I have a funny story. I was playing Jeff yesterday and I swallowed 4 members of the enemy team with my Ult. Then the enemy Jeff swallowed me when I held his entire team inside. He knocked us all off the map and teamkilled them all.
1:09 _“Wait it’s on a global cooldown. If I right click then everything else is on cooldown too.”_ I mean… hard to use hammer based abilities when it’s not in your hand.
This is such a tryhard comment that makes no sense. When you dash, he still has his hammer. His F doesn’t even need his hammer and his throw is so fast that his cooldowns are longer than the return of Mjornir
The fact that he has to manage ThorForce stack to get shield instead of having a designated skill for shield and health regen already put this hero at a higher skill ceiling for me. Putting him in tank will also bait people thinking he is tanky, but he is not. I have seen so many times in my games today where I just die instantly when I charge in, playing him like a brawler will have more success than diving into a group of 6 head first. Also I think it would be cool if he could right click again when Mjolnir is in the air so that he can to fly to it.
I think using combat to generate Overhealth rather than just having a “not die” button like Venom is a sound design for a melee Hero. Magik and Black Panther have similar mechanics, which are necessary because they need to dive head-first into the fray in order to get value. I think it would be boring if he had a “press button get overhealth” ability instead. Also, broadly speaking, I wouldn’t recommend diving into a full team head-first with any melee Hero. Venom can get away with it because Symbiotic Resistance is broken in its current state, but Magik, Black Panther, and Spider-Man all have to use their mobility to single out targets in order to confirm kills. If any of them dive into a team, even with their survivability options, they’re gonna get rolled. Thor is no different, if you’re charging into a full team and paying for it, then try a less suicidal approach to your engagements 😂
I think they wanted all his abilities to have a very low cooldown and balanced his global cooldown and resource around it but he just seems slow and clunky. His movement speed is agonizingly slow (hence everyone being just slightly out of range of hammer swings), the cooldown stops you from doing any combos too quick (which is the job the resource is also supposed to do), and he seems just clunky. If they sped him up a bit (either faster base speed, or a way to increase movement speed like the AOE or more speed with more stacks of Thorforce or something), increased his painfully slow movement speed while charging up his dash and during his ult, and decreased the global cooldown to somewhere like 0.75-0.5 seconds, I think he'd feel SO much better to play and from there they can add slight nerfs to compensate or just watch and see how people do with him.
Thor feels so bad to play here is why: when you hit his dash on enemies that are flying from below it does absoutely nothing no dmg no knockback when his dash touches the smallest terrain it completely stops his dash can only hit/push/damage only 1 person without his f he does 0 dmg you cant cancel your f and to dash away or right click to get shield even if you could there is a 2 second window where you can't use your abilities his ult can't do damage to airborne enemies janky hit detection on left click dash and right click I expected nothing and still got dissapointed
Why not use the dash ability more often? U do not need to full charge it. It is good so stop one or more enemies doing damage to you (for a short period of time), for closing the distance, and makes you slightly harder to hit?
I feel like you are underusing the dash significantly, its on a two second cooldown, knocks people away. I think the move is start the fight with thorforce since you have 3 hammer charges from the start, chunk someone go in with dash, build up thorforce dash out (cause low cd, like really really low cd) thorforce at range and go back in. Or all in with dash, thorforce at melee range, use shields to survive the focus that you will get due to thorforce at close range, dash out. The throwing hammer ability seems pointless, probably useful for poke when no thorforce up or you dont want to go in.
Thor is strong, he just isn't Venom. Like a Hulk or Magneto bubble puts him near base Venom level, but you can also use those to make Venom literally unkillable. They nerf Venom, you'll see more Thor.
Not this guide though. Lol, dude was not playing thor right in the least. 1 2 3 Bonk. Just swinging at air and poking every two seconds with hammer toss instead of using dashes to be sticky.
It's funny that you call him OP but literally everyone else calls him underpowered and bad. He's my main though and I don't know what those guys are smoking. I get tons of kills etc.
"his biggest weakness is being slightly out of range" No, lol not even close. You need to use your shift charge ability instead of your hammer throw because of the global cooldown. Just tap the shift and you have a dash every two seconds. Dash with auto attacks and building hammer charges is way better than chasing people around mid range poking them every two seconds with a hammer throw. Derp.
He literally got MVP as Thor on every one of these games. He's the only creator I've seen make a Thor video who actually pays attention to managing Thorforce correctly. If you play him correctly, Thor passively generates 50 shield per second infinitely while also dealing a bunch of damage and being mobile with infinite dashes (which also briefly cc/interrupts enemies hit by it). Everyone who has said thorn is weak I've watched them play him poorly. They don't manage Thorforce correctly and they don't generate infinite shields. Then they whine that they don't feel like a tank.
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THOR is OP
“I don’t think Thor is op”
well, everyone is kinda OP but some are actually OP.
I have a funny story. I was playing Jeff yesterday and I swallowed 4 members of the enemy team with my Ult. Then the enemy Jeff swallowed me when I held his entire team inside. He knocked us all off the map and teamkilled them all.
😭😭😂😂😂😂😂
Can they get banned for that?😂
So far my biggest complaint is that 2 sec lock out after using some abilities. Just feels sluggish.
I feel that and the hammer throw to be the biggest issues, he definitely needs more cc if isn't going to have a dedicated defensive/healing ability.
@@flaming7488definitely needs the throw to be quicker. The rest is fine on cooldown
my favourite tank so far is gotta be peni, man it's fun shutting down ults especially when the ability cooldown is so fast 😂
Scarlet Witch flying towards the team with her ult and you just web her. God Peni is so dang fun
Honestly I wouldn't play Peni but she is so good as a tank. Her kit is insane. I respect any Peni main
You get 100 armor for every hammer charge you use, the last ability using all 3 at once idk why there’s no tooltip for the hammer charges tho
perfectly timed fard here 9:46
4:33 "MY THING'S SO SMALL"
It's alright Punch size doesn't matter
Counterpoint 9:53
Love that Travis Willingham and Liam O'Brian voice characters in this game.
I KNEW LIAM WAS STRANGE BUT IS TRAVIS THOR?
@@honeybirb3283 And Dr. Doom
AND?!?!
@@honeybirb3283 yep he voices either one or both Dooms
Pretty sure Yuri Lowenthal is voicing Spidy as well. His voice is super recognizable.
Useing thorforce gives you armor, and during ult charge up, enemys suffer damage
Is that armor or overhealth?
@@FrostyzZ311
It’s overhealth, he just mistakenly refers to it as “Armor”
I noticed that during the second fight, he cast his Ult and the Hela under him died from a lightning bolt.
Thor Dr Strange Ult combo, dr strange locks everyone down so that they can't esacpe the thor ult.
1:09 _“Wait it’s on a global cooldown. If I right click then everything else is on cooldown too.”_
I mean… hard to use hammer based abilities when it’s not in your hand.
His two brain cells just clacking together trying to comprehend, poor thing
This is such a tryhard comment that makes no sense. When you dash, he still has his hammer. His F doesn’t even need his hammer and his throw is so fast that his cooldowns are longer than the return of Mjornir
@@damianvaldez9390agree
@@damianvaldez9390yeah they've been cooking with most characters but they just never put Thor in the oven.
Thank God it's a beta
PSA, Land shark heals allies he swallows in his ult.
It’s so funny how he has the same damage as hulk in pretty sure
That’s really bad because at least hulk has the sustain to stay in the fight
@@damianvaldez9390Hulk has sustain?
Every hero in this game is OP, so: "And when everyone's super, No one will be.."
-Hope u like the clickbait comment
Thor ain't, it's just click bait.
All but poor Hulk
Clickbait comment.
"It worked i guess"
Thor is the most dogshit hero in the game actually
Thor ain’t OP 😂 ITS FOR VIEWS
The fact that he has to manage ThorForce stack to get shield instead of having a designated skill for shield and health regen already put this hero at a higher skill ceiling for me. Putting him in tank will also bait people thinking he is tanky, but he is not. I have seen so many times in my games today where I just die instantly when I charge in, playing him like a brawler will have more success than diving into a group of 6 head first. Also I think it would be cool if he could right click again when Mjolnir is in the air so that he can to fly to it.
I think using combat to generate Overhealth rather than just having a “not die” button like Venom is a sound design for a melee Hero. Magik and Black Panther have similar mechanics, which are necessary because they need to dive head-first into the fray in order to get value. I think it would be boring if he had a “press button get overhealth” ability instead.
Also, broadly speaking, I wouldn’t recommend diving into a full team head-first with any melee Hero. Venom can get away with it because Symbiotic Resistance is broken in its current state, but Magik, Black Panther, and Spider-Man all have to use their mobility to single out targets in order to confirm kills. If any of them dive into a team, even with their survivability options, they’re gonna get rolled. Thor is no different, if you’re charging into a full team and paying for it, then try a less suicidal approach to your engagements 😂
Jeff is who Tahm kench wishes he saw in the mirror
Waiting for the Jeff video
I think they wanted all his abilities to have a very low cooldown and balanced his global cooldown and resource around it but he just seems slow and clunky. His movement speed is agonizingly slow (hence everyone being just slightly out of range of hammer swings), the cooldown stops you from doing any combos too quick (which is the job the resource is also supposed to do), and he seems just clunky.
If they sped him up a bit (either faster base speed, or a way to increase movement speed like the AOE or more speed with more stacks of Thorforce or something), increased his painfully slow movement speed while charging up his dash and during his ult, and decreased the global cooldown to somewhere like 0.75-0.5 seconds, I think he'd feel SO much better to play and from there they can add slight nerfs to compensate or just watch and see how people do with him.
He will get buffs in the future 100%
Thorforce=armor
why can't he fly .😭
He kind of can with L2
A flying tank? Do you have a death wish or something?
@@TheMinoriti3she should get to hover in the air for some overhead engages
@@manuellima9373 doctor strange?
Cause he's a tank is mainly why
Thorbiorn, God of Meatballs
Do mine ears peep Travis Willingham?
Yes he voices Thor and I think one of the Dr. Dooms
They gotta replace the dash with him goin into the air and crashing at a select location
I prefer how incredibly lore accurate the dash is
Thor feels so bad to play here is why:
when you hit his dash on enemies that are flying from below it does absoutely nothing no dmg no knockback
when his dash touches the smallest terrain it completely stops
his dash can only hit/push/damage only 1 person
without his f he does 0 dmg
you cant cancel your f and to dash away or right click to get shield even if you could there is a 2 second window where you can't use your abilities
his ult can't do damage to airborne enemies
janky hit detection on left click dash and right click
I expected nothing and still got dissapointed
*guy falling down the stairs Sound effect*: 14:13
For me thor is missing a basic lighting attack for range like a strike or something and maybe a block by spinning his hammer ?
Why not use the dash ability more often? U do not need to full charge it. It is good so stop one or more enemies doing damage to you (for a short period of time), for closing the distance, and makes you slightly harder to hit?
I feel like you are underusing the dash significantly, its on a two second cooldown, knocks people away. I think the move is start the fight with thorforce since you have 3 hammer charges from the start, chunk someone go in with dash, build up thorforce dash out (cause low cd, like really really low cd) thorforce at range and go back in.
Or all in with dash, thorforce at melee range, use shields to survive the focus that you will get due to thorforce at close range, dash out.
The throwing hammer ability seems pointless, probably useful for poke when no thorforce up or you dont want to go in.
1, 2, 3, hammer
Feels like he should gain free flight when in awakened mode
i think thor should get an ability from a team up that costs 2 thor force
remove thorforce and replace his E ability with another movement ability and I think he could be a very fun movement tank like doomfist
He needs more damage with his melee, it has short range and thats Mjolnir!
Thor is so GOOD but only if he has a healer focused on him
“My things so small!!”
Is 8 days enough time to reach tier 42? I’m tier 14 and have finished all challenges
I haven’t been keeping up with this game but does anybody know if it has an official release date?
It will likely release as a open beta in December-ish
@@JoshyWashy0 thank you! Game looks awesome
@@JoshyWashy0Incorrect the next summer is estimated release.
@@Peanuggie I said open beta
@@Peanuggie a closed beta test but everyone can download and play
Thor is strong, he just isn't Venom. Like a Hulk or Magneto bubble puts him near base Venom level, but you can also use those to make Venom literally unkillable.
They nerf Venom, you'll see more Thor.
I m here to thank the guy who didn t redeem his game key.
Thanks to him I won and I have to say, I m loving the game so far.
It's time for you to write a book of feedback on Thor
Does he wear destroyer armor?
jeff seems good until you get focused when you ult since being underground doesnt protect you
thor is so underwhelming but jeff is very cool
sooo... doomfist??
When will they add mole man 😔
Jeff is so adorable
123......HAMMER
The prince of pride
is it supposed to look like overwatch?
Complains about being slightly out of range, ignores his gap cloaser and spams hammer throw
Thor seems ok
Wanda Can Pure Chaos all over me.
4:30 me fr
Remember your 123Hammer.
I swear new gamers need these guides yall have lost brain cells lol
Not this guide though. Lol, dude was not playing thor right in the least. 1 2 3 Bonk. Just swinging at air and poking every two seconds with hammer toss instead of using dashes to be sticky.
This guy has no shame in his clickbait title 😂
his ult feels like bunz to use
Man theyre already running out of ideas for ults. At least jeff was cool.
1 2 3 🔨
Is that Azaan?
It's funny that you call him OP but literally everyone else calls him underpowered and bad. He's my main though and I don't know what those guys are smoking. I get tons of kills etc.
"his biggest weakness is being slightly out of range" No, lol not even close. You need to use your shift charge ability instead of your hammer throw because of the global cooldown. Just tap the shift and you have a dash every two seconds. Dash with auto attacks and building hammer charges is way better than chasing people around mid range poking them every two seconds with a hammer throw. Derp.
Click bait everyone = dislike
Thor is not even close to being OP and falls over, legit needs to be pocketed by both healers, fail clickbait fail content creator
He literally got MVP as Thor on every one of these games. He's the only creator I've seen make a Thor video who actually pays attention to managing Thorforce correctly. If you play him correctly, Thor passively generates 50 shield per second infinitely while also dealing a bunch of damage and being mobile with infinite dashes (which also briefly cc/interrupts enemies hit by it).
Everyone who has said thorn is weak I've watched them play him poorly. They don't manage Thorforce correctly and they don't generate infinite shields. Then they whine that they don't feel like a tank.
I'm praying Ultimate Thor is a completely different character from Thor. This character design is really dogshit.