Canucks fan here. The Canuckleheads have been to the cup final 3 times; got swept by the Islanders back in the 80s (but Hey, Roger Neilson, white towel and sh*t). We went to game 7 against the Rangers in 1994 (I went to one home game in each round - great experience!) and game 7 against the Bruins in 2011. I can tell you that my team, by the final game of thse final rounds...... they were all limping, had black eyes, split lips, you name it. Every fibre of their being that could be offered up was left out there on the ice by the end. These Leafs (and actually, many of the teams today in the NHL) just do not have the guts or the balls to play that way. If they did - they would win it all. Simple. The Panthers have pretty much that DNA on their current team. You cannot win if you are not willing to pay the price of pain, pain, pain. It is 16 wins of pure hell to win the hardest to win trophy in professional sport.
Not a leaf fan, but the teams the leafs have lost to have been a championship winning Panthers team, a championship winning Lightning team and a championship losing Bruins team. Sure they might need to be better, but maybe if this playoff format didnt stink they could get more playoff experience and be better at it. Sure the format isnt changing and they need to win it, but how unlucky your division is STACKED.
@hemantishwaran5741 can you imagine if he switched teams? You would be saying how un-loyal he is. And don't try to deny it because you know you're a hypocrite
You guys should’ve re-uploaded the same post-mortem SDP from the last Florida 2nd round loss and seen how long it would’ve taken for people to notice 😅
@TheGamerChronicles999 you're confusing the 2021 playoffs versus the 2020 playoffs. 2020 was the COVID bubble with no fans loss to Columbus. 2021 had limited fans in game 6&7.
I just put the Panthers quotes into Google translate and every one of them came back as "Please don't change anything so we can beat you again next year"
For those trying to blame the fans: The Philadelphia Eagles got booed off the field at halftime in the first game of the season after they won the Super Bowl. They booed them off the field when they lost by one point in the second game of the season this year. That didn't prevent the team from winning the Super Bowl this year.
Top 2 lines for sure, honestly the bottom 6 isn't bad and was pretty solid all playoffs, also D core and goalies are fairly solid, Woll is a bit iffy but Stolly is amazing.
@paulthompson8793 They just need to trade marner and Tavares for a STUD or a bunch of depth players and build the team around a top line of Matthew, Knies, Nylander.
That game is what got me a bit interested in hockey . Who knew that Marchand and the Bennett guy was on the panther side.. and Mathew’s was on the leaf side😂 Either way.. i get why hard core people are mad. But i see it as its still a win for canadians cause a canadian team got beat by canadians on an american team 😂 and canadian team lost with american players lol.. It’s kinda funny. But sucks.. would have been wild if toronto won.. there would be parties today
Meh, 2010 Olympics was better. You had Russia involved which really added more suspense as they were on a heater. But 4 nations was the best thing I've seen since
@corybuckle944 I enjoyed the 2010 moreso than 2002 TBH. As much as I love Mario, 2010 had so many factors, losing to the states then rematch for the gold and going into overtime.
"Everyone just trying to Big Dog everyone instead of winning" is such a common management / team dynamic issue in my line of work- I'm borrowing that expression for future use
Adam after game 3: "I'm not worried, that's as good as Florida gets". Feels like the Hagrid meme... "Shouldn't have said that. Should NOT have said that."
Eyyyyy, glad you called out hockey psychology. That dude does the BEST breakdowns. I watch him with my son to better understand plays in his own games 😂
As a Sharks fan, Glad you guys had a good time in San Jose. My brother is a season ticket holder. After the 14-15 season when we didn’t make the playoffs, he wanted to know what the plan for the team was. He had an hour and a half meeting with DOUG WILSON!! The frickin GM!! Just because he wanted to know the direction of the team. And DW laid out his 5 year plan for the team. My brother and I also became friends with the President/COO of the team. It’s a great organization. LOVE being a Sharks fan!!
@ yea, it really is. We also got invited to The Sharks 25th Anniversary dinner w all the players & alumni. My bro even shaked Bettman’s hand. I sat next to alumni Bryan Marchment(Stars’ Mason Marchment’s dad), and had a lovely evening. This was the season we went to the Cup Finals. My bro was even given a bottle of wine w/ the Penguins & Sharks logo’s on it. It’s so cool. They really are great with their fanbase.
That's awesome. It's such a different world in smaller NHL Markets. They treat their fans with the utmost Respect. While us Leaf Fans are treated with resentment from Management.
Hi Moonglow - Isles fan here - I have been to one game at the Shark Tank - I forget the year - but Mike Milbury was GM of NYI at the time and I got to chat with him at that game at the Tank. Had to be in the late 1990's. I seem to recall that Doug Wilson - who was the GM at the time - had a desk set up in the concourse on the lower level in the building and invited fans to come talk to him at his desk? I thought that was so cool.
@85blutchthis was President & COO before Becher. In fact, they were co Presidents 1 or 2 years.Still friends with him even though he’s no longer with the Sharks.
just wanted to share this, I am one of the sportchek staff that was in today and i heard Steve yell from the cresting booth 5:42 (which is a floor below and on the opposite side of the store)
@Kuz33y sorry I know I’m just upset but you don’t know we’ll get there. I understand the problems the Caps had but the fact you won gives you nothing to offer to this conversation, we’re not the same.
I grew up watching both Caps and Leafs. The difference between them was the Caps NEVER went out like Losers. They ALWAYS went down swinging and always gave their home fans something to cheer. Ovi put his Emotions on his sleeves and still showed up even in a lost. He always held himself accountable. The Leafs on the other hand always go out like Pathetic Losers with ZERO leadership. With the Caps and Ovi there was always Hope. The Leafs are hopeless
Sounded like Leafs fan martyrdom. I enjoy them talking about stuff, but pretending there are zero problems with the Leafs fanbase (while discussing stories about how some of them bully and harass players too) to present a “woe-is-me” rant is a touch dishonest. Yah, there are a lot of normal fans who are disappointed and not ones to do stuff like throw jerseys or drinks on the ice during play, but they are drowned out by the others a lot of the time. I don’t think fans are to blame fully, not at all. But I think that there’s something going on with the teams that play there, and maybe there are parts of the culture that are contributing to it.
Unfortunately it was the most out of touch biased part of the podcast. It was all so on point and fair until the fan rant. The leaf fanbase gets hate for a reason, they kinda deserve it
@redheron4321 he wasn't gaslighting lmao. He was making a valid point. Leaf fanbase has some of the most toxic and gross fans of any sport fanbase. Sure all fanbases are bad apples but the leafs has some of the worst at some of the highest proportions.
You know who else came back from injury this season? Evander Kane. He already has 4 goals and 3 assists in 10 GP, against LA and Vegas. Just, every stat is more embarrassing than the last.
Florida has a higher than normal sales tax to makeup for no income tax, which makes sense when you consider they're built on tourist attractions, like beaches, Disney World, Daytona USA, MLB spring training, etc. where tourists end up buying a lot of stuff. Deep playoff runs are good for business there.
property taxes are onerous, too, as are highway tolls and a dizzying array of other taxes/fees etc. The state and counties and various municipalities also hit hotel/motel guests with astonishingly punitive nightly "guest taxes." But yes, just in my lifetime, the sales tax went from like 3% up to 7% and counting.
I just love the fact Evan Rodrigues, Frederick Anderson, Carter Verhegie, Sami Kapanen, Ilya Lyubushkin, and Cody Ceci are still playing in the final 4. Lol. Literally a full line of recent Leafs cast offs.
This year was a different kind of hurt. Anger. Sadness. Disappointment... I cannot do another season of this core. Keep up the great the work guys. Thanks for podcasts. I'm so mad.
Agreed. This team was different and I think that’s why it sucks that much more. They showed they were willing to play playoff hockey, and then just decided they didn’t want too anymore.
Media Asked Draisaitl after practice today about the added Pressure playing in Edmonton and how does that effect them. He said "Sure there is more Pressure here, it's a Canadian team in a hockey mad market with lots of media attention, I can't speak for other teams but it doesn't effect us". Even in Edmonton after practice we get Toronto media asking Maple Leaf questions. Lol
The narrative about market pressure is regularly raised about all the Canadian teams, so it's not surprising that the latest round of discussion about it vis a vis Toronto saw it raised elsewhere. It's a dumb idea, regardless.
@ColonelGreen Any football (real football) player in europe or south america has more pressure from the fans than any leafs player. They still perform.
What I would like to see somewhere is an analysis of the mechanics of how the core four failed to step up. Like go over tape (or screenshots) and explain what should have been done differently.
The thumbnails kept me away historically, but I’ve started listening to Steve this year and he’s an absolute gem. It is a rare gift to be as stark-raving-rationally-cogent as he is so consistently. What a great ambassador for the leafs.
It's almost as though the person who had the controller dropped it for the first 6 minutes of the game with only the auto goalie doing all the work. Then dropped the controller again in the 2nd
Such a weird game for the Leafs. Man it was like they had reverse-puck-magnets on their sticks. And just backing off constantly, failing to clear, sooo hesitant. Honestly they looked terrified and paralyzed, truly.
I love how in 2020 they were saying "it's hard to get into these games because there are no fans in the stadium" now they are saying "these games are hard because of how many fans there are in the stadium". Pick a lane.
It's Crazy cuz despite being a Multi Millionaire, and married to Baddy (Tessa Virtue)... Reilly as the "1000 yard stare" not cuz he's a Psychopath... but cuz of all to Years dealing with Crushing Pain from being a Leaf! Anybody away from Hockey would think he works a dead end Job cuz he's got Pain in his eyes!!
100%, bye bye Marner, I'd look into trading Nylander and maybe even Matthews as well. JT I'd be ok with him staying at a silly low salary, if not bye bye.
Oilers fan. Lifelong hockey watcher. Thank you Steve,Adam , and Jesse for being the best hockey content available anywhere IMO. Looking forward to Steve’s Oiler streams. Am going to miss Adam’s Oiler streams.
Not a hockey comment, just a broadcast comment. Adam does such a great job of steering the ship and pulling Steve back onto the scheduled plan. Well done, my good man.
Adam does have that annoying fake laugh but every sports podcast needs a passionate heart-person like Steve and rational mind-person like Adam. They complement each other very well.
I don’t have time for Matthews. What about these soccer teams where players get shot and killer for missing a goal? There’s no way we put that much pressure on the leafs.
As a Floridian we pay for things as a state and various counties with sales and property taxes. So they have contributed but not as much as the old lady who buys a weekly scratcher ticket with her pack of PallMalls on the way to play Mahjong in Coral Gables.
I think it's a bit silly to ask Marner "Why do you want this?", like, probably for the same reason you have not changed team. He's probably dreamt forever about being part of the group that wins the cup with the leafs, that's not something you just go "ah lets go play somewhere else", if that's your dream. You are basically asking him to give up on his dream, a dream that you yourselves can't give up on.
Fool me once, shame on me, fool me for ten years call me Brendan Shanahan.
Canucks fan here. The Canuckleheads have been to the cup final 3 times; got swept by the Islanders back in the 80s (but Hey, Roger Neilson, white towel and sh*t). We went to game 7 against the Rangers in 1994 (I went to one home game in each round - great experience!) and game 7 against the Bruins in 2011. I can tell you that my team, by the final game of thse final rounds...... they were all limping, had black eyes, split lips, you name it. Every fibre of their being that could be offered up was left out there on the ice by the end. These Leafs (and actually, many of the teams today in the NHL) just do not have the guts or the balls to play that way. If they did - they would win it all. Simple. The Panthers have pretty much that DNA on their current team. You cannot win if you are not willing to pay the price of pain, pain, pain. It is 16 wins of pure hell to win the hardest to win trophy in professional sport.
Not a leaf fan, but the teams the leafs have lost to have been a championship winning Panthers team, a championship winning Lightning team and a championship losing Bruins team. Sure they might need to be better, but maybe if this playoff format didnt stink they could get more playoff experience and be better at it. Sure the format isnt changing and they need to win it, but how unlucky your division is STACKED.
Should be fool you once shame me, fool you 10 times call me Brendan Shanahan
Sad part is, they’ll probably let Shanahan “resign” with dignity. He should have been fired two years ago with Dubas.
Or any Leafs fan for the last say 1/4 century. 🤣
Adam said it best; They don't just lose, they lose like losers.
Dude I used to watch you when I was in middle school, love you dude
Then watch another team and stop whining
@hemantishwaran5741what a loser comment lol
@hemantishwaran5741 can you imagine if he switched teams? You would be saying how un-loyal he is. And don't try to deny it because you know you're a hypocrite
@hemantishwaran5741What do we call people who are content with always losing?
You guys should’ve re-uploaded the same post-mortem SDP from the last Florida 2nd round loss and seen how long it would’ve taken for people to notice 😅
“They’re not supposed to look younger and healthier after that, right?”
And just edit the sportchek studio into it
Obviously it is the fans fault. Remember during the Covid season when the building was empty and the Leafs won the Cup.
Now, to be fair, they didn't lose in 7 that year.
Didn't they lose to the Habs in 7 that year? There was no fans at those playoff games@Sean-YEG
@Sean-YEG they absolutly did loose in 7 against the habs lol
@TheGamerChronicles999 you're confusing the 2021 playoffs versus the 2020 playoffs. 2020 was the COVID bubble with no fans loss to Columbus. 2021 had limited fans in game 6&7.
Ironically, the Toilet Seats almost won the Cup that year, which confirms that their fans are sh*t.
"This was the biggest game of your careers. For me, it was a Sunday": Brad Marchand, probably
I'm from Montreal, and let's be honest... we'd riot over way less than what you've been putting up with for the past 20 years lol
From Vancouver we have rioted over less
Toronto wouldn’t riot, too posh.
I just put the Panthers quotes into Google translate and every one of them came back as "Please don't change anything so we can beat you again next year"
For those trying to blame the fans: The Philadelphia Eagles got booed off the field at halftime in the first game of the season after they won the Super Bowl. They booed them off the field when they lost by one point in the second game of the season this year. That didn't prevent the team from winning the Super Bowl this year.
And they love the fans, they see the passion.
They booed Santa, Christmas still came that year
@Callsign_Hush not just booed, they threw snowballs at him 🤣
Philly fans are in a class of their own, and I use the word class very loosely.
@chriswright7259 🎶No one liiiiiiiikes us, we don't care.🎶
I'm not a VIP Member, does that mean I'm a passenger?
🤣
At least noise
Wake the **** up!!! 💩
So Matthews was actually complaining about all the economy class peasants? 😅
"I paid a grand to be here, you're down 6-1 and I find discontentment in that!"
When your two best players are Domi and Pacioretty you know you're in trouble. Time to clean house.
Clean house and do what exactly? It’s pretty easy to say that, but you have to actually think about what you’re going to do.
Top 2 lines for sure, honestly the bottom 6 isn't bad and was pretty solid all playoffs, also D core and goalies are fairly solid, Woll is a bit iffy but Stolly is amazing.
@filmclips313 rebuild.
@paulthompson8793 They just need to trade marner and Tavares for a STUD or a bunch of depth players and build the team around a top line of Matthew, Knies, Nylander.
Been waiting years for this episode
Same brother, was refreshing all day for that 😂
How tatum doing
Enjoy the same next spring. Nothing will change.
Why years? We do this yearly💔😂
The 2 USA vs Canada games in the Four Nations Faceoff were the best hockey games I have seen in decades. It was like the 1990's.
That game is what got me a bit interested in hockey . Who knew that Marchand and the Bennett guy was on the panther side.. and Mathew’s was on the leaf side😂
Either way.. i get why hard core people are mad. But i see it as its still a win for canadians cause a canadian team got beat by canadians on an american team 😂 and canadian team lost with american players lol..
It’s kinda funny.
But sucks.. would have been wild if toronto won.. there would be parties today
Meh, 2010 Olympics was better. You had Russia involved which really added more suspense as they were on a heater. But 4 nations was the best thing I've seen since
2002 Olympic finals Canada with Mario vs USA (Canada winning gold for the first time in 50 years) was MY 72 Summit Series
@corybuckle944 I enjoyed the 2010 moreso than 2002 TBH. As much as I love Mario, 2010 had so many factors, losing to the states then rematch for the gold and going into overtime.
Best quote ever Steve. "The booing isn't to help." Priceless. Thank you for the laugh. OMG that was awesome!!!
"Everyone just trying to Big Dog everyone instead of winning" is such a common management / team dynamic issue in my line of work- I'm borrowing that expression for future use
It's such a wonderful summary of the Leafs' past decade
We are fortunate to have baby Barkov
This is my stanley cup
Well at least it's someone's 😂
@sdpn Ah men!!!
Adam after game 3: "I'm not worried, that's as good as Florida gets". Feels like the Hagrid meme... "Shouldn't have said that. Should NOT have said that."
They should try actually watching hockey outside of the Leafs instead of spouting out clown takes like that
Hockey Psychology shout-out! Let's go!
Eyyyyy, glad you called out hockey psychology. That dude does the BEST breakdowns. I watch him with my son to better understand plays in his own games 😂
I just watch him every team he said was going to win won
I’m totally new to sports. HP really breaks it down to a basic level. Da best!!!
"Shout out", a 'call out' is bad 😅
I love watching him!
@TheViolentjesterhaha I thought he did something bad and was gonna get a reprimand
My favorite episode every year.. Waited all day for this
Same
As a rangers fan this episode is bringing me out of my “seasonal” depression that kicked in right around Halloween thanks to those ass fucks.
Ditto
I ordered a cake in advance for this one.
Adam looks like a Pixar character became a real person
As a Sharks fan, Glad you guys had a good time in San Jose.
My brother is a season ticket holder. After the 14-15 season when we didn’t make the playoffs, he wanted to know what the plan for the team was. He had an hour and a half meeting with DOUG WILSON!! The frickin GM!! Just because he wanted to know the direction of the team. And DW laid out his 5 year plan for the team. My brother and I also became friends with the President/COO of the team. It’s a great organization. LOVE being a Sharks fan!!
@ yea, it really is. We also got invited to The Sharks 25th Anniversary dinner w all the players & alumni. My bro even shaked Bettman’s hand. I sat next to alumni Bryan Marchment(Stars’ Mason Marchment’s dad), and had a lovely evening. This was the season we went to the Cup Finals. My bro was even given a bottle of wine w/ the Penguins & Sharks logo’s on it. It’s so cool. They really are great with their fanbase.
@moonglow630 No other team president is closer to the fans than Becher. It's really cool.
That's awesome. It's such a different world in smaller NHL Markets. They treat their fans with the utmost Respect. While us Leaf Fans are treated with resentment from Management.
Hi Moonglow - Isles fan here - I have been to one game at the Shark Tank - I forget the year - but Mike Milbury was GM of NYI at the time and I got to chat with him at that game at the Tank. Had to be in the late 1990's. I seem to recall that Doug Wilson - who was the GM at the time - had a desk set up in the concourse on the lower level in the building and invited fans to come talk to him at his desk? I thought that was so cool.
@85blutchthis was President & COO before Becher. In fact, they were co Presidents 1 or 2 years.Still friends with him even though he’s no longer with the Sharks.
2 hours of content to listen to while I draw thank you gentlemen
Fair warning, it won't be very peaceful... 😂
Totally get it - I put theseon when I have some food to prepare in the kitchen. These are great podcasts, they take their time and go deep.
“Huh… I drew a maelstrom of sorts!”
Oh boy my show is on
My show! My show!
Knew yesterday this would be an all-timer.
Steve got me back into Hawkins Cheezies
Let’s gooooo. Been waiting all day for this! ❤
"Jesse you saw this game from above", jeez Adam you made it sound like Jesse went to Heaven and came back.
just wanted to share this, I am one of the sportchek staff that was in today and i heard Steve yell from the cresting booth 5:42 (which is a floor below and on the opposite side of the store)
Damn, it sounded like he was holding back too
Want a cookie??
@syzionaurifex5383chips ahoy? 😂
@syzionaurifex5383 which kind you got? 😂
@syzionaurifex5383 which kind you got? 😂
“Tabarnac” 😅😂
I need this for my mental health after game 7. It’s like listening to my friends rant. Thanks, guys!
"The booing is not to help!"
I'mma steal that.
Coyotes never recovered, but they did make the conference finals…
The problem with the fans is: the 20,000 inside should be outside, and the 10,000 outside, should be inside. Then you’d hear some noise.
As a cubs fan… dont worry it will only be about another 50 years
Thanks again gang. Gonna be a wild off season.
This is gunna be a fun one. You’ll get there guys -caps fan who went through years of this
@Kuz33y sorry I know I’m just upset but you don’t know we’ll get there. I understand the problems the Caps had but the fact you won gives you nothing to offer to this conversation, we’re not the same.
Not with these players we won't. These dogs won't hunt.
Based on what?
I grew up watching both Caps and Leafs. The difference between them was the Caps NEVER went out like Losers. They ALWAYS went down swinging and always gave their home fans something to cheer. Ovi put his Emotions on his sleeves and still showed up even in a lost. He always held himself accountable. The Leafs on the other hand always go out like Pathetic Losers with ZERO leadership. With the Caps and Ovi there was always Hope. The Leafs are hopeless
Who’s their Semin and Mike Green to trade?
LFR is now LHK for Leafs Humiliation Kink
The Adam rant at the end about the fans gave me goosebumps.
Sounded like Leafs fan martyrdom. I enjoy them talking about stuff, but pretending there are zero problems with the Leafs fanbase (while discussing stories about how some of them bully and harass players too) to present a “woe-is-me” rant is a touch dishonest. Yah, there are a lot of normal fans who are disappointed and not ones to do stuff like throw jerseys or drinks on the ice during play, but they are drowned out by the others a lot of the time.
I don’t think fans are to blame fully, not at all. But I think that there’s something going on with the teams that play there, and maybe there are parts of the culture that are contributing to it.
@hectic105 Thanks for the gaslighting. Have a nice life.
Unfortunately it was the most out of touch biased part of the podcast. It was all so on point and fair until the fan rant. The leaf fanbase gets hate for a reason, they kinda deserve it
@redheron4321 he wasn't gaslighting lmao. He was making a valid point. Leaf fanbase has some of the most toxic and gross fans of any sport fanbase. Sure all fanbases are bad apples but the leafs has some of the worst at some of the highest proportions.
You know who else came back from injury this season? Evander Kane. He already has 4 goals and 3 assists in 10 GP, against LA and Vegas. Just, every stat is more embarrassing than the last.
He came back from injury meaning recovered from, thats diffferent from playing while injured
@diamondsare4everoh, you mean like Draisaitl and Frederic, and Pickard after Hertl crunched his leg.
As Shorsey once said "They dont hate to lose"
Florida has a higher than normal sales tax to makeup for no income tax, which makes sense when you consider they're built on tourist attractions, like beaches, Disney World, Daytona USA, MLB spring training, etc. where tourists end up buying a lot of stuff. Deep playoff runs are good for business there.
property taxes are onerous, too, as are highway tolls and a dizzying array of other taxes/fees etc. The state and counties and various municipalities also hit hotel/motel guests with astonishingly punitive nightly "guest taxes." But yes, just in my lifetime, the sales tax went from like 3% up to 7% and counting.
Was fun while it lasted. At least the Summer is gonna be interesting.
Yeah, don't re-sign Shanny, and do nothing else.
Oh just u wait!! WE WERE RIGHT THERE!!! RUN IT BACK BOYSSSSSS!!!!😭😭😭😭 2026 IS OUR YEAR!!!!
You guys had such a good time in San Jose, I think it’s time to come over to our fandom. At least we’re fun to watch with a future in site.
Detroit sports radio were eating good with that "too many passengers" quote today.
I just love the fact Evan Rodrigues, Frederick Anderson, Carter Verhegie, Sami Kapanen, Ilya Lyubushkin, and Cody Ceci are still playing in the final 4. Lol.
Literally a full line of recent Leafs cast offs.
I'm like count Dooku before the decapitation. "I've been looking forward to this."
Twice the pride, double the fall
"Do it"
Oh baby, I've been waiting for this one
Adam trying to keep Steve on topic is always hilarious.
This year was a different kind of hurt. Anger. Sadness. Disappointment... I cannot do another season of this core.
Keep up the great the work guys. Thanks for podcasts.
I'm so mad.
Agreed. This team was different and I think that’s why it sucks that much more. They showed they were willing to play playoff hockey, and then just decided they didn’t want too anymore.
The marner situation in Toronto reminds me of the duchene in Colorado. The kid playing for his favorite team doesn't always end happy for both sides
Sports psychologists in the Toronto area are gonna be eating good
1:47:00 me everyday as an American
Media Asked Draisaitl after practice today about the added Pressure playing in Edmonton and how does that effect them. He said "Sure there is more Pressure here, it's a Canadian team in a hockey mad market with lots of media attention, I can't speak for other teams but it doesn't effect us".
Even in Edmonton after practice we get Toronto media asking Maple Leaf questions. Lol
The narrative about market pressure is regularly raised about all the Canadian teams, so it's not surprising that the latest round of discussion about it vis a vis Toronto saw it raised elsewhere.
It's a dumb idea, regardless.
@ColonelGreen Any football (real football) player in europe or south america has more pressure from the fans than any leafs player. They still perform.
Everyone is a passenger when their is no pilot !
I was unable to sleep last night out of excitement for this.
What I would like to see somewhere is an analysis of the mechanics of how the core four failed to step up. Like go over tape (or screenshots) and explain what should have been done differently.
"shanaplosion" LOOOOL
The thumbnails kept me away historically, but I’ve started listening to Steve this year and he’s an absolute gem. It is a rare gift to be as stark-raving-rationally-cogent as he is so consistently. What a great ambassador for the leafs.
It's almost as though the person who had the controller dropped it for the first 6 minutes of the game with only the auto goalie doing all the work. Then dropped the controller again in the 2nd
When does Shanahan get fired for doing absolutely nothing from 2014.
Have you checked the balance sheet? That is his responsibility.
When the MLSE board room decides that they're sick of owning a mediocre performing franchise.
Thankfully his contract just expired
He's in The Old Whiteboys Club.
He made the board lots amd lots of money
56:15 This is not Andersen's first conference Finals. He made it in 2015 as the goalie for the Ducks when they lost in 7 to the Blackhawks.
Such a weird game for the Leafs. Man it was like they had reverse-puck-magnets on their sticks. And just backing off constantly, failing to clear, sooo hesitant. Honestly they looked terrified and paralyzed, truly.
Some of them, I think the 3rd and 4th lines were fine honestly.
After a loss, Ac Milan's players and staff alike gather in front of their fans to hear what they have to say about the game. Imagine that.
There needs to be a documentary about the Shanaplan.
I'm not ready to watch yet. But thank you for your AWESOME coverage of the Playoffs including pre-game shows ❤
I love how in 2020 they were saying "it's hard to get into these games because there are no fans in the stadium" now they are saying "these games are hard because of how many fans there are in the stadium". Pick a lane.
The core fore ⛳️
My condolences, Dangle
1:58:00 Jesse's comment on the Heineken killed me and is so true. When I was in Europe for 2 weeks it was the only beer I drank 😅
Thanks for the free therapy guys! Needed this episode
3rd lines often decide everything. i loved my 1970s habs but for it was always about lamber-risebrough-tremblay. panthers 3rd line was stellar.
Dead on.
Jesse: I was saying booo-urns
Rielly has one of the most haunting careers
Rielly should have been traded years ago , he sucks
@ronrobertson8428well he had a great playoffs like 3 yrs ago. But that is ancient history at this point
It's Crazy cuz despite being a Multi Millionaire, and married to Baddy (Tessa Virtue)... Reilly as the "1000 yard stare" not cuz he's a Psychopath... but cuz of all to Years dealing with Crushing Pain from being a Leaf!
Anybody away from Hockey would think he works a dead end Job cuz he's got Pain in his eyes!!
Yall lost him when he was skipped over for captain after dealing with the Phil-Dion era
Sad thing is...he's probably the third best player from his draft year after Hellebyuck and Forsberg...
Refreshed my screen too many times today, and here it is!
Theses guys talk about the pressure of playing in Toronto but if others mention it then their just playing head games.
You guys are hands down better than TV media
Major moves must be made, not just firing Shanny
100%, bye bye Marner, I'd look into trading Nylander and maybe even Matthews as well. JT I'd be ok with him staying at a silly low salary, if not bye bye.
Oilers fan. Lifelong hockey watcher. Thank you Steve,Adam , and Jesse for being the best hockey content available anywhere IMO. Looking forward to Steve’s Oiler streams. Am going to miss Adam’s Oiler streams.
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Oiler fan Steve time!
Gripper Nation has been temporarily suspended... we'll be back.
HERE. WE. GO.
Been waiting all day for this
"It's Spring, the Leafs are out" - badum tish.
Somebody has to go and rake the "Leaves"
"A multimillionaire on a chaise lounge made out of bent poor people" is the line of this episode. Seriously, it's so good.
Florida are like a pack of wolf. When they are aggressive and in sync, they unstoppable.
Waiting to see the video in the LFR that Steve was referencing
Only about 55 minutes in, but shocked you guys didn't mention anything about the Schiefele situation or the Jets' loss as a whole
Not a hockey comment, just a broadcast comment. Adam does such a great job of steering the ship and pulling Steve back onto the scheduled plan. Well done, my good man.
He's the Gregg Opie Hughes of the sdp
Steve should give him a belly rub as a reward
Adam does have that annoying fake laugh but every sports podcast needs a passionate heart-person like Steve and rational mind-person like Adam. They complement each other very well.
Jesse is the rational one especially when it comes to the actual hockey games.
Disagree, he doesnt need to pull it back to go over goals when they can't even show the clips. No one wants to see dots move around.
Been waiting all day for this and you guys deliver as always. Thank you!
I don’t have time for Matthews. What about these soccer teams where players get shot and killer for missing a goal? There’s no way we put that much pressure on the leafs.
Am I going to watch a 2+ hour video about another team? Yes, yes I am.
I love how Paul Maurice made them so angry
That is exactly what the Panthers intended to do and these clowns fell for the bait lol
Also, I m curious on that little Darren Dreger tidbit right at the end of the show…
How can you "not have it" thats like saying a heart surgeon doesnt have it for a few days lol
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Love the honesty. Thanks for keeping it heart-breakingly real
Adam COOKED on this podcast. Adam is phenomenal in this epsiode
I only wanted this if they faced my Canes, so at least the boys got to experience the conference finals feeling
This isn’t cathartic anymore.
As a Floridian we pay for things as a state and various counties with sales and property taxes. So they have contributed but not as much as the old lady who buys a weekly scratcher ticket with her pack of PallMalls on the way to play Mahjong in Coral Gables.
I think it's a bit silly to ask Marner "Why do you want this?", like, probably for the same reason you have not changed team. He's probably dreamt forever about being part of the group that wins the cup with the leafs, that's not something you just go "ah lets go play somewhere else", if that's your dream. You are basically asking him to give up on his dream, a dream that you yourselves can't give up on.