Sexual Revolutions: Rome Vs America
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- Are old-school traditional roles and morals about sex bad for society and especially women? That seems to be the claim. One of the main thrusts of modern feminism is the justification for the sexual revolution. But we are going to review another claim being made about a different sexual revolution that took place well over 1000 years ago.
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It was so annoying for my fiancée and I to explain to everyone that we do not live together and the amount of people that think we are crazy for waiting till we are married to move in. It helps motivate us to get married because we want to be together but we want to do things right. We want kids but after we are married and have a life together
Praise God that yall are honoring him!!
@@N81999 yes without God none of this would be possible! We keep him at the center of our relationship and our lives.
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I am getting married in August and it has been the same thing for my fiancée and I. We’re 2000 miles apart right now so living together would be kinda hard anyways. Lol But so many people ask why we’re getting married before we’ve lived together or slept together. It’s exhausting getting mocked for respecting your S/O and wanting to wait until marriage. But it’s so worth it and no one is going to shame me into disrespecting the Bible and my soon to be wife.
@@SeniorSpatula agreed! What’s so strange is that I know so many people who live together for years and years without getting married. I think that is so embarrassing. I will be praying for you and your upcoming wedding! I am getting married in 10 days and I’m so pumped! Congratulations
J.D. Unwin wrote a book entitled, "Sex and Culture" that explains how sexual values influenced cultures throughout history. He started researching the topic because he was a fan of Freud and wanted to prove Freud's hypothesis that society needs total sexual liberation in krder to function in the best way possible. However, as he looks into how the sexual morals and traditions changed within historical societies, he instead finds that the most monogamous cultures are thebmost productive and successful and that as monogamy becomes lost in a society, the society plummets. Its an awesome book if you're a nerd like me, haha!!
Added to my reading list
Yes! Very obscure book. A dry read, but its super informative. Especially for history nerd like us.
Thanks for the book recommendation definitely going to read this one! Added it to my Goodreads list
So I had a baby out of wedlock at 19 and shortly after came to Christ. A couple of years later I found my husband and we were both really really desiring to wait till marriage so we decided it would be best if we had a shorter engagement. People thought we were CRAZY that we only wanted to be engaged for 5 months. (Yes I’m aware it’s difficult to plan a wedding in that amount of time haha). But we then ended up being able to be together for the first time on our wedding night!!! :) it was such a redemptive experience for me and we were both so blessed for waiting.
Even if you have failed in this way before doesn’t mean God can’t redeem it. Please don’t believe the lie that you are just damaged goods, because if you turn to Christ and put your faith in Him then you have your identity in Him. Yes, it won’t be the same if you would’ve completely abstained, but it can still be very special and it’s so worth it.
Thanks Nick for this awesome discussion!!! I’m so thankful my marriage has been built on the Lord ♥️
The deconstruction of a monogamous relationship between a man and a woman under God is so so evil and creates more unnecessary pain and suffering in the long haul.
What a wonderful and inspiring story. I hope many will read your comment and be blessed. God bless you and your husband.
Praise God
No offense, but did your faith in Christ repair your hymen? If I do everything right, why should another man get the sex and I get child rearing? I'd rather die alone. This is a raw deal, and no amount of manipulation will convince young men it's worth it to bother with a single mother.
I'd rather be tortured than marry a single mother.
You are damaged, and somehow you convinced this man the mileage wasn't a big deal. Well, all that's well ends well I suppose. Here's hoping you are serious about Christ.
Side note, if consent is so important, why can't someone consent to working for less than minimum wage?
You already can. It's juſt not beneficial to ſociety.
Because that would be dumb? (meaning WORKING for less than minimum wage, not focusing on self or family).
@igiem368 There are two situations where one would be willing to work for less than minimum wage and still be focusing on their own self-interest.
1. The youth with zero job experience.
2. A person of any age that is trying to get into the field of their choice that they have little to no experience in.
Removing the freedom to chose your own wage removes the bottom rungs of the job ladder for people that do not have the resources to jump onto the middle of the ladder.
It also suppresses the upper end of earning. @@GeoFry3
@@princekrazieit is beneficial to society, and you can’t in that it’s illegal.
Tradition is not wrong. It may be wrong to insist that everyone conform 100% to ones perception of the roles, but at the end of the day Men are Men and Women are Women, and on average, they are good at, and will prefer different things. To deny that is what is truly sexist. Let the individual decide, and when you do it will inevitably lead to statistically different outcomes for men and women- and that's ok.
The state of the West disagrees with you. It takes a certain type of person for that to work. Otherwise family units disintegrate.
People who value tradition will exist through time. People who dont will die as individuals or be morphed in to something else.
What are you thinking about?
Oh, you know, the rise and fall of the Roman Empire. You?
Same.
Oh Dear Heaven please help the children within this twisted downward spiral!!
Those who dont learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
Unfortunately we are like the dogs that return to their own vomit.
Its not the blazing of trails. It is the searching of the sealed tombs of history and letting out ancient evils that had been imprisoned there.
Pandoras box
All those traps and barriers were for a reason.
The continued excavation of Pompeii even after discovering the overwhelming artifacts of the sexual deviant in abundance is brought to mind. Why dig up something that was best left buried?
Hmm that’s a very cool take on the trope. Often the character that explores forbidden depths or opens what they shouldn’t does so against the wishes of the locals. So the trope represents the consequences of defying tradition
I just returned from two weeks in Rome. I teach animal training and two students brought to work with them in Rome with their birds. Of course i got to to a little sight seeing while there. I immediately noticed there were a lot more attractive women walking around. The main reason was a lack of overweight people in Rome. It is not that the women were prettier. They were just more physically fit, thus far more of them were significantly more attractive, noticeably so. When I returned to the USA I noticed in the airport going through passport customs lines a noticeable lack of fit women. It was a glaring difference that I have continued to observe in the days since. The typical lefty overweight blue haired run down looking women were just very uncommon in the area I was in.
I was just in Italy for a few weeks and I could always tell who the Americans were. Not only were they heavy or out of shape, they were also dressed like porn workers. Whereas the Italians (and most other cultures) were stylish and fit, dressed in attractive yet modest garb.
The women of high status slept with Gladiators.
The movie from the late 70s Caligula comes to mind when I think about the moral decay in America now. Also another time period mini series on cable tv called Spartacus touched on the sexual slavery trade, and the spoils of war.
Women and children are so vilified these days that it is very disheartening.
Dang, you guys really need to get Doug Wilson on the show. I think that conversation would be very interesting.
No... they need Peter Rambo or Hondo Solomon, especially when it comes to the aspect of biblical marriages
I read an article once that explained the chemical release of sexual stimulation in the 🧠...also the article read that these chemicals would be damaging to a brain chemistry of a person not yet beyond puberty.
I loved the HBO show Rome, not because of its historical accuracy (spoiler alert - it wasn't accurate) but the story of the friendship between Lucius Vorenus and Titus Pullo made that show awesome.
Pullo...Actor Ray Stevenson ...was a magnificent portrayal. RIP
Andrew Tate I’m pretty damn sure won’t be popular for long because one of the things I’ve learned in life is that when you have people who are so high in their ivory tower and so far up their own ass and they don’t practice what they preach they will fall, and they will fall hard Again, part of the reason Andrew Tate and the Tate brothers are so popular is because young men do not have good role models or masculine role models. The only masculine role models I can think of in reality is Jordan Peterson and that would be Nick Fretes I’m sorry if I miss pronounce your name, nick Van Bobby Schuller, along with who is the actor who plays Deadpool that’s basically all I got, but yeah win you’re in a situation like this when you’re looking for good role models, Andrew Tate is the young Roman soldier who is full of himself, while Jordan Peterson is the elder, and you got Nick, who I would say, is a confident and sympathetic Roman politician, toying with the idea of Christianity. I say that because Nick is one of the few people who is in a political position that has inspired me to get my ass out of bed and do some thing I don’t agree with all of his policies, but she is a huge upgrade to the status quo, which is people in power who are not exactly aware of the problems of your average American citizen he’s old enough to have years on them and he’s young enough to actually be living through the problems that are plaguing young men such as Gen X, millennials, and Genzie that’s not me just sucking up to him that’s me telling him the truth at least how I see it
tate are becoming irrelevant, don't worry
I loved this and was spiritually Inspired by it. Thank you all for your work getting such truth out.
I must however point out some OTHER facts about the fall or Rome. It was in Three parts and the first was the fall or the Old gods and the creation of the Romen State, bring in the New Gods. Then the fall of those Gods and the Fall of the Romen Empire. Bring in God and the Holly Romen Empire and,,,, Here you Lost the Plot as many do. In every instant it was the Partition class slipping its secular collars by infiltrating and corrupting the Church, thus removing the Foundation of Morals and Ethics that bound them. The Church was NOT just along for the ride or sitting passively in the Vadakin on their hands. They were every bit the participants. The Church has been fractured attacked had Civil war and even was held hostage till it adopted reforms that would Finely remove its ability to wage war on those it deemed heretics. That foundation has time and again proven the adage that Institutions don't have your best interests at heart. We don't even know how many people's blood are on the hands of secular organizations but it puts the nazis to shame. This Fact is why people left the church in waves time and again or formed Other Churches to get away from the corruption in Rome. This Truth Must be recognized and acknowledged before it can be avoided again. Today's church is once again heading down that path but now it's been corrupted by a global Syndicate (Or Cubal if you will) of powerful business groups under WEF and CCP influence. Another way Must be found that curtails the overpowering of Secular reach and puts that in the hands of Communities and Ultimately Family. Wouldn't it be great if I had Proof,,, :) Judaism is based off Family first then Community with the Secular deriving its power from that. It's also LOT older than Rome and has been chugging along through all the turmoil and war. Yes it has perhaps had a few hiccups (Not fully versed in their full history) but compared to ANY of the alternatives they are relatively Bloodless and Schism free. Learning from that Is Vital to stop the next Dark ages from simply being an interlude to more of the same. Making Family the Bedrock of belief, Morals and Ethics with Community and its attending secular subgroup supporting those values. IMO
Still and all, God is not the one to blame for any of Humanities failures, we do just fine on that score without help from on high. Thus, it behooves us to remember anything touched by the hand GOD is perfection, The Church was built by Man. As such it is subject to the Imperfection of our own choosing. Want to do God proud, Do Better. Want to do that, learn from your mistakes today to be better tomorrow. Its ok to criticize the Church, it's NOT God, no matter how much They try to tell you it is.
Bless and be well and I pray for America and hope we can find our way through this murky time. 🙏
Modern Judaism was formed in the 300's AD. It was a reaction to Christianity.
Like the fine line between archeology and grave robbing, timing is importing but “new” shouldn’t go back more than like 100 years
The more a society separates individuals from depending on their neighbors for their livelihoods, the less society has the external inputs that support shame and pride. This removes the appreciation and valuing of integrity. Such a society will immensely begin to degrade. Anything sexually questionable will start to become acceptable, accelerating the degeneracy and decay of the society. We are seeing the same occur today.
Excellent conversation about one of, if not the most fundamentally important topics. You can extract any mention of Christianity from the this conversation, and the way these 3, (no pun intended), fleshed out the reasons for reserving sex to the sanctity traditional western monogamous marriage just makes plain sense. If every pastor and priest had courage and eloquence to articulate as well as these hosts, Christianity could defend itself better against the more degenerate elements of contemporary culture, which, unfortunately, have been dominate for most of my life. Thank you for this.
Wasn’t it Lincoln who said America would never fall from without, but would from within if it ever did. Will America fall like Rome?
We’re working on it.
I just got back from a trip to Rome. There were some really interesting things that were very different then the US culturally.
1) The locals all seemed really, genuinely happy. Everyone was so friendly. Im just going to put it straight but all the pick pockets, scammers, etc were all foreigners.
2) The men and women were a lot more traditional (the men look and act like men, the women look and act like women).
3) The billboards and advertising / TV was a whole lot cleaner.
4) Yet sexual promiscuity was definitely rampant and more hidden. Artwork on the street (local artists) were borderline pornographic. Corner shops had materials that were pornographic in nature for sale. Drug stores sold sex toys on end caps. None of that stuff would fly in the US
I'm not going to say it was better culturally. It wasn't. It was more hidden and prideful was my perception.
Did they still gave the "box sitters" on the sidewalks in the evening in Rome? Lol....I stayed 6 weeks in Rome in the Hotel Corseti in EUR & walked to the metro every day to go wander around Rome. Every morning there was a prostitute standing on the corner I walked by every morning. It was a great experience
My experience in Rome was that the men seemed easy going, but the Italian women were fierce creatures to behold. Let's just say I gave Italian women a very wide berth. Yikes!
The food was incredible and so very different from the U.S.
@@deborahklinkner1730 I'm not sure actually not where we stayed. My wife did the research and crime is higher around the metro so we didn't go over to that area. We took a cab from the airport to trevi fountain area, so I might have missed the red light district 😂
@@marasegal1849 Interesting take! I didn't experience that much but it was my anniversary trip so I wasn't spending too much time focusing on any woman but my wife 😂. That was true of an Italian girl I dated when I was younger but sample size of one lol 🤣
Keep up the good work, God bless your family and friends
Pre-watching comment, I highly recommend the book Roman Wives, Roman Widows: The Appearance of New Women and the Pauline Communities by Bruce W. Winter. I haven't even finished it (it's one of about 10 books I'm currently reading), but it was striking how many similarities there were between many of the 1st century Roman women and many of today's women.
Hedonistic behaviour is addictive. It gives those quick fix dopamine kicks which makes people feel as if they are happy for a short time period but, inevitably, is destructive to society in the long term. And the hedonistic behaviour needs to become more and more extreme to get those dopamine kicks. Looking back on history, this seems to have always created the final downfall of an empire.
I feel that we should just let mother nature take it's course with natural selection. Just let it all collapse.🤷♀️
Every fallen empire is followed by centuries of slavery. It's not anything pleasant, specially if you are a woman.
Judges 17:6 Everyone did what was right in their own eyes. Judges took place Pre the Roman Empire between 1383 BC and 1052BC. Roman Empire was 27BC to 476CE...
It's good you guys are discussing this. Andrew tate is identifying problems correctly but proposing poor solutions. It's good to hear viewpoints that actually solve problems.
Absolutely fascinating discussion! I definitely will watch your content regularly now. I was hooked from the jump
Thanks for what you do bro! Keep rockin strong lol
No, the republic fell because of the Marian Reforms, specifically the military. This led to career military men becoming extremely popular with the army. After this, you are left with non-temporary dictators, Gaius Marius, Sulla, Caesar, Augustus. The moral decline didn’t help, but it was not the main catalyst
A morally strong society is more capable of controlling corruption. Corruption is just moral degradation, and causes all forms of societal declines. It is a cancer that destroys the fabric of society. When you have Romans 1 (KJV) people ruling over a society, the end is near. The economic and justice systems fail to produce prosperity, leaving people bankrupt both financially and morally. Crime increases and poverty persists.
Those for license always reveal themselves.
Nature was finding a mechanisms to self correct from unnatural behavior, or at least socially dysfunctional behavior. The idea of entire of morals comes from the premise do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Society needed a mechanism to reestablish this premise.
Tomorrow is national Five Guys Burgers...is it illegal to fit 9 people into 1 hotel room???
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It’s so sickening that this is something we must be aware of today. Great work gents and ma’am but it’s still stomach turning.
I grew up in a Christian home. When they started to legalize gay marriage my mom said this is exactly what would happen
I personally don’t believe in Christianity and am atheist, but completely agree with all morals taught by Christianity and live by those teachings
Why didn't The Good Hamilton get an intro?
Luther = OG of “My Truthism”
My Truth then became No Truth today.
How so?
@@ArmoredAlgebra look at the situation in the world today objectively. Luther wasn't wrong to protest shenanigans in the church, he was wrong to leave, to throw out books in the bible, and create his own religion i.e. "my truth." Protestantism leads to fractionation, leads to indifference, leads to nihilism which ends in the will-to-power we see today.
@@TheGringoSalado Literally, that is all conjecture. Luther did not “reform” the Bible, his belief wasn’t his own religion, and I don’t even like Martin Luther. His views of the Jewish people are despicable. But all of that is totally debatable at best, refutable in probability.
Also, isn’t church history big to Catholics? How does the reformation have any real difference than the Catholic Church changing its beliefs often by the hands of men?
I don’t have a denomination, so I don’t even care. I only care about the canonized Bible and I believe Revelation ends all revelation and prophecy from 90 AD to date.
But promoting the idea that we translate the Bible into common languages for all to read was objectively a good thing.
@@ArmoredAlgebra you bring up many good points. I would say that answer lies in considering the cannon and who determined which books did and did not made it. Also, anyone who takes the Faith seriously must wrestle with Dostoevsky’s “Grand Inquisitor.”
Romans 1 KJV says it all. Even affirming OT law.
I find it confusing how nothing was said about other religions that are aiming to fill the void and the effects of them.
The religions that echo deeply through Western thought are Judaism, Christianity, Atheism, and Paganism. The others have not had much of an impact, largely because they have been unable to attract many buyers in the Western marketplace of ideas. That’s why some religious groups have been migrating to propagate their ideas over the past though decades - they have been unable to convince current Western populations of the value of their ideologies.
Many of those other ideologies that are less known tend to agree with the main “tenets” of the religions around them. Like Buddhism and Shinto, strongly agree and can coexist semi peacefully in modern society.
If you notice many of the religions are a do or die, conversion at the end of a sword instead of personal choice to walk away peacefully.
So accurate @khutchinsoncpa1
I'm not saying that i condone sex just for pleasure, but on the topic of rape in the animal kingdom, the thing that wasn't mentioned and is important, is that animals have sex for reproduction purposes only (except a very few other species) while humans have sex not just for reproduction but also for pleasure and intimacy
Come on guys, almost 300 watching, and only 70 👍
No one on this panel would agree to be a slave under the law from the Old Testament for slaves gathered from the non Hebrew foreign people around them.
The reason these woman divorce so quickly is because she wasn't a virgin on her wedding day... and she's destroyed her ability to pair bond.
I think throwing a wholesome family with two gay dads in with people who sexually abuse kids and animals is going to be a hard sell to the center right
You forget that Monkeypox is growing among that very dynamic and false lie of wholesome gay dads who infect their family pets and adopted children, most of whom are boys. I wonder why?
The exceptions are not the norm.
How can you classify a family of two gay dads as wholesome?
a real wholesome family doesn't buy same sex children from adoption agencies to molest.
Lol center right ? No one is center right if they are ok with 2 gay dads
The Tates weren’t a good example for this message. Both brothers repeatedly stand by raising their sons as they were raised. Broke and struggling for their meals. In hopes they surpass themselves and don’t become spoilt losers. Also their brotherhood will be a shining example to stick together. If anything it would be their daughters who may plot and scheme for the wealth…
8:40 "hypocrisy is the compliment vice pays to virtue. " . . . ehhh. . . see what i did there. . . ehhh?
The mass adaptation of "transactional" sex an updated "value" was not until after the me too movement. Weinstein was abusing women prior to the overall adoption, when sex was propotated to be sacred. Additionally, I'd argure that men asserted that sex was transactional and women began to fall in line in hopes of gaining a mate whether he be good, bad or otherwise.
At 1:33, I think it will all go down a lot sooner than a 100 hundred years.
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As a note, the idea that Rome was invulnerable is not exactly true. Even under Augustus, Rome suffered defeats. Teutoborg Forest happened during Pax Romana. Prior to that, the Romans were defeated by the Parthians, and Julius, before his assassination, was about to head in that direction to fight them head on. It’s a wonder what would’ve happened had he met them in open battle. But yeah, the Romans did “fall” because of outside invaders, and in our case, I’m not sure if that same fate would happen. I think we’ll probably splinter into different factions and they will vie for power, as the rest of the world adjusts to a multipolar system of power.
Polygamy is around today, men just call them ex wives.
As well as polyamory
Funny you speak of Rome. I have found myself a lot lately looking to ancient times and thinking a lot stronger men and women once ruled and fell apart
I could be wrong but from what I understand a majority of people in the Roman empire were slaves, it was just an entirely different system of slavery than what would come to mind for most americans
Certain high status women in Rome would take successful gladiators to their beds. But that wasn’t many.
The similarities are fascinating.
🤔
And depressing.
Rome crashed because people had finally had enough of their bidenisms 😂😂😂😂
You mean Jocus Bidenus?
Simply put tolerance became acceptance with caveat, acceptance became antipathy, antipathy became societal abdication to the responsibility of maintain what is tolerated. How did this begin? Well in the 50s, 60s, and 70s our grandparents decided that a 40/5 work week could be "extended" to a 48/6 and in those days, alot could use the extra pay, 3 kids arent cheap. Then MOM decided she needed part-time work for things like braces and cheerleading. So she went into home sales while dad got off his semi and into a chopper (better pay) meanwhile no one was watching or teaching their kids the right ways, dad was in okinawa lifting glass for a new highrise and mom just got called in, a big fish with a fat commission just walked in asking for her personally! (Never bought the house). While a growing contingent of deviants became surrogates in schools, as nannies, as older friends not ready for the burden of teaching others (or any burden). Then when their daughter failed to keep her kids safe, now grandma "did what needed doin" still working a now full time real estate sales rep and grandpa...... he was flying in the movies making BANK (which he never saw, but thats showbiz kids). Now of their 7 grandkids 3 turned out right and only 4 of them really knew them growing up. So it was sloth, pride, and greed that made the USA citizens a pack of sexual deviants, but would we still be in power on the world stage if they didnt do it?
Maybe it needs to be Rome Vs Nordic Paganism Vs Israeli Judaism Vs American Christianity
American Christianity? How about JUST Christianity?
@TheConstitutionalOathkeeper , you are Correct. Unfortunately, it's the American " Version ", that is Driving the Narrative of
" Prophecies " in the World, which may or may not, be rooted in The Truth...
I joined the national guard about 5 months ago when I was a 17 year old high school junior I want to try out for the 19th sf group when I turn 20 before running for a few county elections, nick Freitas is an excellent example of what every man should strive to be like. (Kinda random but the national guard is 140 years older than the usa.)
Enlightening conversation
We ran into some audio problems with the latest episode. Don't worry, it's going to still go out!
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Gettin lost in the comments man need to pin this
Right is wrong. Its biblical.
Please pass the Millstone
Nowhere does the bible say that you couldn't have more than one wife. And the god of the bible never said anything against it.
Jesus said marriage as God intended is one man and one woman. Read the new testament. Multiple wives was a disorder of the original design and intention of God's creation of marriage
@@Hunter-2689can't prove that from the book....
@@jamespimental6919 from the bible? Let me find the verse...
And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,
5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?
6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.
7 They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away?
8 He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so.
9 And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.
@@jamespimental6919 the twain shall be one flesh. One man, one woman. This was the original design . Adding multiple wives was a later thing that wasn't the original design. It was 2 united to become one, not 3 or 4.
Ancient Rome before christianity In sexuality very innovative.. etero Gay bi ...🇮🇹
He’s mixing up Julius Caesar with Augustus Caesar. Yes Julius Caesar was a bit of a sexual libertine. Augustus Caesar was not. I want to see his source. Are they using “lives of the Caesars” by Suetonius??? This is first time Augustus was considered a relative prude at the time.
The Harkkonnens were based on the Roman empire.
I am not an absolutionist when discussing any sin... which in archery means missing the mark... if one misses the mark and cheats in a marriage or steals, whatever... I do not believe saying 100 hail Mary's and dismal of it by another makes one absolved of one's sin. I do not believe saying sorry every time one keeps making the same mistake... or missing the is mark... absolves an individual. Saying sorry for the same bad behavior over and over is not being sorry. This allows for making up excuses for one's continued behavior of poor, disrespectful choices... the devil made me do it, she doesn't give me enough attention, he doesn't, God hates me... blah, blah, blah, blah. I believe true absolution is to choose to stop the behaviors altogether and not have to say you're sorry for disrespecting another, yourself, and God. Accountability for one's choices and acceptance of consequences that always
follow in one form or another is what absolution actually means.
Two wrongs never make a right. Abusing another without provocation, causation, in any manner is bad; sexually abusing another for one's own self-service is beyond abhorrent. It seems the metamorphosis of human behaviors from biblical times to current times has not changed much at all. The struggle to invoke our higher angels will always be no matter. I have always analyzed and reanalyzed the words from the Lord's Prayer:
Our father, who art in Heaven, hallowed be thy name, thy kingdom come thy will be done on Earth AS it is in Heaven.
I have thought about these words over and over and have come to realize the meaning as I understand it and as I realized the power of them, the simplicity of them, and the difficulty of them... I realized there are those who never will, and metamorphosis will be a constant dance of two steps forward and two steps back.
I really wish people would read Simone de Beauvoir, she isnt the saint modern fememism makes her out to be.
This comments section though. It’s why I agree with and understand the doctrine of total depravity.
I only disagree that we are the only species with a soul. Otherwise, beautiful podcast. Makes me regret my younger decisions.
So the Romans had a two-tiered justice system, too.🔴⚪🔵
Postscript: Another episode hit ‘outta the park! You are all so interesting.🤍
Nick, I am SURE that Bible study is part of your life, but MOST people do not understand the relationship between marriage and sex. When Abraham sent his servant to get a wife for Isaac, he came back with Rebekah. When Isaac saw Rebekah, he "took her into his mother's tent, and they WERE MARRIED."! There are MANY references to marriage being sex, in the Bible, but that is a pill that no Christian wants to swallow. When a carpenter needs to repair/support a joist or rafter, or something of that sort, they take another, of the same thing, and "MARRY" them together. This makes the original STRONGER. In the beginning, "God MADE THEM ONE.". This is what a carpenter does. EVEN IN RAPE, a man HAS to take the woman as his 'wife'(his own). He has to pay the Bride Price, and SHE IS HIS! There are many more, but the point is, if you TEACH young people, that the VERY FIRST person that they HAVE SEX with, BECOMES THEIR SPOUSE, maybe they will make better decisions. ONLY VIRGINS and WIDOWS get this provision. If the girl IS NOT a virgin or widow, they are a harlot, or, at best, a concubine. Concubines typically had wealth, whereas harlots did not.
Keep up the good work, guys.
Godspeed.
In my experience, you're considered a wierdo for valuing virginity and waiting till marriage before having sex.
Celibacy and chastity is good even with in marriage because it keeps everyone innocent of accusation of any sort or kind.
Shut up
Nick, your show what would other countries think about a civil war here is being called a private video by Utube now. I want to see it but can’t
I have a question Nick, perhaps you can answer it, Is there a law on the books that keeps Americans from defending their border and or country from these insurgents entering this country with lethal force?
You should react to Myron gains and Justin Waller .
Just Christianity. No "judeo"!
Great episode
1:29:00 what do you get post Christian values of consent? What happened with Isreal hostages in Palestine. People cheering in the streets as a hostage woman's battered, shattered naked and violated corpse is dragged behind a bike. It's sick, degenerative, and in no way justifiable or should be allowed to happen.
Women in Ancient Greece were EXTREMELY closeted in society. Yes, in some Eastern societies women seemed to have more autonomy, but how much of that was propaganda by the Romans to vilify women acting out of line?
People like to point to Paul about telling women how to behave in the church; what they miss is that Paul was telling women to adhere to ROMAN CULTURAL STANDARDS so that the Romans would not look down on them, but see them as respectable - and therefore, see the church as respectable rather than another ‘mystery cult’ where the women are allowed to run havoc over the men.
That’s not true, Paul did not care about what Roman’s thought of them. The rules of women being quiet in church and not preaching still apply no matter the culture. No where in the Bible does it say or even imply it is purely cultural. This is an argument invented by feminist to pervert the church. Christianity is a patriarchal religion.
Do you think it would be possible to maintain the current norms around women in a preindustrialized society? If your answer to that is ‘yes’, then all of history disagrees with you. Modern conveniences invented by men have afforded women a certain level of comfort and have ‘liberated’ them from household necessities. And this along with the pill have allowed women a spectrum of choice greater than could be afforded in any other period of time. This is why women have the freedoms they have today. Paul’s advice is not merely cultural, but also prescriptive for church procedure. Acting in a disruptive manner is wrong in any sense because it bespeaks disunity which is not of the spirit. Women were given a specific role by God: To be a helpmeet. Failure to meet the role leads to many problems, and what Paul was pointing out was one example of this.
Constantin was not Christian. He worshipped the Sun God
Mithra I believe
No. Constantine was Christian. He learned from his mother. He converted. His troops fought under Christian symbols, which was a protection symbol. Protection symbols were especially important, so we can regard this as significant.
@ohthankg-dforthebourgeoisi9800 sorry. That's wrong. They tried to convert him on his deathbed. He laughed at them and told them. The making of Christianity into a state religion was purely political.
@@stevenrichardson3000 Historic Christianity wasn’t always used to push political agenda. And I don’t think it matters whether Constantine really did become a christian or not if that was the case.
When the Bible talks about how the Roman empire will return or alludes to that Babylon will become like the Roman empire. I can start to see the obsession with Rome as much as it annoys me, but it also terrifies me because I do see this happening someone once said, I think it was the Bible project or maybe it was someone else that Rome and the Roman gods were the pinnacle of the worst parts of humanity during Jesus time like all of our worst parts are lost or pride or arrogance gluttony the seven deadly sins we’re out there highest and they were even glorified at that time how people would eat and then throw up so they could eat some more. how are you could literally have sex with anyone given your status and not only that but one of the reasons why Christianity was a threat to the Roman empire was because the gods they worshiped were one of the pillars to their society at that time, and here comes Christianity spitting in the face of what kept the Roman empire glued together at that point says this is evil I am here to set you free for I am the light I am the alpha and the omega. I can see why won’t the Bible talks about the end times how one of the things that will happen is Babylon will be like Rome, and the funny thing is even if you remove Christianity from this for a moment, you’re starting to see a lot of that stuff from revelations come, true, plague, famine, wars all I can say, is that while there have been Babylon’s or day of the Lords in the past it is said that there will be a final day of the lord, and I don’t believe that just on a religious or spiritual level I believe it because we are running out of nations. We are running out of land to explore. We have the stars but unless if we colonize a planet, we have nowhere to go. It seems that Babylon can either happen one or two ways. It’s either America or it’s the nation that comes from the fall of America where Canada weather voluntary or involuntary really joins America along with Mexico, but at that point we would’ve had to have a dictator or a Cesar like ruler, who realize that in order to save the country, we needed to conquer some nations but again I am a Christian. I’ve took in my relationship seriously since 2016 of all things and yes it was the election that made me realize I needed God in my life not because of who won but because of how people acted one said person one and everything
What I meant to say, was everything sense 2016 has helped solidify my belief in Christ
Unwin's "Sex & Culture."
If you are going to use the Bible to say polygamy isn’t allowed I am going to need a reference.
Matthew 25:1-13
Are you telling me monogamy is the only God intended design but the first book of the New Testament likens heaven unto a sinful marriage?
Leviticus 18 is dedicated to sexual immorality and it doesn’t list poly as a problem. The only mention is 17 and 18 where it says you can’t have a woman and her daughter/granddaughter because related, and the same for her sister.
Exodus 21:10 gives the condition for taking another wife after marrying a servant. Namely you can’t diminish her food, clothing, or marital rights.
So we have laws for how to do polygamy properly, we have laws against marrying relatives, and we have Jesus himself likening Heaven unto 10 virgins marrying the same person (only 5 do, the others are foolish.). ((Yes I get it is a parable about being ready for the second coming))
So if you are going to refute that, I need a source saying it is wrong. Not implying it is a bad idea, not implying that only 2 are supposed to become one because Jesus used Adam and Eve to show that divorce isn’t allowed. A prohibition on poly. One instance where God or Jesus condemned it. Or one instance where the Bible said the only holy union is a monogamous one. If it is so important I assume it is clearly stated somewhere.
polygyny is sin = current day dogma, nowhere in torah, prophets or the greek testament was it ever condemned or called sin.
Have it your way and you will find out just like those now dead cultures found out.
@chericoffman6321 lol.. except they aren't dead. They still exist all over the world. hell, there are at least three dozen polygyny type marriages in Arkansas... still prevelant in Africa, Southern Islands of the Philippines with the Tboli people.... Muslims, Mormons, and let's not forget the christian polygamist that have stopped hiding... South America has thousands of men with multiple wives.
Are you a jew or a Christian? Jesus himself said that marriage was meant to be one woman one man bound for life as it was the original intention of God. More than one wife is a disorder, going against the original design and intention of God. The first person with 2 wives was cains descendant. He ended up cursed and died.
What are the chances? I was just thinking about the Roman empire and this video pops up in my feed. 😂
Jesus upped the standard from the basic 10 commandments and its legalistic potential which the Pharisees did a great job to twist and manipulate. Jesus upgraded the whole benchmark to the Beatitudes! THOSE are exactly the meaning of His words “I have not come to abolish the law but to fulfill it”. And WE, who call ourselves “Christians” have now to live by the Beatitudes! If we are to be “perfect as our Heavenly Father is perfect”. How? Well, we have been given Grace, through the Sacraments. Or we would never be able to even try to live by such standards. Grace helps us. 🙏🏼
Very interesting...
Looks like tonight's show just got cancelled.
I’ll give the council . They did do a good job at amalgamating the New Testament in the Old Testament. My crap with them is the Trinity that was pure the fourth century invention. The father son and Holy Ghost are not one being. They are three beings within one governance that us in the latter-day Saint faith referred to as the godhead.
Þey ſpent þis whole epiſode hating conſent but þey juſt want Jeſus to conſent.
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VERY GOOD NIKE ,AIRBORNE!!!
It's not rape in the animal kingdom... what's wrong with you???
I've got horses and the stallion ain't getting on or in a mare that doesn't want to be covered. Same with cattle
I know exactly which section got your most recent video removed from YT. and you'll still grovel for them.
This woman in the video attempting to "teach" is pushing religious dogma, not actual biblical customs, cultures, structures, and commandments.
You mean nicks wife, Tina
@maryjacobs5920 No, the woman playing in the video they are showing
Hmm the Roman culture seems a lot like Islam
You don't have the elements of moral duty to lie, cheat, kill and enslave others mandated. In Rome it was not viewed negatively rather than considered manditory.