Hero Me Gen 6 vs Gen 5 - What's new, what's different and should you switch?

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  • Опубликовано: 12 дек 2024

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  • @Crosslink3D
    @Crosslink3D  2 года назад +3

    GIVEAWAY IS OVER! Congratulations to Manel Agualuza Tanqueiro from Portugal for winning a pack of 50 threaded M3 inserts from 3DJake!
    Check out Hero Me Gen 6: www.prusaprinters.org/prints/39322-hero-me-gen6-master-suite
    Become a Patron of Andrew: www.patreon.com/MediaMan3D
    M3 Thread Inserts on Amazon: geni.us/m3insert
    M3 Thread Inserts on 3DJake: geni.us/m3insert3djake

  • @MediaMan3D
    @MediaMan3D 2 года назад +28

    Thanks for the great overview of the Hero Me Gen6! There will be more updates to generation 6 in the next few days including better airflow ducting for all the part cooling ducts as well as additional printer models and direct drive/hotend combinations supported. Note for everyone, all the Gen6 parts are backward compatible with Gen5 and earlier generations.

  • @FilamentStories
    @FilamentStories 2 года назад +7

    I know not everyone likes the Patreon model but I also like to support creators, be it for content, models, or products. Very clear video, and hooray for threaded inserts!

    • @MediaMan3D
      @MediaMan3D 2 года назад +4

      Thanks for supporting creators via any method possible. All my Hero Me Gen1-6 parts are open source, the STLs are free. All I ask for support (which is completely optional) is to cover the effort I put in for the documentation and direct support I provide to users of the Hero Me via Patreon.

  • @marijnvandongen4835
    @marijnvandongen4835 2 года назад +3

    hated fumbling with those m3 nuts! This looks like a good itteration and a great video breaking it down. subscribed!

  • @adamarzo559
    @adamarzo559 2 года назад +3

    I really love the clean look that the brass inserts give prints.

    • @MediaMan3D
      @MediaMan3D 2 года назад

      Yes, true! And they make assembly and maintenance much easier.

  • @CharmPeddler
    @CharmPeddler 2 года назад +1

    Perfect timing for me. I'm literally halfway through printing the parts for the sixth gen right now.

  • @Dingo89
    @Dingo89 2 года назад +4

    Honestly, I've gotten so much use out of Andrew's design, that it feels very justified to spend a small amount to support his work and get the guide. It's by far my favourite duct system.

    • @MediaMan3D
      @MediaMan3D 2 года назад

      Thank you for your recommendation and support!

    • @Dingo89
      @Dingo89 2 года назад

      @@MediaMan3D my pleasure. There's a lot of backlash surrounding the PDFs being behind a pay wall. Personally I think it's bred from people being so used to free things from places such as thingiverse.

    • @MediaMan3D
      @MediaMan3D 2 года назад +5

      @@Dingo89 I know you get it. But for those reading this who don't... All my Hero Me Gen1-6 parts are open source, the STLs are free. My 3D printer knowledge on the design and use of part cooling systems, the support I provide, and the documentation I spend hundreds of hour on, are not free. I just could not afford keep up giving away my time for all the thousands of support requests I have received and answered for free over the past 3 plus years. I don't think that $2 is too much to ask to help cover the thousands of hours I have dedicated to creating the Hero Me master suite cooling system. All I ask, from those who can, is to support me via Patreon (or other giving systems) to help me afford to dedicate the time and effort I put in to continue to improve the Hero Me ecosystem, the documentation I create, and the direct support I provide to users of the Hero Me via Patreon. For those who are familiar with how their 3D printer is assembled, are comfortable disassembling the hotend and X carriage, and/or don't want to spend any $ to support me, the Hero Me Gen5/6 systems STL files are named in a way that with not much effort, the parts can be selected, printed, and installed on a printer without my docs. In some scenarios it will be a kind of puzzle to assemble, but I guess those folks like a small challenge to save a couple bucks.

    • @Dingo89
      @Dingo89 2 года назад +2

      @@MediaMan3D it's an excellent system and I've enjoyed seeing the evolution of it throughout the generations. Super excited for the magnet edition. Keep up the awesome work and thank you for dedicated so much time, not just to the design and documentation, but to the support of users of Hero Me.

    • @user-yk1cw8im4h
      @user-yk1cw8im4h 2 года назад +1

      imagine github locking up their documentation portion…

  • @marklyon2633
    @marklyon2633 2 года назад +1

    Subscribed. Awesome video. Glad Mediaman shared this video on Patreon. HMG6 is an amazing system that supports almost every setup out there. It takes a bit to pick the correct parts and print them but the performance is worth it 👍

  • @DarshanRayate1
    @DarshanRayate1 2 года назад +1

    Form last month my ender 3v2 was without filament cooling fan because it's vent was wrapped and I didn't find proper attach ments for centrifugal fan i will print this parts
    thanks for video 😄

  • @MattJonesYT
    @MattJonesYT 2 года назад +2

    You can just superglue the m3 nuts in place. That's less difficulty than heating up and melting plastic with threaded inserts so I don't really think it's an improvement since it means having to buy threaded inserts whereas I already have a lot of m3 nuts. Next time I do a cooler fan print I'll be looking elsewhere.

    • @MediaMan3D
      @MediaMan3D 2 года назад

      This is why the Hero Me Gen5, and prior generations, are still available on Thingiverse. There are thousands of users who have printed and installed the Hero Me Gen5 with no issues. The thing about the Gen5 that I can not compensate for is the variances in size of all the M3 nuts that are manufactured by many different vendors, compounded by how a given 3D printer is setup and dialed in to print correctly (no over extrusion, under extrusion, X/Y belt tension, or slicer settings, etc. etc.) which when not properly configured can result in that the captive slots in the Hero Me Gen5 parts are either too large or too small for the M3 nuts a user has. This is also why the Hero Me Gen 6 was created (among many other improvements) to eliminate any nut fitment problems that some Gen5 users have encountered.

    • @MattJonesYT
      @MattJonesYT 2 года назад

      @@MediaMan3D Thanks for making Hero Me, it is quite an excellent system. One potential improvement is to make the direct drive mounts a single unit because the versions such as the sideways Direct Drivinator end up flexing and causing blobby prints. I have a remix on thingiverse titled 'Rigid HeroMe 5 Direct Drive Thumb Mount Ender 3 Dual Gear Extruder' which shows a design I used so that there is no flex. Regarding m3 nut types, if the design can specify a certain type of threaded insert then it can specify a certain type of m3 nut so overall I don't think that's a factor.

    • @MediaMan3D
      @MediaMan3D 2 года назад

      @@MattJonesYT What you are requesting is one of the key new features of the Hero Me Gen6 system. There are 40 new Direct Drive Base files for all the popular hotend/direct drive combinations. The direct drives mount directly to the Hero Me Base to eliminate flex from retractions and provide the shorted filament path.

  • @williamwiese9963
    @williamwiese9963 11 месяцев назад

    Just ordered my😂 twin 5015 blowers. Great video.

  • @Cheeky_Goose
    @Cheeky_Goose 2 года назад +1

    Hello Crosslink, I noticed you guys were using longer heat inserts than what MediaMan3D listed in his guide. Are those M3 x 5.7mm Long x 4.6mm OD heat inserts? It seems MediaMan3D designed Gen 6 to use 4mm-5mm long inserts, but that specific size is very rare on Amazon.

  • @benjenkins183
    @benjenkins183 2 года назад

    I guess I could simply drill out my Gen 5 mounting holes and replace with the threaded inserts quicker than printing a new part?

  • @Supperconductor
    @Supperconductor 2 года назад +3

    It's too bad that a recurring payment is required. I'd be happy to pay once and be done with it. Unfortunately I found some of the parts to be poorly designed and didn't fit my application.

    • @Supperconductor
      @Supperconductor 2 года назад

      @@thai9503 I know it's a free download, but the bottom line is the parts don't fit well. I'm happy to pay ANYWAY if the parts are well designed.

    • @Supperconductor
      @Supperconductor 2 года назад +1

      @@ileksoku If the models worked for me, sure.

    • @MediaMan3D
      @MediaMan3D 2 года назад +1

      @@thai9503 While all my publicly posted Hero Me STLs are open source, my knowledge and documentation is not. For those who are familiar with how their printer is assembled, are comfortable disassembling the hotend and X carriage, and/or don't want to support me for $2, the Hero Me Gen5/6 systems STL files are named in a way that with not much effort, the parts can be selected, printed, and installed on a printer without my docs. I do send DMCA takedown notices to those websites (or their hosts) who post my copywrite content (my documentation) without permission.

    • @MediaMan3D
      @MediaMan3D 2 года назад +1

      @@Supperconductor Let me know what fitment problem you have had, maybe I can help.

    • @MediaMan3D
      @MediaMan3D 2 года назад

      @@thai9503 Someone who pays $2 has rights to use it for themselves. This does NOT grant them the right to republish my copywrited content. So, while I can't prevent (up front) people from posting my docs, I can have it taken down, via the DMCA notice. Most people do the right thing.

  • @futuremapper_
    @futuremapper_ 2 года назад

    When can we expect the next video on the gen6 for choosing parts?

  • @avejst
    @avejst 2 года назад

    Great intro to the HERO ME.
    Is the base design the same?
    Thanks for sharing your experience with all of us 👍 😀

    • @MediaMan3D
      @MediaMan3D 2 года назад

      Besides the move to the use of M3 threaded inserts, the Hero Me Gen6 base design has a mount for an ADXL345 accelerometer for use with Klipper firmware, as well as improved ducting for cooling the hotend heat sink. All the mount points on the Gen6 base are the same as for Gen5 and earlier, to provide backward compatibility of Hero Me parts and the hundreds (now over 600) of community remixes and new add-ons.

  • @Lassekongo24
    @Lassekongo24 2 года назад

    Hello! Your videos are so good! Helped me a lot. Have you thinking about making a anet evolution? I would like to try making one with my prusa i3 that is just standing in a corner in my hobby room.

  • @LuckyPrinter
    @LuckyPrinter 2 года назад

    As always very informative👍

  • @MetalheadAndNerd
    @MetalheadAndNerd 2 года назад +2

    Too bad that they still mount the blowers with their axle in parallel to the x axis. This wears out the bearings quickly. I went through a couple of blowers before I designed adapters to turn them by 90° around the z axis.

    • @MediaMan3D
      @MediaMan3D 2 года назад +1

      I have 10 printers that have the Hero Me Gen5 and now Gen6 with dual 5015 and 4020 fans that have never failed over thousands of hours printing across the past 3 plus years. Of the many thousands of users of the Hero Me systems, yours is only the 2nd complaint I have received where an association of a failed fan is made to the orientation of the fans. What I use and recommend are high quality brushless, sealed, dual ball bearing radial blower fans. Sunon and Delta make very high quality fans, but are often hard to find at 24v (and they are more expensive). Most of my printers use Winsinn brushless, sealed, dual ball bearing 5015 fans, which are no more expensive than the common fans that are available, and they work great.

    • @MetalheadAndNerd
      @MetalheadAndNerd 2 года назад

      @@MediaMan3D I had different fans from several Chinese brands I don't recognize. The market for 24V 5015 radial fans seems to be small. I guess most people don't complain to you the same way I didn't complain to you.

  • @carlosrivas3440
    @carlosrivas3440 Год назад

    muy buen video no logro conseguir la configuracion correcta para mi ender 3v2 con hotend de stock y bmg,

  • @marine1718
    @marine1718 2 года назад

    Why not a mout for smart filament sensor in direct drive?

  • @thai9503
    @thai9503 2 года назад +1

    Selling complete builds now!

  • @Pitagora3
    @Pitagora3 Год назад

    Please tell me the name of the program you use for 3D viewing, which can be seen at 1:10 - 1:19 min of this video.
    Thank you.

    • @Crosslink3D
      @Crosslink3D  Год назад

      That's Microsoft's 3D Viewer App (found in the Microsoft App Store in Windows 10)

  • @joecnc3341
    @joecnc3341 Год назад

    Vielen Dank! Liked-Subscribed-Notified. Great videos and I'm going to add a HeroMe on my Crealty Ender, and support the inventor. What orange filament are you using?

    • @Crosslink3D
      @Crosslink3D  Год назад +1

      Thanks! I am using Prusament PETG orange. Same as they use to print all their printer parts 😉

    • @joecnc3341
      @joecnc3341 Год назад

      @@Crosslink3D Vielan Dank, Daniel. I just found your channel, and am really enjoying watching all of the modifications that you have made. Thank You for such good, instructive videos. Vielan dank, und mit Freundlichen Gruessen, Von Romeo, Michigan, USA.

  • @rickyyym
    @rickyyym Год назад

    Are you going to do one on the 7?

    • @Crosslink3D
      @Crosslink3D  Год назад

      Eventually yes, currently I'm really focusing on getting my projects done and keep printers in a working state.

  • @snowpoo8706
    @snowpoo8706 2 года назад +2

    the documentation is pretty atrocious ... confusing, hard to follow, very incomplete

  • @jvcjbl
    @jvcjbl 2 года назад +1

    Link to those threaded adapters please

    • @Crosslink3D
      @Crosslink3D  2 года назад +1

      I've added Amazon and 3DJake links in the video description. Thanks for the hint!

    • @MediaMan3D
      @MediaMan3D 2 года назад +1

      The spec for the threaded inserts is: M3 4.6mm OD (outer diameter) by 4mm length (3mm-5mm lengths are compatible). The M3 inserts that are 5.7mm in length will not work for all Hero Me Gen6 setups as the may prevent some hotends from fitting in the Hero Me Base. These M3 threaded inserts are the same ones that are spec'd for use in Voron 2.4 kits.

  • @ronm6585
    @ronm6585 2 года назад

    Thanks

  • @Printed_Visionz3D
    @Printed_Visionz3D 2 года назад

    Only thing I don't like about this system are the ducts, wish, they looked cleaner.

    • @MediaMan3D
      @MediaMan3D 2 года назад

      I don't really know what you mean by 'cleaner', is it a subjective comment, or something else? There is a big update to the Hero Me Gen6 coming in the next few days that is specifically for the part cooling ducts. All the ducts have been redesigned with smoother ducting and larger duct tips to increase CFM (airflow) for better part cooling. The duct tips angle has also been refined to direct the airflow to the part below the nozzle. There will also be versions of all the part cooling ducts to use with the Micro Swiss DD kit, and another full set to support hotends with long heater blocks, like the E3D Volcano and the new Phaetus Rapido UHF.

  • @gglovato
    @gglovato 2 года назад

    unfortunately if you have a weird printer(i have a tronxy one) these kind of mods are extremely hard to place without a lot of extra work or parts

    • @MediaMan3D
      @MediaMan3D 2 года назад +1

      I have a gantry adapter nearly ready to publish (in the next couple of days) that supports the Tronxy X5SA. Beyond what the Gen6 supports now, there are also many more printers supported via the remixes and add-ons that others have published on Thingiverse and elsewhere. The Hero Me Gen6 can be added to almost all printers with just a remixed gantry adapter. I also encourage users to request support for printer models that I don't yet have covered. It speeds the process up significantly if you can locate a published STEP or STL file for the X carriage of the printer you want supported.

  • @glenncol
    @glenncol 2 года назад

    What should this be printed in?

    • @Crosslink3D
      @Crosslink3D  2 года назад +1

      You may use PLA but PETG is better and more temperature resistant

  • @D.TH.87
    @D.TH.87 2 года назад

    Can someone please help me. I am looking for the parts for my ender 3 v2 with microswiss direct drive extrudor upgrade. I don't care if its hero 5 or 6. But i can not find the right parts. Maybe someone who made this can help me? Thank you.

  • @Pasha4ur
    @Pasha4ur 2 года назад +1

    Don't buy docs through patreon. That man even can't give link to video with assembly of 1 example. Links in docs only for old hero me 5.
    There is no even full files list on printed parts for my "supported" printer in it.

  • @LegeFles
    @LegeFles 2 года назад

    So many weird errors and design flaws in the hero me gen 6 base for cr10/ender.

  • @accuretti
    @accuretti 2 года назад +1

    I have driven smaller cars than that printhead.

  • @makewithmegma
    @makewithmegma 2 года назад

    🔥💕👍

  • @camenskycameron8413
    @camenskycameron8413 2 года назад +1

    First xd