Selous Scouts: The Controversial Legacy of Rhodesia's Elite Warriors

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  • Опубликовано: 20 сен 2024
  • Buckle up for a journey through the controversial legacy of Rhodesia's elite Selous Scouts. From their covert operations to their role in the Rhodesian Bush War, Join us as we discover the fascinating story of one of the most enigmatic military units in African history. Uncover the complexities of their operations and the lasting impact they left on Rhodesia and beyond.
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  • @ShimomuraTakezoWong
    @ShimomuraTakezoWong 4 месяца назад +35

    One of the Top Combat units in the World during that time that's the way to fight a war especially now with political Islamic extremism & terrorism; no holds barred.

  • @mikestaak7951
    @mikestaak7951 3 месяца назад +15

    My late brother was a scout

  • @oreilly1237878
    @oreilly1237878 4 месяца назад +9

    They had a operational military history second to none.

    • @TheGrenadier97
      @TheGrenadier97 3 месяца назад +1

      The portuguese were on the top with the rhodesians.

    • @ourclassicmovies1929-es1jd
      @ourclassicmovies1929-es1jd 3 месяца назад +1

      RHODESIA WAS A FIRST RATE ECONOMIC POWER
      # 2 IN THE RANKING ACROSS AFRICA WITH
      PLENTY OF ELECTRICITY AND AIR CONDITIONING
      A STABLE CURRENCY
      RUNNING WATER
      MEDICINE
      THRIVING AGRICULTURE
      CANALS FOR AGRICULTURAL EXPANSION
      SCHOOLS
      PLENTY OF JOBS
      NO TRASH IN THE STREETS
      THE LOCALS HAD THE 2ND HIGHEST BLACK WAGES
      ON THE CONTINENT AND IT WAS GROWING
      RAILROADS
      WILDLIFE CONSERVATION
      CLEAN STREETS
      AIRPLANES AND AIR TRAVEL
      PLENTY OF PETROL AND DIESEL
      PLENTY OF HYDRO ELECTRIC POWER
      PAVED ROADS
      HOSPITALS
      FUNCTIONING SEWAGE SYSTEMS
      THRIVING STEEL INDUSTRY
      WEALTHY BLACK NEIGHBORHOODS
      PLENTY OF FOOD
      HUGE TOBACCO TRADE
      A THRIVING ECONOMY
      PLENTY OF COAL EMERALDS AND IRON ORE
      TELEVISION
      GROWING INDUSTRIAL BASE

    • @wharris7594
      @wharris7594 Месяц назад

      ​@@TheGrenadier97
      Portuguese army is still being used in africa with Brazil anti terrorist special operations for the United Nations

  • @bernardhacking7462
    @bernardhacking7462 4 месяца назад +18

    Seloo not Sellus

    • @TimelessChroniclesYT
      @TimelessChroniclesYT  4 месяца назад +2

      Apologies for the mispronunciation, Thanks for the correction.

  • @rickybosman6158
    @rickybosman6158 3 месяца назад +10

    The Rhodesian a S.A.S.were equally one of the best combat forces in world.

  • @RobMacK-
    @RobMacK- 4 месяца назад +19

    Selou(s) silent 'S' pronounced Selloo and definatley not Sellas!

    • @TimelessChroniclesYT
      @TimelessChroniclesYT  4 месяца назад +1

      Please excuse the mispronounciation.

    • @Mark-te5uz
      @Mark-te5uz 4 месяца назад +4

      Was about to make a similar remark..👍

  • @stupitdog9686
    @stupitdog9686 4 месяца назад +12

    Good guys trying to improve things for everyone !

  • @coachjonjiujitsu
    @coachjonjiujitsu 3 месяца назад +14

    Rhodesians never die!

    • @ourclassicmovies1929-es1jd
      @ourclassicmovies1929-es1jd 2 месяца назад +1

      ITS FUNNY THAT THE MEDIA ACCEPTED THE UNSUBSTANTIATED RUMORS ABOUT THE SELOUS SCOUTS
      WHO ACCOUNTED FOR 68% OF INSURGENT KIA WHILE WE LOST ONLY 36 MEMBERS TOTAL
      NONE OF THE RUMOURS WERE EVER SUBSTANTIATED
      NO ONE
      BUT THE MEDIA CONTINUED TO LIE
      WHILE THE SAME MEDIA RELIGIOUSLY DENIED ALL THE VIOLENT MASSACRES PERPETRATED BY THE VARIOUS COMMUNIST INSURGENT GROUPS THAT HAD THOUSANDS OF AFRICAN WITNESSES

    • @peterbrigden2124
      @peterbrigden2124 2 дня назад

      @@coachjonjiujitsu The just became Zimbanders 😭😭🥰

  • @MichaelBessinger
    @MichaelBessinger 4 месяца назад +19

    I am proud to say i was one of the troopers to go into battle with the scouts i was in the SAS . Mess with the best die like the rest.😮😅😅

    • @ShimumaPoya
      @ShimumaPoya 4 месяца назад

      Share brotherman

    • @QUINNEETHLING
      @QUINNEETHLING 4 месяца назад

      Did you know Frik Muller?

    • @QUINNEETHLING
      @QUINNEETHLING 4 месяца назад +3

      You must give more info for me to believe that you were SAS. Sorry man, but today almost everybody claims to have been in the special forces.

    • @MichaelBessinger
      @MichaelBessinger 4 месяца назад

      As a SAS I made an oath to secrecy. And of many ordeals after all these years I still got PTSD. My CO was Major John Dealy Read.

    • @PhansiKhongoloza
      @PhansiKhongoloza 4 месяца назад +1

      The Scouts and the SAS were Rhodesia's biggest units...... everyone claims to have been a member!

  • @NikkiBlyth
    @NikkiBlyth Месяц назад +4

    The bravest souls you would ever meet. They were sold out and dealt a rotten deal by politicians. What a huge sacrifice these young men made😢😢

  • @wernervanderwalt8541
    @wernervanderwalt8541 4 месяца назад +4

    Apart from the horrible pronunciation of some names this the most accurate video I've seen on this highly secretive unit of the Rhodesian security forces. Well done.

  • @comitatus5337
    @comitatus5337 4 месяца назад +9

    Pronounced Selloo scouts

  • @mudgutsiv
    @mudgutsiv 4 месяца назад +5

    Great footage of regular and national service Rhodesian soldiers, particularly pre 1976 when full camouflage wasn't worn.
    Very few pictures of the Selous Scouts - and the RLI marching when talking of the disbandment, the Scouts weren't a final parade.

    • @TimelessChroniclesYT
      @TimelessChroniclesYT  4 месяца назад

      Thank you! Did my best to locate available footage of the scouts, but footage of them is indeed quite rare and challenging to source. The RLI march was intended to symbolically represent the end of an era rather than to be a literal depiction of the specific event. Thanks again for the feedback, I'll keep striving to find the best possible content.

    • @colinriddell9553
      @colinriddell9553 3 месяца назад

      The clip you used was not RLI but infact the Air Force.

  • @grahampovey8073
    @grahampovey8073 4 месяца назад +8

    Pamwe Chete!

  • @zekeooo2
    @zekeooo2 4 месяца назад +3

    pretty neat video, there's a podcast that has a bunch of episodes with different selous scouts being interviewed if you want to go further down the rabbit hole. it's called "fighting men of rhodesia" it's a pretty interesting podcast regardless of someones views of the war. certainly interesting for someone into history that is. it has episodes with rhodesian soldiers being interviewed, rhodesian police officers, one episode with someone from the opposing forces and even an episode with an interview of a rhodesian farm family member

  • @ourclassicmovies1929-es1jd
    @ourclassicmovies1929-es1jd 3 месяца назад +6

    " WE GET TO RIDE MOTORCYCLES INTO BATTLE? "
    " YES "
    " AND WEAR SHORT SHORTS?"
    " YES"
    " WHERE DO I SIGN ?"

  • @TheGrenadier97
    @TheGrenadier97 3 месяца назад +2

    Check out the portuguese Flechas of east Angola. Author John P. Cann has a good Osprey-style book about them, and other troops of the Ultramar. The specific recruitment and inclusion of the Flechas in the excepcionally well-suited portuguese counter-insurgency forces were perhaps even more remarkable.

    • @TimelessChroniclesYT
      @TimelessChroniclesYT  3 месяца назад +2

      Thank you for the recommendation! Yes, there are some fascinating stories from the Ultramar, I'll try to make a video about the Flechas as well.

  • @gazhandrail
    @gazhandrail 4 месяца назад +15

    When narrating something like this, you need to get your pronunciations right. Main example, it is pronounced "Sel-oos Scouts", not "Selous" as in "Jelous."

    • @stikkkkk
      @stikkkkk 3 месяца назад +1

      Thanks for that, was driving me nuts!

    • @gazhandrail
      @gazhandrail 3 месяца назад +1

      @@stikkkkk No worries, Mate. Yeah, me too!

    • @seandobson499
      @seandobson499 3 месяца назад

      Named in honour of Frederick Courtney Selous, on whom Sir Henry Rider Haggard based his most famous fictional creation, Allan Quatermain.

  • @GhostRanger5060
    @GhostRanger5060 3 месяца назад +9

    When men were men.

  • @rodlaidlaw-b3f
    @rodlaidlaw-b3f 4 месяца назад +7

    loo tenant???

  • @fmyles3
    @fmyles3 4 месяца назад +6

    Rhodesia - Will be back soon.

    • @ozzyphil74
      @ozzyphil74 4 месяца назад +1

      In your dreams... Lol...

    • @skillzsett7958
      @skillzsett7958 4 месяца назад

      ​@@ozzyphil74👊🏻

    • @ayodejiolowokere1076
      @ayodejiolowokere1076 4 месяца назад

      In Hell, why not?

    • @conceretejungle1150
      @conceretejungle1150 3 месяца назад +1

      Lol😂😂😂 you so funny😂😂😂

    • @arashrezaee1464
      @arashrezaee1464 2 месяца назад

      highly doubt it. There's hardly any whites left in Zimbabwe to even make that a considerable reality

  • @TimSerras
    @TimSerras 4 месяца назад +2

    How can you infiltrate enemy base disguised as a defector and still be able to kill, destroy and slip away without being detected? So, why desguise?

    • @TimelessChroniclesYT
      @TimelessChroniclesYT  4 месяца назад +2

      There were instances where native African Rhodesian infantry troops would defect to the side of the rebels. So the Selous Scouts took advantage of that. For them, disguising as defectors would help in gaining the enemy's trust. As the rebels didn’t have strong intelligence or counterintelligence units, they were less likely to suspect someone of their own that they believed had turned against the Rhodesians, allowing the scouts to operate more freely within the base.
      The scouts also maintained a low profile and avoided unnecessary interactions. Only took action when they were confident it won't raise suspicions.
      When the time came to kill, destroy, or sabotage, They chose targets that will cause the most disruption while minimizing the risk of immediate detection.

    • @TimSerras
      @TimSerras 4 месяца назад

      @@TimelessChroniclesYT I understand what you mean. What puzzles me is the “defector “. I witnessed the same ops with Portuguese GEP’s (black paratroopers) what they called operation manioc (mandioca) but they posed as Frelimo guerrillas not defectors. That would raise great suspicion within the guerrillas. Many new groups would arrive from Zambia or Tanzania and since communications within the Frelimo was pratically non existing, they were almost always welcomed. Once the GEP’s were confident enough, they would act with Portuguese special forces (comandos or paras) as backup. Most operation manioc were very successful. Flechas also used same procedure in Angola. Defectors of Portuguese Army in Frelimo had to go through a very painful procedure before being accepted, many were not and were executed , the process lasting several days, even weeks. One famous manioc operator was sergeant Robbie (Ribeiro his real name) a Cape Verdean that is mentioned in Breytenbach’s book “Forged in battle “ about Bravo group in Angola. Breytenbach even recommended he receive the Honoris cross for bravery but it was refused. He was killed by a SA army truck that jumped the military convoy in SWA .

  • @mikestaak7951
    @mikestaak7951 3 месяца назад +2

    Exactly

  • @MichaelPersson-d5h
    @MichaelPersson-d5h 3 месяца назад +9

    All this is very well.
    You may love them or hate them. They were awesome in their effectiveness and ruthlessness.
    What always haunts me about Rhodesia is that it's fatal flaw was apparent from its formation.
    Similar to the Afrikaners in South Africa; they seemed to exclude from their plans the fact that Africans existed and shared the land into which they had moved.
    In reflection it was a big mistake.
    The Rhodesians basically lost everything in the end.
    But the underlying stupidity of never addressing a fundamental flaw in their plans belongs to them alone.

    • @rhodesia1578
      @rhodesia1578 3 месяца назад +3

      In your opinion 😂 ! You speculate ! You assume !!

    • @groovydrzi6967
      @groovydrzi6967 3 месяца назад

      Well said.

    • @MichaelPersson-d5h
      @MichaelPersson-d5h 3 месяца назад +2

      I read a lot of history books.
      Rhodes' Pioneer Column had the seeds that grew into the whites reluctance to recognize any black land rights. (The absolute reluctance to recognize the "land issue since at least 1920).
      The surrender of Chetswaio was automatically assumed to mean that the whites owned all the territory that the Shona had occupied for centuries. PROBLEM.
      Don't forget, the Eastern half of Zimbabwe was considered part of Mozambique until Rhodes bulldozed his way in there. PROBLEM.
      Prior to that, Mzilikazi's invasion of the south western area of Zimbabwe only occurred mid 1800's. The Zulu's were a very recent occurrence in that area and were raiding, raping and pillaging the Shona. Who gave them all of Zimbabwe? It never happened.
      PROBLEM.
      There was very little legitimacy regarding Rhodes invasion. Queen Victoria just looked the other way and let it go on...PROBLEM.
      But forget that bit; conquest is conquest, all races do it and have done it.
      Think about this; HOLISTIC thinking (Alan Savoury, a great Rhodesian himself, and Jan Smuts: two men who invented/endorse this method) ; holistic thinking requires that you exclude nothing from your list whence you tackle a problem in seeking a solution.
      My point is this: by omitting THE LAND ISSUE, from the very beginning, the whites doomed Rhodesia.
      No amount of "sweeping it under the carpet," or omiting the above-mentioned historical PROBLEMS, could put this issue away.
      And it's this so many whites do not want to accept.
      I'm white. I'm an Africa.
      I was conceived in Rhodesia, born in South Africa, raised and educated in Swaziland, and live and farm in Mozambique.
      And I read a lot of history.
      Rhodesia had a fatal flaw.
      And it is the white man's fault for never recognizing it.
      For decade after a decade, they chose not to look it in the face and deal with it honestly.
      It's done and dusted now.
      Our fault.

  • @daffidkane8350
    @daffidkane8350 4 месяца назад +1

    1800 members? That’s almost a brigade!

    • @TimelessChroniclesYT
      @TimelessChroniclesYT  4 месяца назад

      Indeed, 1,800 members is a substantial number, comparable to the size of a brigade in later stages. Most of the later additions were regular RLI troops who were not permanently assigned to the unit. The expansion to this scale highlights the significant increase in their operational capacity, even though it came with challenges related to personnel quality and operational effectiveness.

    • @colinriddell9553
      @colinriddell9553 3 месяца назад +1

      It was actually 1650 personal, of which a vast majority of the black personnel were ex guerrillas

    • @colinriddell9553
      @colinriddell9553 3 месяца назад

      Only read your comment after, completely wrong!
      The unit was actually formed by SAS & RAR personal in the experimental stage. Once it was decided to form a unit, a selection process was introduced where persons from all units could try for selection. You could break down to unit into two sections, internal operations consisted of mainly black personal from predominantly the RAR & and turned! Captured guerrillas with white regular soldiers as control. The Assualt grp consisted mainly of white territorial personal.

  • @Krokmannetjie
    @Krokmannetjie Месяц назад

    Nice

  • @FreeWorldSoldier1
    @FreeWorldSoldier1 3 месяца назад +4

    Men of steel ❣️

  • @MrPh30
    @MrPh30 3 месяца назад +4

    Good troops , that mostly were farm guys and pro Hunters . All guys no matter where one came from were equal there . Capable of much , and what was the expression again “ Miskuzi “

  • @peterbrigden2124
    @peterbrigden2124 4 месяца назад +1

    It must have been the biggest and best army in the world ? Everyone Zimbabwean that I know was in it and brag about it. Its the same with the South African army, the only trouble is that they both lost their respective wars and their countries 😈😈😈😈

    • @billisaac326
      @billisaac326 4 месяца назад +1

      Don,t you mean every Rhodesian was in it? Everyone but you.

    • @johncarey5141
      @johncarey5141 2 месяца назад

      They lost really look at the shit holes now ,no the people lost to corruption, and lies ,😮

    • @wharris7594
      @wharris7594 Месяц назад

      Mugabe was the same greedy self empowered self serving corrupt warlord just like all the rest, and look at this place today, no food

    • @peterbrigden2124
      @peterbrigden2124 2 дня назад

      @@billisaac326 Didn't live here then ?

  • @conceretejungle1150
    @conceretejungle1150 3 месяца назад

    Pamberi ne ZANU PF

  • @hoseA-sy4ld
    @hoseA-sy4ld 4 месяца назад +1

    the woodoo

  • @DirkJacobsz
    @DirkJacobsz 3 месяца назад

    who cares who wins..

  • @Uuu29-fy2vc
    @Uuu29-fy2vc 3 месяца назад +2

    But African triumphed

    • @russellcoleman8840
      @russellcoleman8840 3 месяца назад +11

      Yeah they have really gone ahead since independence. Smashing it

    • @Mike-jz9tc
      @Mike-jz9tc 2 месяца назад

      Politics

    • @AA-4cx250b
      @AA-4cx250b 2 месяца назад +5

      Yes Africa won then ruined it

    • @d0g780
      @d0g780 Месяц назад +2

      ​@@AA-4cx250bAfrica was financed by Communism and American politics. Rhodesia was alone.

  • @groovydrzi6967
    @groovydrzi6967 3 месяца назад +3

    They murdered many innocent people and caused the death of many more. They instilled terror into the hearts of many of us African teenagers of the 70s. And what did they achieve in the final analysis?

    • @Ghoulza
      @Ghoulza Месяц назад +3

      well thats a load of bullshit. Mugabe was the terrorist and look what he did to the country. destroyed it, made himself rich and wrecked the country and it's people. if Rhodesia had stayed now of that would have happened and it would be one of the most powerfull countries in afrcia. but you idiots could see that far ahead you just wanted everything handed to you for free, well you got what you wanted and lead to hundreds of thousands of deaths

    • @007bombastic
      @007bombastic 28 дней назад +3

      The failed state of Zimbabwe. Bravo.

  • @terrancecharles2108
    @terrancecharles2108 3 месяца назад

    All this hype. But still got their asses kick in my the cubans in Angola. Smfh

    • @colinriddell9553
      @colinriddell9553 3 месяца назад +12

      Should get your facts right!, before you make such a stupid comment!. Two different countries and armies.

    • @Enoch940
      @Enoch940 Месяц назад +1

      True . The guy thick. Cubans were killed in huge numbers by South Africans.

  • @MabvutoPhiri2015
    @MabvutoPhiri2015 3 месяца назад +2

    These were cowards who attacked inocent civilians who fought racism