News 8 Throwback 1978: Development in downtown San Diego, Horton Plaza

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  • Опубликовано: 10 сен 2018
  • In the summer of 1978, downtown San Diego was experiencing lots of change. News 8's Dave Cohen reported on a 50-acre residential redevelopment project in the Marina and Columbia districts. Reporter Carol Kendrick showcased the Horton Plaza redevelopment area and contractor Ernest Hahn's vision for the three-story mall which would take several years to create.

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  • @METALFAN4EVS
    @METALFAN4EVS 5 лет назад +37

    Love seeing videos of my city. Wish we could go back to this time, today sucks

    • @seandaugherty9171
      @seandaugherty9171 5 лет назад +7

      I wish they'd have left it alone. I liked it the way it was. :-(

    • @jimmac6054
      @jimmac6054 5 лет назад +6

      Yeah! Dirty filthy Broadway!

  • @iamkarlwithak
    @iamkarlwithak Год назад +5

    Horton Plaza is the definitive development that shows how developers have taken advantage of the incompetence that has plagued the City Council and local government. Current affordable housing in downtown is a tent. 🙏💪🌍🌏🌎❤️🇺🇸🖖

  • @romansroad2007
    @romansroad2007 5 лет назад +30

    Where is the low income housing at ? Ya right

  • @iFriendofYours
    @iFriendofYours 5 лет назад +9

    This should be broadcast over and over in the four corners of San Diego the city. Unbelievable.

  • @Voorhees-Jason
    @Voorhees-Jason 4 года назад +16

    I wondered if he knew that mall would only have a life span of 35 years after it's grand opening

    • @thomasyarnall999
      @thomasyarnall999 3 года назад +2

      35 years is longer than the average lifespan for a mall. Luckily this one is being repurposed.

    • @Nirvezz
      @Nirvezz Год назад

      @@thomasyarnall999 plaza Bonita I believe is older, and doing fine, the old Chula Vista mall and even the ghetto Price Breakers in national city. Horton plaza was beautiful and should have lasted longer and popular

    • @CJinsoo
      @CJinsoo Год назад

      that’s a pretty long time for a mall with stores that are heavily frequented. seems like it did well.

    • @dexterpace7710
      @dexterpace7710 Год назад +3

      Horton Plaza was a bad design from the start. Getting “ lost” got old quickly

    • @spacedye2001
      @spacedye2001 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@CJinsooHorton Plaza was terrible from the beginning and destined to fail.

  • @Voorhees-Jason
    @Voorhees-Jason 4 года назад +9

    Also low income my foot, that area now that has condos and homes is one of the most expensive places to live!!!

  • @pamelamays4186
    @pamelamays4186 3 года назад +10

    Low income.
    Low income residents have been chased out of downtown.

  • @Baynewsvideo
    @Baynewsvideo 5 лет назад +5

    @2:19 "Itinerant preachers and Down and Outers" ...I love you Carol Kendrick! Wish Ch-8 still had snappy writing like that.

    • @CJinsoo
      @CJinsoo Год назад

      love that there is no political correct B.S., tyhey are bums and they won’t be stopping progress-hit the bricks!

  • @andreamurphy1126
    @andreamurphy1126 3 года назад +8

    Watching this in November 2020. That mall was soooo confusing. It was so Suessical .

    • @Nirvezz
      @Nirvezz Год назад +2

      I often saw confused and angry shoppers. Mainly because they felt stuck in a maze.

  • @romansroad2007
    @romansroad2007 5 лет назад +11

    It’s messed up even after they did it What a waste. They are still back to square one. The big Store’s are gone too

  • @noreenanthony-tabar2148
    @noreenanthony-tabar2148 2 года назад +4

    While in the US Navy I got stationed at Subase Point Loma and we were told to not go downtown San Diego, too dangerous and this was in 1993. When Horton Plaza was already making the area safer for sailors. But nice to see how San Diego was before Horton Plaza.

    • @seaweed2007
      @seaweed2007 Год назад +2

      That’s the biggest bunch of bunk I’ve ever heard. I was a young woman then and spent so much time down there. There was nothing dangerous about it.

    • @Nirvezz
      @Nirvezz Год назад

      They probably misinformed you.
      It’s probably the street hookers right outside the base in national city and to avoid the historical Trophy Lounge, which is closed.

    • @noreenanthony-tabar2148
      @noreenanthony-tabar2148 Год назад

      @@seaweed2007 What year?

    • @seaweed2007
      @seaweed2007 Год назад

      @@noreenanthony-tabar2148 64 to 95.

    • @noreenanthony-tabar2148
      @noreenanthony-tabar2148 Год назад

      @@seaweed2007 31 years?

  • @darthmaul33
    @darthmaul33 5 лет назад +9

    Can I get one ticket for the Martial Arts Mayhem at the Cabrillo, please?

  • @bradsteinwehe3204
    @bradsteinwehe3204 4 года назад +7

    At :58 note the sign on the building advertising “nudity”. I wonder if they are still in business.😂

    • @efrem1
      @efrem1 2 года назад +1

      Stayed at the Armed Forces Ymca next to that place back in the early 1980s. All of that stuff was long gone by the 1990s with several hotels standing on that site.

  • @durf2753
    @durf2753 9 месяцев назад +1

    Downtown sure looked more vibrant then than now. After all, Horton Plaza only lasted 30 years and went bust. Downtown is even worse shape now. Sad

  • @jjcooks7401
    @jjcooks7401 3 года назад +2

    What a visionary

  • @kingmanarizona2661
    @kingmanarizona2661 Год назад +2

    I was there in 1978, statiioned at Balboa Hospital. Spent a lot of time there, walked, watched late night movies, etc. But that place was a slum! I remember waiting for a bus one late night in that park, and in 5 minutes I was offered drugs 5 times, women 7 times, then a car stopped, tossed a guy out, beat him up, tossed him back in, and drove away! Fun times. The beaches were also slums. Funny how things change over time... San Diego was a fairly cheap place to live. Mission Beach, PB, OB were beach bum paradises. Sometimes change is not for the better.

  • @6galaxy
    @6galaxy 4 года назад +5

    The underground restrooms were already sealed by this time.

    • @sandiegofilm4923
      @sandiegofilm4923 4 года назад

      Bum were they bad?

    • @6galaxy
      @6galaxy 4 года назад

      @@sandiegofilm4923 Back then my Mom told me people would get robbed down there and also fights would happen. Hard to escape out of there.

  • @onefatstratcat
    @onefatstratcat 5 лет назад +4

    '78 was the year I escaped from high school :)

  • @chenydeniz3594
    @chenydeniz3594 4 года назад +5

    It was not better at all. It got worse

  • @jimmac6054
    @jimmac6054 5 лет назад +2

    Were there ever any Gaslamps in downtown SD or does it just sound less seedy & in need of penicillin than the "Stingaree" district?

    • @nelsongarcia9894
      @nelsongarcia9894 3 года назад +3

      We never had any gaslamps. It was just a rebranding moniker make up in the 70s to give it a “Victorian” feel. I still refuse to call it that. It was The “Stingaree.”

  • @daikatana65
    @daikatana65 2 года назад +1

    horton plaza is history now!!!!

  • @armandtoledo6706
    @armandtoledo6706 2 года назад +1

    What a horrifying cold and ugly place downtown has become. Much better back then

    • @danielmaher7108
      @danielmaher7108 Год назад +1

      I grew up in San Diego but left in 1985. The last time I visited was in November of 2018 and I couldn't believe how gentrified downtown had become.

  • @ivanhoesanchez2606
    @ivanhoesanchez2606 2 года назад

    NICE STORY

  • @medavog
    @medavog 11 месяцев назад

    IN 1980 MY MOM AND MY BROTHERS ARRIVED TO THAT FOUNTAIN TO GO 2 BLOCKS AWAY TO IMMIGRATION BUILDING TO GET A FINGERPRINTS- I REMEMBER EXACTLY THAT SCENE OF OLD, DECAY AND I HAVE NEVER OR MY FAMILY SEEN HOMELESS OR BLACK PEOPLE - TRULY IMPRESSIVE CHANGE BUT THE HOMELESS ARE MORE NOW THAN EVER BEFORE, GOD BLESS DOWNTOWN AND SAN DIEGANS! i loveee black men now lol

  • @DankSi
    @DankSi Год назад +1

    Remember were parked on pineapple!

  • @Zero-xl2ef
    @Zero-xl2ef 2 года назад

    And it did. Sadly it’s gone now, the mall will become office spaces smdh

  • @adriena.samuels9726
    @adriena.samuels9726 Год назад

    Genius hahn

  • @pontiacgto2005
    @pontiacgto2005 Год назад

    CCDC has not done the job.

  • @spacedye2001
    @spacedye2001 Год назад

    How did Horton Plaza work out? 😂😅

    • @Nirvezz
      @Nirvezz Год назад

      Better off demolishing that area and re-do the design of downtown.

  • @voiceofraisin241
    @voiceofraisin241 5 месяцев назад

    I wonder how many of those low income units are still low income. Wait I can tell you. Zero. They buy them cheap but when they go to sell them they get full price.

  • @sdrob6374
    @sdrob6374 11 месяцев назад

    Now the Homeless and tweakers are trying to return it to the 70's.

  • @johnjaco5544
    @johnjaco5544 Год назад

    Complete failure

  • @JacoZawinul
    @JacoZawinul 3 года назад +4

    02:17 "Seedy refuge of itinerate creatures and down and outers that assaults the camera’s eye” Carol Kendrick

    • @DankSi
      @DankSi Год назад +1

      Now that's writing