A sigma rises to the occasion and does not fail in circumstances where he chooses to excel. There is a look in the eyes of a Sigma that can not be replicated by anyone other than a true Sigma. When you see this look, you know that something truly amazing is about to happen.
@@Daniel12.4Ministry As the video states, Id rather look at their actions, attitude and behaviors, not the eyes. They can be deceiving. Sigmas fail at the same rate as others, the difference is they get back up, and dont really care about your approval.
Was called too old at 50! Started training in crumbling garage lifting rocks doing PUSH UPS on paint cans pull UPS on beams got ripped af at 52 years old!!!
the key to these sigma videos is to not read the comments section because everyone is just claiming to be sigma, even the ones that have some kind of passive self-celebatory seemingly throwaway comment. just enjoy the observations made in these videos, they're very accurate. great video, keep em coming, they're very interesting
Yeah but honestly I'm finding these type of videos themselves quite pretentious and self congratulatory. It's like we're true awesome sigmas, and everyone else wants to pretend they're like us. There's a real dearth of humility in the overall tone.
@@davec3651 Some of them are exceptional and realize exactly what you're saying, but they are fairly rare. I think it good to see the traits as described, and realize it's not as unshakeable as they pretend. Instead of a sigma would never do this, or always do that, think of it as he has great tendencies to do things those ways instead. As well, that could translate just into, he's more that way than other personality types. It's actually rather easy to exaggerate sigma tendencies, simply because we're that much of an enigma from the hierarchal bunch. Myself, I'm not wholly sigma, and I actually doubt anybody ever is, but I accept that there has to be some sigma's more complete than myself to meet type description. The key trait is individualism, which frequently will defy type, at least in some way. For example, I conducted an experiment of the last 3-4 years that proved to myself I could talk to ANY woman, any time I have something on my mind to state or ask. One of the key anti-sigma things I did to accomplish this, was I took the total initiative, and my subjects were women that were entirely unknown to me. For the sigma trait of more knowledge, in this case, I had to step into taking the initiative with women, which almost always is considered a non-sigma trait. It was actually very refreshing to see how taking the initiative changes things, but wasn't the purpose of it at all, but a happy bi-product. It also made me solid on just how you can avoid small talk every single time (hint - take the initiative without resorting to small talk yourself. Over the course of a longer discussion, this, of course, likely would be more difficult).
In a group discussion, Alphas tend to want to dominate the room, and Betas tend to be timid and will speak to back up the Alpha. Sigmas are usually silent, not from having nothing to say, but to absorb and process not just the verbal information, but also the non-verbal. In their silence, Sigmas allow their eyes to wander and read the room-the group's facial expressions, posture, and even their ticks, all the while listening to what the Alpha speaker is saying. From assessing these multitude of things in as quickly as a 10 seconds, the Sigma can then ascertain whether or not the Alpha speaker will reason with a rebuttal, or if the rest of the group is even interested in what's being discussed. The Sigma will ask himself, "Is this discussion even worth my time?" It's this very reason why the first person to usually to leave a circle of discussion is the Sigma.
I have found that the older I get, I have finally given myself full permission to not be guilted for staying away from my family drama. Even those family members I am close to, seeing them more than once a month is just too much. I love projects and like to talk about them with my closest friends. Most things that I am interested in are very edge case which must be boring for them, so I have to dumb it down.
All these videos make it sound like being a sigma is the coolest thing in the world. However all us real sigma know its actually a giant pain in the ass.
Pale Rider with Clint Easrwood as "the preacher"was an awesome movie because it showed how dangerous a quiet man with a violent past couldl be.... One of Eastwoods best movies... The ending is unforgetible... A true Sigma male explanation. Take time out to watch this gem of a movie..
I recently encountered the term 'Sigma male' and was taken aback. It made me grateful that no one knew me. I can recall how humorous it was to see guys try to act tough, exude Alpha male energy, and draw attention during my teens, twenties, and thirties. That piece of paper in your girl's hand was my number.
Same. I've seen the term used in tik Tok and decided to look into it. What it boils down to is the sigma is calculating and calm with a level of integrity and precision. Peace is all he wants and he won't let anything destroy that. Either way it goes he will always maintain to the best of his ability because he has no one but himself. And the ones he care for he is there backbone. Sigma is very interesting. The quiet and commanding one.
People who believe living the Lone Wolf/Sigma lifestyle is cool because the definition of "Sigma" makes one feel like a total Badass.... HEAVILY think again. Conquering extreme dark days and lonely night of Isolation alone in your head, not an easy feat. Overcoming the breakaway of the world around you and accepting blissful Solitude, takes every ounce of your strength. Sigma life is not simply: You vs the World. It's You vs Yourself vs the World.
"People who believe living the Lone Wolf/Sigma lifestyle is cool because the definition of "Sigma" makes one feel like a total Badass.... HEAVILY think again." - I'm preparing a video on this topic, thanks for sharing this!
@cuchulainn3474 @cuchulainn3474 My statement wasn't describing me. As for telling others that this side of life isn't the badass fantasy we see on TV or those that show a macho side of Lone Wolves in films. With that being said, you have me all wrong. Your upbringing is a factor of how you interact with the world, as well as yourself. How one treats themselves is a reflection how the world treated them. Being an introvert, studying to gain wisdom, being on your own and growing your own food means what to the average person? That at some point you got tired of the way you were, how Society has shied away from what it once was, Family traditions are broken, Friendship is hard to trust and you wanted an escape. You said you 52. Well I'm 38. So we both understand the insanity this world is molding itself into. But if you want an in depth view of my life showing that I've fully embraced the Lone Wolf life, I have a video on my channel from 2019, before the term 'Sigma' was popular to the public. I don't want views. I don't want subscriptions. But how you described yourself is no different to other Lone Wolves. At the end of the day the average world could care less of how you carry yourself in life and that is fine with Lone Wolves. Because we don't care either about the average world.
Didn't even know what a Sigma was until earlier today. Surprised at how much I can relate to it though. I have all of these traits apart from maybe the adaptability one which depends on different situations for me. Wouldn't say I embrace change but I'm always growing as a person.
In fact a true Sigma doesn't know that he's a Sigma until he checks this RUclips video from earlier today. A true Sigma diligently waits for such a tim as this to discover that he too is a Sigma because it is so relatable because every person who wants to be a Sigma makes a public proclamation that why "A true Sigma" is including whatever their best attributes are so that a Sigma is all men who have their best attributes.
The trick is to “give” them just enough attention that satisfies them. But they’re not really in control. Adaptability is crucial for survival. And I don’t mean subordinate to them, but just a small dose of attention to make them feel good. It’s called empathy.
Thanks for that advice, I really appreciate it The position I am experiencing this is a bit more fortunate, I have the luxury of disregarding them because we're both at the lowest hierarchy of the company, I could choose to play their game but I won't, I'm going to keep my head down and keep on doing what i was doing anyway t. we're both croupiers at a casino @@americaneconomist86
"This isn't a trait that can be faked but a characteristic that is lived." 8:56 Sigma means you have done the hard struggle. Not a trait but earned through tough times.
What this and all videos like this should start out by saying is: No person is a perfect archetype of a personality. We are all blends. Some will lean more one way or another but we are all blends AND those blends are subject to change due to age, health, life events, personal situations and so on. Just like taking the Myers and Briggs personality test only reflects how you feel about things at that moment. And at just that moment only. Time, life and situations change us all. No one stays the same and as we age, personalities will change. Videos like this should be used as a guide not as a hard and set rule.
Can a Cheetah change its spots? You are not a sigma. A sigma learns and grows but cannot change his spots. You misunderstand what a sigma is. It has nothing to do with "feelings". It is about who you are deep down inside. Only God can change that. And He doesn't. He made us to be who He wants us to be, yet wants to mold each of us. He will only sharpen that what needs to be sharpened and squash that which stands in His way once a sigma is submitted to Him. It has zero to do with feelings. Perhaps you are an INTJ T . That T at the end stands for turbulence. Your post is turbulent. Feelings are not reality but an INTJ T thinks they are. You will never be an INTJ A. Those 2 are night and day different and can never be on the same page. An INTJ T is not a true sigma. And perhaps that is what you are FEELING.
Thank you. The clearest logical conclusion here. Given the time of day, environment, mood, I can be Alpha, Sigma, Beta, or whatever. Labels limit free expression.
One caveat is that personality changing over time _can_ be a "reversion to self". In our youth, we're trying to find out who we are, and some have greater challenges in that than others (example: my Dad was VERY Alpha, and it took me a long time to be able to resist his energy and find my own). As we mature we can "settle down" into our real self. Another note is that even those who do seem to fit a given type perfectly may not manifest the traits of that type the way they're shown in videos like this. But your main point is true - these kinds of videos are good as tools for self-understanding, but shouldn't be taken too far.
Standing out without trying to stand out ... I (likely all of us) know several people who got their first tattoos and/or piercings in order to stand out ... and now I end up standing out for not having any tattoos or piercings
I do know people that get tattoos for attention. I was in high-school when I got my first, nobody but my best friend knew. We even had to go to the next state over, as it was still illegal in the state I lived in at the time. I ended up with 4 before anyone other than my closest few friends. My grandmother of all people noticed something under my white shirt lol. I've had many hours of work since, and while I don't mind a short explanation from time to time, I get annoyed when people ask to see more than they can see casually.
“Stoic” is “Sigma” without so much of the the “dark” side, and it is “Spiritual” without so much of the “Religiousness”. Works better for me, but I have a long ways to go ! My relationships are improving and as a result, I am no longer avoiding them and lying to myself that my “Loner” ways were a deliberate choice that “I” made !….
If there is one undeniable fact about the sigma, it is that he is truly aware that life is God's gift to him. What he does with his life is his gift to God
I have been a sigma all my life. It is not the act, it shows in your lifestyle. I owned a Honda NSX and drove it on the racetrack without anybody knowing it in my extended family. Then I bought a totally average car. I moved to Thailand and learned the language to find the love of my life and o boy, was I successful. I lived 20 years in a camping trailer, not because I didn't have money, but because I like the simplicity and flexibility of this lifestyle. Experience over possessions.
You can't fake always analyzing, thinking, and learning. Sometimes feels like an obessive driver. Every decision we make has been thoroughly though out for hours, days, weeks, months, or even years. The space and energy we require for our analysis would drive most people insane. I have always described myself as a social introvert and nobody is ever capable of understanding what I mean. I could care less about my "status" except for the drive to problem solve the situation. That is why we make great leaders. Most leaders want the praise and recognition for doing something. If they don't get that type of recognition, then they have no drive to do it.
@@Apxllxn When things are black and white, it's only a difference between degrees. I'm not here to school you. If you are a sigma, read between the lines and then accept yourself, my man.
If i wasn't so outgoing id think i was a sigma... i have spent years by myself and I love being alone in my mind so much that I recently drove across America without listening to the radio once, i just enjoyed the drive 💯
Nice to know I'm not the only one that's done that (though mine was only east coast to Rockies). Though being outgoing doesn't mean you're not Sigma _at all,_ just that you're not purely Sigma. Then again, how can we insist that someone has to conform to all the Sigma characteristics to be a Sigma, when one of those characteristics is non-conformity? 😉
Sigma's see the pursuit of knowledge as collecting tools for solving problems not as a hammer to pummel others with to shame them. This is why a Sigma never stops pursuing knowledge no matter how old they get. It is because a Sigma is in constant pursuit of knowledge and understanding that they can be isolated and alone for longer than most and not feel lonely. The Sigma wants to keep their mind sharp and reflects on ideas trying to get past a simple understanding of concepts to the deep understanding that provides intuitive insight. They do this with whatever they become curious about which is what gives them their unique perspectives on everything from fields of science to politics and religion. A Sigma seldom agrees with the masses because the masses are content with being amused while a Sigma wants to truly know how the world works, how people are motivated to do what they do, how to get work done in their chosen profession to the highest degree of effectiveness. They do all of this quietly and deliberately avoid drawing attention to themselves. Often if the solve a major problem they will let others take credit for it to avoid the limelight. Not because they are timid and afraid but because solving the problem provides them with all the reward they require. Most of the time their employers do not really understand how valuable they are until they leave.
I've been called Mr.Twenty Questions. I never thought much about my inquisitive mind until somebody brought it to my attention. I have always had an inquisitive mind. One of the reasons I enjoyed college. It opened up a whole new world for me, though I have met people that lack an inquisitive mind, but are quick to lecture.
Sigmas are top of the food chain in the spiritual realm. If they apply thier spiritual power in everyday life, they can make anyone feel uncomfortable because they can sense fakeness, weakness and expose fake tough guys without even trying and those people sense the Sigma sees and knows. But if they come across another Sigma, the mutual respect is like no other. Sigmas are best to find a job that they work alone, own a business or two. maybe work with a small group. In large groups, Sigmas, like a lone wolf will often find him/herself fighting off the hyenas that naturally can't stand the fact that the Sigma is just too damn good.
Just stay in the background and listen, the answers are always there, bring the balance back in the situation, diplomacy is a friend to all, all food for thought, we never stop learning that’s everyone 👍 life is for experiencing, not being a slave to the so called norm 👍
I believe several of these things can be a part of the alpha as well and I don’t think it’s entirely black or white I know people as young kids have a very distinct class but as they mature and go from just doing life to trying to improve themselves they gradually adopt and adapt themselves thereby becoming a mixture of the 3 by learning self control. This is what some might call wiser experienced men. Who have learned from experience
This is a gamma male comment. Assuming that real leaders are insecure like you are. Anyone commenting on these videos is no Sigma or alpha. We just troll betas on here for fun.
From my point of view, alphas manage jang (and not jin) and betas yin (and not yang). This is the similarity. Sigmas manage both (yin and yang together) and this is the reason why they grow up later. If a man misses any of these two skills, he is insecure (as you have written).
@petrdostal3915 so I'm about as sure as a person can be that I'm a sigma when watching RUclips but then I'm sure everybody who watches this video thinks the same there may be a language barrier I don't know what you mean by (jin) n Jang) is that like( yin n yang) sigmas hold both sides of the coin there for are always content, " can't think of a better word for it at the moment) where as Alpha is always holding heads, beta, trails?
i have only recently learned about this sigma male arche type, it only came to my attention after multiple family members and friends applied this label to me. I'll say this for how i became here..... Years of abuse, physical, emotional, and mental. Growing up with every friend i ever made being turned against me by my family... this is not a healthy head space to live in, its a combination of survival traits earned through hard times, abuse and neglect. Aim for something more healthy, you don't want this. (if you want to train your brain to be more inline, try reading and practicing stoicism. Stoicism is what has gotten me through some of the worst experiences some one can go through)
Narcissists mimic Sigmas. If we reject their efforts to make us supply (we are the most prized type of supply), then we oftentimes become their scapegoat or target, their assigned nemesis.
I could easily spend a day fly fishing on a windless day with a couple of cold beers in the creel alone. Catching a fish is simply a bonus. Clears the mind thoroughly.
I send these videos to my wife....i think it has helped her understand what kind of man that i am. After 29 years, ive finally hit that sweet spot in mt marriage.
When the fight is with your wife about her betrayal... it's no petty issue! Maybe it it? If I'm done with her, I shouldn't care. I never cared about anyone leaving me before. And I tossed her out, I still feel restrained anger a week later.
No. It is innate and built in from childhood. It is the rarest personality type. So you and almost every dude on here just saw John Wick and wish they had a cool personality.
@@lifeisgoodskt It is a shame that Sigma personality is something that upon a pedestrial and used as a weapon without a rational approach. It is a nice example of that each valuable thing tends to turn into its opposition (when used unwisely).
It's a going with your gut thing. Often times my mind would tell me things seemed OK while at the same time my gut is twisting. The last time I failed to heed my intuition I dated a woman for 2 weeks then my gut said cut her lose so I did and felt an immediate peace inside. Then I talked to a buddy of mine and I let him talk me into giving her a chance. Although there were bright spots for 18 months but the confusion, stress and emotional pain was intense. That was over 20 years ago and I haven't disregarded my gut feelings since. It takes courage to follow your gut at first because there is no evidence for concern. It takes faith in yourself and to betray that faith harmful consequences follow.
no it's not, it is a human nature, as people have different personalities, you are born with it. Sigma males don't stress about little things because we understand life as a whole spectrum of existence.
Don't try to blend into groups, it's just a waste of time. The best thing you can do is help those who need it, deserve it and appreciate it. Never try to manipulate the laws of physics. It is not possible to. True adaptability is when you respect these laws. You need to know your own worth. It's all you'll ever have. And at the end of a long day, that's all that matters.
"A true Sigma doesn't think after he speaks. He speaks after thinking and then he speaks thoughtfully." This standard of what a Sigma is has always existed since the dawn of time and all Sigmas are born with this innate quality. I'm not making this up. This has always been a thing people.
Life is a such a blessing, especially when you know where you're going. I like to be in the shadows and strike at the right moment and right time. Everything is in your mind and will power. In all situations, you need to be a man and enjoy any challenges that come in front of you. I get a lot of energy when I am along by myself. I read books, compose music and I love sports. I do not know who I am, but one thing I know that there's true happiness when you have true purpose and constant growth towards perfection that will be beneficial to you and the people around you. Cheers. Just be yourself and never stop to improve to be the better version of yourself.
I guess all we want is to be interesting or at least interested in life. Which means we want to be unique and so we fantasize about achieving greatness by separating ourselves as much from the average as possible, to validate ourselves. We hope to be unique but fail to do so for the very reason that we need to do so, the societies in which we live do not accept us. The people in our lives do not want what is best for us, and everyone else seems to just harm us as much as possible, whenever possible. It seems like a one horse race because we are against all of them, bound by all of them and so unable to fight back since they outnumber us. Therefore we plan to just break free from the chains which they hold us in by committing the craziest acts possible, the most meaningful acts possible, so that we can leave afterwards, so that we can feel calm afterwards. But of course this is easier said than done and so we wallow in this world. We post montages online of characters who embody what we must embody to commit such crazy acts to escape this delirium. But hopefully some day all of us shall acquire what we need, hopefully we shall find what we are looking for.
It's not really a prize being a sigma. Just watch "Reacher". Likely on a smaller scale than Reacher, you'll still be dealing with corrupt, unprincipled, alphas your whole life. Also, most women will think you are weird because you never get lonely, you never get jealous, and you give them too much freedom.
I'm 55 with the energy and drive of a late 30s. Recently, in the past couple of years I started to listen about these so-called Sigma males. I have to say that most if not all the traits are genuinely there, but there's still one thing that bothers me and makes me question it, and is this, what if all these vids, talks and studies are nothing more than an exotic enticement of one's alter ego!??
Sigmas are made when they have to grow up healing themselves as kids. We've had time since we were young to analyze and figure out our emotions on our own. I'm happy my mother raised me the way she did.
Confident silence means people actually listen when you speak and remain silent when your point has been heard in full. In my experience its when rambunctious debate is going on and you kill the conversation with facts. Everyone goes silent like daddy just brought the lesson.
I as a Sigma with what I see going on in politics today, it all comes down to the truth. And the truth is that the wealthy should live off the ignorance of others to eventually rule over a society stricken with the bliss they created. The land of confusion. Consider what you gather. And on and on and on until you see what drives in success. Do not be not a road side salesman. And you should have your own material not a pocket full of plagiarism and lies to manipulate towards your own benefits or for one cause. Jealousy is what rules the societies. If I can't have it, no one else will. And ignorantly destroy a societal benefit.
I see a lot of things in this video that speak to me but I don’t see myself as a sigma I’ve determined that I as an individual don’t fit in a box I’m good with that
"To me sons of Sigmar! For the Empire!!" - Sigmar Priest :D Ok jokes aside, this is the first time I've heard of a "Sigma Male". Well, I'm definitely not a Sigma. I find such labels and the characteristics determined by them unrealistic and somewhat ridiculous.
Has a sigma it never ends well for anyone threatening myself whether today or decade from now , not bragging but I’ve encountered in work place alpha males whom regretted crossing someone not knowing whom but probably suspected it was me
Ya it reminds me of school days and how girls wanted to be blond, they always said its because they have more fun. Unfortunately being a sigma means you have the answers to correct the problems. Only no one wants to fix them.
Can someone be in more than one category, like sigma but also having traits of another, like caring about their family or trying to please a spouse? Or, can a sigma have a good sence of humor and make other people laugh?
I've never heard the word sigma before, but just thought I was crazy.. I've been told I'm to honest, and immediately thought why isn't everyone honest.
hey bro, it's ok, just focus on projects you enjoy and keep moving forward, you don't have to prove anything, just be a good guy and keep learning to protect yourself and those around you
I fit some of these the obscure music had me laughing because i have yet to meet someone in the UK who has heard of The Legendary Pink Dots, an Anglo/Dutch band formed in 1980 and started their success in 1983 after moving to the Netherlands. My at the time girlfriend who was older than me introduced me to them. I have chatted with one man in the US who's heard of them and has some of their stuff 70+ albums and i can't find a fan. Also rules don't really mean much to me and i've always been a non conformist, i do what i want to do when i want to do it.
Not sure what slot I fit into...but I have never been able to get exceited about Professional Sports...especially the NFK-I know a lot of people who get a great deal of pleasure by watching football games...I just get bored...why?
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A sigma rises to the occasion and does not fail in circumstances where he chooses to excel.
There is a look in the eyes of a Sigma that can not be replicated by anyone other than a true Sigma.
When you see this look, you know that something truly amazing is about to happen.
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@@Daniel12.4Ministry As the video states, Id rather look at their actions, attitude and behaviors, not the eyes. They can be deceiving. Sigmas fail at the same rate as others, the difference is they get back up, and dont really care about your approval.
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0:35 This is a lot of 'psyche stroking', I always avoid these videos, eh? Let's see what this one is saying?
Was called too old at 50! Started training in crumbling garage lifting rocks doing PUSH UPS on paint cans pull UPS on beams got ripped af at 52 years old!!!
Just checked your channel garageman BRUTAL training keep it up grandpa💪
Same here, 56. Better looking and in more shape now that I was in my 30s.
Respect to you but don't let these videos fool you You've always felt this way and you don't need some video to confirm it period
There are many videos on sigma but no sigma needs understanding to realize who they are.
That's inspiring man
"A good man is not a harmless man but a dangerous man that has it under control."
-Jordan Peterson
the key to these sigma videos is to not read the comments section because everyone is just claiming to be sigma, even the ones that have some kind of passive self-celebatory seemingly throwaway comment. just enjoy the observations made in these videos, they're very accurate.
great video, keep em coming, they're very interesting
Thanks! Glad you like them!
The comments are enjoyable and amusing at times, you can 'read' a person from very few words they write :)
@Ben-fh4mh right but Neanda is 💯% correct though and honestly has to be the realest comment on here, Video is definitely on point to the tee.💯
Yeah but honestly I'm finding these type of videos themselves quite pretentious and self congratulatory. It's like we're true awesome sigmas, and everyone else wants to pretend they're like us. There's a real dearth of humility in the overall tone.
@@davec3651 Some of them are exceptional and realize exactly what you're saying, but they are fairly rare. I think it good to see the traits as described, and realize it's not as unshakeable as they pretend. Instead of a sigma would never do this, or always do that, think of it as he has great tendencies to do things those ways instead. As well, that could translate just into, he's more that way than other personality types. It's actually rather easy to exaggerate sigma tendencies, simply because we're that much of an enigma from the hierarchal bunch. Myself, I'm not wholly sigma, and I actually doubt anybody ever is, but I accept that there has to be some sigma's more complete than myself to meet type description.
The key trait is individualism, which frequently will defy type, at least in some way. For example, I conducted an experiment of the last 3-4 years that proved to myself I could talk to ANY woman, any time I have something on my mind to state or ask. One of the key anti-sigma things I did to accomplish this, was I took the total initiative, and my subjects were women that were entirely unknown to me. For the sigma trait of more knowledge, in this case, I had to step into taking the initiative with women, which almost always is considered a non-sigma trait. It was actually very refreshing to see how taking the initiative changes things, but wasn't the purpose of it at all, but a happy bi-product. It also made me solid on just how you can avoid small talk every single time (hint - take the initiative without resorting to small talk yourself. Over the course of a longer discussion, this, of course, likely would be more difficult).
In a group discussion, Alphas tend to want to dominate the room, and Betas tend to be timid and will speak to back up the Alpha. Sigmas are usually silent, not from having nothing to say, but to absorb and process not just the verbal information, but also the non-verbal. In their silence, Sigmas allow their eyes to wander and read the room-the group's facial expressions, posture, and even their ticks, all the while listening to what the Alpha speaker is saying. From assessing these multitude of things in as quickly as a 10 seconds, the Sigma can then ascertain whether or not the Alpha speaker will reason with a rebuttal, or if the rest of the group is even interested in what's being discussed. The Sigma will ask himself, "Is this discussion even worth my time?" It's this very reason why the first person to usually to leave a circle of discussion is the Sigma.
Great comment
Whoa Perfect example
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Spot on
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I have found that the older I get, I have finally given myself full permission to not be guilted for staying away from my family drama. Even those family members I am close to, seeing them more than once a month is just too much. I love projects and like to talk about them with my closest friends. Most things that I am interested in are very edge case which must be boring for them, so I have to dumb it down.
All these videos make it sound like being a sigma is the coolest thing in the world.
However all us real sigma know its actually a giant pain in the ass.
Pale Rider with Clint Easrwood as "the preacher"was an awesome movie because it showed how dangerous a quiet man with a violent past couldl be....
One of Eastwoods best movies...
The ending is unforgetible...
A true Sigma male explanation.
Take time out to watch this gem of a movie..
Good call, a stone classic.
Teachers of knowledge learned hard or easy, are hard to come by. Clint is one of the best! 🇺🇸
"A good man is not a harmless man but a dangerous man that has it under control."
-Jordan Peterson
I recently encountered the term 'Sigma male' and was taken aback. It made me grateful that no one knew me. I can recall how humorous it was to see guys try to act tough, exude Alpha male energy, and draw attention during my teens, twenties, and thirties. That piece of paper in your girl's hand was my number.
Same. I've seen the term used in tik Tok and decided to look into it. What it boils down to is the sigma is calculating and calm with a level of integrity and precision. Peace is all he wants and he won't let anything destroy that. Either way it goes he will always maintain to the best of his ability because he has no one but himself. And the ones he care for he is there backbone. Sigma is very interesting. The quiet and commanding one.
People who believe living the Lone Wolf/Sigma lifestyle is cool because the definition of "Sigma" makes one feel like a total Badass.... HEAVILY think again.
Conquering extreme dark days and lonely night of Isolation alone in your head, not an easy feat.
Overcoming the breakaway of the world around you and accepting blissful Solitude, takes every ounce of your strength.
Sigma life is not simply: You vs the World.
It's You vs Yourself vs the World.
"People who believe living the Lone Wolf/Sigma lifestyle is cool because the definition of "Sigma" makes one feel like a total Badass.... HEAVILY think again." - I'm preparing a video on this topic, thanks for sharing this!
You can't be a Sigma by choice, not possible.
@cuchulainn3474 @cuchulainn3474 My statement wasn't describing me. As for telling others that this side of life isn't the badass fantasy we see on TV or those that show a macho side of Lone Wolves in films.
With that being said, you have me all wrong. Your upbringing is a factor of how you interact with the world, as well as yourself. How one treats themselves is a reflection how the world treated them.
Being an introvert, studying to gain wisdom, being on your own and growing your own food means what to the average person? That at some point you got tired of the way you were, how Society has shied away from what it once was, Family traditions are broken, Friendship is hard to trust and you wanted an escape.
You said you 52. Well I'm 38. So we both understand the insanity this world is molding itself into. But if you want an in depth view of my life showing that I've fully embraced the Lone Wolf life, I have a video on my channel from 2019, before the term 'Sigma' was popular to the public.
I don't want views. I don't want subscriptions. But how you described yourself is no different to other Lone Wolves.
At the end of the day the average world could care less of how you carry yourself in life and that is fine with Lone Wolves. Because we don't care either about the average world.
@@BernardJBurns just like being a 🍆🏳️🌈🍌🏳️⚧️ is not a choice HAPPY PRIDE TO ALL MY FELLOW SIGMA MEN WOMEN NON-BINARY TRANS SIGMA
Didn't even know what a Sigma was until earlier today. Surprised at how much I can relate to it though. I have all of these traits apart from maybe the adaptability one which depends on different situations for me. Wouldn't say I embrace change but I'm always growing as a person.
Yes could not understand how I could be a boss at 24 but I killed it then went on further
In fact a true Sigma doesn't know that he's a Sigma until he checks this RUclips video from earlier today. A true Sigma diligently waits for such a tim as this to discover that he too is a Sigma because it is so relatable because every person who wants to be a Sigma makes a public proclamation that why "A true Sigma" is including whatever their best attributes are so that a Sigma is all men who have their best attributes.
All the things I hold dear and valuable about myself are in this list, Thankyou for sharing this, it’s intriguing stuff
The problem with alphas arises when they realize i dont need them. It eats them up inside. I have one running a smear campaign at work right now.
Same, they feel a huge sense of entitlement for your attention, they go crazy when they get ignored
The trick is to “give” them just enough attention that satisfies them. But they’re not really in control. Adaptability is crucial for survival. And I don’t mean subordinate to them, but just a small dose of attention to make them feel good. It’s called empathy.
Thanks for that advice, I really appreciate it
The position I am experiencing this is a bit more fortunate, I have the luxury of disregarding them because we're both at the lowest hierarchy of the company, I could choose to play their game but I won't, I'm going to keep my head down and keep on doing what i was doing anyway
t. we're both croupiers at a casino
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Looks like a narcissistic trait
"This isn't a trait that can be faked but a characteristic that is lived." 8:56 Sigma means you have done the hard struggle. Not a trait but earned through tough times.
A sigma male refuses to lie!
Agree and not sugar coated
Amazing as always thank you!!
What this and all videos like this should start out by saying is: No person is a perfect archetype of a personality. We are all blends. Some will lean more one way or another but we are all blends AND those blends are subject to change due to age, health, life events, personal situations and so on. Just like taking the Myers and Briggs personality test only reflects how you feel about things at that moment. And at just that moment only. Time, life and situations change us all. No one stays the same and as we age, personalities will change. Videos like this should be used as a guide not as a hard and set rule.
Can a Cheetah change its spots? You are not a sigma. A sigma learns and grows but cannot change his spots. You misunderstand what a sigma is. It has nothing to do with "feelings". It is about who you are deep down inside. Only God can change that. And He doesn't. He made us to be who He wants us to be, yet wants to mold each of us. He will only sharpen that what needs to be sharpened and squash that which stands in His way once a sigma is submitted to Him. It has zero to do with feelings.
Perhaps you are an INTJ T . That T at the end stands for turbulence. Your post is turbulent. Feelings are not reality but an INTJ T thinks they are. You will never be an INTJ A. Those 2 are night and day different and can never be on the same page. An INTJ T is not a true sigma. And perhaps that is what you are FEELING.
@@puppyupper4565 ...Apparently you arent a "true sigma" either. Too caught up in social comparisons, put-downs and judgment of others. Really messy.
Thank you. The clearest logical conclusion here. Given the time of day, environment, mood, I can be Alpha, Sigma, Beta, or whatever. Labels limit free expression.
One caveat is that personality changing over time _can_ be a "reversion to self". In our youth, we're trying to find out who we are, and some have greater challenges in that than others (example: my Dad was VERY Alpha, and it took me a long time to be able to resist his energy and find my own). As we mature we can "settle down" into our real self. Another note is that even those who do seem to fit a given type perfectly may not manifest the traits of that type the way they're shown in videos like this. But your main point is true - these kinds of videos are good as tools for self-understanding, but shouldn't be taken too far.
Standing out without trying to stand out ... I (likely all of us) know several people who got their first tattoos and/or piercings in order to stand out ... and now I end up standing out for not having any tattoos or piercings
Lost interest in tattoos when most decorated some teenage girl's butt crack.
That's true and the crazy thi g us I'm an artist 🎨
I do know people that get tattoos for attention. I was in high-school when I got my first, nobody but my best friend knew. We even had to go to the next state over, as it was still illegal in the state I lived in at the time. I ended up with 4 before anyone other than my closest few friends. My grandmother of all people noticed something under my white shirt lol. I've had many hours of work since, and while I don't mind a short explanation from time to time, I get annoyed when people ask to see more than they can see casually.
“Stoic” is “Sigma” without so much of the the “dark” side, and it is “Spiritual” without so much of the “Religiousness”. Works better for me, but I have a long ways to go ! My relationships are improving and as a result, I am no longer avoiding them and lying to myself that my “Loner” ways were a deliberate choice that “I” made !….
Stoicism has given me so much. My life has been so much more stress free and rewarding since I started learning about it.
It's great philosophy!
The silent architect of understanding ❤
I Love watching these and I've never realized I've been a Sigma until I came across a video describing what one is.
If there is one undeniable fact about the sigma, it is that he is truly aware that life is God's gift to him. What he does with his life is his gift to God
I have been a sigma all my life. It is not the act, it shows in your lifestyle. I owned a Honda NSX and drove it on the racetrack without anybody knowing it in my extended family. Then I bought a totally average car. I moved to Thailand and learned the language to find the love of my life and o boy, was I successful. I lived 20 years in a camping trailer, not because I didn't have money, but because I like the simplicity and flexibility of this lifestyle. Experience over possessions.
@@Gloryboyquan No, I left in 2005. My wife likes life in Switzerland.
Thank you for these videos very relaxing
You can't fake always analyzing, thinking, and learning. Sometimes feels like an obessive driver. Every decision we make has been thoroughly though out for hours, days, weeks, months, or even years. The space and energy we require for our analysis would drive most people insane. I have always described myself as a social introvert and nobody is ever capable of understanding what I mean. I could care less about my "status" except for the drive to problem solve the situation. That is why we make great leaders. Most leaders want the praise and recognition for doing something. If they don't get that type of recognition, then they have no drive to do it.
A sigma motto simply NO RULES, NO MASTERS!
No.
Rules you made yourself. Not to just fit in. But with logic.
And masters that share your rules
In a non disrespectful manner..
@Apxllxn I understand the statement.. It's no different from what you've explained. Intuition goes hand in hand ✋️
@@THEREALJDOT yes its different. He made it too simple
@@Apxllxn When things are black and white, it's only a difference between degrees. I'm not here to school you. If you are a sigma, read between the lines and then accept yourself, my man.
If i wasn't so outgoing id think i was a sigma... i have spent years by myself and I love being alone in my mind so much that I recently drove across America without listening to the radio once, i just enjoyed the drive 💯
Alphas r full of shyte always will alwere
Holy f bomb. Respect..
Nice to know I'm not the only one that's done that (though mine was only east coast to Rockies). Though being outgoing doesn't mean you're not Sigma _at all,_ just that you're not purely Sigma. Then again, how can we insist that someone has to conform to all the Sigma characteristics to be a Sigma, when one of those characteristics is non-conformity? 😉
I recently messed up on #7. Since that day I got over that human disappointment, I'm back on track. Nothing wrong with being sigma.
Sigma's see the pursuit of knowledge as collecting tools for solving problems not as a hammer to pummel others with to shame them. This is why a Sigma never stops pursuing knowledge no matter how old they get. It is because a Sigma is in constant pursuit of knowledge and understanding that they can be isolated and alone for longer than most and not feel lonely. The Sigma wants to keep their mind sharp and reflects on ideas trying to get past a simple understanding of concepts to the deep understanding that provides intuitive insight. They do this with whatever they become curious about which is what gives them their unique perspectives on everything from fields of science to politics and religion. A Sigma seldom agrees with the masses because the masses are content with being amused while a Sigma wants to truly know how the world works, how people are motivated to do what they do, how to get work done in their chosen profession to the highest degree of effectiveness. They do all of this quietly and deliberately avoid drawing attention to themselves. Often if the solve a major problem they will let others take credit for it to avoid the limelight. Not because they are timid and afraid but because solving the problem provides them with all the reward they require. Most of the time their employers do not really understand how valuable they are until they leave.
i stand by that
I've been called Mr.Twenty Questions. I never thought much about my inquisitive mind until somebody brought it to my attention. I have always had an inquisitive mind. One of the reasons I enjoyed college. It opened up a whole new world for me, though I have met people that lack an inquisitive mind, but are quick to lecture.
@@jonerrek7806sigma !
This is so cringey 😂
So very true
Sigmas are top of the food chain in the spiritual realm. If they apply thier spiritual power in everyday life, they can make anyone feel uncomfortable because they can sense fakeness, weakness and expose fake tough guys without even trying and those people sense the Sigma sees and knows. But if they come across another Sigma, the mutual respect is like no other. Sigmas are best to find a job that they work alone, own a business or two. maybe work with a small group. In large groups, Sigmas, like a lone wolf will often find him/herself fighting off the hyenas that naturally can't stand the fact that the Sigma is just too damn good.
Corny asf 🤓🤓
It’s about observing and never truly feeling you have to compete with anyone. Let others compete with you. Compete with yourself.
That bike sounds bad ass! I definitely like ur camping and coffee vids.
Just stay in the background and listen, the answers are always there, bring the balance back in the situation, diplomacy is a friend to all, all food for thought, we never stop learning that’s everyone 👍 life is for experiencing, not being a slave to the so called norm 👍
I believe several of these things can be a part of the alpha as well and I don’t think it’s entirely black or white I know people as young kids have a very distinct class but as they mature and go from just doing life to trying to improve themselves they gradually adopt and adapt themselves thereby becoming a mixture of the 3 by learning self control. This is what some might call wiser experienced men. Who have learned from experience
It's absolutely on point
Thanks!
I generally view an 'alpha' as a form of a 'beta.' The beta just gives in to insecurity, while the alpha overcompensates because of the insecurity.
Their aggression always came off as overcompensation right?
This is a gamma male comment. Assuming that real leaders are insecure like you are. Anyone commenting on these videos is no Sigma or alpha. We just troll betas on here for fun.
From my point of view, alphas manage jang (and not jin) and betas yin (and not yang). This is the similarity. Sigmas manage both (yin and yang together) and this is the reason why they grow up later. If a man misses any of these two skills, he is insecure (as you have written).
@petrdostal3915 so I'm about as sure as a person can be that I'm a sigma when watching RUclips but then I'm sure everybody who watches this video thinks the same there may be a language barrier I don't know what you mean by (jin) n Jang) is that like( yin n yang) sigmas hold both sides of the coin there for are always content, " can't think of a better word for it at the moment) where as Alpha is always holding heads, beta, trails?
@@tassatiskillgore2290 i think that's what he means. Contentment. Whatever jin and jang is... it's not defined
Hello, I just stumbled upon over this video by chance. Great indeed, thx a lot. Have a wonderful day. Cheers. P.S.Subbed2 🎉❤
i have only recently learned about this sigma male arche type, it only came to my attention after multiple family members and friends applied this label to me. I'll say this for how i became here..... Years of abuse, physical, emotional, and mental. Growing up with every friend i ever made being turned against me by my family... this is not a healthy head space to live in, its a combination of survival traits earned through hard times, abuse and neglect. Aim for something more healthy, you don't want this. (if you want to train your brain to be more inline, try reading and practicing stoicism. Stoicism is what has gotten me through some of the worst experiences some one can go through)
As a true sigma-giga once said: its better to fart in the face of an alfa than hold it like a beta
Imma frt n yar face fur teh shitz n giggies of it. *poofwahh*
thank you
Great insights. Thank you.
A rule most Sigmas live by: "When the wind changes direction, adjust your sails."
11.5 out of 12. This explains a LOT!! thank you.
okay so only just started seeing your videos and damn are they all spot on
Sounds like me 😒😌
I was always called weird because I seemed quiet but I don't believe in just pointless conversation like small talk ect .
Narcissists mimic Sigmas. If we reject their efforts to make us supply (we are the most prized type of supply), then we oftentimes become their scapegoat or target, their assigned nemesis.
an "undeniable Sign"? - Sigmas don't care about labels or label themselves as such, they just get on with it.
Yep
I could easily spend a day fly fishing on a windless day with a couple of cold beers in the creel alone. Catching a fish is simply a bonus. Clears the mind thoroughly.
I send these videos to my wife....i think it has helped her understand what kind of man that i am. After 29 years, ive finally hit that sweet spot in mt marriage.
I can tell you that I do enjoy hearing some form of praise occasionally on my achievements but I don't require it but it is nice to hear..
When the fight is with your wife about her betrayal... it's no petty issue! Maybe it it? If I'm done with her, I shouldn't care. I never cared about anyone leaving me before. And I tossed her out, I still feel restrained anger a week later.
All i can do after watching and reading this is smile 😊
I think that Sigma personality can be switched off (for some moment) when you get mad and forget what you have learnt.
😅😅😅😅
No. It is innate and built in from childhood. It is the rarest personality type. So you and almost every dude on here just saw John Wick and wish they had a cool personality.
@@lifeisgoodskt???
@@lifeisgoodskt It is a shame that Sigma personality is something that upon a pedestrial and used as a weapon without a rational approach. It is a nice example of that each valuable thing tends to turn into its opposition (when used unwisely).
@@lifeisgoodsktI have not seen John Wick and tbh. I am not interested in who he is. This shows simply a false judgment perhaps based on evil motives.
"The wise man is quiet because he is unmoved, not because he wills himself silent." ~ Chang Tzu
EXCELLENT
It's a going with your gut thing. Often times my mind would tell me things seemed OK while at the same time my gut is twisting. The last time I failed to heed my intuition I dated a woman for 2 weeks then my gut said cut her lose so I did and felt an immediate peace inside. Then I talked to a buddy of mine and I let him talk me into giving her a chance. Although there were bright spots for 18 months but the confusion, stress and emotional pain was intense. That was over 20 years ago and I haven't disregarded my gut feelings since. It takes courage to follow your gut at first because there is no evidence for concern. It takes faith in yourself and to betray that faith harmful consequences follow.
no it's not, it is a human nature, as people have different personalities, you are born with it. Sigma males don't stress about little things because we understand life as a whole spectrum of existence.
@@edram1909 Yes it is for me. You? Who the hell knows
Don't try to blend into groups, it's just a waste of time.
The best thing you can do is help those who need it, deserve it and appreciate it.
Never try to manipulate the laws of physics. It is not possible to.
True adaptability is when you respect these laws.
You need to know your own worth.
It's all you'll ever have.
And at the end of a long day, that's all that matters.
Continue the good work, as I do. Live long and ....
"A true Sigma doesn't think after he speaks. He speaks after thinking and then he speaks thoughtfully."
This standard of what a Sigma is has always existed since the dawn of time and all Sigmas are born with this innate quality. I'm not making this up. This has always been a thing people.
99% of guys thinking to be "sigma" are just antisocial guys that are desperately trying to label themselves as something "cool".
It's sad.
i am sigma male
Nailed it👍👍👍👍👍👍
Life is a such a blessing, especially when you know where you're going. I like to be in the shadows and strike at the right moment and right time. Everything is in your mind and will power. In all situations, you need to be a man and enjoy any challenges that come in front of you. I get a lot of energy when I am along by myself. I read books, compose music and I love sports. I do not know who I am, but one thing I know that there's true happiness when you have true purpose and constant growth towards perfection that will be beneficial to you and the people around you. Cheers. Just be yourself and never stop to improve to be the better version of yourself.
You won't know your Sigma until you've been partnered with a true Narcisist. There's no middle ground.
I guess all we want is to be interesting or at least interested in life. Which means we want to be unique and so we fantasize about achieving greatness by separating ourselves as much from the average as possible, to validate ourselves. We hope to be unique but fail to do so for the very reason that we need to do so, the societies in which we live do not accept us. The people in our lives do not want what is best for us, and everyone else seems to just harm us as much as possible, whenever possible. It seems like a one horse race because we are against all of them, bound by all of them and so unable to fight back since they outnumber us. Therefore we plan to just break free from the chains which they hold us in by committing the craziest acts possible, the most meaningful acts possible, so that we can leave afterwards, so that we can feel calm afterwards. But of course this is easier said than done and so we wallow in this world. We post montages online of characters who embody what we must embody to commit such crazy acts to escape this delirium. But hopefully some day all of us shall acquire what we need, hopefully we shall find what we are looking for.
I am a sigma male. Have a few friends a wife and 2 wonderful boys. My best friends. Solitude acres road is where we live.
It's not really a prize being a sigma. Just watch "Reacher". Likely on a smaller scale than Reacher, you'll still be dealing with corrupt, unprincipled, alphas your whole life. Also, most women will think you are weird because you never get lonely, you never get jealous, and you give them too much freedom.
I did recognize every sigma male I have ever met, and I still remember them, somehow they seemed different. I can say they are a few sigmas out there.
I’m definitely 110% sigma personality, don’t know how I became this way, I suspect it’s reactionary reaction to our culture/society
I'm 55 with the energy and drive of a late 30s.
Recently, in the past couple of years I started to listen about these so-called Sigma males. I have to say that most if not all the traits are genuinely there, but there's still one thing that bothers me and makes me question it, and is this, what if all these vids, talks and studies are nothing more than an exotic enticement of one's alter ego!??
And people thought I was crazy . If ever there was a sigma personality omg ❤ nailed it
Sigmas are made when they have to grow up healing themselves as kids. We've had time since we were young to analyze and figure out our emotions on our own. I'm happy my mother raised me the way she did.
Confident silence means people actually listen when you speak and remain silent when your point has been heard in full. In my experience its when rambunctious debate is going on and you kill the conversation with facts. Everyone goes silent like daddy just brought the lesson.
My job has a undertone of fear with me, because they can't understand a presense on a whole different frequency
Now this is better than the cartoon characters I have been suffering from . Watching the cartoon was bad experience
I as a Sigma with what I see going on in politics today, it all comes down to the truth. And the truth is that the wealthy should live off the ignorance of others to eventually rule over a society stricken with the bliss they created. The land of confusion. Consider what you gather. And on and on and on until you see what drives in success. Do not be not a road side salesman. And you should have your own material not a pocket full of plagiarism and lies to manipulate towards your own benefits or for one cause. Jealousy is what rules the societies. If I can't have it, no one else will. And ignorantly destroy a societal benefit.
Thank you for this channel, I thought I was alone and alien to this place.
I am silent, i hear nature speak to me at night when i sleep, when i a wake, when i work, when i rest, when i play..I am
I see a lot of things in this video that speak to me but I don’t see myself as a sigma
I’ve determined that I as an individual don’t fit in a box
I’m good with that
"To me sons of Sigmar! For the Empire!!" - Sigmar Priest :D
Ok jokes aside, this is the first time I've heard of a "Sigma Male".
Well, I'm definitely not a Sigma.
I find such labels and the characteristics determined by them unrealistic and somewhat ridiculous.
Hello that is so excellent doing great so wonderful bless you all ✨️ 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
This is my second video and have now hit the subscription.
these traits i have them all...believe me and i feel sad most of the time
I can't help thinking that this is related to the avoidant attachment style
wondering what the full list of 'types' is? i know Alpha., Beta and obviously Sigma, which is where i think i would be placed. any others?
Be your own master, let no other human being lead because your get astray, your purpose. The mission is everything. Sigma, Compos Sui.
Has a sigma it never ends well for anyone threatening myself whether today or decade from now , not bragging but I’ve encountered in work place alpha males whom regretted crossing someone not knowing whom but probably suspected it was me
I listen to this and just shake my head wow.
Being a sigma male is something id change in a heartbeat, its mentally exhausting. Alpha males seem to have a much simpler time in society.
Sigmas eat Alphas for breakfast
Ya it reminds me of school days and how girls wanted to be blond, they always said its because they have more fun. Unfortunately being a sigma means you have the answers to correct the problems. Only no one wants to fix them.
We can break an alpha just by looking into their eyes. They are just scared bullies.
Amazing
Never knew Sigma was a thing. Although I have some of these traits and have always felt different, I don't see myself as fully Sigma.
Indeed. Forget the "sigma, alpha, beta" labels. Just get the job done.
This Is Right Sir .
The whole plot of Breaking Bad is that Walt's insecurities were his motivation. He's literally the opposite of a sigma. Good video, though.
Go beyond the labels. Just get the job done. With out all the self-congratulatory excess and introspection.
I think sigma is simply a well balanced alpha.
Can someone be in more than one category, like sigma but also having traits of another, like caring about their family or trying to please a spouse? Or, can a sigma have a good sence of humor and make other people laugh?
I've never heard the word sigma before, but just thought I was crazy.. I've been told I'm to honest, and immediately thought why isn't everyone honest.
Reacher is the quintessential sigma male. Only true sigmas can understand Reacher.
I'd rather be a alpha than a sigma. But I'm not either. I'm just a loner 😢😢😢
As long as you are content, "good on you."
Don’t be a Label - whatever the label may be. Just be yourself and comfortable with that.
hey bro, it's ok, just focus on projects you enjoy and keep moving forward, you don't have to prove anything, just be a good guy and keep learning to protect yourself and those around you
Great.
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True Virgo +
As older u get as more sigma u become
It is interesting to find at 54 I am suddenly desirable and everyone wants to be me. 😂
No credit, I did not work at it. 😂
At times ppl think I have crazy dreams which is not realistic. They can say all they want, I don’t care. I already have my eyes fixed on the target.
I fit some of these the obscure music had me laughing because i have yet to meet someone in the UK who has heard of The Legendary Pink Dots, an Anglo/Dutch band formed in 1980 and started their success in 1983 after moving to the Netherlands. My at the time girlfriend who was older than me introduced me to them. I have chatted with one man in the US who's heard of them and has some of their stuff 70+ albums and i can't find a fan.
Also rules don't really mean much to me and i've always been a non conformist, i do what i want to do when i want to do it.
Not sure what slot I fit into...but I have never been able to get exceited about Professional Sports...especially the NFK-I know a lot of people who get a great deal of pleasure by watching football games...I just get bored...why?