So interesting! Hard to find such exhaustive information, even more concerning bmx. I would have loved to have such contents during my studies, thanks for sharing your knowledge! 👏
For anyone wondering if to switch to ti, I’ve rode ti spokes and elite driver for along time. Also rode normal steel spokes and driver for even longer in the past. Riding ti I feel you lose stability whilst just blasting quarters and jumps. You gain stability whilst doing whips and bars with ti. Really comes down to how you want to ride ! I love how ti makes your bike feel and it’s just as strong I’d say. Never blown out a ti back or front wheel (yet) Also great video nice to see something new !
As an avid mountain biker I found this very informative. Have you considered a vid that explores why carbon fiber isn't really used in bmx? I have a pretty good idea of why. A lot of it boils down to the same reasons he explained why Ti stems don't make sense. A lot of added cost to achieve the same characteristics that steel provides with only marginal gains.
@@freedomcaller Carbon does fantastic with direct impacts. It's abrasion that does it in. Majority of mountain bike frames are carbon. There's a trials rider on Santa Cruz that has some custom carbon frames. He's sending it down 20 stairs. Those frames cost so much to produce though that they aren't even offered to the public despite the moulds existing.
Some spindles and bolts would be mint. It’s funny how I can get a hardtail that you would see in Crankworx down to 17lbs (without titanium) but the average 4 peg, 2.4 tire, 9-9.5” rise 2 piece bar, 20.75/21”, freecoaster bmx will always weigh 25lbs.
when we compare the weight of bigger parts like spindles and cassette cogs (these as almost half the weight of the cromoly ones!), it really open my eyes, even with the extra money required, but smaller parts like bolts, since the weight loss would be minimal, doesn't seem like it's worth it. I've even seen aluminum seatpost clamps that are lighter than titanium ones! I know that a bike loaded with titanium parts would be a huge difference, but then again, I believe there's a perfect bike-weight for each rider. For example, I wouldn't feel comfortable riding something like a 7 kilograms/15-pound bike. Of course those 40-pound midschool bikes are just nonsense, but I feel my bike has the perfect weight for me now, and I have zero ti parts.
I have no issues with the ti spindles, bolts or cog drivers. I just wish there were ti cog drivers that are shimano compatible. The only thing keeping me away from the AC2 is that it doesn't have a ti driver option. I'd like to point out the ti SS cog driver I had since 2001 still rolls like new and cogs still fit tight!
Pretty sure I just got scammed by whoever posted the message below. This sucks, wish someone would have caught and delete it/blocked them before it reached me
Slightly related...had Ti Hardware throughout for last few builds, and have found the bolts hex's mis-shapen / strip 'fairly' easily! I don't know whether it's down to the material.... or the lack of quality of the brand that produces them... but either way, my Overall Ti experience, has not been too impressive. Weight / £££ savings aside - I may just stick with Cro-mo in future! Btw, i'm not some inexperienced bike mechanic, with crap tools etc.
40 percent lighter at the same strength. Or 40 percent stronger at the same weight. 19mm ti spindles make no sense. Going from 19mm chromo to 22mm ti can make sense. Sometimes same for 22mm chromo to titanium. Spindle bolts. Go aluminium. Lighter cheaper. Sprocket bolt. Spline drive free weight savings. Stem bolts hollow if you need cheap. Ti if you have money to spend.
Titanium is NOT half the weight. It is 40% lighter than steel. Not 100% lighter. You might USE less of it but it also has a very poor fatigue life, and when it does go it doesn't give you signs like chromoly. It's also very flexy if you use it too sparsely. Spindles are fine, but just look at titanium's history with frames and spokes....it's kind of a joke on BMX that comes around every 10 years or so.
my ike got busted up 6 months ago now I have to work as a construction worker house painter welder to buy parts but real bmx parts are way to expensive but I will build my bike again someday rip bmx good bye flatland butdoglas mc Arthur once said I shall return
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So interesting! Hard to find such exhaustive information, even more concerning bmx. I would have loved to have such contents during my studies, thanks for sharing your knowledge! 👏
Damn that was on point! Give this dude his own show please 🙌
As an ex machinist I totally agree! Titanium can be tricky to work with.
Well done guys that actually answers so many questions inside our sport!
For anyone wondering if to switch to ti, I’ve rode ti spokes and elite driver for along time. Also rode normal steel spokes and driver for even longer in the past.
Riding ti I feel you lose stability whilst just blasting quarters and jumps. You gain stability whilst doing whips and bars with ti. Really comes down to how you want to ride !
I love how ti makes your bike feel and it’s just as strong I’d say. Never blown out a ti back or front wheel (yet)
Also great video nice to see something new !
As an avid mountain biker I found this very informative. Have you considered a vid that explores why carbon fiber isn't really used in bmx? I have a pretty good idea of why. A lot of it boils down to the same reasons he explained why Ti stems don't make sense. A lot of added cost to achieve the same characteristics that steel provides with only marginal gains.
It probably doesn't do as well in impacts. Road racers that use CF would never drop thier bike down a 20 stair.
@@freedomcaller Carbon does fantastic with direct impacts. It's abrasion that does it in. Majority of mountain bike frames are carbon. There's a trials rider on Santa Cruz that has some custom carbon frames. He's sending it down 20 stairs. Those frames cost so much to produce though that they aren't even offered to the public despite the moulds existing.
This is everything I was looking for, thank you!
this guy knows his onions, nice vid :)
Profile rocks. Made in USA, baby!
Some spindles and bolts would be mint. It’s funny how I can get a hardtail that you would see in Crankworx down to 17lbs (without titanium) but the average 4 peg, 2.4 tire, 9-9.5” rise 2 piece bar, 20.75/21”, freecoaster bmx will always weigh 25lbs.
Ti it's just a status symbol basically letting ppl know you have more money than brain
when we compare the weight of bigger parts like spindles and cassette cogs (these as almost half the weight of the cromoly ones!), it really open my eyes, even with the extra money required, but smaller parts like bolts, since the weight loss would be minimal, doesn't seem like it's worth it. I've even seen aluminum seatpost clamps that are lighter than titanium ones! I know that a bike loaded with titanium parts would be a huge difference, but then again, I believe there's a perfect bike-weight for each rider. For example, I wouldn't feel comfortable riding something like a 7 kilograms/15-pound bike. Of course those 40-pound midschool bikes are just nonsense, but I feel my bike has the perfect weight for me now, and I have zero ti parts.
I love metal so much to learn
I have no issues with the ti spindles, bolts or cog drivers. I just wish there were ti cog drivers that are shimano compatible. The only thing keeping me away from the AC2 is that it doesn't have a ti driver option.
I'd like to point out the ti SS cog driver I had since 2001 still rolls like new and cogs still fit tight!
Good enough information good job
Great video! Thank you.
Awesome! Thank you for this!
Is this legit @OurBMX ?
Pretty sure I just got scammed by whoever posted the message below. This sucks, wish someone would have caught and delete it/blocked them before it reached me
So what did I win?
Slightly related...had Ti Hardware throughout for last few builds, and have found the bolts hex's mis-shapen / strip 'fairly' easily!
I don't know whether it's down to the material.... or the lack of quality of the brand that produces them... but either way,
my Overall Ti experience, has not been too impressive.
Weight / £££ savings aside - I may just stick with Cro-mo in future!
Btw, i'm not some inexperienced bike mechanic, with crap tools etc.
I'm 6'2" , 230 lbs. I trust profile cranks. I'm afraid of breaking peddal spindles. Any suggestions?
Could you guys please do an episode in Titanium Drivers vs Chromoly Driver durability?
Dang. I would love some Grade 5 6al4v Ti cranksets for my mtb. Cane creek only offers the softer Grade 9
Wow!!!
Thanks
I believe this guy. Stop questioning him haha
There is a clip of a dude sending a grass gap and he snapped his stem not shure where tho
Ti is just hype to normal pplz. =)
40 percent lighter at the same strength. Or 40 percent stronger at the same weight. 19mm ti spindles make no sense. Going from 19mm chromo to 22mm ti can make sense. Sometimes same for 22mm chromo to titanium.
Spindle bolts. Go aluminium. Lighter cheaper.
Sprocket bolt. Spline drive free weight savings.
Stem bolts hollow if you need cheap. Ti if you have money to spend.
Titanium is NOT half the weight. It is 40% lighter than steel. Not 100% lighter. You might USE less of it but it also has a very poor fatigue life, and when it does go it doesn't give you signs like chromoly. It's also very flexy if you use it too sparsely. Spindles are fine, but just look at titanium's history with frames and spokes....it's kind of a joke on BMX that comes around every 10 years or so.
my ike got busted up 6 months ago now I have to work as a construction worker house painter welder to buy parts but real bmx parts are way to expensive but I will build my bike again someday rip bmx good bye flatland butdoglas mc Arthur once said I shall return
There is a lot of folklore and misconceptions about titanium.
Chromoly is comparable in strength with titanium. Titanium doesn't rust though.
All that just to save like 500grams on your bike lol