Mary Seacole was a Jamaican nurse who learned the art of caring and healing from her mother. In her native land of Jamaica, British West Indies, she was nicknamed “Doc- tress” because of her administration of care to the sick in a lodging house in Kingston (Carnegie, 1995). Seacole learned of the Crimean War and wrote to the British government requesting to join Nightingale’s group of nurses. However, she was denied the right to join because she was black. She was confused about this denial because many of the British soldiers had lived in Jamaica, where she had already provided health care to them. Seacole had previously served as a nurse in Cuba and Panama during the yellow fever and cholera epidemics. She had also conducted forensic studies on an infant who died of cholera in Panama. She felt that her experience would be valuable in treating disease in the Crimean War, and she sailed to England at her own expense. She pro- vided a letter of introduction to Nightingale, which was blocked because Seacole was black, even though she had been trained by British army physicians (Carnegie, 1995). After several efforts to join Nightingale’s group failed, Seacole, who was not a woman of wealth, purchased her own supplies and traveled more than 3000 miles to the Crimea, where she built and opened a lodging house. On the bottom floor of the house was a restaurant, and on the top floor an area was arranged like a hospital to nurse sick soldiers (Carnegie, 1995). When Seacole finally met Nightingale, the response was still the same: “no vacancies” (Carnegie, 1995). However, being denied enlistment did not deter Sea- cole; she remained faithful and nursed the sick through- out the Crimean War. Her efforts did not go unnoticed by the English people. Long after the war was over, the British government finally honored Seacole with a medal in recognition of her efforts and the services she provided to the sick and injured soldiers. Reference Cherry, B., & Jacob, S. R. (2014). Contemporary Nursing: Issues, Trends, & Management (6th Edition ed.). St. Louis, Missouri: Elsevier.
You write a lot but only reference one source, although credit others at the end. I’m not sure much of what you write is correct, but I bet you really hope it is. How do you feel about the mixed race Seacole liberally using the ‘n-word’ in her writings? Or likening a grilled monkey head to that of a black baby? Sounds a bit racist, don’t you think?
Even a celebrated French Chef of the day was in admiration of, and inspired by Mary Seacoles passionate holistic commitment to reujevenating the lives of battle scarred soldiers, right there on the front line.
Both Mary and Florence represent the two sides to nursing. Florence the administrator and Mary the Carer. A combo of the two could lead to the best nursing in the world.
If you read Mary Seacole's book, she explains exactly why she was in Crimea. There is no mention of her thinking she is a nurse, she learnt that herbs, good nutrition and care made the soldiers well. She learned her skills from her mother. She opened her HOTEL, not hospital, sold good home grown vegetables and decent food - from seeds she took out with her - the money she raised from selling her food to healthy officers and officials going to buy beds, bed linen etc for the wounded soldiers, adding more buildings to the original hotel as demand grew. She went out to the battlefields to find the wounded soldiers. She was tiny and would invariably fall in the mud under their weight, to be helped by other soldiers who would lay down their rifles to do so. She was refused a place in Florence Nightingale's troop of nurses because she was black. She married an Englishman, she returned to UK penniless and was feted til her death. She is buried in Highgate cemetery. There is scanty evidence that Nightingale's continual floor scrubbing made much difference to the mortality of the soldiers in her care as opposed to Seacole's good food, clean bed linen and surroundings. An unsung, misunderstood heroine who was and still is, not appreciated or wellknown, overshadowed by the white heroine of the day. Seacole was the quiet one with the common sense to see the holistic approach, after all that's how we would care for our loved ones nowadays. I am a nurse and am white. Mary Seacole should be every nurses role model. Go and say hello to her in the National Portrait Gallery, but never call her a nurse. She nursed but never called herself one. She was a good humanitarian.
Reminds me of the ride of Paul Revere. There were several other riders as well as Paul and at one point Paul Revere lost his horse to the British. The others were less well known because of a Longfellow poem which exclusively told of Revere.
Thank you very much for your kind comment, Mr. G :o). I, too, have found that it is better to be thought a fool, than to open your mouth to have it confirmed.
I have only read a good synopsis of Mary's autobiography, and can say that a lot of what is now being told of as her history is untrue at worst or twisted truth at best. Mary never claimed to be a Nurse or 'Doctoress" nor that her mother was, as is the recent narrative. In fact Physicians were invariably male, as women were thought too incompetent and weak to do such a job. Women as Nurses was also not a thing, for the same reasons. Florence Nightingale was the first recognised Nurse in the world. Women were thought too stupid and weak (or 'delicate'). Florence was much maligned for her capabilities in her own time especially for her insistence on cleanliness as Physicians, such they were, took great pride in old dirty blood being on their coats. People believed it a testimony that they were experienced. Not only the quacks of the time believed that but people in general did. Mary wasn't untruthful and apparently never claimed to be a Nurse or Doctress. Nor that her mother was. She also wrote that she opened and ran an hotel and restaurant, not for the ill and injured. It was her business venture and she only sometimes visited patients in the local hospital. She did supply her brews to people and later realised that her concoctions must have killed a lot of them, which she deeply regretted. However, that was the nature of herbal medicines and it still is to some extent. There are countless herbal and spice 'cures' on the Web but if you search the recommended plant and write 'dangers' after the word in the search bar it is frightening how many times a thing can have an even worse effect than the illness and even sometimes be deadly. Also, she used mercury and lead. That said, she wasn't the only one. It seems it was usual for the time. Such things did cure what they were treating and the bit later ill effects would appear to be unrelated. Laudnum was also heavily used and freely sold, and a lot of people became addicted and died from that too. It isn't possible to compare medical practice of even the time of Florence and Mary with later practice. It would be incorrect to describe any of them as Nurses. In fact, a lot of people who were patients of or worked with Florence seemed to find some justified faults with her, including that she was cold and aloof toward patients. Maybe a snob. Mary seems to have been more warm and personable. However, bigging them up helped with the efforts of the emancipation of women which whilst it was much needed, the plan wasn't really to help women at all but to have women vote and undermine men, to take mens jobs for much lower pay which would in due course cause mens pay to be far less, to 'encourage' mums of even babies to go out to work and therefore not be a constant figure and stable influence on the children and in the home, and the end goal to break up the family and turn the genders against each other. Why would those long powerful families do that? Because the family is the backbone of any society. Break down families and the women and children are more easily targeted, as men are less inclined to protect them after being disregarded by the women. Then society can be reshaped. Children get their ideas and characters from being brainwashed in schools, by TV and any other means available instead of parents and other elders in their families. The changes to society planned and being carried out are not good and healthy for us. The best way to find the truth of anything about the twisted histories we are now told is to try and buy the earliest edition books possible, particularly autobiographies (which also may be biased). Lies about history are almost always to divide and conquer. To make the group no longer favourable to those in control look bad. Years ago it was more popular to disparage Jews, and Blacks, Asians, whoever. Really it never matters too much which group, as long as the general populace can be signalled "Don't look here at us and what we are doing to you. Look at them there and what they did". There is always an agenda and it is never really for the long term betterment of the masses, even if it appears to be at first. E.G. When Blair became PM in 1997 (without my vote. I did not vote for any of them) most people were amazed at how quickly it appeared he improved the NHS. After all, it had clearly been falling apart for years. What few people knew was that it was at the expense of mental health services and other less obvious disciplines. Also only those at or near the top including within the NHS knew the 'improvements' were to make it attractive to buyers. It was sold lock, stock and barrel to (William's?) SERCO on the open stock market in 1998. Now, it's various component authorities are listed on Dun & Bradstreet. The USA branch, not the branch in England. So it appears to have been broken up and sold on piecemeal. There so much more I write as examples but too much for here. What is made to look good for us is in reality very much to the detriment of ourselves, our children and theirs ad infinitum. Lesson to be learned; never trust the official or popular narrative whether it is about history, science, politics or anything. Always research for yourselves as far as you can. Even then you may not find the whole truth
"It's crazy that Nightingale wouldn't let Seacole into her hospital because at the time Jamaica was still under British rule. So in a way, she was British." Indeed! George Orwell is seen as a British writer, and he was born in India when India was part of the British Empire. My guess is that Seacole's requests were denied due to her skincolour.
Cliff: "Oh, how would you feel about being featured a historical sketch show on the BBC?" Mary: "It any good?" Cliff:" It ain't bad." Indeed,Cliff.He,he.
Can't believe I've never heard of Mary Seacole! On another note, I was surprised when my introductory statistics prof said that Florence Nightingale is the most famous statistician in history.
@colleenbelle It was down to the government introducing a sanitary comission to clean up the hospitals, this was what made death rates lower from 42% to 2%
Really. Did Florence go to the battlefields everyday to help the injured straight away? Mary went to the battlefields everyday and help the soldiers even while under fire. Mary wanted to help more then Florence even if she didn't. Mary didn't just give the soldiers alcohol. She gave them food, a place to stay and recover. And she did it alone. You cannot say she only sold alcohol. Do some research.
How do you know all of this if she did it all alone!! I think I may have cracked the mystery, Flo is remembered because she made sure history recorded her achievements while Mary.. we can't be sure what she may or may not have done! hence she's not as famous. Oh well, back to youtube..
I think you've misunderstood. This clip is from the show 'Horrible Histories' which is a kids TV show that teaches kids history through the medium of comedy. The have not reduced anything those women did, as neither of them are the butt of the joke. The research for the show is done by actual bona fide historians. The light-hearted approach makes it more appealing to kids.
@nicnoc1976 Yes, she set up what was called "the British Hotel'" and they did serve alcohol as she was actually a vitialer, ie like a shop, but due to it's location, clean drinking water was hard to get, so people drunk alcohol instead. I agree with what you say about F.N. but she was in Scutari, 100 miles from the front in Turkey. Mary Seacole was right there and visiting the wounded where they lay.
Florence Nightingale did not invent the pie chart and it wasn't a pie chart anyway. She did use them however. Mary Seacole was a very enterprising woman but her impact on nursing was minimal. She ran a hostelry for officers rather than a nursing home. Florence Nightingale revolutionised hospital care.
@Elizabeththegreatest I think she did get some recognition at the time but seems to have been somewhat whitewashed out of the history books. Florence Nightingale acknowledged her work but was a bit puritanical about the hotels and establishments Seacole set up that served alcohol. Apparently though, Nightingale turned out to be one of the anonymous donors to Mary's testimonial fund when she was declared bankrupt.
@colleenbelle i watched that QI too. When she got to the hospital, the death rates actually increased to start off with! However, this doesn't change that she gave a big contribution to medicicine and nursing after.
i did a exam on mary and florence and i learnt a lot about them both and what mary seacle did was better for the soilders but because she was black she was remember less :'(
Mary Seacole wasn't much of a nurse - she may have helped out on the battlefield, but as she says here, she only built a hostel which sold alcohol whereas Florence Nightingale was a proper nurse with a proper hospital. Also, I very much doubt Seacole spoke with that accent, and by the way, she was only 3/4 black.
the hospital does not define you as a nurse...they're where both exemplary women with different specialties. but i have to give this to mary a kickass girl than the goodygirl florence
+itsjemmabond What is this? ... 'wasn't much of a nurse', 'may have helped out on the battlefield...', 'only a built a hostel which sold alcohol'. Yeah, its easy to trample on achievements of even Nobel laureates when accompanied with a massive dose of ignorance. What this extraordinary woman did by herself with her own money, blood, sweat and tears on the front-line of the Crimea was nothing less than remarkable. All in an age when to live, eat and associate with a person of any hue other than white was deemed akin to living, eating and barking amongst rabid dogs.
Pulsonar I'm not trampling on her achievements as you put it, I'm just telling it as it is. Yes, she did use her own money as well as blood sweat and tears, but since when did nursing include the administration of alcoholic beverages? I know for a fact that Florence did not allow her patients any spirits, which was probably why Mary was popular with them. By the way, contrary to what we see here, Florence was not exactly racist; she didn't accept Mary as a member of her team because of the class barrier, but she did send her some money later on. www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/jun/08/mary-seacole-statue-florence-nightingale-disservice
+itsjemmabond Florence Nightingale wasn't technically classed as a nurse either. During those times, nursing didn't really exist as a job. She was in the administration and was very good at gathering statistics that the wounded men were dying more in the hospitals than out in the battlefield and lobbied for a restructuring of the hospital environment to be more organised, cleaner and efficient. Mary went directly into the battlefield because she saw that transportation of the injured men was taking too long to reach the hospitals. As for the whole serving alcohol, while the alcohol was unorthodox by todays standards, it does influence a lot of what modern nursing is i.e. giving a patient a cup of tea/squash/coffee/light conversation to relieve boredom etc. Her approach was focused on the holistic care as well as using the knowledge of her cultures medicine which makes her just as much as a "nurse" as Florence Nightingale (even though both of them would sneer at you for saying they were nurses). Also, bear mind in hindsight on what we know about germs now, that alcohol that she served during that time period, with its anti-septic properties was probably safer to drink than giving the soldiers water.
how do you feel about being featured in a historical sketch show for the bbc? its called horrible histories and you're on it now!!!!! love this video SHUT IT LAMPY KNICKERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FLorence did nt turn her away because of her race. Infact, Florence's grandfather William Smith was a campaigner against slavery and helped William Wilberforce. The whole family was opposed to slavery. Mary was turned away more because of her class than anything else but Florence supported her in later years.
Cool but if you do your own research, Mary was recognized, especially during the Crimean war - where it counted. It's only as history moved on many folk are forgotten. Ask a youth today in the 21st century if they have heard of "Florence Nightingale" - I highly doubt it.
@Elizabeththegreatest It wasn't just because she was black - it was because she supposedly wasn't British - although since her father was from Scotland, she was technically half British so it should have counted
Simon Is ++ Good! he's right on the money (or, 'spot-on' to my friends accross the pond!) in whatever character he portays! & is it just me... or does he remind anyone else of a young Benny Hill?
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Mary Seacole was a Jamaican nurse who learned the art of caring and healing from her mother. In her native land of Jamaica, British West Indies, she was nicknamed “Doc- tress” because of her administration of care to the sick in a lodging house in Kingston (Carnegie, 1995). Seacole learned of the Crimean War and wrote to the British government requesting to join Nightingale’s group of nurses. However, she was denied the right to join because she was black. She was confused about this denial because many of the British soldiers had lived in Jamaica, where she had already provided health care to them.
Seacole had previously served as a nurse in Cuba and Panama during the yellow fever and cholera epidemics. She had also conducted forensic studies on an infant who died of cholera in Panama. She felt that her experience would be valuable in treating disease in the Crimean War, and she sailed to England at her own expense. She pro- vided a letter of introduction to Nightingale, which was blocked because Seacole was black, even though she had been trained by British army physicians (Carnegie, 1995).
After several efforts to join Nightingale’s group failed, Seacole, who was not a woman of wealth, purchased her
own supplies and traveled more than 3000 miles to the Crimea, where she built and opened a lodging house. On the bottom floor of the house was a restaurant, and on the top floor an area was arranged like a hospital to nurse sick soldiers (Carnegie, 1995).
When Seacole finally met Nightingale, the response was still the same: “no vacancies” (Carnegie, 1995). However, being denied enlistment did not deter Sea- cole; she remained faithful and nursed the sick through- out the Crimean War. Her efforts did not go unnoticed by the English people. Long after the war was over, the British government finally honored Seacole with a medal in recognition of her efforts and the services she provided to the sick and injured soldiers.
Reference
Cherry, B., & Jacob, S. R. (2014). Contemporary Nursing: Issues, Trends, & Management (6th Edition ed.). St. Louis, Missouri: Elsevier.
You write a lot but only reference one source, although credit others at the end. I’m not sure much of what you write is correct, but I bet you really hope it is. How do you feel about the mixed race Seacole liberally using the ‘n-word’ in her writings? Or likening a grilled monkey head to that of a black baby? Sounds a bit racist, don’t you think?
The actress playing Mary Seacole is so cute! I love her accent! :D
Love the ending.
"How would you feel about being featured in a historical scetch show for the BBC?" "It any good?" "It ain't bad!"
That kids is what is known in the industry as 4th wall breaking
"Shut it, Lampy Knickers!" ... PRICELESS!
Even a celebrated French Chef of the day was in admiration of, and inspired by Mary Seacoles passionate holistic commitment to reujevenating the lives of battle scarred soldiers, right there on the front line.
Both Mary and Florence represent the two sides to nursing. Florence the administrator and Mary the Carer. A combo of the two could lead to the best nursing in the world.
this is helping me so much with my A levels man
If you read Mary Seacole's book, she explains exactly why she was in Crimea. There is no mention of her thinking she is a nurse, she learnt that herbs, good nutrition and care made the soldiers well. She learned her skills from her mother.
She opened her HOTEL, not hospital, sold good home grown vegetables and decent food - from seeds she took out with her - the money she raised from selling her food to healthy officers and officials going to buy beds, bed linen etc for the wounded soldiers, adding more buildings to the original hotel as demand grew.
She went out to the battlefields to find the wounded soldiers. She was tiny and would invariably fall in the mud under their weight, to be helped by other soldiers who would lay down their rifles to do so.
She was refused a place in Florence Nightingale's troop of nurses because she was black.
She married an Englishman, she returned to UK penniless and was feted til her death. She is buried in Highgate cemetery.
There is scanty evidence that Nightingale's continual floor scrubbing made much difference to the mortality of the soldiers in her care as opposed to Seacole's good food, clean bed linen and surroundings.
An unsung, misunderstood heroine who was and still is, not appreciated or wellknown, overshadowed by the white heroine of the day.
Seacole was the quiet one with the common sense to see the holistic approach, after all that's how we would care for our loved ones nowadays.
I am a nurse and am white. Mary Seacole should be every nurses role model.
Go and say hello to her in the National Portrait Gallery, but never call her a nurse. She nursed but never called herself one.
She was a good humanitarian.
I tend not to read comments, they are often horrible petty things but this is one of (if not the most) uplifting comment I have ever read on youtube.
SHUT IT, LAMPYKNICKERS!!
LOL!!
Reminds me of the ride of Paul Revere. There were several other riders as well as Paul and at one point Paul Revere lost his horse to the British. The others were less well known because of a Longfellow poem which exclusively told of Revere.
'florence nightinghale :)'
'felewence nettinggele'
haha!!
Go Mary Seacole!
My fave HH scene ever! Thanks for uploading :-)
Thank you very much for your kind comment, Mr. G :o).
I, too, have found that it is better to be thought a fool, than to open your mouth to have it confirmed.
I have only read a good synopsis of Mary's autobiography, and can say that a lot of what is now being told of as her history is untrue at worst or twisted truth at best.
Mary never claimed to be a Nurse or 'Doctoress" nor that her mother was, as is the recent narrative. In fact Physicians were invariably male, as women were thought too incompetent and weak to do such a job. Women as Nurses was also not a thing, for the same reasons.
Florence Nightingale was the first recognised Nurse in the world. Women were thought too stupid and weak (or 'delicate'). Florence was much maligned for her capabilities in her own time especially for her insistence on cleanliness as Physicians, such they were, took great pride in old dirty blood being on their coats. People believed it a testimony that they were experienced. Not only the quacks of the time believed that but people in general did.
Mary wasn't untruthful and apparently never claimed to be a Nurse or Doctress. Nor that her mother was. She also wrote that she opened and ran an hotel and restaurant, not for the ill and injured. It was her business venture and she only sometimes visited patients in the local hospital.
She did supply her brews to people and later realised that her concoctions must have killed a lot of them, which she deeply regretted. However, that was the nature of herbal medicines and it still is to some extent. There are countless herbal and spice 'cures' on the Web but if you search the recommended plant and write 'dangers' after the word in the search bar it is frightening how many times a thing can have an even worse effect than the illness and even sometimes be deadly.
Also, she used mercury and lead. That said, she wasn't the only one. It seems it was usual for the time. Such things did cure what they were treating and the bit later ill effects would appear to be unrelated. Laudnum was also heavily used and freely sold, and a lot of people became addicted and died from that too.
It isn't possible to compare medical practice of even the time of Florence and Mary with later practice. It would be incorrect to describe any of them as Nurses. In fact, a lot of people who were patients of or worked with Florence seemed to find some justified faults with her, including that she was cold and aloof toward patients. Maybe a snob. Mary seems to have been more warm and personable. However, bigging them up helped with the efforts of the emancipation of women which whilst it was much needed, the plan wasn't really to help women at all but to have women vote and undermine men, to take mens jobs for much lower pay which would in due course cause mens pay to be far less, to 'encourage' mums of even babies to go out to work and therefore not be a constant figure and stable influence on the children and in the home, and the end goal to break up the family and turn the genders against each other. Why would those long powerful families do that? Because the family is the backbone of any society. Break down families and the women and children are more easily targeted, as men are less inclined to protect them after being disregarded by the women. Then society can be reshaped. Children get their ideas and characters from being brainwashed in schools, by TV and any other means available instead of parents and other elders in their families. The changes to society planned and being carried out are not good and healthy for us.
The best way to find the truth of anything about the twisted histories we are now told is to try and buy the earliest edition books possible, particularly autobiographies (which also may be biased).
Lies about history are almost always to divide and conquer. To make the group no longer favourable to those in control look bad. Years ago it was more popular to disparage Jews, and Blacks, Asians, whoever. Really it never matters too much which group, as long as the general populace can be signalled "Don't look here at us and what we are doing to you. Look at them there and what they did". There is always an agenda and it is never really for the long term betterment of the masses, even if it appears to be at first. E.G. When Blair became PM in 1997 (without my vote. I did not vote for any of them) most people were amazed at how quickly it appeared he improved the NHS. After all, it had clearly been falling apart for years. What few people knew was that it was at the expense of mental health services and other less obvious disciplines. Also only those at or near the top including within the NHS knew the 'improvements' were to make it attractive to buyers. It was sold lock, stock and barrel to (William's?) SERCO on the open stock market in 1998. Now, it's various component authorities are listed on Dun & Bradstreet. The USA branch, not the branch in England. So it appears to have been broken up and sold on piecemeal. There so much more I write as examples but too much for here. What is made to look good for us is in reality very much to the detriment of ourselves, our children and theirs ad infinitum.
Lesson to be learned; never trust the official or popular narrative whether it is about history, science, politics or anything. Always research for yourselves as far as you can. Even then you may not find the whole truth
ahhhhhh I adore this show.
horrible History! my little sister loves it :')
"It's crazy that Nightingale wouldn't let Seacole into her hospital because at the time Jamaica was still under British rule. So in a way, she was British."
Indeed! George Orwell is seen as a British writer, and he was born in India when India was part of the British Empire. My guess is that Seacole's requests were denied due to her skincolour.
I suggest you look at the history debunked channel about Mary Seacole.
Mary Secole !!!!!! woop and the way mary secole was like "Florence nightingale " in an English accent LOOOOOOOOOOL
SHUT IT LAMPY KNICKERS xD Always cracks me up :D
...it aint bad...BEST LINE EVER
Shut it lampy knickers! That always cracks me up.
I love it
No problem, I love it too :)
YEAH!
Team Seacole!
True , True and still true
"Shut it, Lampy-knickers!" 2:42 Hahaha......
Assistant: Cliff Whitlie
Cliff: It's WHITLEY!
Me: LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!
I love it when he said shut it lampyknickers
lol love it when he says Shut It Lampy Knickers
Cliff: "Oh, how would you feel about being featured a historical sketch show on the BBC?"
Mary: "It any good?"
Cliff:" It ain't bad."
Indeed,Cliff.He,he.
Love that they broke the 4th wall
TEAM SEACOLE!
I know Mary Seacole had been in the national curriculum for a few years before this, but I like to believe that it's all because of this sketch.
Love Simon as cliff utter class . Lumpy knickers lol
Can't believe I've never heard of Mary Seacole!
On another note, I was surprised when my introductory statistics prof said that Florence Nightingale is the most famous statistician in history.
TEAM SEACOLE.
Epic
nice
@colleenbelle It was down to the government introducing a sanitary comission to clean up the hospitals, this was what made death rates lower from 42% to 2%
Me too! When I was a little kid living in Virginia , the women who took care of me when my parents were at work were black.
Really. Did Florence go to the battlefields everyday to help the injured straight away? Mary went to the battlefields everyday and help the soldiers even while under fire. Mary wanted to help more then Florence even if she didn't. Mary didn't just give the soldiers alcohol. She gave them food, a place to stay and recover. And she did it alone. You cannot say she only sold alcohol. Do some research.
How do you know all of this if she did it all alone!!
I think I may have cracked the mystery, Flo is remembered because she made sure history recorded her achievements while Mary.. we can't be sure what she may or may not have done! hence she's not as famous. Oh well, back to youtube..
Once, she went once, but did take time out to sell wine and sandwiches to spectators. Research done by the way ,
+Ameya S fuck u
Yes, she's a Horrible Histories regular cast member.
Lamp Knickers, ha.
Wollop! I love Simon Farnaby, he's awesome.
I think you've misunderstood. This clip is from the show 'Horrible Histories' which is a kids TV show that teaches kids history through the medium of comedy. The have not reduced anything those women did, as neither of them are the butt of the joke. The research for the show is done by actual bona fide historians. The light-hearted approach makes it more appealing to kids.
"cliff whitelayy - it's whitely!" ahhahaha
Doctors catch-frace Wollop classic :-) yeah
3:00
Best line in whole thing
4th wall breaking at its best
I did not know dat -3 xxx
@nicnoc1976 Yes, she set up what was called "the British Hotel'" and they did serve alcohol as she was actually a vitialer, ie like a shop, but due to it's location, clean drinking water was hard to get, so people drunk alcohol instead. I agree with what you say about F.N. but she was in Scutari, 100 miles from the front in Turkey. Mary Seacole was right there and visiting the wounded where they lay.
She was indeed born in Florence, hence the name; her father named her after the city.
It ain't bad... *Winks*
she used the excuse that her positions were only for british nurses but Mary's dad was scottish
Agreed
alright ladies, chill aaaahhhh-out
Well I invented the pie chart!
You invented the the pie chart ?
Yes I did.
Did not know that!
Soooo funny!!!!
WOLLAP! LOL! :D
Florence Nightingale did not invent the pie chart and it wasn't a pie chart anyway. She did use them however. Mary Seacole was a very enterprising woman but her impact on nursing was minimal. She ran a hostelry for officers rather than a nursing home. Florence Nightingale revolutionised hospital care.
ha ha ha ha i love that wolap
true
It's Olinto de Pretto and Albert Einstein all over again.
Apart from Mary Seacole who has a Jamaican accent.
@Elizabeththegreatest I think she did get some recognition at the time but seems to have been somewhat whitewashed out of the history books. Florence Nightingale acknowledged her work but was a bit puritanical about the hotels and establishments Seacole set up that served alcohol. Apparently though, Nightingale turned out to be one of the anonymous donors to Mary's testimonial fund when she was declared bankrupt.
I personally think that Michael Gove should see this.
SHUT IT LAMPYKNICKERS!
SHAAHT IT, LAMPY-KNICKERS!
So funny
Shut it, lampy knickers!
@GeishaShattori That's Dominique Moore. She's in quite a few Horrible Histories sketches. She's lovely. This is not her real accent of course! x
WOLLAP!
SHUT IT LAMPY KNICKERS!
shut it lampy nickers...lollll
@colleenbelle i watched that QI too. When she got to the hospital, the death rates actually increased to start off with! However, this doesn't change that she gave a big contribution to medicicine and nursing after.
@321XbethX123 Was deliberate. x
Florence was actually born in Italy she wasn't british anway WOLLOP!
Nick Brenton lol
Her posh parents disapproved of her nursing!
this is crazy the comments its so sad that u hate that a black lady has skills
It's not fair that poor Mary Seacole got the shaft just because she was black, she did just as much good as Florence Nightingale!
Actually, the pie chart was invented by William Playfair.
i did a exam on mary and florence and i learnt a lot about them both and what mary seacle did was better for the soilders but because she was black she was remember less :'(
Wallop!
to be exact she was born in florence
Lol, its the Uni I work at
Better line:
Seacole: It any good?
Whiteley: Its...... Horrible... wallop!
lampynickers... LOL
I'd rather have Mary Seacole treat me with an injury than Florence Nightingale!
CLIFF WHITLY!IT'S F**KING WHITELEY!
WHOOP!!
Telling it haaaaaw it wasn't....
@Spieldamelenium Both did amazing work, just one was remembered more than the other.
WALLOP!!! :-)
Mary Seacole wasn't much of a nurse - she may have helped out on the battlefield, but as she says here, she only built a hostel which sold alcohol whereas Florence Nightingale was a proper nurse with a proper hospital. Also, I very much doubt Seacole spoke with that accent, and by the way, she was only 3/4 black.
the hospital does not define you as a nurse...they're where both exemplary women with different specialties. but i have to give this to mary a kickass girl than the goodygirl florence
+itsjemmabond What is this? ... 'wasn't much of a nurse', 'may have helped out on the battlefield...', 'only a built a hostel which sold alcohol'. Yeah, its easy to trample on achievements of even Nobel laureates when accompanied with a massive dose of ignorance. What this extraordinary woman did by herself with her own money, blood, sweat and tears on the front-line of the Crimea was nothing less than remarkable. All in an age when to live, eat and associate with a person of any hue other than white was deemed akin to living, eating and barking amongst rabid dogs.
Pulsonar
I'm not trampling on her achievements as you put it, I'm just telling it as it is. Yes, she did use her own money as well as blood sweat and tears, but since when did nursing include the administration of alcoholic beverages? I know for a fact that Florence did not allow her patients any spirits, which was probably why Mary was popular with them. By the way, contrary to what we see here, Florence was not exactly racist; she didn't accept Mary as a member of her team because of the class barrier, but she did send her some money later on. www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/jun/08/mary-seacole-statue-florence-nightingale-disservice
+itsjemmabond Florence Nightingale wasn't technically classed as a nurse either. During those times, nursing didn't really exist as a job. She was in the administration and was very good at gathering statistics that the wounded men were dying more in the hospitals than out in the battlefield and lobbied for a restructuring of the hospital environment to be more organised, cleaner and efficient. Mary went directly into the battlefield because she saw that transportation of the injured men was taking too long to reach the hospitals. As for the whole serving alcohol, while the alcohol was unorthodox by todays standards, it does influence a lot of what modern nursing is i.e. giving a patient a cup of tea/squash/coffee/light conversation to relieve boredom etc. Her approach was focused on the holistic care as well as using the knowledge of her cultures medicine which makes her just as much as a "nurse" as Florence Nightingale (even though both of them would sneer at you for saying they were nurses). Also, bear mind in hindsight on what we know about germs now, that alcohol that she served during that time period, with its anti-septic properties was probably safer to drink than giving the soldiers water.
SoyKing
Touché!
Is that Alice Lowe playing the receptionist? Cause I thought she looked familiar when I saw the ad for Sightseers
Assistant: Cliff Whitlie
how do you feel about being featured in a historical sketch show for the bbc?
its called horrible histories and you're on it now!!!!!
love this video
SHUT IT LAMPY KNICKERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Its fantastic 4th wall breaking
FLorence did nt turn her away because of her race. Infact, Florence's grandfather William Smith was a campaigner against slavery and helped William Wilberforce. The whole family was opposed to slavery. Mary was turned away more because of her class than anything else but Florence supported her in later years.
@nicnoc1976 o wow i never knew that...thanx
Cool but if you do your own research, Mary was recognized, especially during the Crimean war - where it counted. It's only as history moved on many folk are forgotten.
Ask a youth today in the 21st century if they have heard of "Florence Nightingale" - I highly doubt it.
@Elizabeththegreatest It wasn't just because she was black - it was because she supposedly wasn't British - although since her father was from Scotland, she was technically half British so it should have counted
@GrumpyMeldrew Very good comment!
Simon Is ++ Good! he's right on the money (or, 'spot-on' to my friends accross the pond!) in whatever character he portays! & is it just me... or does he remind anyone else of a young Benny Hill?
cliff whiteley looks like pierce brosnan