons!
I will never look at a crash door the same.
That is exactly how the Heimlich procedure was invented. Henry Heimlich became a doctor and saved many, many lives due to a personal tragedy. He also invented the jest tube to relieve pressure on the lungs after a chest wound. Some times tragedy is inspiring.
Oh yes an auditorium full of unsupervised, small children... what could go wrong??
Unsupervised children is never, never good. Even when it doesn't end in disaster.
@@FascinatingHorror 100% agreed
Exactly, I have two kids and I watch them like a hawk!! I don’t even let them play in the yard with my supervision!🙏🏽
@Melanie Daria If you have a family of 13+ like my Irish great great grandma it probably becomes a lot harder to do that (unless you train them to watch each other)
That makes me wonder if this tightened the restrictions on child to adult numbers in field trip events. Sure it’s common sense, but that doesn’t stop people from being irresponsible to save money on staff
My 1st job was in a cinema, in a mall. Our manager was an ex fireman. He made us check stairwells every other day. Once the evacuation alarm went off, because someone burnt toast in a staff room in a shop below us. We had to evacuate hundreds of people, he always told us 1 person goes down the stairwell & checks it’s safe to send everyone down, one stays up top to direct people. Shout Green to go ahead, Red to use the next nearest exit. We never had to shout red. The point is, I never fully understood why he was so particular about checking stairwells & fire doors. If a push bar even so much as sounded off it was replaced within a day, but god am I glad he was like this. Now I understand what he feared so much. Don’t ever think that because we live in a more advanced world things like this video might never happen. If you have to work in a place, you’re required do fire training, do it & take it in! like your life depends on it. Cause you never know that might just be the case, not just your own life but many, many others.
*thank you* - that's great advice (re the person ahead - behind..) - I've always volunteered to be a fire warden at various work places since my first 'proper' job in 1985 - and have always taken it seriously (& work has always paid - sent us off for first aid training as well - a 2 day course, or a one day 'refresher' course annually)
You are right, a couple of years ago a discotheque here in the netherlands burned down because someone set of fireworks inside. And then the exit doors were bolted up to prevent illegal entrance from outside. Quite some people died and it sounds a lot like some of these horror stories. Somebody thought of money first and then people died.
"because we live in a more advanced world" - with mentalities retarded, partly because of the false assumption that regulations and technology can and will protect people from anything and everything, so they don't need to think for themselves or have any mechanical sense.
@@LaurieWilliams-lk8fc well said - completely agree
however - we do also need regulations and technology as well as basic common sense and human initiative
(mid argument on another video - control tower vs small plane pilot who is not following very clear instructions in very busy airport - regulations - put in place to keep EVERYONE safe
(me & pilots going - control guy in right = insisting on simple 'yes I have that info AND my callsign') painful listening to small plane pilot repeatedly does one OR the both - not both - starts to READ OUT the info - *TWICE* )
others = going oh that guy in the control tower is being a (insert your derogatory remark here)
& back to me & pilots - no he's not - he is doing his JOB - rules & regulations - conversations recorded - investigation if all goes - wrong
sorry = all common theme - basic health & safety = regulations and other measures are put in place for a REASON - learn from past mistakes so future tragedy averted
I found a locked fire exit in a theatre. I didn't mention it to management. I just kicked the door open breaking the door frame where the lock bolt was.
Another time, I found an enclosed car park in Wisbech with the metal fire exit gates chained and locked shut. A short 'emergency' call to the fire service and within 10 minutes they'd arrived with their bolt cutters. Not actually used as they got management to remove the chains.
As an engineering student i really feel that a minimum of 5 hours of your content should be watched by anyone graduating with a engineering degree, people need to understand the effect that a small amount of safe design can save hundreds if not thousands of lives.
Oh god, yes. I’ve watched quite a few of these, a lot of them being about fires. It has made me understand for example what a monumental deference just which way a door opens can make in these types of situations.
@@rarewind Some years ago one hot summer's day, playing badminton in the local sports hall, it was decided the fire doors would be opened to increase ventilation. A group of 6 people gathered around the unopened doors NOT OPENING the doors ! "PUSH BAR TO OPEN" it has on the doors and 6 of them failed to open those doors.
The safest thing you can do is keep people out !
Its an interesting video, nothing more. I can read the same info on wikipedia and its sources in less time, more accuracy, and more information. I think you are both overestimating the value of this presentation form and grossly underestimating most engineers.
@@victorvonsteuben1728 Might be overestimating if you only take into account the value of this single video. Of cours anyone can get just as much information from Wikipedia. First of all will they ? Secondly these videos put a lot of emphasis on the impact of the decisions made by individuals that could have easily prevented disaster. I also don't think i would say that many Wikipedia articles have an emotional impact on people. I was just trying to give praise to a content creator that I enjoy.
Interesting that the emergency exit bar was invented by a child who was present during this disaster!
straight jacket, the story said he GREW UP to invent the push bar after surviving the disaster as a child. He grew up and studied engineering at university.
The man who threw the sweets is guilty.
Didn't know that.
@Greg Moonen The victorian man didnt invent the crash bar specifically, but did invent a very early version of it, which has been changed and adapted since to become easier to use, etc. And really? As in the writer Kurt Vonnegut? Like his dad or something?
@@ItsJustLisa I listened again and it does Not say he was in the disaster
It's sad when you need to protect a statue of a weeping mother holding her dead child from vandals. 😤
Missy Cabic I was thinking the exact same thing. How sad. 😢
They destroy cemeteries and war memorials...and Jesus wept...what have we become.....
Very sad, indeed!
Someone stole my great aunt's headstone a few years ago. My great aunt died a week after her third birthday from cystic fibrosis and my grandmother was so poor at the time that the only reason she had a headstone at all was because the community pitched in and donated it. People have no respect for the dead anymore.
Pie is better than cake Fight me That’s terrible and I’m so sorry that happened to your family!
The magician couple actually sounds like they were pretty kind, putting on a show for children and handing out gifts.
I'm happy their magic show wasn't affected that badly. I bet they felt horrible about it
@@indigoandriko4216 I think so too.
@@indigoandriko4216 I'd be too traumatized to where I'd never perform again if I were them
Not so.
The Fays - Alexander and his sister Annie (not his wife as in the intro) had orchestrated the event to make a tidy profit. It was one of the Fay's associates that bolted the door that caused 'the crush' although the individual was never actually accused albeit a number of surviving children giving evidence at the Bishopwearmouth inquest (there were two inquests, the second being at Monkwearmouth) identified the very individual who kicked the drop bolt into its keep as a tall man with black curly hair (which fits the description of the individual who is my prime suspect).
I am currently doing a lot of research into this disaster as I suspect there were possibly 6 more children than the acknowledged 183 who died as a result of this but died later 'off-site'.
This disaster led an Architect, living in Sunderland at the time - one Robert Alexander Briggs, to invent the panic bolt (aka push bar to open) which he applied for the patent in 1891 and it being granted in 1892.
The second inquest held in the parish of Monkwearmouth disagreed with the first inquest's findings. One of the Coroner's recommendations coming from the Monkwearmouth inquest was that all exit doors in public buildings be outaward opening and this was thus enshrined in UK legislation.
@@indigoandriko4216: Alexander Fay actually lied at the inquest as if the transcript of the Bishopwearmouth Inquest is read he changes his story.
It was actually one of his associates who bolted the door (this individual was described by surviving children at one of the inquests although the individual was never actually accused).
That's why I stay home every Black Friday.
Adults behave like children when greed comes into the picture
Agreed. I tried Black Friday shopping one time. The way people were acting over some of the stupidest crap raised my anxiety so much I was ready to kill the next person that shoved me. I split and never did it again.
Yeah not worth it unless you're in the mood to beat the piss out of someone. Lol. Which sometimes we are. They act like immature greedy scumbags
What's "Black Friday"?
@@alukuhito In the US, Black Friday refers to the day after Thanksgiving (which is celebrated on the fourth Thursday of November). Being the day after Thanksgiving, it is widely seen as the peak of the Christmas shopping season, and for many retailers, it's considered one of the most important sales days of the year. Many stores have Black Friday sales which involve offering appreciable discounts on all sorts of merchandise. This has the effect of luring in larger-than-normal numbers of customers, many of whom behave irrationally as a result of wanting to get the best deals on their Christmas shopping. There are many, *many* instances of Black Friday resulting in panics, crushes, and violent confrontations between shoppers; as someone who has actually worked an overnight Black Friday shift at my local mall, I can tell you, it's really nothing short of madness. People will actually push and shove and fight each other over the opportunity to buy new shoes or handbags or TV sets at reduced prices. I will *NEVER* work a Black Friday shift again if I can help it-- once was traumatic enough.
@@chevand8 Sounds like Boxing Day, just more violent.
I hate crowds and have bad claustrophobia. This story is seriously my worst nightmare. Those poor kids.
likewise, but one of the best jobs i had was part time security guard for the Melbourne Concert Hall (Victoria Australia, now called Hamer Hall), i'd go in from 10pm to 2 am and do the lock up, so crowds were leaving as i started shift.
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i was very conscious of emergency exits, and fire rated doors propped open (against regs etc).
At a Christian concert a friend dragged me a long to as a 14 year old bringing me to the front of the tent. The metal bar in front of the speakers. The crowds packed in and pushed me toward the rail. A fat middle aged man was squashed me right into the rail. It was crushing my ribs and squashing oxygen out of my lungs. I couldn't breath in or out. I tried to lean back to signal to the man behind me but even tapping him he grumped at me calling me rude and how he won't move for me. Crowds continued to pile in and he pushed me further into the rail. I was feeling myself almost go unconscious. My friend finally came to my side after she went somewhere and tried to talk to me. She could see me in distress and saw the rail and told the man behind me to step back. To get the air in my lungs again, after I had space to breath and move away from the rail and after apology from behind me, was difficult. But luckily I could breath again though shallow and tight. My friend promised if I go with her again next time we won't stand where the rails are. But it freaked me out so badly I chose to never visit one like it again. I did go to decent concerts though there was seating and no risk of a crowd taking up your personal space. I really can not stand buses for this reason either they also pack buses up and they stand too close beside you and squash you against the person at the window seat. Difficult also getting out and off. You say excuse me as loud as you can in the crowds loud voices they never hear you. Bus drivers should never let on passengers if it means standing. For fire safety reasons at least there was only ever one exist on the bus and that was at the front. I sit at the front for claustrophobic and transport sickness reasons
@@healingandgrowth-infp4677 I know some people who do alot of traveling, mostly around the U.S. one thing they all have in common is a hatred or fear of public transportation.
One friend from highschool went to Las Angles and came back vowing to never take public transportation outside of Canada lol
Don't watch anything about the Station Nightclub fire then
Not claustrophobic myself, but I detest crowds too. If I spend an entire day amidst one, even if I don't exert myself much, I end it worn out anyway. I feel as if crowds slowly drain out my energy.
I can't imagine...searching row after row of dead bodies for your deceased child. Christ.
One guy lost his entire family...so sad!
Right you just think your sending them off for a fun time and because of them wanting candy and toys to they pay with their lives 😢🥺😭😢😥😭
And like in the Iroquois theater fire why was this door to the upper area like that its bull
@@terranovarain6570 Or the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory fire. I saw a documentary on PBS about that one. Bodies burnt beyond recognition laid out on the sidewalk, and all for greedy corporate fat cats LOCKING THE EMPLOYEES inside the building.
Usually when disaster strikes, you check the bodies first and then hospitals. Now days we have lists, and you only get to look at the unidentified bodies if your person isn't on the identified list. Which is in a way usually worse. Because those bodies are usually really difficult to identify visually.
@@fanaticat1 I imagine seeing all but your last kid in that line up and just hoping more than anything you at least have that one left. Just _one_ glimmer of hope, a kind of peculiar silver lining to your personal hell, only to find their face... I'd absolutely be in a similar state of ruin.
Imagine the guilt from the Fays when ALL they did was good to those kids - giving them toys and candy.
As a follow-spot operator at the back of the upper level, at panto time when they threw sweets for the kids downstairs from the stage, we had sweets for the upstairs kids.
Sad thing is even if the door wasn't bolted half shut the odds of a crush still occuring would be really high
Pretty cool of queen Victoria to pay for the children’s funerals. Their families already had so much to worry about...
I agree. When do you ever see a rich corporation or single doner that a building is named after contribute to a disaster in that building that they had exactly nothing to do with?! Would even the queen do that today, I wonder, for a tragedy of similar scope?
I thought that too! And the fact that local businesses shut for a short while out of respect for the dead. It was a whole different world back then
She's the best Queen this country has ever had.
@William Martibez I guess that's a fair opinion. I feel like we so seldom see such decency from the rich and powerful that it feels really heartening. But maybe the state of the current political climate has me setting the bar for altruism too low.
As if royalty of every generation doesn't ritually murder children..and worse. Grow-tf-up.
Man, I feel so bad for the performers. Idk if I could continue living with thinking that my actions of throwing out toys and candy caused kids to crush each other...
I’m guessing that the Fays didn’t have any children. If they were parents, they might have recognized that the children upstairs would be jealous and want candy too. They should have been given the sweets as they exited the hall.
I mean, if they had done this show before, it might have only been in small town halls with standing room only, no balconies. They wouldn’t have realised the need to change the way they distributed the prizes. It is very tragic that they didn’t though.
@@ItsJustLisa That's a good idea. They should have been given the prizes / sweets at the end. In my opinion they venue invited too many children (and not enough adults) and hired too few adult caretakers, and the performers didn't really think it through with such a large venue. Very sad, but this kind of thing unfortunately happens even among adults as well. Panic is a terrible thing.
@@megandunnett7900 maybe give each child a piece of candy as they enter...throwing out candy created the chaos
TheDude Abides I’m not arguing about what they should've done. I was just pointing out why they might not of thought of it.
Feel sorry for the caretaker who discovered the mass of bodies, all those children crying for help must have been heart wrenching
"Every child, alive or dead". That phrase sent chills through my body. As soon as I heard that the performers began throwing toys and prizes to the crowd I knew how this was going to go, but oh my goodness.
I can't imagine the horror and despair felt that day. Either taking a carriage or walking down to collect your child from what was supposed to be a joyous and fantastical show only to hear shouts and cries that children have died. Before today I never knew of this tragedy,thankyou for taking the time to educate your viewers.
Educate? You mean entertain?
@@chokichocat3083 , I think educate is accurate...sometimes people don't think of consequences of their actions. In this case it was young children with little adult supervision so is sadly understandable. Adults are also sometimes vulnerable to the very same thing.
@@chokichocat3083 educate. Some people actually like historical videos as horrible as some of the subjects can be, to learn something new.
How about the trauma by the kids who survived? Imagine being 4-10 years old and witnessing that or barely making it out alive. Ugh. It's heartbreaking
@@jasonhaynes2952 I know =(
So I now know the reason behind the push bar is that almost 200 hundred children died over candy 😬
No. The pushbar actually came from the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory Fire, which was worse.
Science Fiction Double Feature how is that worse? This had more deaths and they were children 🤔
@@taylorrhouser Arguably, the Triangle fire was worse because exit doors were locked in order to stop employee theft/employees leaving the building (also I assume to keep employees from leaving early and stealing wages) and a majority of the elevators were out of service iirc. Firefighter ladders could not reach the floor that the fire was on, and the fire escape collapsed. Many workers chose to jump instead of burn to death.
Victoria Hall disaster while the death toll was higher, was a terrible accident that caused the deaths of hundreds of children via the bolted door that in normal circumstances shouldn't have caused death, while Triangle was an accident exacerbated by negligence and unsafe workplace conditions.
This isn't to make light of the children who died in the theater as that too shouldn't have happened, but that their deaths weren't due to intentional actions or neglect of lifesaving measures.
Both accidents are terrible, but Triangle Shirtwaist caused a lot of workplace safety reform.
Iroquois theater fire helped to rewrite fire safety and doors that open outward with a push bar as well
Yes, ultimately, it also led towards the concept of fire codes and building capacity, crowds in general are dangerous, so it looks like people never learn because the same kinds of tragedies are inevitably approaching in our crumbly infrastructure of 2020
Crowd crush and fires are two of my biggest fears of a way to die. That one club where people got jammed into the doors as a fire burned behind them is terrifying. Always find the exits. Always stay close to them.
After the Station nightclub fire happened in Rhode Island back in 2003 it became the law for all buildings across the country to have sprinklers. Also, all exits cannot be blocked, must clearly be labeled and have lights, and there must be 2 or more exits. A lot changed after this fire. Like they say "safety regulations are written in blood"
We're a lot safer in buildings now because of that tragic incident
@@shadowsinmymind9 I happen to live in Rhode Island even tho I wasn’t around when the station fire happened(wasn’t around until 2006) it feels odd knowing I live in the same area where one of the worst nightclub fires took place
@@shadowsinmymind9 can you believe that a bouncer at that club wouldn't allow the back door open ; that it was for staff only
Not too bright ..
@@kingjester564 I visited the spot last year. They have stones with pictures of all the victims. So many young people died. Its a beautiful memorial. Here in Massachusetts and Rhode island we all know people who were going to go to the club that night but changed their mind.
@@denisepleines1513 yeah, and then he ran out of the building and left his wife to die inside
The renderings look like something out of a horror book. This is so heartbreaking, all because parents were too busy (rightfully so, many had to work and a penny was a lot) to accompany these children to an exciting life event. Honestly props to Queen Victoria for paying for funerals. Also, Im glad the Fays weren’t blamed for what happened, they had no way of knowing something like this would happen.
It was a different time. Children went unaccompanied to most places. It's always a mistake to judge the past from the point of view of the present. After all, you know what you know BECAUSE of what happened. Hindsight is always 20/20.
@@CrazyMazapan I literally say "rightfully so" in my comment. I'm not judging the parents in any way. A penny was a lot back then, I can't imagine what some of those families had to sacrifice or how much extra work they did so their child could have a fun day, only for it to turn into a tragedy.
Queen Victoria didn't pay for the funerals. A fund was set up and Queen Victoria donated 50 pounds (about 75 USD at the time).
It was one of the Fay's associates who bolted the door.
But if you lived then you would understand it. Hell I can't believe how I grew up in just the 80s compared to today, now I think of all the times I couldve been killed or kidnapped lol
@Nikki Lauren years ago children were seen as 'adults' and were made to work and do chores at a young age. Thankfully that has changed
I can’t imagine just letting your very little kids go off to some show with a thousand other kids and no adults. what a diff world we live in now
I wish kids still had that freedom today (minus the potential for horrible accidents). It's not normal they way we have to keep our kids underfoot at all times. I want to live in a world where you can let them go to a magic show with their friends.
steph soppanish When we were little, our parents would drop the 3 of us off at the movies for the daytime matinee. This was in the 60’s.
Mama used to take my sister (5 years older than I am) and I to the movie theatre-with my sister holding the popcorn money and he we watched the movie and other entertainment, as they would often have some kind of live shows, magic, dancing or the like. Us kids thought it was great and were sorry to leave.
This video chilled me. When I read the lead-in, I thought it would be some kind of at gone wrong. I had no idea!! The poor, dear things and their parents! Good God!!
@@clobberelladoesntreadcomme9920 I agree. Even back in the 90's kids could run the neighborhoods from noon til supper. Or all day long in the summer time. Now days, parents will get reported to CPS/DCFS or the police, if they aren't withing 3 feet of their children at all time, helicopter parenting their kids.
I've gotten a few dirty looks from other parents when at the park with my 14 year old and my 8 year old, and I sit in my car on hotter days. I still keep my eye on them every few minutes, but my daughter is 14 and of legal age to babysit other people's kids. But parents still give me THE EYE. I think a large part is because my kids are a lot shorter than most kids their age. Maybe people assume my kids are a few years younger than they are. But even so, I don't think the helicopter parenting is very healthy. When and how are children ever supposed to.learn independence or learn how to think on their own? Its sad, really.
Adults trample adults all the time. I don’t know what you think a couple dozen adults could’ve added to this disaster.
And sadly the Hillsborough disaster still happened.
???
And the Iroquois theater (fire regulations), coconut grove fire (now have to have regular doors on either side of a revolving door), and the triangle shirtwaist fire (employer bolted the doors shut), and the station nightclub, and love parade, and any number of crushes during pilgrimage to the Hage....
Humans are very good at crushing each other in a panic. And finding new ways to crush each other in a panic when safety regulations try to prevent it.
I was just thinking that! As well as the tragedy of The Station nightclub fire.
I was just going to say this is like Hillsborough but with Victorian children
Oh I wonder if he'll do Hillsborough. That would be a long one. 30 years of developments will take time. Need to wait for the proceedings to conclude. YNWA.
I'm in the fire alarm / life safety industry, and it is indeed sad that many of the inventions, standards, codes and regulations pertaining to life safety in buildings, aircraft and vessels have come about as a result of tragedies such as this, the Coconut Grove fire, the Triangle Shirtwaist factory fire, the RMS Titanic sinking, and the SS Morro Castle fire, just to name a few.
It's amazing how so many lives are lost not due to unforeseen circumstances, but deliberate acts of shocking disregard for human life.
There are 2 sides to this coin. On one hand, you can't foresee every event, every possibility, every flaw, without it occurring at some point. On the other, it is tragic when it does happen because in hindsight it feels preventable. But it is not always the case. This is not to say that some errors aren't indeed gross, and obvious, and those should be condemned. In this case I would argue why were there so few adults accompanying SO MANY CHILDREN !?! I cant really find fault in the staff, especially if they never hosted such an event with so many children as the audience
Still took years in some places for safety measures like emergency-exit push-bar doors to become mandatory, & even when they were fitted building or business owners often locked them or blocked them with goods!
Some years ago one hot summer's day, playing badminton in the local sports hall, it was decided the fire doors would be opened to increase ventilation. A group of 6 people gathered around the unopened doors NOT OPENING the doors ! "PUSH BAR TO OPEN" it has on the doors and 6 of them failed to open those doors.
@@stevie-ray2020 I kick open locked fire exits. In the case of locked emergency exits in a Wisbech car park, I just phoned the fire brigade on the emergency number. Within 10 mins, they'd turned up ready to cut the chains off.
Of all the sad and tragic events discussed on this channel, this has got to be the saddest. A true freak accident. No one at fault, no one to blame. No greedy companies, no crappy design, no negligence. Just hyped-up, innocent kids who had no idea what could happen.
And a door locked partly closed !
The bolted door is a pretty big part to blame
I’m from Sunderland, it was known back then for its ship yard and mines. Many of the people came from poor working class backgrounds, which is why it made sense that many of the children were really eager to get toys and sweets as normally they could not afford them . The old building is now a museum and there is a small section in one of the parts that talks about the disaster. There is a toy horse displayed which was one of the toys that were handed out to the children.😔😔😔
So they restored the old building after it was bombed? That's nice - even though I understand why some people would be upset at the memory of what happened there, I hate to see old buildings abandoned or torn down.
I was under the impression that the building was demolished after it was bombed by the Germans. Maybe there was a second building built as a museum in the same area? I'll have to look into it more.
Kari .....the building was demolished after it was bombed and there is no trace of it at that spot now .....I think the building referred to is the Sunderland Museum and Art Gallery which is about 150 yards from the site of the Victoria Hall .....
Dr Girlfriend
It is not a museum, the building was totally demolished after severe bomb damage in 1941
Those poor babies. Can’t imagine what those last minutes were like while their lives were being literally squeezed out of them. May they Rest In Peace
Kellie Sonnen dude. no.
@@_sleeplessnights Did the children not stampede to their deaths over free lollies?
@@sonnestrasza2149 Your nonchalant attitude towards this is sad and disappointing.
Sonne Strasza your attitude is lame asf
They really should've thought ahead and threw some junk candy to the poor-kid section to avoid this one. (And yes, I actually edited this for sensitivity reasons..lol)
A while back I was on the floor for a particularly intense concert. Pretty much the whole front of the crowd had become a kind of mosh pit, since the audience was packed and extremely enthusiastic about the performance. It was one of the first big shows I'd ever been to. At one point, there was another girl who had half-fell down, supported upwards by the people around her but with her legs out. I got shoved and fell back onto her legs, and another girl fell onto me from behind, basically folding me in half between the two of them.
It was maybe one of the scariest moments of my life. I started screaming, but the music and crowd was so loud I don't think many people could hear me. I was probably only down for a minute or two but the panic made it feel much longer- I could barely breathe like that, and I already had back problems so it was super painful.
Luckily, before the crowd could surge much more, a different girl nearby noticed my screaming. She shoved the people that were pinning me down out of the way, yelling that someone was trapped and convincing people to help get me up. She got me out and made sure I wasn't hurt. I was able to navigate through the crowd and spent the last song of the set over a trashcan in the corner- a security guard had noticed what happened and followed me over, got me water from the bar and stayed with me until my dad came to pick me up, talking me through my panic attack with stories from his first shows and pits and making sure I didn't pass out or anything.
That girl in the crowd and the security guard were fuckin angels. Hearing stories about crowd crush like this reminds me how lucky I am that people in the music community and such are aware of how dangerous situations like this can be, these days.
Sidenote, but it's also strange how the smallest or weirdest details of events get remembered. A few people had snuck weed into the venue and the whole crowd had reeked of it when I went down. The smell had never bothered me before- where I grew up, it was far from uncommon- but since then, I can't be near it without feeling sick.
What a terrifying experience . I’m glad that you came out of it in one piece ! Thank God there were people who saw what was happening and took action .
When I was in middle school I went to see Black Veil Brides, and after the openers played a stagehand came on stage and announced that BVB would not come out until the crowd backed up. He pointed out how the people in the front were being pinned/crushed and the band wouldn’t play until it was resolved. My mom and I were standing on the balcony (to avoid such crush) and seeing those poor folks in the front made me decide to only attend seated concerts lol.
Oh my god so sorry. That is one of my worst nightmares being crushed/in a mosh pit. My friend pulled a girl up from almost being trampled on as she saw her sort of falling and just grabbed her to keep her upright and helped her out after. To this day, I never go into mosh pits and stay towards the back of the crowd and make sure that we have enough space to evacuate in case if something goes wrong.
Oh man. I'm glad you're physically okay.
I think this is the most horrible and horrifying story--that I've seen--so far on this channel. And the saddest. Having been in a shoulder to shoulder packed crowd once at a convention, I can tell you it is nearly impossible to go against the crowd. It's like a wall. Scary even in a non-life-threatening situation. I can't imagine how awful something like this would be.
November 9, 1989, my husband and I had to lift our 3 children above waist high so they wouldn't be crushed. I was 7 months pregnant. The Berlin wall had just fallen, and we had to take the S-Bahn home cuz our car overheated. I couldn't really be upset...people were so very happy!
see the video about the Who concert that one really got to me
I remember going to football matches in the 1980s (pre-Hillsborough) and when you were leaving at the end of the game in the exit areas there was always something of a crush. Nothing serious, but you could really feel the pressure of other people against your own body. I would think, what if somebody tripped and fell over? It never happened of course but it might have done. It wasn't a major concern but I was always just a little bit relieved to get out.
@@oldermusiclover this one is so much worse
not to dismiss how tragic that event was, but god this might be the saddest story ive ever heard
God is good !!!
I can't even imagine what it must be like, putting on a show with the hopes of making children smile and then realizing your actions indirectly led to their deaths.
Probably not good
Human crushes are damn terrifying. That football incident in the 80s or 90s haunts me ever since I learned about it and saw the footage.
Which one? Havent heard of it
@@danikinzstar hillsborough sheffield and ibrox park glasgow en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillsborough_disaster
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1971_Ibrox_disaster
You mean the Hillsborough disaster
over seas soccer matches are some of the worst I have ever heard of I swear sometimes those people are just NUTS
I'm just finding out about them through these videos. Freaking horrifying.
After this that boy became an engineer so it didnt happen again, amazing how many inventions were due to death
They say safety regulations are written in blood
Considering most improvements are caused by wars, I’m guessing a lot
See a need, fill a need
@@leotoad7991, you watch a hundred disaster videos, you see that phrase a thousand times, you begin to feel like it's a cheap way to sound serious and smart. Not blaming you for being the thousandth and first, but I wish people would say something different and more nuanced and to the point. For example that world is too complicated for predicting every new kind of disaster.
@@seriouscat2231 Username checks out
This took place in my home city, and I always looked at the statue as a child and wondered what it was for. I never understood. As I got older and looked into the story, whenever I walk into mowbray park, I now take a moment to pay respects to the statue and the memory of everyone affected by the crush.
Such a devastating and preventable disaster.
As a child I visited the memorial statue on a school trip, I didn't understand what it was for and asked a teacher. He explained to me roughly what happened, and I was horrified but over time it was a distant memory and I couldn't remember if it was real or not. I clicked on this video completely unsuspecting and found all the details the same as I had vaguely remembered them. What a horrific disaster
I live around the corner from where this happened, my great great grandfather was a sailor from norway who stayed behind to help clear the bodies and that's where he met my great great grandmother. So I guess wouldn't be here if this didn't happen which is a pretty wild thought...
Wow...
Happy you made it here
Death brings about rebirth Mate. Bless to You for being part of the rebirth
My parents met because my dad was a campus cop/student that volunteered extra shifts to help guard the sorority houses (where Mom lived) at FSU after Ted Bundy's attack there. It is super weird to think that tragedies like that (and this disaster) can change lives in a good way too.
My parents met at a McDonald’s...
I never realized how dangerous crowds of people can be until I started watching these videos. There's a list of crush and stampede disasters on Wikipedia, with dates ranging from 66 AD to 2021, and victims numbering one to 10,000. Locations include countries all over the world, indicating that most humans are capable of mindless panic-the fight-or-flight response gone mad.
New entry on that list lately... 💔
@@corvuscorax7451 #Itaewon
The statue used to be in a local cemetery a few miles away, without a case, and almost forgotten about, but it was moved to the park opposite the site of the Victoria Hall, where many of the bodies had been laid out
Can't have been in the cemetry for long !
The man who collapsed into tears having lost his family broke my heart. 💔
Yeah, who woulda thought he would do that
For anyone wondering - I looked it up - a penny in that time would be the same as about £2/3 today.
Thank you for sharing this important piece of information with others here!
How many dollars would $3 be back then?
@@SirTorcharite enough to buy a prostitute and maybe a bottle of rum.
@@noble14 Nice.
That is still cheaper than most shows today.
As soon as you said the door only had a small opening I knew what was coming. Those poor children. Thank you for bringing light to the tragic incident.
I deleted my high-rated comment here, maybe a month ago, because someone was arguing with me about this. I said something akin to "We need to teach children about crowd safety at school." Here we are after Astrofest. I took back my comment because someone seemingly convinced me humanity was inherently evil and there was no use educating people. I don't know, I think my mind has changed once again.
There is capability for good in all of us. We just need to foster it.
The world is shit man. Bad things happen to good people, and sometimes, good things happen to bad people. Life can be gone in the blink of an eye to completely innocent people, even children. Also, don't expect kids to retain information about something boring like crowd safety, and especially don't expect them to even act on it if they do retain it. Whole reason why adult supervision is a thing.
@@SputniksArmy I know but we still teach kids to dial emergency and the alphabet. Some things DO stick with kids. Or teenagers, or even highschool seniors. Just find somewhere to throw this into the curriculum because it's real. I got so much shit from people for suggesting this, and they had similar points to yours, that was "it's not even worth trying to teach" but I respectfully disagree.
As a parent, this story is so scary and I can't imagine the pain the parents felt.
Seriously.. can't imagine leaving a 5 year old on his own.
@@ToolOtaku I can't imagine that either. Leaving a 5 year old alone? You have to be crazy!
It was the 1800 I'm sure they didn't care too much. Lol the empathy felt today is no doubt 1000x times in those who have empathetic tendencies rather than those who don't obviously... But just the opinion I feel may be factual although not going to be able to be proven. It probably wasn't too much a a grievance or stresser to the parents to a child who were there. I could be wrong about them specifically. But not the jist of what I'm sayin u heeeaaarrrrrd
Just another reason to keep your kids close. Even the mundane can be deadly, especially to the tiny humans who haven't developed any self preservation yet
Dont have children and this horrified me to my core just thinking of them dieing because they wanted candy and fuck those magicians for not being fair would have seen to a lynching put them in a fucking vise
And im a pacifist but dang anyone with a drop of common sense should've seen it would cause a problem
Thing I wana know is they all payed the same to get in was it the poor children up stairs
I know in the Iroquois theater fire they had a gate locked to the upstairs where the poor were killing most of them
That's why I stay away from crowds. Even adults can be very dumb.
Adults have, in fact, gotten killed in the same way quite often
@Frizzurd humans are essentially barely out of the jungle, metaphorically speaking, sad to say.
@@TheKyoshiFan Exactly. Our technology is advancing way faster than general society can socially handle it. A human being is a marvel, humankind is a bunch of stupid, destructive apes.
Yes, adults are the same- just look at the Love Parade. It's horrible, it happens way too regularely but it could be so preventable.
All the stories from this channel are horrifying and shocking, but this is the first time I've genuinely cried. I can't even imagine what these little kids were feeling.
Or their parents.
I first thought you were going to say that the gallery collapsed with the weight of children rushing forward to get the prizes, but their weight probably wouldn’t have made that much difference. Poor little kids, most would’ve died horrifying, slow deaths.
“Talking waxworks” sounds horrifying 😂
@@Tiochfaidh lol. That made me chuckle. Thanks for That
It should. I mean, look at the Kardashians.
Conjuring and ghost illusions? Who would want their kids to go to something so demonic? These Fays must be servants for the dark side.
@@Tiochfaidh ppl have the right to do whatever they want w their bodies. who cares? shouldnt really matter if it doesnt impact u in a negative way
I know right? 😝
Why does this remind me of the escalator accident at Expo ‘67 in Montreal? A TV crew was filming in the Soviet Pavilion and sent large coils of electric cord unattended, down the escalator. There was no one to pick it up below, and they didn’t close it off to people. Several people were killed and many more injured. I was 9 years old, there with my father. He saw what was happening and his military training kicked in. I was ordered to stand against a post and not move while he set two men to pulling people off the pile and ran up another escalator to take charge upstairs. When the proper authorities arrived, Dad retrieved me at the pole and we went back to our motel.
Wow that's an amazing story. I am glad you and your father were able to make it out of there unscathed. Is there any documentaries about that incident that you know of?
What did people die from? Your story is not clear. Was this energized, uninsulated live high voltage wire or something?
@@Syclone0044 Probably big hay bale sized coils that crushed people.
@@mondenkindqueen nobody would 'throw it down' when they can just let the escalator haul the whole thing. Large bundles of cord on set don't have a shock risk, there's a good deal of warning people off to avoid having them kicked about or fouled up. I can't find a single peep anywhere that this actually happened and my mate's been in the business and hasn't heard of it either. Big canandian coverup?
Cotton Candie actually a simple google search shows there have been lots of escalator accidents there.
I think the cords were put on the escalator thinking they would ride down it and fall off at the bottom, but they piled up there and people got on behind them, not knowing when they reached the bottom there was no way out and the thing kept moving, bringing more people before they could climb over.
I was caught in a crowd many years ago. It was terrifying: we were attending an outdoor parade. The sidewalk passage became quite narrow with everyone crowding to see the event. Several people stopped on the sidewalk, probably to view the parade. Everyone was suddenly packed tightly together between the storefronts and the street, which had many already in place. Nowhere to go, the crowd began pushing and my sister and I were physically lifted and moved as the crowd pushed in several directions. At one moment I was pressed tightly against a plate glass storefront & could hear the groan of the frame just before it shattered, raining glass down on us. Neither of us were injured, but one man wasn't as fortunate, sustaining cuts on his head and face. The crowd scattered and help arrived for the victim who was quickly taken to hospital.
I know someone that happened to, at a train station in India. She was carried all the way out into the street. And she didn't have a camera anymore.
God this is so terrifying. Those poor children and their families. RIP.
Crowd crushes (plus mosh pits), fires and drowing are personally my nightmares. Always keep back and give yourself enough space to evacuate/check for exits.
I hardly cry over these horror stories, but this one just broke me. Kids were just there to have some fun and it quickly turned deadly, i couldnt imagine the horrible death the poor kids suffered
Same here. I listen to and read a lot of things like this and rarely get emotional about but it's very hard not to cry about this incident. It's just total horror.
I like how in his videos, even though the tragedies were horrible, he gives a bit of a silver lining to them by stating the positive results that came from it. Makes tragedies a little more meaningful.
Those poor babies. :( They didn’t know any better. They were so innocent. ❤️ I can’t imagine the overwhelming heartbreak and self-blame those parents went through for the rest of their lives.
I hope the caretaker who saved those poor soles was suitably recognised for his gallantry
I suspect that he was the one who bolted the doors.
@@andredeketeleastutecomplex The issue was so far beyond the door though. 20 inches open..? If the kids had been walking normally, all would’ve been well. It was the overpacking of the venue and the lack of adults that caused it I would say
I used to live in Sunderland, it’s always so sad when I used to see the statue in Mowbray Park. I had to explain why it was there to my partner and he cried. It’s so tragic.
Who the hell would vandalize it? That's why I support abortion, some people are shit
Matt Logue The windows around it have been smashed multiple times and it’s had graffiti on it.
@@gulagbean289 wtf is wrong with ppl?
I've lived in the area my whole life and never knew this happend
@@mattlogue1300 i'm totally gonna start using "that's why I support abortion, some people are shit" more often
Had no idea this happened during Queen Victoria rein. I'm thankful she was able to provide the funds for proper burials.
Just devastating..
The invention of the release door came from grief and loss. Had no idea it was so personal.
You are correct about lives saved. Thanks for sharing..
The person who bolted the door like that must’ve lived with such enormous guilt
I feel for the person who drew those photos for the original documentation
I was thinking that same thing
it's really disheartening when you think about how cameras weren't affordable back then, so pretty much all major events were drawn, which would've taken hours. I can't imagine having to sit there and draw children accidentally crushing each other for the local newspaper
@@jabby6709 right? Disheartening 😔
@Jessica wow!
FYI the artist was also probably one of the first adults on the seen
Who helped remove the victims
So incredibly sad 😞 The Queen handled this as a true Queen should. Also knowing that a new type of door was invented as a direct result shows the good side of humanity, all coming together after a horrible tragedy and doing their best to make sure this loss was not completely in vain ❤️
Funny that back then they considered the building unsightly. nowadays it would be considered a fine example of Gothic architecture. Also, kudos to the young kid who was so mover by this tragedy that he later became an engineer and developed the emergency push bar door. He is in many regards a hero for all the lives his invention went on to save.
When I heard "children" I already knew this one was going to be tragic
It’s so sad when people die but it just hits different when it’s a child!!! You wouldn’t catch me going back there after all those babies were killed in there!😓😓😓
Fantastic video and great research!! I went through my whole life just assuming that the horizontal bars on doors were just regular locks. I never knew that those were crash bars, and the inventor was a survivor of such a horrific case of human crush as a child.
Just the term “human crush” fills me with dread. Hillsborough human crush disaster, The Who concert disaster, and The Station nightclub fire come to mind... all horrific incidents.
And 9/11 - where the Port Authority received an exception to the New York City building code that all stairwells are to be made of concrete. For some reason, the city and the Port Authority both thought that for the tallest buildings in NY at the time - did not need concrete stairwells. Many died there...
Iroquois theater fire
Bethnal Green tube station, during World War Two.
Stephanie Logan what was the name of the nightclub fire in Brazil I think ? Horrific. People rushed into the toilets and were trapped by all the people rushing in after them.
Now I'm gunna cry everytime I see one of those 😭😭😭
"And before long, I passed over others without emotion".
I’m assuming a form will of shock took over.
I work as an Event Manager in a theatre hall just like this. Whenever we have students come for field trips I am constantly having to get after children for running chaotically through the venue. I know I seem like a kill joy to them, but they don't understand how quickly crowded situations can become unsafe. Crowd management isn't just about organization, it's about safety.
I wonder if you might do the Hartford circus fire of 1944 - my dad was there and survived it, but it was a horrific experience.
My aunt suffered lifelong crippling claustrophobia because of that fire. And my mother didn't go because it was her birthday and she had a party at home instead.
Your dad? He must be quite old
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I live in Sunderland and that statue has had to be moved several times because of people who can’t leave things alone, when I was little it was in the cemetery and I remember my nana trying to explain what it was for without giving me nightmares. There’s a few little reminders of this around Sunderland
Out of curiosity: is that area notably haunted?
@@xpan195 no, because ghosts aren't real
The itaewon crush brought me here. This is so tragic.
I just called it the Korean Halloween crush caush that's what my friend told me
being from the US i had never heard of this before. it is so heartbreaking.
To be honest I'm from the UK and never heard of this either. :/
Can we take a moment to show respect to the queen for paying for the funeral services
No.
Not like she's hurting for cash but it was a decent thing to do
@E. It's ok, monarchy was substituted by a bunch of politicians who now stole our money on our behalf and tell us we are spoiled for demanding things such as free education. Their salaries need to be paid!
No
Can we take a moment to appreciate she used her powers of exclusive legal right to decide who in her family could be married to play matchmaker and ultimately the products of that ended up becoming the heads of states on both sides that started WW1 killing millions
I can’t help but recall an incident in my youth when I was at camp. The adults were telling ghost stories and the gym teacher came running out of the woods with a flashlight.
I was near the back and was not at all surprised by his appearance as I had noticed him walk in that general direction. The other kids though stampeded wildly. Even though I never got up I was trampled on and my right hand severely cut.
To this day I am mindful of all exits and develop exit strategies.
I've kicked locked fire exits open and called fire brigade on other emergency exit gates that were locked.
So next time you're in the supermarket and passing a fire exit....
My heart breaks for those poor children and their parents. I had no idea there was such a thing as traveling shows geared exclusively toward children back in the 1800’s. It’s strange that the whole town allowed their young children to go to a show completely unsupervised.
Thanks for telling this story FH, yet another I've never heard before.
So sad to have lost 183 young lives and what a tragedy for the poor parents.
I knew those push bars had a tragic beginning, as most safety equipment does, but I had no idea it was so devastatingly tragic..
"...to protect it from vandals." What kind of ...creature would vandalize such a thing?!
Kids now days you would tell them what happened and why the statue is there and they would laugh the internet age has made children numb and heartless
The same creatures that have always vandalised stuff, poorly raised scumbags.
A human
There have always been, and will always be, people of poor moral fiber who see only things to destroy. Man is at once the greatest and most terrible of God's creations.
😡 I don’t care WTH is going on socially, economically, or if it’s the apocalypse going on.
I would NEVER deface or deliberately damage a memorial. Much less a memorial for children!!!
You always present these tragedies with sensitivity and insight, which is a great credit to you. Humans have a curiosity about death and tragedy which is understandable; and while you address these things you always remind us that this was someone’s child,someone’ brother,sister, mother or father.And in that way they are no longer victims Of a bizarre footnote in history; they are all remembered as people who where loved.
I hate crowds. I always get super anxious when there's even so much as a small crowd around me, let alone big crowds.
I love your videos so much, such a haunting story told so well with great detail. Glad to have found you!
Thank you. Glad you found me too!
Same here Ashleigh, im really impressed by this guy's sensitive treatment of his subject matter. It's bloody good journalism.
Those poor children and their families! 😭😭😭💔💔💔
Thank you Robert Alexander Briggs for the crash bar. Such a tragic story, well narrated and well put together. Great work. 👍👍👍
Absolutely horrific. I’d never heard about this before. The Hillsborough disaster in Sheffield has always been close to my heart as a Liverpool fan, I remember it so well. Can’t imagine the horror for those parents, thinking your kids are safe at a magic show.
We complain so much about Health & Safety rules but these disasters are a blunt reminder why they’re so important.
I've been binge watching your videos for a few days now, and I have to say, this was easily the most distressing one. The fact that these were all children who didn't know any better, most of them under 10 years old... it's just so disturbing. I don't think I'll be able to look at crash bars the same way again
As soon as its said none of the prizes were reaching the upper 2 floors, I immediatly started thinking, "Oh, no. No! No,no,no,no,no!"
And it was worse than I could have imagined.
It's sad that the city had to place the statue in a glass case to stop vandels from damaging it, It seems nothing is outofbounds from being defiled.
Those illustrations of the children were absolutely gut-wrenching. Poor things. 😟😢😓
As an architect, I often bemoan egress code requirements and their limitations on design. It’s stories like this however that gravely remind me of the terrible importance of being responsible for the ‘health, safety, and welfare of the public’. Well done, sir. RIP, little ones.
"They were without adult supervision - and they were young" 💔
You are applying 21st century mentality with nineteenth century actions. A totally different dynamic.
Unfortunately
@@pyewackett5 ...I'm literally just quoting the narrator but okay
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Notice the word unfortunately.
@@pyewackett5 ...that doesn't make your comment make any more sense, unfortunately 😂
Hate to sound cliche but those were the times. Absolutely nuts nowadays.
Doors have killed so many people it is sickening.
We should use hanging beads!
@@skaetur1 I agree with this, hanging beads _are_ much cooler and aesthetically pleasing than doors
Not nearly as many as floors, but more than windows.
And made a Lot of Great Music let's not forget....
BAN ALL DOORS
God bless Frederick Graham and the other adults that arrived on the scene, though the loss was still huge, I can't imagine the larger number of children who would have passed had they not worked desperately to get the kids to safety.
You’d think that this kind of lack of spatial awareness is only in children, but there are several cases of adults mindlessly crushing people to death too
This isn't mindlessness or lack of spatial awareness. It's crowd behavior. Crushes have happened in other situations, with adults.
The Memorial is shockingly, heart breaking. May they All R.I.P 🙏🏽😔
I've been interested in historic disasters for over half my life, and tbh this is one of the most horrific I can think of. Partially because ALL of the victims were children, partially because it was an event meant to be fun and magical, but mostly because there was no external factor such as a fire, flood, or storm that caused all the deaths. Just human error. The children literally killed one another. The death of every child in that disaster was directly caused by another child (albeit unintentionally - I'm certainly not blaming them!). I can't imagine the guilt that the survivors must have felt. It makes me shudder. Just horrifying.
Around 9:00 he stays quiet to pay respects. Thats a awesome and respectful man.
Thank you for using pictures of the actual disaster, and not using stock photos. Very good narration and to the point.