I quite agree. When I visited that museum during my Scottish Road Trip in Summer 2017, I was quite difficult to get any decent photography due to this locomotive's position in the museum, facing smokebox-first towards the very edge and overlooking the two locomotives on ground-level.
The second floor must be really strong to hold a 40 ton steam engine, but if there was an earthquake powerful enough, I can see the locomotive would go right through the floor.
In my opinion it was an utter waste of money to have it up there, its hard to admire the engine in fullness, nice to see the sole slips coming along, Luke.
"When Heritage lines don't need a heavy, slow, obscure shunter" On one hand that's true of a lot of them, on the other hand, a lot of the small branch/industrial themed lines would surely love to run it... after they get the time, people, money, and resources to get through the backlog of maintenance and other ex industrial restoration projects...
Actually I have wondered what the only (or any) surviving G&SWR loco might be - the Port Line (Dumfries to Stranraer via Castle Douglas) has featured in several books (John Buchan's The Thirty Nine Steps; Freeman Wills Crofts' Sir John McGill's Last Journey; Dorothy L Sayers' The Five Red Herrings - and maybe others) - I'd thought that just maybe the lack of accurate films of any of these was perhaps due to the lack of the correct rolling stock(!). Then I found out that the Port Line was actually operated by the Caledonian...
So, The Next Sole SLIP will be on the Highland 'Jones Goods' Loco? It Has The Distinction As The First 4-6-0 Built in Britain and is on Display Right Below G&SWR No. 9..
How the heck did they even get that tank engine up there in the first place? And also, who's bright idea was is to leave it displayed in such a precarious position in the first place?
Its quite remarkable to see as you walk into the museum. They have an interactive display about the loco... and how it got up there (slowly and carefully with a constructed elevator btw)
I didn't even know there were any GSWR locomotives in preservation. The GSWR was very much the poor relation of the rival Caledonian, and after the 1923 grouping the LMS quite quickly introduced its own standard Compounds and 2P 4-4-0s to replace the GSWR's own-build express engines. These were readily accepted by the GSWR's locomotive crews as superior to anything they already had. Almost all the GSWR engines inherited by the LMS had gone by nationalisation, so by the time the preservation movement really got underway, there was nothing left. This loco only survived because it had been sold out of service to the NCB.
Preservationists can easily built a brand new LMS 2F Dock Tank locomotive from scratch by just studying and using this engine as a guided example for it's similar appearance, without the use of original blueprints, if they even wanted to.
Nice video as always, Chris. Have to say though, didn't that ending sound a bit harsh? I mean, I know there's those armchair wombles who think every preserved steam engine should be in steam regardless of their purpose or condition, but wasn't addressing them not-so-indirectly like that a big much? Or have these years traveling the nation to do SLIP and seeing the chin-wagging on Facebook made you a bit jaded, cold, or just fed up?
Just because I try to inject a bit of humour into my videos, doesn't mean I'm having a go. No need to take anything the wrong way, especially when I could have been more blunt.
Don't say that some people don't like it whenever a bad man goes out to machine especially whenever they can be their favorite like what you review on the E2
Everytime I rewatch this, it looks like #9 is on a throne, overlooking her lowly subjects. I just find that to be hilarious. 😆
What an... Interesting place for a steam engine...
Very interesting
Amazing she survived into the British railways era
wow... that tank engine being placed at such a ridiculous position. That made me laugh so much! anyways Nice Sole Slip Chris!
I quite agree. When I visited that museum during my Scottish Road Trip in Summer 2017, I was quite difficult to get any decent photography due to this locomotive's position in the museum, facing smokebox-first towards the very edge and overlooking the two locomotives on ground-level.
The National Coal Board didn't know what they had! Another of your insightful scripts Chris. Thanks.
The second floor must be really strong to hold a 40 ton steam engine, but if there was an earthquake powerful enough, I can see the locomotive would go right through the floor.
In my opinion it was an utter waste of money to have it up there, its hard to admire the engine in fullness, nice to see the sole slips coming along, Luke.
“What is the point of running a heavy slow obscured shunter when heritage railways don’t need... might as well take a hint.”
"When Heritage lines don't need a heavy, slow, obscure shunter" On one hand that's true of a lot of them, on the other hand, a lot of the small branch/industrial themed lines would surely love to run it... after they get the time, people, money, and resources to get through the backlog of maintenance and other ex industrial restoration projects...
Another Great Sole SLIP video Chris!
That engine reminds me of a LMS Fowler 2F dock tank
I'm surprised health and safety would allow you up there!
I come from just up the road from the bersham colliery near wrexham its amazing to see she is still about
such a great looking loco
Actually I have wondered what the only (or any) surviving G&SWR loco might be - the Port Line (Dumfries to Stranraer via Castle Douglas) has featured in several books (John Buchan's The Thirty Nine Steps; Freeman Wills Crofts' Sir John McGill's Last Journey; Dorothy L Sayers' The Five Red Herrings - and maybe others) - I'd thought that just maybe the lack of accurate films of any of these was perhaps due to the lack of the correct rolling stock(!). Then I found out that the Port Line was actually operated by the Caledonian...
its sad to see how underrated this engine is.
So, The Next Sole SLIP will be on the Highland 'Jones Goods' Loco? It Has The Distinction As The First 4-6-0 Built in Britain and is on Display Right Below G&SWR No. 9..
It's also the only surviving HR locomotive.
How the heck did they even get that tank engine up there in the first place? And also, who's bright idea was is to leave it displayed in such a precarious position in the first place?
They Put It Up There To Give A Clear View Of The Undersides of the Cylinders...
Its quite remarkable to see as you walk into the museum. They have an interactive display about the loco... and how it got up there (slowly and carefully with a constructed elevator btw)
they lowered it in through the roof..
@@EricH_1983they used a ramp and winched it up
So No9 looks very similar to a Fowler 2f
How much do you know about the 498 class? My friend has a 7 1/4" model of one built from works drawings, it currently looks like an exploded diagram
Interesting Sole Slip there. I never knew about that locomotive till now. Is it really the only engine of that rail line still around?
I didn't even know there were any GSWR locomotives in preservation. The GSWR was very much the poor relation of the rival Caledonian, and after the 1923 grouping the LMS quite quickly introduced its own standard Compounds and 2P 4-4-0s to replace the GSWR's own-build express engines. These were readily accepted by the GSWR's locomotive crews as superior to anything they already had. Almost all the GSWR engines inherited by the LMS had gone by nationalisation, so by the time the preservation movement really got underway, there was nothing left. This loco only survived because it had been sold out of service to the NCB.
Excellent job as usual.
somehow you just know Jonesy down there is thinking, "I hope to god No. 9 is as secure as they say it is!"
1:55 how and why?
THANK YOU!
Nice Sole SLIP Chris : ) I can't believe that locomotive is put way high up above the museum ground floor, how did there put it up there?
She was the first thing to be moved in from the old Kelvinhall museum, so that everything else could go in around it on the top floor
An excellent series of video clips.
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Preservationists can easily built a brand new LMS 2F Dock Tank locomotive from scratch by just studying and using this engine as a guided example for it's similar appearance, without the use of original blueprints, if they even wanted to.
Hello Chris Eden Green I said please can you make more sole slip RUclips videos about the only survivors of steam locomotives
Have you done any work on Baldwin Locomotive Works?
The tank engine is up on another level?! Hoo boy...
I think she should go back to wrexham to go on desplay at the coal mine where she worked or even be put back in steam.
looks like there's other possible subjects in this museum.
Just a friendly heads up, its pronounced Dal-rye not doll-ree. Pretty wee loco though
Very similar to the USA Dock Tank, which could be a coincidence. Nice colours this has.
driven a model of this engine
Couldn't she pulled back with a winch?
This kind of remindes me of the LBSCR E2
Terrible pronunciation of Dalry! it is 'Dall-rye' not Dollry.
oh dear, how sad, nevermind
Nice video as always, Chris. Have to say though, didn't that ending sound a bit harsh? I mean, I know there's those armchair wombles who think every preserved steam engine should be in steam regardless of their purpose or condition, but wasn't addressing them not-so-indirectly like that a big much? Or have these years traveling the nation to do SLIP and seeing the chin-wagging on Facebook made you a bit jaded, cold, or just fed up?
Just because I try to inject a bit of humour into my videos, doesn't mean I'm having a go. No need to take anything the wrong way, especially when I could have been more blunt.
Don't say that some people don't like it whenever a bad man goes out to machine especially whenever they can be their favorite like what you review on the E2
The Gswr is irish
Hey little Johnny! Want to see the G&SWR No. 9?
No.
Why not.
I am afraid of heights.
Isn't that Duck?
Kira Online Duck Is A GWR 57xx Pannier Tank...
he covered those back in 2013
Ferris Welker I've Seen That SLIP
Anyone else notice how similar this looks to thomas?
As soon as I saw this engine I just thought Thomas the tank engine
Anyone else think this engine looks like Thomas the Tank Engine?
Looks like a scottish thomas
Edit: no offense to critics btw it was a joke
Christ that think looks like it could be destroyed if a fat person ran into it