I was on the ground with MG Donahue, I have served with Chris several times, I have known him since he was a CPT in SOF. None of us wanted it to end this way. Chris and all of us did the best we could do under the circumstances. If you want to point a finger, look a little further up the chain. Like it or not our government made a deal with the Taliban. Chris … all of us our hands were tied as the Taliban was allowed to move in on top of us. And based on the time line given to us by DC and the chain of command starting at SECDEF and Joint Chiefs, everyone us pushed as many AFG on a plane as we could. Regarding equipment left behind, we wanted as much out as possible, we did not get the approval and did not have the time. If you weren’t there you will probably never understand - halting Chris’s promotion is not the answer. If anyone wants to do some research read the closed door sessions …. DC was informed months in advance how this would play. The closed door transcripts were conveniently delayed.
You may have served under him, and he might be a good commander in full battle rattle, but a 09 has a lot of politics going on behind the scenes that you don't know or will ever hear about. Maybe his political stance is unacceptable to the incoming anti- wokeness Trump administration. Regards, 82nd Airborne 1/504th P.I.R. "Strike Hold"
Chris Donahue was sent to Afghanistan for the withdrawal after the Taliban had already occupied Kabul and the decisions had already been made. He did an awesome job with the shit sandwich he was handed. There are those who should be held accountable for that fiasco but Donahue is not one of them. He is the best commissioned officer I ever had the privilege of serving with. Those of you jumping on this bandwagon are speaking with great passion and authority about something you know exactly fck-all about.
@@Flintlock1776there is in coherent or coherent as there is civil or military office establish in Constitution Amendment XIV Section 3 (ratified 9 July 1868); so you try again; I am Class a Military V OFFICER of the United States: 1) was born U.S.ARMY, 2) raise U.S.ARMY, 3) join U.S.ARMY unit in HS, 4) Enlisted U.S.MARINES, 5) Commission U.S.MARINES OFFICER and OFFICER is establish on My DD-214; there are 3 Class: officers, Officers, which is how it establish in the Constitution of the United States of America, OFFICER; OFFICER Officers officers your Oath, all Words, are still active; as is My Military I and II Oath of Office;
As a major general he knew he knew military goes last in evacs. He failed tactics, his decision cost lives . He could have stood up as well as other generals. They all shoukd have been riffed out.
How does he deserve a 3rd star? A case can be made to stop all promotions of officers above LTC that were in Afghanistan at the end. I've known some good men that didn't make it beyond major or captain and suffered from "up or out." Retiring as a LTC is not shameful. Higher rank usually means less physical risk but it should be compensated by more responsibility for policy. Frankly, the military hasn't help higher ranking officers responsible for mistakes. For example, when a young female guard harmed the overall mission by harassing POWs, she was punished but the officer in charge of the facility wasn't held to account. Likewise, they enlisted men improperly release classified information (to include "wikileaks") not only should the enlisted man be punished but the officer who supervised him and those above him in the chain of command need to be held to account.
He was called in as the commander of our emergency response force. Not the planner of our withdrawal...things were going south and he was tapped to get the last troops out. Blame should fall on those responsible, not LTG D
@@kvinike -- Well, let the investigation continue. If it turns out his actions were reasonable, he gets his star. If he was outstanding, he gets his star and another medal. But this whole episode needs to be examined.
So, right there, isn't it a conflict of interest when corrupt government officials holding promotions of high-ranking military personnel in their hands and what exactly criteria they might use to determine whether to promote or not and what exactly do they expect in return from those that they promote ?
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Aldo Moro (23 September 1916 - 9 May 1978) was an Italian statesman and prominent member of Christian Democracy (DC) and its centre-left wing. He served as prime minister of Italy in five terms from December 1963 to June 1968 and from November 1974 to July 1976. On 16 March 1978, on via Fani, in Rome, a unit of the militant far-left organization known as Red Brigades (BR) blocked the two-car convoy that was carrying Moro and kidnapped him, murdering his five bodyguards. On the day of his kidnapping, Moro was on his way to a session of the Chamber of Deputies, where a discussion was to take place regarding a vote of confidence for a new government led by Andreotti, that would for the first time have the support of the PCI. It was to be the first implementation of Moro's strategic political vision. Additionally, he was considered to be the frontrunner for the 1978 Italian presidential election. In the following days, trade unions called for a general strike, while security forces made hundreds of raids in Rome, Milan, Turin, and other cities searching for Moro's location, as places linked to Moro and the kidnapping became centres of minor pilgrimage. An estimate 16 million Italians took part in the mass public demonstrations. After a few days, even Pope Paul VI, a close friend of Moro's, intervened, offering himself in exchange for Moro. Despite the 13,000 police officers mobilized, 40,000 house searches, and 72,000 road blocks, the police did not carry out any arrests.
There have to be consequences for a $hitty job. And yes, blame goes all the way up the chain. Who pinned the third star on this guy? No more failing upwards. U eff up. U r gone to the greener pastures.
Actually, he was not very likely in charge of that disaster. He was given stupid, ill prepared pull out orders, with an insufficient time frame to accomplish it, from the idiots in the executive branch of our government. From my perspective, the disaster is Senator Mullin. He should know better because he was Special Forces soldier, has a full understanding and working knowledge the command structure. I'm wondering, would Mullin have done a better job following the executive branch orders, to ensure that this did not end in a disaster? Tommy Tuberville on the other hand, is not a Veteran. In my opinion, he is simply ignorant, arrogant and uniformed, using the system to get TV time, peer and constituent attention. Both Mullin and Tuberville suck and if allowed to continue will turn our military command into what the other third world command structures look like. I worked in the field and garrison with Generals and other high-ranking officers, many of which were Pathfinder Rangers. During my service I observed commitment, professionalism and above all, were focused on following orders from our commander and chief, from all of them. Like it or not, this was a failure from the top.
@Mark-EFMB-Combat-Medic he was the general in charge. He should have fought back offering a better plan. No. He chose to just be what they wanted to keep his cushy position. He failed the US. He failed the people of afghanistan worse! We will never be respected in that part of the world again thay were relying on us to deliver what we promised. Instead, we turned tail and ran. We left billions in useable equipment. We armed the taliban with their dream military. We ran away. Thats not ok.
@@robertdinicola9225 He followed what he believed were lawful orders. That's what subordinate military members are required to do. Regardless of rank. You can bet your ass he pushed back regarding his direct command chain. Everybody knew this was a shit show from the beginning.
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Not sorry because there is a lot of people that have made our military into an embarrassment and disaster over the last few years the do not deserve promotions.
Name the flag officers that stepped up. They all should be asked how they increase and support readiness. Answer the questions with the candor required. How does your promotion and pay raise benefit the service. Why the job cannot be performed at your current rank except for bloat.
America, I will surely miss you and everything you represented. The overturning of our democracy and everyone's rights has already begun. Who else wants to bet that the guy wasn't a trump supporter?
He was called in as the commander of our emergency response force to ensure the last troops made it out. He was not a commander in Afghanistan making decisions prior to the very end.
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General Donahue was not a decision maker when he received the order to send members of his Division to Afghanistan.
God they Mucked that up.
By "they" I hope you mean Trump as the withdrawal was his idea.
I was on the ground with MG Donahue, I have served with Chris several times, I have known him since he was a CPT in SOF. None of us wanted it to end this way. Chris and all of us did the best we could do under the circumstances. If you want to point a finger, look a little further up the chain. Like it or not our government made a deal with the Taliban. Chris … all of us our hands were tied as the Taliban was allowed to move in on top of us. And based on the time line given to us by DC and the chain of command starting at SECDEF and Joint Chiefs, everyone us pushed as many AFG on a plane as we could. Regarding equipment left behind, we wanted as much out as possible, we did not get the approval and did not have the time. If you weren’t there you will probably never understand - halting Chris’s promotion is not the answer. If anyone wants to do some research read the closed door sessions …. DC was informed months in advance how this would play. The closed door transcripts were conveniently delayed.
President Trump will retire him for incompetence very soon... Semper Fi...
Spot on. Scotty M. warned them.
You may have served under him, and he might be a good commander in full battle rattle, but a 09 has a lot of politics going on behind the scenes that you don't know or will ever hear about. Maybe his political stance is unacceptable to the incoming anti- wokeness Trump administration. Regards, 82nd Airborne 1/504th P.I.R. "Strike Hold"
Chris Donahue was sent to Afghanistan for the withdrawal after the Taliban had already occupied Kabul and the decisions had already been made. He did an awesome job with the shit sandwich he was handed. There are those who should be held accountable for that fiasco but Donahue is not one of them. He is the best commissioned officer I ever had the privilege of serving with. Those of you jumping on this bandwagon are speaking with great passion and authority about something you know exactly fck-all about.
@@Flintlock1776 💯
he is a General which is Part of his Name be cause he is Military not a civil or civilian;
@@paulrodgers252 incoherent. Try again.
@@Flintlock1776there is in coherent or coherent as there is civil or military office establish in Constitution Amendment XIV Section 3 (ratified 9 July 1868); so you try again;
I am Class a Military V OFFICER of the United States: 1) was born U.S.ARMY, 2) raise U.S.ARMY, 3) join U.S.ARMY unit in HS, 4) Enlisted U.S.MARINES, 5) Commission U.S.MARINES OFFICER and OFFICER is establish on My DD-214;
there are 3 Class: officers, Officers, which is how it establish in the Constitution of the United States of America, OFFICER;
OFFICER
Officers
officers
your Oath, all Words, are still active; as is My Military I and II Oath of Office;
A clear example of loyalty to a "king" over patriotism of the country.
As a major general he knew he knew military goes last in evacs. He failed tactics, his decision cost lives . He could have stood up as well as other generals. They all shoukd have been riffed out.
How does he deserve a 3rd star? A case can be made to stop all promotions of officers above LTC that were in Afghanistan at the end.
I've known some good men that didn't make it beyond major or captain and suffered from "up or out." Retiring as a LTC is not shameful. Higher rank usually means less physical risk but it should be compensated by more responsibility for policy.
Frankly, the military hasn't help higher ranking officers responsible for mistakes. For example, when a young female guard harmed the overall mission by harassing POWs, she was punished but the officer in charge of the facility wasn't held to account. Likewise, they enlisted men improperly release classified information (to include "wikileaks") not only should the enlisted man be punished but the officer who supervised him and those above him in the chain of command need to be held to account.
He was called in as the commander of our emergency response force. Not the planner of our withdrawal...things were going south and he was tapped to get the last troops out. Blame should fall on those responsible, not LTG D
@@kvinike -- Well, let the investigation continue. If it turns out his actions were reasonable, he gets his star. If he was outstanding, he gets his star and another medal. But this whole episode needs to be examined.
So, right there, isn't it a conflict of interest when corrupt government officials holding promotions of high-ranking military personnel in their hands and what exactly criteria they might use to determine whether to promote or not and what exactly do they expect in return from those that they promote ?
It should be more like how I think it should be
Good the officers involved with any part of that withdrawal need to be held accountable
A Camouflaged Struggle.
Carl Vinson - An Unprecedented Act.
MTG - A Privileged Motion.
LBJ - Richard Brevard Russell and Carl Vinson . . .
Universal Military Training Under Privileged Legislation.
by what Authority gives the Senate the Power to determine which Military Officers to not Promote or Promote?
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Most of those General will be dismissed anyways and some may be prosecuted for dereliction of duty come January 20th 🔥
It’s “Generals” Vlad. Russian speakers always misuse plural sense in English.
@@derrickdavis7524 TDS much?
@@warglo6170 He is just pointing out the bot.
A flag officer is a commissioned officer in a nation's armed forces senior enough to be entitled to fly a flag to mark the position from which that officer exercises command.
Might not have anything todo with the Afghanistan withdrawal could be something unknown the senator hasn't stated why
They will be held accountable.
Aldo Moro (23 September 1916 - 9 May 1978) was an Italian statesman and prominent member of Christian Democracy (DC) and its centre-left wing. He served as prime minister of Italy in five terms from December 1963 to June 1968 and from November 1974 to July 1976.
On 16 March 1978, on via Fani, in Rome, a unit of the militant far-left organization known as Red Brigades (BR) blocked the two-car convoy that was carrying Moro and kidnapped him, murdering his five bodyguards.
On the day of his kidnapping, Moro was on his way to a session of the Chamber of Deputies, where a discussion was to take place regarding a vote of confidence for a new government led by Andreotti, that would for the first time have the support of the PCI. It was to be the first implementation of Moro's strategic political vision.
Additionally, he was considered to be the frontrunner for the 1978 Italian presidential election.
In the following days, trade unions called for a general strike, while security forces made hundreds of raids in Rome, Milan, Turin, and other cities searching for Moro's location, as places linked to Moro and the kidnapping became centres of minor pilgrimage. An estimate 16 million Italians took part in the mass public demonstrations. After a few days, even Pope Paul VI, a close friend of Moro's, intervened, offering himself in exchange for Moro.
Despite the 13,000 police officers mobilized, 40,000 house searches, and 72,000 road blocks, the police did not carry out any arrests.
It starts at the top biden and harris and goes down from there!
It starts with Trump. The withdrawal was a part of the treaty HE signed. Biden had no choice but to honor it.
He doesn't deserve a promotion for failure
You have exactly no idea what you are talking about.
@Flintlock1776 He failed on the mission to protect allies and take care of his soldiers
Where there’s smoke there’s fire , just check it out , you have to start somewhere!
Bullshit.
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Thank you
There have to be consequences for a $hitty job. And yes, blame goes all the way up the chain. Who pinned the third star on this guy? No more failing upwards. U eff up. U r gone to the greener pastures.
You know exactly nothing.
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Good shit! None of these clowns are never held accountable. They just leave in make millions as consultants in the defense industry.
Says someone who never served and knows exactly nothing.
@@Flintlock1776 ok Donahue LMAOOO
He’s a DEI proponent 🤔
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How can you promote the guy in charge of that disaster? 😂 WTF?
Actually, he was not very likely in charge of that disaster. He was given stupid, ill prepared pull out orders, with an insufficient time frame to accomplish it, from the idiots in the executive branch of our government. From my perspective, the disaster is Senator Mullin. He should know better because he was Special Forces soldier, has a full understanding and working knowledge the command structure. I'm wondering, would Mullin have done a better job following the executive branch orders, to ensure that this did not end in a disaster?
Tommy Tuberville on the other hand, is not a Veteran. In my opinion, he is simply ignorant, arrogant and uniformed, using the system to get TV time, peer and constituent attention.
Both Mullin and Tuberville suck and if allowed to continue will turn our military command into what the other third world command structures look like.
I worked in the field and garrison with Generals and other high-ranking officers, many of which were Pathfinder Rangers. During my service I observed commitment, professionalism and above all, were focused on following orders from our commander and chief, from all of them. Like it or not, this was a failure from the top.
@Mark-EFMB-Combat-Medic he was the general in charge. He should have fought back offering a better plan. No. He chose to just be what they wanted to keep his cushy position. He failed the US. He failed the people of afghanistan worse! We will never be respected in that part of the world again thay were relying on us to deliver what we promised. Instead, we turned tail and ran. We left billions in useable equipment. We armed the taliban with their dream military. We ran away. Thats not ok.
@@robertdinicola9225 He followed what he believed were lawful orders. That's what subordinate military members are required to do. Regardless of rank. You can bet your ass he pushed back regarding his direct command chain. Everybody knew this was a shit show from the beginning.
@Mark-EFMB-Combat-Medic yeah, your most likley right. I hope so. We need men ready to stand up. Im old now. I can't do much.
Because he wasn't in charge of it.
Indian Reservation (The Lament of the Cherokee Reservation Indian)" is a song written by John D. Loudermilk.
It was first recorded by Marvin Rainwater in 1959 and released on MGM as "The Pale Faced Indian", but that release went unnoticed.
The first hit version was a 1968 recording by Don Fardon - a former member of the Sorrows - that reached number 20 on the Hot 100 in 1968 and number 3 on the UK Singles Chart in 1970.
Not sorry because there is a lot of people that have made our military into an embarrassment and disaster over the last few years the do not deserve promotions.
Really??? List 5 examples.
And Donahue is not one of them.
ONLY? 4 star generals...🤦
Where's Ted Cruz?
Name the flag officers that stepped up. They all should be asked how they increase and support readiness. Answer the questions with the candor required. How does your promotion and pay raise benefit the service. Why the job cannot be performed at your current rank except for bloat.
Following in the footsteps of Senator Tuberville. Throw out the clock watching deadwood brass.
Goodbye America.
Just when you make your plan God may change your plan. Or one of God's witnesses. Only stupid people test their luck and God. 👌
This is stupidity...service members follow orders....its the ones over them that are at fault..🤦♂️...idiot politicians...smh.
America, I will surely miss you and everything you represented.
The overturning of our democracy and everyone's rights has already begun.
Who else wants to bet that the guy wasn't a trump supporter?
Then move to another country is you believe your bs.
This is unbelievably stupid - this man followed orders given to him. Shit orders but did the absolute best he could.
You have absolutely no idea what the reason he's being blocked is and are just making a baseless assumption.
@ surrreee Steve. If you insist.
He was called in as the commander of our emergency response force to ensure the last troops made it out. He was not a commander in Afghanistan making decisions prior to the very end.
@ thank you!!
He only followed orders he was not responsebil
At this rank. He gives orders and plans.. .. Not take orders..
How did that defense work for the Nazi guards at the camps?
Lt Calley was given Orders for My Lai, still didn't make it right...
And that their choice
That in itself is evidence
Red dot.
Oh a gop senator there has to be problem or s history of corruption
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