Interesting topic, Remember… it’s called the music BUSINESS for a reason. I’ve dialed it back quite a bit, especially buying multiple copies of stuff I already own. The curse of the COLLECTORS is real…..and they know this, all too well.🎶✌️
I have a new rule I set for myself. I only purchase physical copies of my favourite albums and bands. Everything else now I just stream. I save money and space, and don't plunk money down on something I'll only listen to once or twice. I sold off some music recently I haven't listened to for years, and happy for the downsize.
Eddies Archive may be objectively the best metal box set ever. For musical content (still stuff only exclusive to that set not even streamable) and prsentation, that Eddie head design was inspired.
Awesome Blaze Bayley t-shirt there!!! I only have one box set - namely, the Bruce Dickinson "Soloworks", and that's only because it allowed me to buy all his solo releases on vinyl in one fell swoop... and pay less than I would had I bought each album individually.
@@BrendonSnyder Got to hope it comes out on cd; no turntable any longer. Still have a few hundred lps but no way to play them. Would like to pick that one up though.
Great piece here guys, I'd definitely say that these pieces are getting higher and higher in pricing, especially the CD version of All Things Must Pass, and even the Let it Be set to an extent.
Super Deluxe editions boxsets are getting way more pricing. They’re becoming like concert tickets. All I want is to see a show. I don’t need golden circle special seating with merchandise included. There are bands that do it right though so we have to be thankful for that.
Absolutely, I saw the Monkees last month and had stellar seats for under 80 bucks, about 10 rows from the front. Other bands like The Eagles charge 250 for nosebleeds.
I haven't bought too many box sets, myself. I think the last one I got was a Christmas gift, and that was Bruce Springsteen's "Tracks," which is a really nice collection. I've got a four or five disc Motown one which assembles all those old hits into one collection, and it was cheap, so that was well worth the money. There are a few more collections I have bought over the years like that one. For me, being a working musician, I spend more money on my "tools" that I need for my job. This past year I bought an old Takamine guitar, to replace my longtime one that was stolen, and that was $450, and then I started looking around for "spares" for my various pedals that I use, as I am always afraid of them getting damaged by rain and moisture when playing my many outdoor gigs, so I got a spare TC Helicon Harmonizer pedal for $350, and a spare Marshall Supervibe stereo chorus pedal, the first model, which I tracked down in the Netherlands, for $150, since my original one that I use for my live gigs now has a bit of an odd "chirping" sound to it, due to water damage, and isn't suitable for doing recordings. So in the end, I guess it's all a matter of priorities. My son is like you guys. He will spend a lot of money on a rare book, but he is a collector.
I love boxsets like Bruce Springsteen’s Tracks. A boxset of all unreleased studio songs. There are so few bands that have this much back catalogue of recorded material who can do this. Bon Jovi are another band who released a complete boxset of all unreleased studio recordings. I wish this was possible from all my favorite bands!
There are a couple of ways to look at it, I myself will usually wait until someone else will buy it and do a review or unboxing on RUclips. I did this when David Coverdale of White snake announced they were doing anniversary box sets of the groups albums, that way I get to see what's in the set I wanted and then decided if it was worth the price or not. I plan on doing this again when Black Sabbath does this for the Born Again box set when it becomes available to the public.
That’s a good logic. I just can’t wait that long. I need these things when they come out so I do my homework in advance. As for a Born Again boxset, I think that’s highly unlikely. The album just wasn’t successful enough to warrant a boxset. If they aren’t even releasing all of the Ozzy era albums as boxsets I don’t think we will see some of the lesser known titles. But hey I hope it happens because I really like the album a lot.
Unreleased tracks, demo's and live performances is what I love in a set. Slayer's Soundtrack to the Apocalypse disc 3 had my biggest interest. That's my first CD set since beginning my CD collection last week.
Hi Brendon!! this is an interesting topic, back in the day when boxsets started to appear it was the best way to get some rare stuff like live show or performances and demos or b sides like Maiden's "Eddies Archive", Pink Floyd's "Dark Side of the Moon", nowadays this kind of "product" is the latest thing the industry have to still make some money from the catalogue they own. To me i don't how many times i have heard the alternative takes, demos, mixes of the original album are worth the money and yes the retail price is the main issue..... cheers and be well
Yeah it’s interesting as the boxset used to be a celebration and a rarity among releases. Now it’s becoming the standard or norm and it’s no long the special thing it once was. On top of that they’re flooding the market. Like most things the industry will burn itself out on boxsets and kill them too.
It’s one big dark hole to go down into! Storage of these large box sets can become an issue! I like those little five disc box sets. I own a few of them and they’re reasonably priced!
An example of great box sets are the ones put out by Jethro Tull. Stereo and 5.1 mixes by Steven Wilson, as well as the original mixes, tons of bonus content and usually a live concert. All that with a 96 page book! They are also the perfect size for easy storage. I wish all of the other bands would follow their format.
I think the reason for these box sets is the fact that you can't sell just the music anymore, because one can just listen to it through RUclips or Spotify etc. So the record companies have to sell the "stuff" that is extra.
I agree that’s exactly why they are doing it. They are trying to sell more to one person instead of a little to a lot of people. It’s their new business model.
Hi Guys, Great episode!! I want to add Metallica did a really great job with their box sets and of course you mentioned Whitesnake!! To me they did the best job on their box sets.
For me the Metallica boxes are well done but they duplicate so much material. For me I don’t need an early take, a demo, a later take, and 6 live versions of the same song. But I’m glad they offered the 3 disc editions that was just right for me.
I thought the Metallica ones were well done with a TON of content but I felt the live shows were lacking in quality. I'm sure they have multi-track recordings of many shows and most of the shows were ok at best quality-wise. Kind of a bummer, but man they gave you BOATLOADS of content.
Bought Chris Cornell super deluxe box set includes 7 Lps. 4 cds. Dvd. One of the disc have unreleased songs. Get 66 page book hardcover. Record mat. Cloth lithographs. I paid 202 dollars. Worth every penny I love boxset.
23:38 that’s like the AC/DC “Backtracks” box. The deluxe version has a couple extra songs (Australian edits) on the discs that were in the standard version. Why why why why WHY couldn’t they also be on the standard edition? Deluxe box is cool but I can’t justify $150 on Amazon for it when the main stuff I want is on the $30 standard version, sans the extra songs.
No the deluxe edition is 5 discs. Two addition discs that aren’t in the standard one. Plus the vinyl, a bunch of replica items and the amp actually works!!! Come on man that’s pretty amazing if you ask i me….but then I own it 👍
Very true! I always do my homework. But in the case of the new Kiss Destroyer boxset, I don’t think they properly explained and showed what would be in it. I felt it wasn’t going to be worth it and almost passed. But once it arrived it was way better than expected.
I think it depends on how much of a fan you are of said band & whether or not they include enough additional content be it songs you can't find elsewhere or rare items like booklets, tour books, rare art & the like.
Excellent video, guys! I enjoy box sets but they have to be put together thoughtfully for me to buy them. I really like seeing live material in box sets such as the deluxe or super deluxe album boxes but If you're going to include 4 unreleased live shows on 4 discs and all of them are almost identical set lists I'm not going to hand over $100+ for that box set. That's like getting one live show and the other 3 are thrown in just to justify the cost. That's the very definition of a cash grab to me. I think you can often tell when a box set was carefully thought out and put together in a smart way that would give fans something to really enjoy vs. when it's just a complete money grab.
Mel, I feel the same way! I don’t know duplicate live shows that have the same setlist. It drives me nuts when bands duplicate songs and versions of songs in these deluxe editions. If they do they need to keep them to separate discs. I hate when they put 3 versions of the same song in a row. For me I can’t listen to a disc that has repeated songs unless it’s thought about like the first and last one repeats.
I'm all about the music and just the music. I love rarities. In particular, I love unreleased studio tracks. I'm not big on outtakes or live material. A lot of sets are coming out tiered - just the album, deluxe set, and super deluxe. Imo, there is just way too much disparity between deluxe and super deluxe sets. I'd love to see an added tier for those who want all the music without all the trinkets.
I’d love to see that as well. Unfortunately the reason the trinkets are there is so they can charge more. If they remove it they are removing money they can make. So it’s unlikely we will see the music only edition. Probably also because streaming is already the music only edition.
Hi Chris and Brendon thank you for doing a video close to my heart I guess record companies have the upper hand and kind of play on fans loyalty of artists for me the best ones value wise are the jethro tull and marillion bruce springsteen are great too as well as the thin lizzy rock legends which include a lot fresh demos 99 songs worth but the demos are finished songs and you get tour book poetry book cards and here I pay willingly unfortunately most of the time we have to pray for a deal I am a cd box set aficionado so often in the words of Jerry Mcguire's love interest they have me at hello or at the pre order announcement although I am working hard at being selective now God bless you both and thanks again 😊
You’re like me Tino, if it’s from my favorite band they have me at “hello”. But in the last few years I’ve had to pull back as there are just too many boxsets. Not only are they not all worth the cost but I’m running out of space. Haha
The Jethro Tull box sets are the ones that I do buy and are the standard against which I base my judgement on whether or not to get a set - remixed album, unreleased good sounding live show, DVD/BluRay of a live show if possible, unrleased additional songs that are every bit as good - and sometimes better - than the songs on the album but were lef off for whatever reason. As for cost, I nearly didnt buy Black Sabbath's Technical Ecstasy set, despite it being my favourite Sabbath album, as initially it was advertised at twice the price I eventually paid for it - and then I had to import it from the US into the UK.However I'm glad I did as the remix and live (albeit form an bootleg I already own) and the alternative takes make it worthwhile - the remastered album was a bit unneccesary however it keeps it all in one nice package wioth a nice book - even though it didnt incude any notes from Steven Wilson regarding the remixing. The sets that I get totally annoyed with are those where they have a number of unreleased live recordings that I would like to get, but at the same time include all the already released albums - I'm thinking Wishbone Ash, ELP, Gentle Giant and now Judas Priest - especally where the albums in the Priest set dont even have the bonus tracks that were on the previous remasters. Those sets are both way beyond my price point and in all cases I've already shelled out for the albums , in some cases two or three times - original vinyl LP, CD when first released and then Remaster with some bonus tracks and then maybe another remaster with more bonus tracks. Yes I could resell the CDs I've already purchased but they'll not get a good price and I object to having to do so. In all the above bands' cases , had they just released the live CDs in the sets at half the box set price I would have bought them. And I would think any long standing fan of those or any band for that matter, will already have bought most if not all the offcial releases at least once - therefore to me those sets are purely cash grabs. Sets like the Kiss one where there are works in progress are great if you are a big fan of the band - but if you are an inbetween big and casual fan then maybe not such great value. Yes did a great set on Rhino called The World is Live where they released three CDs of unreleased live bootleg recordings, tidied up a bit. Same thing when ELP did their Bootleg Box set - in both cases I did have some of the boots included, however it was good to have them in an official package. Most of the Priest live sets in their box have also been available as bootlegs for a while - along with many others - but I still would buy an official release of them because I'm a fan of the band - but not when the set is stuffed full of stuff I already have and at an extortionate price.
As much as I like replica programs with anniversary CD box sets,the tiny print is tough on my aging eyes. I'm retired and on a fixed income, so I generally don't re-buy albums any more.Back when I earned a decent wage, I bought boxsets ,Tour Editions, etc, cuz I didn't have one song.
Blue Note had a box set series called "Blue Note Review". It was supposed to be an ongoing subscription type service, However, they put out only two volumes a few years ago and stopped all of a sudden. Anyone know why?
My guess is that not enough people signed up for it to make it profitable so it stopped. I’ve bought into two things like that before and neither one completed. One was from Jon Anderson of Yes and the other was guitarist Steve Vai. It seems these things have good intentions but rarely actually finish.
Good topic. 👍 I had this feeling with the Senjutsu box set. The one with the bluray and all. I didn't think it was worth the 100€, so I actually didn't buy it. Although I like the design of the box itself.
I don't mind picking up these 5 in 1 box sets, the bang for the buck is great and they don't take up much room on the shelves. But I'm really getting annoyed with al this 40th anniversary material, I have to really like a band to buy them. Keep up the great video's
Yeah the little mini boxsets with 3 to 5 albums in them are great. Still they could add a little bit more like a booklet from all the art that was in the original editions. Still I’m glad to get some out of print albums that way.
I know lots of people like them but I felt they had way too much duplicate material. For the price they filled it jamb packed with stuff. But for me I only needed the 3 disc versions. Thank goodness they offered those though.
Lovely video! On the cash grab side, few can beat the PF immersion box sets. IMO, why would you need coloured marbles with its corresponding protection bag?! No written essay, only recycled photographs!! Pitiful!!
What?! I love those!! But it wasn’t all about the marbles…there was lots of unreleased bonus music as well. At least for Darkside and The Wall. For Wish You We’re Here I opted for the 2 CD version.
@@BrendonSnyder come on! As big a fan of the Floyd that we are, to me it’s a bit of a cash grab. A scarf!? Are they for real?! Don’t get me wrong, even though I’m utterly biased, those immersion sets are for the fan-collector-completist-die-hard-and-revive-again fans, like us all, but I often wonder, if they had included a nice coffee table book with an in depth essay and NEW interviews with all involved personnel (throwing on some archive less seen pics), much like those awesome Jethro Tull box sets. To me that is how is done: less tour replicas and more words. Of course, none of the above would be of significance, without a nice new mix, a really well recorded concert… and, the obligatory non-album tracks, alternative mixes, and worthy demos, all that good stuff! I get your point, Branden, however (and this is a huge however), it’s not for everyone and they could have made those sets much better, I think! What do I know! I’m just a silly collector! (5 copies of Fragile isn’t enough, but when is enough? ; ) )! Cheers!
@Terrence Reardon and Friends Podcast Podcast Glad you liked them! As said before, it’s not for everyone, and these Floyd sets were bloody expensive! I do love the Floyd, but sometimes as a connoisseur you want more and you get picky! Cheers!
I bought the motley crue music to crash your car by to get the original lethur disc of too fast for love ...I got every zepplinn song in 2 box sets ..but I really like the bonjovi box set 100 million fans can't be wrong great tracks
Bear Family in Germany is known for archival boxed sets with everything released, all kinds of alternate takes, etc. with liner notes book with sessionography info, etc. of mostly very hard to find rockabilly, vintage country, etc. stuff, much of it often isn't on CD elsewhere. For example, who else would put out a boxed set of Kitty Wells, Carter Family, etc. spanning entire careers on multiple labels?
True that about Bear Family box sets. All of them come with huge books chocked full of info; who played on tracks, where/when recorded. The books are quite a draw for me. Certain the Buck Owens set that Chris held up was Bear Family product.
Great discussion. Thanks guys. For the most part, I'm ok with most of my box sets. However, I was dissapointed with the Black Sabbath "Sabbotage" box. There were no outakes, alternate mixes or remixes. Of the four box sets they have out currently, I felt this one was a ripoff. Another example was the ridiculously overpriced "deluxe" box set of Iron Maiden's "Senjutsu". I paid $150 for about $60 worth of stuff, including a cd I already purchased seperately.
I agree with both of those boxsets not being up to par and way overpriced for what they did or didn’t contain. I stayed clear on both of them. But I’m also a completist and so I hate not having them in the collection too.
Marbles, Yup, Marbles and wrinkled posters is all I want in a box set. That and..... 1. Original Remastered album and Re-mixed version if applicable. 2. Vinyl version of above 3. BluRay of Hi rez stereo, quad mixes and 5.1 mixes 4. rare, live, demo and unreleased discs 5. a Needle-drop of a 1st edition pressing included on BluRay. (Yes did this) 6. Hi Rez download card 7. Large hardbound book. 8. Concert DVD/BR is a plus 9. Swag
"Volume 4" does have Demos and allternate takes. And stuff from the studio in which they're just starting a song and shit like this. "Paranoid" has two Live-CDs.
@@oliverl.5834 Paranoid was the first and best one so far. Sabotage was a absolute rip off. But what do I know, I've still bought them! In the UK where I live they are also laughingly overpriced.
Paranoid also has the 1974 Quad recording. Also being the first in the series of boxsets I shelled out for it. But now I don’t need one for each album unless it’s coming with something extra the way the Technical Ecstasy box has both demos and a new remix.
Because i have limited cash for box sets i have to cherry pick what i will get.I ordered the Metallica delux box set but cancelled it not because of price but i saw unboxing on youtube and i wasnt impressed by the presentation of it in the box so cancelled and got triple cd edition instead. i have the original 12" box set of singles.The Ace Of Spades anniversary on the other hand is awesome.Wildflowers i liked which i bought solely on reviews.But as with most things music if you like it then its value for money .My main gripe is that you buy a new album then 6 months record company releases a different version.
I felt the same way for the Metallica boxsets. For what they contain they are a good price. But I don’t need multiple live shows, band interviews, and 6 versions of the same song. But that’s just me.
Motley’s The End box set let me down because they ignored several albums and no music videos or a vintage live show or current live show. Crues my favorite band still tho lol. I just am a kitchen sink guy. If you’re putting out a box set then put it ALL in!!! Videos, live stuff, b sides, out takes, rarities, keychain, patch or sticker etc. even if there’s line up changes. Fans are fans n we want it all lol
Their last couple boxsets and deluxe album reissues have been really underwhelming. Most of them just releasing the same bonus tracks as before but adding lots of memorabilia. Unfortunately that is not enough for me.
Because of licensing issues, one usually needs to buy two or three discs to get everything they want. Having said that I expect exceptional sound quality from box sets.
@@BrendonSnyder oh and I have both the Crüe’s Music to Crash your Car to box sets. And the Kissology vol 1 and 2. The guitar case edition must be cool. The original Hanoi Rocks box set. And for last Christmas I got the NWOBHM band Demon’s Japanese box set. And the Magnum one and the UFO Strangers in the Night recordings . Oh, I love box sets (although I struggle with multiple remixes). Ref your Tee Shirt, Is The WHO’s box set any good? Great video by the way. Love the passion we all share!
Im a sucker for a nice box set if I own the music or not. It can free up the single copies to sell/give away though. $200 for the Destroyer box?! It has tons of extras though.
The Destroyer box is a complete package featuring remastered sound, alternate versions, unreleased material, an amazing book, and cool memorabilia reproductions. If you’re into all of that the price tag is fine. But lots of people only want one piece of it and so $200 can be hard to swallow. I’m glad I shelled out for it. This boy is still smiling and enjoying it.
The two main guys Waters and Gilmour have finally come to an agreement on it and it looks to be happening. I’m expecting it will be released next year for the 45th anniversary. But there hasn’t been an announcement yet.
Jethro Tull did the box set right. From This Was to A so far, all Steven Wilson remastered with most mixed 5.1 which is what I look for in box sets. Uniform packaging in book like form and under $40. Live shows, videos and comprehensive booklets.
@@BrendonSnyder I did preorder all of the Tull Boxes from Amazon and that's normally the lowest price. Just got the Benefit box for $38.93. Barely under but it made it.
Have owned several box sets over the years. A lot are definitely worth the price (the Tom Petty 1994 "Playback" set was 6 cd's - one of nothing but B Sides and two of new/previously unreleased material, and the very first Mudcrutch 45 - for about $50!), and others are like....ummm, really?
I love boxsets but just want to content to make it worth buying. If I’ve never owned the album before then it’s great no matter what. But if I already own the album and have to replace it, I would like it to be worth it to me.
What I find strange is there are a few bands who have already made more money than they can spend who create boxed sets with exorbitant prices. I also bought the Kiss Destroyer box and I do enjoy it and the non musical content, but I believe this should have been $100 and not $200. Like you, I am also a huge Pink Floyd fanatic and I shelled out for those as well, but those were way overpriced too. With The Later Years, they have continued to milk the fans by releasing Delicate Sound of Thunder, Knebworth, and A Momentary Lapse of Reason Remix. The Early Years should have been $300 and The Later Years should have been maybe $200. Other bands are doing superb bang for the buck. The Jethro Tull anniversary book boxes are roughly $35-$45 dollars for an average of 3-4 CDs and 2 DVDs with a book in the middle LOADED with information, history, etc. I have enjoyed the Sabbath Deluxe CD boxes and the Whitesnake ones are great too. I think the Metallica boxes are great content for the price too. I do think the black album box should have been a little lower in price like the previous ones were. Like you guys say, we’re fans. We may snarl and grumble about some of the boxes and prices, but we will follow our fandom - we pick our battles. Like you, I considered the big Tattoo You box, but the extra money for the live CDs is not worth it. Frank Zappa’s family has been doing great boxed sets for the price. I picked up The Hot Rats Sessions 6CD for under $100 and it is super high quality. Sometimes the non music bonus content is baffling and I am thinking specifically of the Pink Floyd Immersion sets with scarves, marbles, and other useless throwaway stuff. Another really great set recently is the Thin Lizzy 6CD set with all the lyrics, tour books, etc.
Yes you have to pick and choose carefully, it's a cash cow for many bands, I think Motley Crue are the worst, yet they know the fans will pay for the same shit and a little extra . The best is if you want to discover an artist from scratch then it's often a good way 👍
Addiction to superdeluxe box sets is the new trendy malady requiring rehab and confessions in a group circle. You can always spot collectors with +100 superdeluxe box sets because they drool spinal fluid out the corner of their mouth. And twitch.
Boxsets give you a good view of what a band is ready to do for the fans : Metallica, for exemple, put out a huge amount of stuff for the Black Album anniversary, and it was "only" 200 euros or so. On the other hand, you have to pay the same price for the MODE box by Depeche Mode, with nothing really new on it, just the albums and the b-sides. My guess is : "content" is when a band really cares about what is released ; "cash grab" is when the label runs everything. Too bad for me, I'm a Depeche Mode fan 😁
The Depeche Mode boxset had 4 CD’s on non-albums and unreleased tracks! Plus it included their entire studio catalogue. That’s a lot more than Metallica is doing on single album releases. While I agree the Metallica boxes are value packed, you’re comparing apples to oranges with these two types. I’ve done a full review of the Depeche Mode boxset which I got for $350 if you want to know more about it, see link ruclips.net/video/tinzmefZrWI/видео.html
@@BrendonSnyder I understand what you mean, a whole catalog can't be compared with a single album. But as a fan, I would have loved it if DM had released live stuff, demo stuff like Metallica did. A lot of DM fans complained about it, and it's the same thing for the upcoming 101 reissue. Okay, it's a bluray, but you have only 3 unreleased performances. I don't know, maybe Metallica fans are also disappointed... However, I'm still glad to have bought the MODE box, it became so rare so quickly !
I haven’t bought any of the Metallica boxsets yet because so much material is duplicated. While there is value in the 10+ discs in each box, I don’t need multiple live concerts and multiple demo recordings that duplicate songs so that I end up with 6 live version of a song and 6 demos of the same song. Plus for me I have zero interest in hearing an interview disc. Maybe because I lived through it already but it would have been more interesting for them to film a new interview about their memories and include it. While I know Metallica doesn’t have unreleased recordings to include because they only record exactly what they write, still it’s disappointing to not get any outtakes or new material. So I’ve just purchased the 3 CD set versions. I think it’s all in the eye of the beholder. What doesn’t work for me works for someone else and visa versa.
What's your opinion on box sets that bootleg companies put out? There is a individual on RUclips that has many of these KISS ones that someone is putting out and he's getting alot of lets just say not nice comments that people think it's this person who is making them, yet I must say the packaging on some of them looks great but are asking more than the Destroyer box set.the persons ID is Rock Hard 1964
My intake of bootlegs is very limited. First the quality of both the material and packing has to be very high quality. Second, the music has to not be available from the band. If the band has their own out I’d rather buy that one over a bootleg.
for me i love boxsets with demos and a 5.1 surround sound especially if it's a SW mix.but with Kiss I never was a Kiss fan and th price doesn't justify it for me.
Yeah the price does discourage all but the hardcore fan. And even then some of them aren’t buying either. They did a disservice by not providing and in between version with more than the 2 disc but maybe without all the memorabilia. They might have sold more.
I don’t buy these deluxe anniversary versions of single albums if I already own them. So I haven’t jumped on these Black Sabbath, Jethro Tull deluxe reissue things, for example. But I was impressed by what was in the Kiss-Destroyer box. I really do like the cheap multi-album box sets where you can get a chunk of a discography at a good price. However I also agree with Brendon that you do not always get a booklet or even full album artwork with these particular type of sets.
Beatles stones pink Floyd is about it for me if I still dad my old income I would buy more I make forty grand less a year now so my piggy bank is on a special diet he's not happy about it
Interesting topic,
Remember… it’s called the music BUSINESS for a reason. I’ve dialed it back quite a bit, especially buying multiple copies of stuff I already own. The curse of the COLLECTORS is real…..and they know this, all too well.🎶✌️
So very true on so many levels…and I feel your pain!
I have a new rule I set for myself. I only purchase physical copies of my favourite albums and bands. Everything else now I just stream. I save money and space, and don't plunk money down on something I'll only listen to once or twice. I sold off some music recently I haven't listened to for years, and happy for the downsize.
Maiden’s box, “Eddie’s Archive”, was an example of a great set! The live stuff was this fan’s wet dream!
That’s one of my favorite boxsets too! They really did it right.
Eddies Archive may be objectively the best metal box set ever. For musical content (still stuff only exclusive to that set not even streamable) and prsentation, that Eddie head design was inspired.
Awesome Blaze Bayley t-shirt there!!! I only have one box set - namely, the Bruce Dickinson "Soloworks", and that's only because it allowed me to buy all his solo releases on vinyl in one fell swoop... and pay less than I would had I bought each album individually.
Right! I love his shirt! Chris got it as part of his order for the new Blaze album from his website.
I had to represent the mighty Blaze!
Nice Blaze Bailey shirt! His solo albums are stellar.
Love Blaze!!!!
Blaze is amazing! His latest solo album is so good!
Pretty much buy any and everything Motorhead, Iron Maiden, Neil Young put out for purchase. Great post, Brendon and Chris. 💯
Did you pick up the Record Store Day Motorhead - Lost Tapes album?
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Got to hope it comes out on cd; no turntable any longer. Still have a few hundred lps but no way to play them.
Would like to pick that one up though.
Great piece here guys, I'd definitely say that these pieces are getting higher and higher in pricing, especially the CD version of All Things Must Pass, and even the Let it Be set to an extent.
Super Deluxe editions boxsets are getting way more pricing. They’re becoming like concert tickets. All I want is to see a show. I don’t need golden circle special seating with merchandise included. There are bands that do it right though so we have to be thankful for that.
Absolutely, I saw the Monkees last month and had stellar seats for under 80 bucks, about 10 rows from the front. Other bands like The Eagles charge 250 for nosebleeds.
I haven't bought too many box sets, myself. I think the last one I got was a Christmas gift, and that was Bruce Springsteen's "Tracks," which is a really nice collection. I've got a four or five disc Motown one which assembles all those old hits into one collection, and it was cheap, so that was well worth the money. There are a few more collections I have bought over the years like that one. For me, being a working musician, I spend more money on my "tools" that I need for my job. This past year I bought an old Takamine guitar, to replace my longtime one that was stolen, and that was $450, and then I started looking around for "spares" for my various pedals that I use, as I am always afraid of them getting damaged by rain and moisture when playing my many outdoor gigs, so I got a spare TC Helicon Harmonizer pedal for $350, and a spare Marshall Supervibe stereo chorus pedal, the first model, which I tracked down in the Netherlands, for $150, since my original one that I use for my live gigs now has a bit of an odd "chirping" sound to it, due to water damage, and isn't suitable for doing recordings. So in the end, I guess it's all a matter of priorities. My son is like you guys. He will spend a lot of money on a rare book, but he is a collector.
I love boxsets like Bruce Springsteen’s Tracks. A boxset of all unreleased studio songs. There are so few bands that have this much back catalogue of recorded material who can do this. Bon Jovi are another band who released a complete boxset of all unreleased studio recordings. I wish this was possible from all my favorite bands!
The Jethro Tull and Whitesnake boxed sets are phenomenally well-done.
I agree and love both!
@@sunsin1592 I can’t disagree more about the remixes. Love his work!!
There are a couple of ways to look at it, I myself will usually wait until someone else will buy it and do a review or unboxing on RUclips. I did this when David Coverdale of White snake announced they were doing anniversary box sets of the groups albums, that way I get to see what's in the set I wanted and then decided if it was worth the price or not. I plan on doing this again when Black Sabbath does this for the Born Again box set when it becomes available to the public.
That’s a good logic. I just can’t wait that long. I need these things when they come out so I do my homework in advance. As for a Born Again boxset, I think that’s highly unlikely. The album just wasn’t successful enough to warrant a boxset. If they aren’t even releasing all of the Ozzy era albums as boxsets I don’t think we will see some of the lesser known titles. But hey I hope it happens because I really like the album a lot.
Unreleased tracks, demo's and live performances is what I love in a set. Slayer's Soundtrack to the Apocalypse disc 3 had my biggest interest. That's my first CD set since beginning my CD collection last week.
Congrats on starting your collection and for finding the Slayer boxset which is not an easy task since it’s out of print. Enjoy!
Hi Brendon!! this is an interesting topic, back in the day when boxsets started to appear it was the best way to get some rare stuff like live show or performances and demos or b sides like Maiden's "Eddies Archive", Pink Floyd's "Dark Side of the Moon", nowadays this kind of "product" is the latest thing the industry have to still make some money from the catalogue they own. To me i don't how many times i have heard the alternative takes, demos, mixes of the original album are worth the money and yes the retail price is the main issue..... cheers and be well
Yeah it’s interesting as the boxset used to be a celebration and a rarity among releases. Now it’s becoming the standard or norm and it’s no long the special thing it once was. On top of that they’re flooding the market. Like most things the industry will burn itself out on boxsets and kill them too.
It’s one big dark hole to go down into! Storage of these large box sets can become an issue!
I like those little five disc box sets. I own a few of them and they’re reasonably priced!
Yeah that’s my current issue. Even if I want the boxset, I have to think about where I’m going to put it! Haha
@@BrendonSnyder The cons of living in NYC? 👻
An example of great box sets are the ones put out by Jethro Tull. Stereo and 5.1 mixes by Steven Wilson, as well as the original mixes, tons of bonus content and usually a live concert. All that with a 96 page book! They are also the perfect size for easy storage. I wish all of the other bands would follow their format.
I think the reason for these box sets is the fact that you can't sell just the music anymore, because one can just listen to it through RUclips or Spotify etc. So the record companies have to sell the "stuff" that is extra.
I agree that’s exactly why they are doing it. They are trying to sell more to one person instead of a little to a lot of people. It’s their new business model.
Hi Guys, Great episode!! I want to add Metallica did a really great job with their box sets and of course you mentioned Whitesnake!! To me they did the best job on their box sets.
For me the Metallica boxes are well done but they duplicate so much material. For me I don’t need an early take, a demo, a later take, and 6 live versions of the same song. But I’m glad they offered the 3 disc editions that was just right for me.
I thought the Metallica ones were well done with a TON of content but I felt the live shows were lacking in quality. I'm sure they have multi-track recordings of many shows and most of the shows were ok at best quality-wise. Kind of a bummer, but man they gave you BOATLOADS of content.
Bought Chris Cornell super deluxe box set includes 7 Lps. 4 cds. Dvd. One of the disc have unreleased songs. Get 66 page book hardcover. Record mat. Cloth lithographs. I paid 202 dollars. Worth every penny I love boxset.
I bought the 4 CD version and for what it was able to collect together it was a good set. It also had interesting packaging too.
23:38 that’s like the AC/DC “Backtracks” box. The deluxe version has a couple extra songs (Australian edits) on the discs that were in the standard version. Why why why why WHY couldn’t they also be on the standard edition? Deluxe box is cool but I can’t justify $150 on Amazon for it when the main stuff I want is on the $30 standard version, sans the extra songs.
No the deluxe edition is 5 discs. Two addition discs that aren’t in the standard one. Plus the vinyl, a bunch of replica items and the amp actually works!!! Come on man that’s pretty amazing if you ask i me….but then I own it 👍
Hey Brandon I'm a new doors fan and am wondering what that huge Morrison hotel thing you have in the back on some of your programs is
It’s the 50th Anniversary boxset of the album that was released last year.
Great post, you really have to study wants in these box sets.
Very true! I always do my homework. But in the case of the new Kiss Destroyer boxset, I don’t think they properly explained and showed what would be in it. I felt it wasn’t going to be worth it and almost passed. But once it arrived it was way better than expected.
I think it depends on how much of a fan you are of said band & whether or not they include enough additional content be it songs you can't find elsewhere or rare items like booklets, tour books, rare art & the like.
Yes that’s very true. If they aren’t a favorite band I’m probably not getting the boxset. That being said, I have a lot of favorite bands…haha 😂
@@BrendonSnyder i enjoy a good boxset but it affects the symmetry of a collection & there is the issue of space or lack there of 😆
Excellent video, guys! I enjoy box sets but they have to be put together thoughtfully for me to buy them. I really like seeing live material in box sets such as the deluxe or super deluxe album boxes but If you're going to include 4 unreleased live shows on 4 discs and all of them are almost identical set lists I'm not going to hand over $100+ for that box set. That's like getting one live show and the other 3 are thrown in just to justify the cost. That's the very definition of a cash grab to me. I think you can often tell when a box set was carefully thought out and put together in a smart way that would give fans something to really enjoy vs. when it's just a complete money grab.
Mel, I feel the same way! I don’t know duplicate live shows that have the same setlist. It drives me nuts when bands duplicate songs and versions of songs in these deluxe editions. If they do they need to keep them to separate discs. I hate when they put 3 versions of the same song in a row. For me I can’t listen to a disc that has repeated songs unless it’s thought about like the first and last one repeats.
I'm all about the music and just the music. I love rarities. In particular, I love unreleased studio tracks. I'm not big on outtakes or live material. A lot of sets are coming out tiered - just the album, deluxe set, and super deluxe.
Imo, there is just way too much disparity between deluxe and super deluxe sets. I'd love to see an added tier for those who want all the music without all the trinkets.
I’d love to see that as well. Unfortunately the reason the trinkets are there is so they can charge more. If they remove it they are removing money they can make. So it’s unlikely we will see the music only edition. Probably also because streaming is already the music only edition.
Hi Chris and Brendon thank you for doing a video close to my heart I guess record companies have the upper hand and kind of play on fans loyalty of artists for me the best ones value wise are the jethro tull and marillion bruce springsteen are great too as well as the thin lizzy rock legends which include a lot fresh demos 99 songs worth but the demos are finished songs and you get tour book poetry book cards and here I pay willingly unfortunately most of the time we have to pray for a deal I am a cd box set aficionado so often in the words of Jerry Mcguire's love interest they have me at hello or at the pre order announcement although I am working hard at being selective now God bless you both and thanks again 😊
You’re like me Tino, if it’s from my favorite band they have me at “hello”. But in the last few years I’ve had to pull back as there are just too many boxsets. Not only are they not all worth the cost but I’m running out of space. Haha
The Jethro Tull box sets are the ones that I do buy and are the standard against which I base my judgement on whether or not to get a set - remixed album, unreleased good sounding live show, DVD/BluRay of a live show if possible, unrleased additional songs that are every bit as good - and sometimes better - than the songs on the album but were lef off for whatever reason.
As for cost, I nearly didnt buy Black Sabbath's Technical Ecstasy set, despite it being my favourite Sabbath album, as initially it was advertised at twice the price I eventually paid for it - and then I had to import it from the US into the UK.However I'm glad I did as the remix and live (albeit form an bootleg I already own) and the alternative takes make it worthwhile - the remastered album was a bit unneccesary however it keeps it all in one nice package wioth a nice book - even though it didnt incude any notes from Steven Wilson regarding the remixing.
The sets that I get totally annoyed with are those where they have a number of unreleased live recordings that I would like to get, but at the same time include all the already released albums - I'm thinking Wishbone Ash, ELP, Gentle Giant and now Judas Priest - especally where the albums in the Priest set dont even have the bonus tracks that were on the previous remasters. Those sets are both way beyond my price point and in all cases I've already shelled out for the albums , in some cases two or three times - original vinyl LP, CD when first released and then Remaster with some bonus tracks and then maybe another remaster with more bonus tracks. Yes I could resell the CDs I've already purchased but they'll not get a good price and I object to having to do so. In all the above bands' cases , had they just released the live CDs in the sets at half the box set price I would have bought them. And I would think any long standing fan of those or any band for that matter, will already have bought most if not all the offcial releases at least once - therefore to me those sets are purely cash grabs.
Sets like the Kiss one where there are works in progress are great if you are a big fan of the band - but if you are an inbetween big and casual fan then maybe not such great value.
Yes did a great set on Rhino called The World is Live where they released three CDs of unreleased live bootleg recordings, tidied up a bit. Same thing when ELP did their Bootleg Box set - in both cases I did have some of the boots included, however it was good to have them in an official package. Most of the Priest live sets in their box have also been available as bootlegs for a while - along with many others - but I still would buy an official release of them because I'm a fan of the band - but not when the set is stuffed full of stuff I already have and at an extortionate price.
As much as I like replica programs with anniversary CD box sets,the tiny print is tough on my aging eyes.
I'm retired and on a fixed income, so I generally don't re-buy albums any more.Back when I earned a decent wage, I bought boxsets ,Tour Editions, etc, cuz I didn't have one song.
Well I hope by the time I’m retired and on a fixed income I own it all by then…haha😂
@@BrendonSnyder Take my word for it, there comes a time when you will have most of the music you want, but run out of the space to store it. Be well.
Thanks for posting!
You’re very welcome!
Blue Note had a box set series called "Blue Note Review". It was supposed to be an ongoing subscription type service, However, they put out only two volumes a few years ago and stopped all of a sudden. Anyone know why?
My guess is that not enough people signed up for it to make it profitable so it stopped. I’ve bought into two things like that before and neither one completed. One was from Jon Anderson of Yes and the other was guitarist Steve Vai. It seems these things have good intentions but rarely actually finish.
Good topic. 👍 I had this feeling with the Senjutsu box set. The one with the bluray and all. I didn't think it was worth the 100€, so I actually didn't buy it. Although I like the design of the box itself.
I really wanted to buy a great box for Senjutsu but ultimately felt it was worth about $50 but not $150. I just couldn’t justify it.
@@BrendonSnyder Exactly. You did the right thing. ;) The best deal is the digipack version. And after that the hardcover book in slipcase.
I don't mind picking up these 5 in 1 box sets, the bang for the buck is great and they don't take up much room on the shelves. But I'm really getting annoyed with al this 40th anniversary material, I have to really like a band to buy them. Keep up the great video's
Yeah the little mini boxsets with 3 to 5 albums in them are great. Still they could add a little bit more like a booklet from all the art that was in the original editions. Still I’m glad to get some out of print albums that way.
@@BrendonSnyder right, I'm not buying those without booklets.
They were expensive, but the Metallica box sets that they've done for their first 5 albums are stellar!
I know lots of people like them but I felt they had way too much duplicate material. For the price they filled it jamb packed with stuff. But for me I only needed the 3 disc versions. Thank goodness they offered those though.
Lovely video! On the cash grab side, few can beat the PF immersion box sets. IMO, why would you need coloured marbles with its corresponding protection bag?! No written essay, only recycled photographs!! Pitiful!!
What?! I love those!! But it wasn’t all about the marbles…there was lots of unreleased bonus music as well. At least for Darkside and The Wall. For Wish You We’re Here I opted for the 2 CD version.
@@BrendonSnyder come on! As big a fan of the Floyd that we are, to me it’s a bit of a cash grab. A scarf!? Are they for real?! Don’t get me wrong, even though I’m utterly biased, those immersion sets are for the fan-collector-completist-die-hard-and-revive-again fans, like us all, but I often wonder, if they had included a nice coffee table book with an in depth essay and NEW interviews with all involved personnel (throwing on some archive less seen pics), much like those awesome Jethro Tull box sets. To me that is how is done: less tour replicas and more words. Of course, none of the above would be of significance, without a nice new mix, a really well recorded concert… and, the obligatory non-album tracks, alternative mixes, and worthy demos, all that good stuff! I get your point, Branden, however (and this is a huge however), it’s not for everyone and they could have made those sets much better, I think! What do I know! I’m just a silly collector! (5 copies of Fragile isn’t enough, but when is enough? ; ) )!
Cheers!
@Terrence Reardon and Friends Podcast Podcast Glad you liked them! As said before, it’s not for everyone, and these Floyd sets were bloody expensive! I do love the Floyd, but sometimes as a connoisseur you want more and you get picky! Cheers!
My favorite (mainly for nostalgia reasons) is the original Bowie Sound + Vision box (1st Rykodisc edition)
I’ve got that one too and do enjoy it as well. However my current favorite Bowie boxsets are his album collections ones he’s recently been releasing.
@@BrendonSnyder Did you get the Brilliant Live Adventures set? Heard it was hard sincw they went direct.
I bought the motley crue music to crash your car by to get the original lethur disc of too fast for love ...I got every zepplinn song in 2 box sets ..but I really like the bonjovi box set 100 million fans can't be wrong great tracks
The Bon Jovi boxset is one of my favorites because every track is unreleased and they’re all studio recordings. Talk about bang for the buck!
Bear Family in Germany is known for archival boxed sets with everything released, all kinds of alternate takes, etc. with liner notes book with sessionography info, etc. of mostly very hard to find rockabilly, vintage country, etc. stuff, much of it often isn't on CD elsewhere. For example, who else would put out a boxed set of Kitty Wells, Carter Family, etc. spanning entire careers on multiple labels?
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True that about Bear Family box sets. All of them come with huge books chocked full of info; who played on tracks, where/when recorded. The books are quite a draw for me.
Certain the Buck Owens set that Chris held up was Bear Family product.
Great discussion. Thanks guys. For the most part, I'm ok with most of my box sets. However, I was dissapointed with the Black Sabbath "Sabbotage" box. There were no outakes, alternate mixes or remixes. Of the four box sets they have out currently, I felt this one was a ripoff. Another example was the ridiculously overpriced "deluxe" box set of Iron Maiden's "Senjutsu". I paid $150 for about $60 worth of stuff, including a cd I already purchased seperately.
I agree with both of those boxsets not being up to par and way overpriced for what they did or didn’t contain. I stayed clear on both of them. But I’m also a completist and so I hate not having them in the collection too.
well, that's you r problem right there, buying the CD separately having it already in the boxset.
@@Metalung True enough. But at least the layout was a little different. I bought the cd, bookset and vinyl first, with the boxset as an afterthought.
I just got my destroyer box set today, I ordered mine directly from KISS online, did you say you ordered through amazon?
Yes mine was from Amazon.
Marbles, Yup, Marbles and wrinkled posters is all I want in a box set.
That and.....
1. Original Remastered album and Re-mixed version if applicable.
2. Vinyl version of above
3. BluRay of Hi rez stereo, quad mixes and 5.1 mixes
4. rare, live, demo and unreleased discs
5. a Needle-drop of a 1st edition pressing included on BluRay. (Yes did this)
6. Hi Rez download card
7. Large hardbound book.
8. Concert DVD/BR is a plus
9. Swag
I have those Sabbath-Ones and love them. I hope they will do these for the ones they left out too.
"Volume 4" does have Demos and allternate takes. And stuff from the studio in which they're just starting a song and shit like this. "Paranoid" has two Live-CDs.
@@oliverl.5834 Paranoid was the first and best one so far. Sabotage was a absolute rip off. But what do I know, I've still bought them! In the UK where I live they are also laughingly overpriced.
Paranoid also has the 1974 Quad recording. Also being the first in the series of boxsets I shelled out for it. But now I don’t need one for each album unless it’s coming with something extra the way the Technical Ecstasy box has both demos and a new remix.
Have you done a whitesnake retrospective?
I’ve done a video on my 43 CD music collection of Whitesnake, see link if you’re interested ruclips.net/video/wYdxenBtcnM/видео.html
Because i have limited cash for box sets i have to cherry pick what i will get.I ordered the Metallica delux box set but cancelled it not because of price but i saw unboxing on youtube and i wasnt impressed by the presentation of it in the box so cancelled and got triple cd edition instead. i have the original 12" box set of singles.The Ace Of Spades anniversary on the other hand is awesome.Wildflowers i liked which i bought solely on reviews.But as with most things music if you like it then its value for money .My main gripe is that you buy a new album then 6 months record company releases a different version.
I felt the same way for the Metallica boxsets. For what they contain they are a good price. But I don’t need multiple live shows, band interviews, and 6 versions of the same song. But that’s just me.
Motley’s The End box set let me down because they ignored several albums and no music videos or a vintage live show or current live show. Crues my favorite band still tho lol. I just am a kitchen sink guy. If you’re putting out a box set then put it ALL in!!! Videos, live stuff, b sides, out takes, rarities, keychain, patch or sticker etc. even if there’s line up changes. Fans are fans n we want it all lol
Their last couple boxsets and deluxe album reissues have been really underwhelming. Most of them just releasing the same bonus tracks as before but adding lots of memorabilia. Unfortunately that is not enough for me.
Because of licensing issues, one usually needs to buy two or three discs to get everything they want. Having said that I expect exceptional sound quality from box sets.
My favourite box sets I own are Eddies Archive (Maiden), The Life and Crimes of Alice Cooper, Box of Snakes (Whitesnake).
All 3 of those are great! I love them too.
@@BrendonSnyder oh and I have both the Crüe’s Music to Crash your Car to box sets. And the Kissology vol 1 and 2. The guitar case edition must be cool. The original Hanoi Rocks box set.
And for last Christmas I got the NWOBHM band Demon’s Japanese box set.
And the Magnum one and the UFO Strangers in the Night recordings .
Oh, I love box sets (although I struggle with multiple remixes). Ref your Tee Shirt, Is The WHO’s box set any good?
Great video by the way. Love the passion we all share!
I love those two Motley boxsets. Unfortunately it doesn’t look like they will ever complete the series with vol. 3.
@@BrendonSnyder no. They got a lot of criticism for the title and they were released before The Dirt made them huge(er)! 👍
Also, another label that puts out lots of historical type of boxed sets of rare material is Smithsonian Folkways.
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Im a sucker for a nice box set if I own the music or not. It can free up the single copies to sell/give away though. $200 for the Destroyer box?! It has tons of extras though.
The Destroyer box is a complete package featuring remastered sound, alternate versions, unreleased material, an amazing book, and cool memorabilia reproductions. If you’re into all of that the price tag is fine. But lots of people only want one piece of it and so $200 can be hard to swallow. I’m glad I shelled out for it. This boy is still smiling and enjoying it.
@@BrendonSnyder It looks amazing, something like that is worth it. KIss is always good with their packages
Do you know if Pink Floyd is going to release a Animals box set?
The two main guys Waters and Gilmour have finally come to an agreement on it and it looks to be happening. I’m expecting it will be released next year for the 45th anniversary. But there hasn’t been an announcement yet.
Jethro Tull did the box set right. From This Was to A so far, all Steven Wilson remastered with most mixed 5.1 which is what I look for in box sets. Uniform packaging in book like form and under $40. Live shows, videos and comprehensive booklets.
If you were finding the Tull boxsets for under $40 then you had a steal. Those still range from $45 to $65 depending on where you buy from.
@@BrendonSnyder I did preorder all of the Tull Boxes from Amazon and that's normally the lowest price. Just got the Benefit box for $38.93. Barely under but it made it.
Have owned several box sets over the years. A lot are definitely worth the price (the Tom Petty 1994 "Playback" set was 6 cd's - one of nothing but B Sides and two of new/previously unreleased material, and the very first Mudcrutch 45 - for about $50!), and others are like....ummm, really?
How can one album suddenly become a four or five disc box set? Especially one that costs hundreds of dollars.
It's not the discs. It's the hardbound book & all the memorabilia that's included in the set that to me is worth every penny
alternate takes, demos, etc.
What they said…😂
I bought a box set of chuck berry 300 + dollars and worth every cent!
As long as you’re enjoying it that’s all that matters!
KISS did that when they released the Alive 1975 to 2000 box set as they released the original Alive 4 recording in that set.
That was worth it for me.
I rather have the box set. Sometimes you get cool stuff inside boxset. I love boxset Own all stone temple Pilots I love all three
I love boxsets but just want to content to make it worth buying. If I’ve never owned the album before then it’s great no matter what. But if I already own the album and have to replace it, I would like it to be worth it to me.
What I find strange is there are a few bands who have already made more money than they can spend who create boxed sets with exorbitant prices. I also bought the Kiss Destroyer box and I do enjoy it and the non musical content, but I believe this should have been $100 and not $200. Like you, I am also a huge Pink Floyd fanatic and I shelled out for those as well, but those were way overpriced too. With The Later Years, they have continued to milk the fans by releasing Delicate Sound of Thunder, Knebworth, and A Momentary Lapse of Reason Remix. The Early Years should have been $300 and The Later Years should have been maybe $200. Other bands are doing superb bang for the buck. The Jethro Tull anniversary book boxes are roughly $35-$45 dollars for an average of 3-4 CDs and 2 DVDs with a book in the middle LOADED with information, history, etc. I have enjoyed the Sabbath Deluxe CD boxes and the Whitesnake ones are great too. I think the Metallica boxes are great content for the price too. I do think the black album box should have been a little lower in price like the previous ones were. Like you guys say, we’re fans. We may snarl and grumble about some of the boxes and prices, but we will follow our fandom - we pick our battles. Like you, I considered the big Tattoo You box, but the extra money for the live CDs is not worth it. Frank Zappa’s family has been doing great boxed sets for the price. I picked up The Hot Rats Sessions 6CD for under $100 and it is super high quality. Sometimes the non music bonus content is baffling and I am thinking specifically of the Pink Floyd Immersion sets with scarves, marbles, and other useless throwaway stuff. Another really great set recently is the Thin Lizzy 6CD set with all the lyrics, tour books, etc.
Yes you have to pick and choose carefully, it's a cash cow for many bands, I think Motley Crue are the worst, yet they know the fans will pay for the same shit and a little extra . The best is if you want to discover an artist from scratch then it's often a good way 👍
Addiction to superdeluxe box sets is the new trendy malady requiring rehab and confessions in a group circle. You can always spot collectors with +100 superdeluxe box sets because they drool spinal fluid out the corner of their mouth. And twitch.
Boxsets give you a good view of what a band is ready to do for the fans : Metallica, for exemple, put out a huge amount of stuff for the Black Album anniversary, and it was "only" 200 euros or so. On the other hand, you have to pay the same price for the MODE box by Depeche Mode, with nothing really new on it, just the albums and the b-sides. My guess is : "content" is when a band really cares about what is released ; "cash grab" is when the label runs everything. Too bad for me, I'm a Depeche Mode fan 😁
The Depeche Mode boxset had 4 CD’s on non-albums and unreleased tracks! Plus it included their entire studio catalogue. That’s a lot more than Metallica is doing on single album releases. While I agree the Metallica boxes are value packed, you’re comparing apples to oranges with these two types. I’ve done a full review of the Depeche Mode boxset which I got for $350 if you want to know more about it, see link ruclips.net/video/tinzmefZrWI/видео.html
@@BrendonSnyder I understand what you mean, a whole catalog can't be compared with a single album. But as a fan, I would have loved it if DM had released live stuff, demo stuff like Metallica did. A lot of DM fans complained about it, and it's the same thing for the upcoming 101 reissue. Okay, it's a bluray, but you have only 3 unreleased performances. I don't know, maybe Metallica fans are also disappointed... However, I'm still glad to have bought the MODE box, it became so rare so quickly !
I haven’t bought any of the Metallica boxsets yet because so much material is duplicated. While there is value in the 10+ discs in each box, I don’t need multiple live concerts and multiple demo recordings that duplicate songs so that I end up with 6 live version of a song and 6 demos of the same song. Plus for me I have zero interest in hearing an interview disc. Maybe because I lived through it already but it would have been more interesting for them to film a new interview about their memories and include it. While I know Metallica doesn’t have unreleased recordings to include because they only record exactly what they write, still it’s disappointing to not get any outtakes or new material. So I’ve just purchased the 3 CD set versions. I think it’s all in the eye of the beholder. What doesn’t work for me works for someone else and visa versa.
What's your opinion on box sets that bootleg companies put out? There is a individual on RUclips that has many of these KISS ones that someone is putting out and he's getting alot of lets just say not nice comments that people think it's this person who is making them, yet I must say the packaging on some of them looks great but are asking more than the Destroyer box set.the persons ID is Rock Hard 1964
My intake of bootlegs is very limited. First the quality of both the material and packing has to be very high quality. Second, the music has to not be available from the band. If the band has their own out I’d rather buy that one over a bootleg.
for me i love boxsets with demos and a 5.1 surround sound especially if it's a SW mix.but with Kiss I never was a Kiss fan and th price doesn't justify it for me.
Yeah the price does discourage all but the hardcore fan. And even then some of them aren’t buying either. They did a disservice by not providing and in between version with more than the 2 disc but maybe without all the memorabilia. They might have sold more.
Grateful Dead probably has the best box sets of their live stuff!!
They certainly have a lot of collections and boxsets to rival most bands.
Unfortunately about 90% of the time it's just a cash grab.
I feel like its more about 50% of the time.
I don’t buy these deluxe anniversary versions of single albums if I already own them. So I haven’t jumped on these Black Sabbath, Jethro Tull deluxe reissue things, for example. But I was impressed by what was in the Kiss-Destroyer box.
I really do like the cheap multi-album box sets where you can get a chunk of a discography at a good price. However I also agree with Brendon that you do not always get a booklet or even full album artwork with these particular type of sets.
Beatles stones pink Floyd is about it for me if I still dad my old income I would buy more I make forty grand less a year now so my piggy bank is on a special diet he's not happy about it
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