Bolinger Munro. Using old platforms built for ICE and converting them is inefficient in comparrison to platforms built from the ground up for EV. Quite a few electric Land Rovers already exist.
Very inefficient and costly to convert old platforms in large numbers and making new ones to the same design is illegal nowadays due to all the rules around crash safety etc. so no chance of it happening.
Wow Richard, this project really showcases the diversity of ECC. The great thing is that you digitise all of your designed solutions so that you can replicate them, as you do with the kits you produce. Can’t wait to see you shaking down this monster around the Welsh Lanes👍🏴😎
That 80 kg of mass saved with the newer tyres is a HUGE deal - less mass to spin up on accelerating, less rotational (centrifugal) force to deal with on slowing down. We used to move our challenge vehicle on a small set of road tyres with the competition tyres loaded elsewhere on our tow vehicle - made a significant difference to stopping distance, even though the competition vehicle itself was unbraked when on the A-frame.
There is a truck bed solution that lets you hook the platform that is laying on the ground, and then lift it on top of the truck. Its not a crane, its a piston that lays underneath the bed when its loaded, so its invisible. It holds the bed in place when moving and overall its very practical and requires no labour. Also the new bed could allow 4 bikes mounted sideways I think, since they will be loaded on the ground and dont have to be going in from behind.
These conversions look great and desirable, but how's the security going? Because in case of an unfortunate accident the battery in front would get into the passenger compartment. Pass EURONCAP test?
With a 170 Kwh battery pack and the Defender weight (minus loaded bikes) and drag coefficiency, I'm estimating the efficiency to be around 1.2 miles/kwh good for about 200 miles of range. The Rivian is a ground-up wind tunnel optimized EV offroader and still only achieves 2 miles/kwh. Regardless another impressive build from ECC! 👏
The rivian might have been wind tunnel tested but I suspect a more significant design criterion was it should “look like a truck”. There is not much streamlining a designer can do with three rectangular boxes. One of them open topped.
The blocky tyre problem is universal ... Try a MTB with them on and the noise and the strain on your knees will soon tell you along with the tyre pressures. Pave blocks are better in all but deep mud /snow ...and even then theres still better choices if the vehicles light.
Any chance you could take a look at Advanced Electric Machines out Newcastle on Tyne.... They build modular motors that are free of rare earth magnets and largely free of copper. - 😎 way to go... And 🇬🇧 based.
@@110markb You do know that a study in the states concluded there was more loss from very hot conditions than very cold? . Anyway, my bet is that cold = poor grip and poor grip = range loss (which would affect an ICE vehicle just as much)
ECC, have you done any offroad colabs with US EV converters? I have yet to see any US shop developed a sealed EV offroader, any brand. The focus sees to be on roadsters.
9:18 😂 "old man noises" 😂 If your muscles are stiff then it means that you're not eating enough protein.. Great build 👍👍 Edit: the vehicle, not your body 😳
How easy was the middle battery pack to do and would you do it again instead of putting a pack elsewhere? Flippin' great stuff, need to get my lottery ticket so my 110 can get the electric upgrade.
This is 100% the most advance EV conversion out there. It really doesnt surprise me that its come out of the ECC garage. Insane Moggy and the team #EPIC 💪⚡️💯
I'm really intrigued to know what the range on this will be, with or without the Maxxis tyres. 170kWh is huge, but it's a blunt shed. Must be 300+ miles?
22 kW AC charging, I assume, is using 3 phase current? If the truck will be shipped for shows overseas, I assume, it has to use adaptors for charging, let's say in North America to CCS1, China to GB, in Japan to Chademo. I believe it was way too complicated to fit high voltage batteries inside the frame of the truck, to create that famous skateboard, thus to have the ability to make battery pack of the size of 250 kW. That is the number claimed to be fit into upcoming new RAM EV truck.
@@ElectricClassicCars I thought this is a show truck. That being said it has to travel worldwide accompanying the company's events. I know, most of the world follows CCS2 like in Europe. China has its own GB, a derivative of Chademo. The latter is predominant in Japan. North America slowly is transitioning from CCS1, Chademo to NACS, the traditional Tesla type connector. However if the truck stays in Europe then yes, just CCS2 is perfect.
As we said in the video the project is not finished and the cables are not connected, therefore those rear cables are just hanging there in that location. Not there now. 👍
We want teslarossa updates! Please? 😁 After seeing the gas monkey testa ev swapped custom vert Ferrari I want to see a cleaner one that is ALL finished&daily driveable. 😎
Toyota hybrids have been in production since 1997, with no change to the infrastructure, unlike all electric vehicles. Edison motors has built a logging truck which is hybrid. One of the best things about hybrids is that their fuel economy is at least 35% better than a regular automatic transmission vehicle. If emissions were truly, the target that the EPA is after they would have recommended 20 years ago that hybrids were the answer. But the EPA is controlled by lobbyists, which are paid by corporations which are owned by the private Central Bank through Vanguard and BlackRock. Which means that the private Central Bank uses the citizens as debt slaves to support the Central Bank. Until a government buy the people and for the people is installed and the private Central Bank is no longer in existence. You will not have any progress in fuel Economy and vehicles because the trail of money goes to the private Central Bank. The culture war, also known as 5th Generation. Unlimited warfare is also being waged on us by the private Central Bank in order to break the people and take over the world. Their propaganda arm is a World Economic Forum and it states clearly that they want a one world government. All electric vehicles will not work Until the infrastructure is created. And creating an infrastructure to make electric vehicles. Work is not in the best interest of the oil companies who are owned by the bankers, etc. Etc.
For the same reason timber veneer is considered luxury. It’s more expensive then the alternative material. If car makers could use marble flooring they would. Leather is a bizarre material to use in a vehicle that actually going to do work.
It's very odd people consider a cows arse a luxury thing, there any many fabrics that work and feel better, without looking tacky and weighing a ton. Marble tho, nah, look at Trump's houses, you see luxury?
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I would think that Land Rover would copy this. In my opinion, this is a better option than the ICE version.
Bolinger Munro.
Using old platforms built for ICE and converting them is inefficient in comparrison to platforms built from the ground up for EV. Quite a few electric Land Rovers already exist.
I believe they look at movies like these with big interest. Developedment of a car can take years.
Very inefficient and costly to convert old platforms in large numbers and making new ones to the same design is illegal nowadays due to all the rules around crash safety etc. so no chance of it happening.
@@dormie200electric Ineos Grenadier is coming
Would be great to take it to the US and just park it beside a Hummer EV.
I'm sure the reaction would be "interesting".
The Defender 130 Mothership :)
That's a good long drive to run it in :-) Jim Bell (Australia)
Yes, please do a follow-up on this Mammoth!
If you follow us on Instagram you can follow the journey right now from Wales to Sweden, 3000kms. 👍
Great he takes electric bikes with him on this impressive truck.
Incredible attention to detail , again .
Thank you!
Mega project. Love it. Unbelievable what you realize .
Many thanks!
crazy. 60kwh just under the rear seats!🤯 170kwh total as much as the GM Hummer EV!.
That is one AWESOME vehicle
Incredible machine!
We agree!
That's an impressive lump of engineering. Would love to see a video of you range testing it! Thanks Richard. 👌🙂👍
What an awesome project!
Välkommen tillbaka till Sverige med den sen! 🙂
When finished must be the best 130 out there .Like the internal plugs to charge the bikes .Also the bike locks are a really good design.
This is by far the best and coolest conversion you have done so far. If I had the money this would be my choice 🎉
Wow Richard, this project really showcases the diversity of ECC. The great thing is that you digitise all of your designed solutions so that you can replicate them, as you do with the kits you produce. Can’t wait to see you shaking down this monster around the Welsh Lanes👍🏴😎
Test drive coming soon 👍😀
That 80 kg of mass saved with the newer tyres is a HUGE deal - less mass to spin up on accelerating, less rotational (centrifugal) force to deal with on slowing down. We used to move our challenge vehicle on a small set of road tyres with the competition tyres loaded elsewhere on our tow vehicle - made a significant difference to stopping distance, even though the competition vehicle itself was unbraked when on the A-frame.
Less un-sprung mass too but not sure how important on a Defender.
Totally agree
_WHEELS!_
That is some machine. Kudos to ECC. 👍
Uncle Ben says: with great battery pack comes great rechargeability
Mmmmm! Love a classic-ish Landy! And this certainly takes the biscuit as far as EV ones are concerned! 😍
Dang! Now that is a BEAST!🤩
Hey Richard. Love your work 👍
Awesome, thank you!
WOW what a fantastic Job you have done there , carnt wait to see the next one 😁
Amazing conversion!
Excellent bit of engineering. Fantastic looking truck
Thanks 👍👍
Thank you very much!
This vehicle is awesome! This is the optimal Land Rover! I love it!😍
Thanks 👍👍
Bravo! This exceptional. Love this build.
That is frickin awesome, I love it 👌😎
There is a truck bed solution that lets you hook the platform that is laying on the ground, and then lift it on top of the truck. Its not a crane, its a piston that lays underneath the bed when its loaded, so its invisible. It holds the bed in place when moving and overall its very practical and requires no labour. Also the new bed could allow 4 bikes mounted sideways I think, since they will be loaded on the ground and dont have to be going in from behind.
Sounds good. 👍👍
We looked at that but it was too heavy. 👍
Three bikes and a trailer is tight! By which I mean cool...@@ElectricClassicCars
Can't beat a good Defender and this thing looks awesome can't wait to see it running!
Shouldn’t be too long now. 👍😀
These conversions look great and desirable, but how's the security going? Because in case of an unfortunate accident the battery in front would get into the passenger compartment. Pass EURONCAP test?
Great looking truck! I can’t wait to see the finished product.
Please tell me you are going to put hood struts on the, as you call it the bonnet.
What a dream vehicle!!! 😍😍😍😍 I guess that it would require at least a 120,000 eur admission fee? 😅😅😅 It's awesome! 👏👏👏
Amazing setup and great update. Would love to see a final video covering the finished project out in the welsh country side
Test drive coming soon 👍😀
With a 170 Kwh battery pack and the Defender weight (minus loaded bikes) and drag coefficiency, I'm estimating the efficiency to be around 1.2 miles/kwh good for about 200 miles of range. The Rivian is a ground-up wind tunnel optimized EV offroader and still only achieves 2 miles/kwh. Regardless another impressive build from ECC! 👏
The rivian might have been wind tunnel tested but I suspect a more significant design criterion was it should “look like a truck”. There is not much streamlining a designer can do with three rectangular boxes. One of them open topped.
Fantastic!
Once again, you are taking something awesome, and making it awesome...er.
Thank you so much 😀
Great result after all the head scratching. I really need a set of those wheels and tyres for my Discovery.
You won’t regret it. 👍
Beautiful beast. Fantastic build!!
Thanks 👍👍
Brilliant project and as usual an outstanding result, that thing is an absolute beast, can't wait to see it in action.
Wow can't wait to watch this. Finally one I could afford to run
The blocky tyre problem is universal ... Try a MTB with them on and the noise and the strain on your knees will soon tell you along with the tyre pressures.
Pave blocks are better in all but deep mud /snow ...and even then theres still better choices if the vehicles light.
Any chance you could take a look at Advanced Electric Machines out Newcastle on Tyne.... They build modular motors that are free of rare earth magnets and largely free of copper. - 😎 way to go... And 🇬🇧 based.
Great video guys
Glad you enjoyed it
@@ElectricClassicCars every one is good
Looks really good! Hope to see it on the road over here in Sweden 😊
Keep your eyes peeled. 👍😀
@@spudproductions7606 will do 😄
Damn what a beast!
Wow, what a monster! I thought you were going to show two charging ports on the truck….
Great!
Awesome vehicle, great job everyone involved.
Thanks 👍👍😀
Really great Procject - Looks great 👍, fits fantastic for the Defender crewcab - Maybe your next step should be a Mercedes UNIMOG ..?
Good idea 👍👍
That would be cool!
Very impressive project!
Thanks 👍😀
Thank you!
Wow guess I'm watching this early. Cool project! I didn't see his socials in the description. Am I missing something?
Oops. Sorry, forgot to add it. Added now. Thanks 👍
Wow that’s massive battery power. That’s got to be 600 miles on a hot day
And a 100 on a cold day......
@@110markb
You do know that a study in the states concluded there was more loss from very hot conditions than very cold?
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Anyway, my bet is that cold = poor grip and poor grip = range loss (which would affect an ICE vehicle just as much)
Cool! 👍
Salute
I will love to do that with my 90, I'm 😮n the usa, I might just do it myself
Why not ? 👍😀
ECC, have you done any offroad colabs with US EV converters? I have yet to see any US shop developed a sealed EV offroader, any brand. The focus sees to be on roadsters.
9:18 😂 "old man noises" 😂 If your muscles are stiff then it means that you're not eating enough protein.. Great build 👍👍
Edit: the vehicle, not your body 😳
How easy was the middle battery pack to do and would you do it again instead of putting a pack elsewhere?
Flippin' great stuff, need to get my lottery ticket so my 110 can get the electric upgrade.
What a beast! I love it!
What More could you want??😊
Beer 👍👍
More beer 🍺 🍻
This is 100% the most advance EV conversion out there. It really doesnt surprise me that its come out of the ECC garage. Insane Moggy and the team #EPIC 💪⚡️💯
Thanks. 👍
You could even fit in a frunk :)
Amazing ❤ It!
Can it go bush, in rivers, etc.?
Oh yes 👍😀
Nice job. Can it cross a ford, would it damage batteries?
Which one, a Granada?
Yes, it’s able to deep wade. All sealed. 👍👍
Richard discusses fording/water crossing an EV in this clip - ruclips.net/video/lNqJyQ4zt5A/видео.htmlm9s
I'm really intrigued to know what the range on this will be, with or without the Maxxis tyres. 170kWh is huge, but it's a blunt shed.
Must be 300+ miles?
Might be less with the weight of it, the aero drag and those tires. Think hummev efficiency. 😁
22 kW AC charging, I assume, is using 3 phase current?
If the truck will be shipped for shows overseas, I assume, it has to use adaptors for charging, let's say in North America to CCS1, China to GB, in Japan to Chademo.
I believe it was way too complicated to fit high voltage batteries inside the frame of the truck, to create that famous skateboard, thus to have the ability to make battery pack of the size of
250 kW. That is the number claimed to be fit into upcoming new RAM EV truck.
250kWh would make it too heavy in a Defender. If we were building it for the US market the charge system would be different e.g. CCS1. 👍
@@ElectricClassicCars I thought this is a show truck. That being said it has to travel worldwide accompanying the company's events.
I know, most of the world follows CCS2 like in Europe. China has its own GB, a derivative of Chademo. The latter is predominant in Japan. North America slowly is transitioning from CCS1, Chademo to NACS, the traditional Tesla type connector.
However if the truck stays in Europe then yes, just CCS2 is perfect.
Nice landrover, Needs an LS.
high voltage cables without protection are exposed in rear wheel arch.
As we said in the video the project is not finished and the cables are not connected, therefore those rear cables are just hanging there in that location. Not there now. 👍
Wizard !! :)
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What’s the estimated range?
Afternoon guys
What is the range?
We want teslarossa updates! Please? 😁
After seeing the gas monkey testa ev swapped custom vert Ferrari I want to see a cleaner one that is ALL finished&daily driveable. 😎
Coming soon. 👍👍
I think we all could use a Electric Defender 130 for...... who cares what! You should name it too. how about 'Thor'.
👍👍
From hence forth it shall be named, project THOR. 😎💪
So it's going "Somewhere Hot" after Sweden?
🤔
You might be building a few more for some very wealthy clients????
All them wires
How many FIRE extinguishers do you have ?
None. I don’t own any petrol cars anymore. 😉👍
Why don't you guys make colab videos with Matt from carwow anymore?
Good idea. I think we should do some in 2024. 👍
Get those rear arches extensions off.
👍🏼🛠🔋🛻
Ok how much?
Probably round 150.000
@@lalilaloe just for the swap or all in? If I had to guess just the swap cost at least that much.
Toyota hybrids have been in production since 1997, with no change to the infrastructure, unlike all electric vehicles. Edison motors has built a logging truck which is hybrid. One of the best things about hybrids is that their fuel economy is at least 35% better than a regular automatic transmission vehicle. If emissions were truly, the target that the EPA is after they would have recommended 20 years ago that hybrids were the answer. But the EPA is controlled by lobbyists, which are paid by corporations which are owned by the private Central Bank through Vanguard and BlackRock. Which means that the private Central Bank uses the citizens as debt slaves to support the Central Bank.
Until a government buy the people and for the people is installed and the private Central Bank is no longer in existence. You will not have any progress in fuel Economy and vehicles because the trail of money goes to the private Central Bank. The culture war, also known as 5th Generation. Unlimited warfare is also being waged on us by the private Central Bank in order to break the people and take over the world. Their propaganda arm is a World Economic Forum and it states clearly that they want a one world government. All electric vehicles will not work Until the infrastructure is created. And creating an infrastructure to make electric vehicles. Work is not in the best interest of the oil companies who are owned by the bankers, etc. Etc.
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😂 old man noises
Why is sitting on a dead cow considered luxury? it's awful in hot or cold weather and looks like a football players purse. Ruins it.
For the same reason timber veneer is considered luxury. It’s more expensive then the alternative material. If car makers could use marble flooring they would. Leather is a bizarre material to use in a vehicle that actually going to do work.
It's very odd people consider a cows arse a luxury thing, there any many fabrics that work and feel better, without looking tacky and weighing a ton. Marble tho, nah, look at Trump's houses, you see luxury?
So, whats the range?
270 miles