What Lyes was saying about Neymar being the first RUclips baller is facts. Back in 2011-2012 times Neymar compilations were all over youtube even before it was a thing. And the crazy thing is that Neymar wasn't even playing in europe back then, he was still at Santos
Cams you're usually right, but Argentina already made up their mind about their goat generally. Messi is loved and adored by the people. It's not the same sentiment as a few years ago.
For me Neymar needs it more, he's been in the shadow of Messi and Ronaldo his whole career so if he wins the World Cup that's his legacy as the 3rd GOAT of his era CONFIRMED. Messi doesn't need to win the World Cup he will be the Goat regardless... Neymar HAS TO do it to prove to himself he's of their level and to show all the critics that disrespected him 🔥🙏
Neymar is the 3rd greatest player of his generation, but is closely the second most talented after Messi. He is the most disrespected player I’ve seen in my life! I would love it if Messi wins the World Cup, but I would equally love it if Neymar were to win it so people can finally start giving him the flowers he deserves.
Higher expectation : Messi. If he does win it, Maradona will still be the goat in Argentina, but it will solidifiy his GOAT status. Must win/ Need it more : Neymar. I agree with what Lyes saidabout that point.
Both said some very good points but I think neymar needs the World Cup more to solidify himself with the greats and to stop the disrespect. If mbappe didn’t win the last World Cup I don’t think people would respect him especially for only winning the ligue 1 which ain’t a big achievement for someone of his calibre.
I don't think any of these two actually NEED the World Cup but considering the fact that Neymar is too disrespected and the fact that there's no way they'll give him a Ballon d'Or without WC I'll say that he should definitely win it instead of Messi. 🤷🏻♀ that boy has been carrying whole Brazil for the last decade or sth... at 22 carried that mediocre Brazil squad to quarter-finals before getting almost paralysed, in 2018 even in constant pain after the damn botched surgery he was doing everything he could but once again had a team that let him down, do not get me started on Copa 21 - he was the only one trying his best, he was unstoppable, literally scared Argentina and lord knows how he came out of that game with his legs intact, if the ref had given red cards as he should have done that game would have ended very differently even with Neymar being the only one doing anything in his squad. and even with injuries and his team's losses he's still the best South American player in international competitions. imho Brazil team OWES it to him to win this WC (especially after last Copa). ✌🏻
Cams I hear your points Messi is cemented in Argentina - World Cup would be the icing in my opinion That Copa America brought sensational scenes in Argentina - Covid put a downer on things. When you reeled off those legends, Pele, R9, Ronaldinho, Rivaldo etc - Neymar needs to establish himself there with a World Cup imo Shockingly, Neymar has only won the Confederations Cup with Brazil
its obvs Messi, he and his fans say hes the best ever he cant be without leading his country the trophy, neymar doesnt claim to be the best sorry but for me personally hes very good but he hasnt done what others has done, im younger but I still have agree with the older mindset the World Cup is the biggest most important stage just because Messi and Ronaldo have failed their fanbases try to downplay the importance, you cant sit here and say youre the GOAT when you have less goals in knockout to Dele Alli who has retired from football aged 25, I dont care about your fans
You need to win a world cup to be considered the greatest. Messi has underperformed massively and never gets blamed. All the goals between the two for their nations has won them little.
MESSI NEEDS IT MORE TO END THE GOAT DEBATE WITH RONALDO AND THE OTHER OLD HEADS IN PELE AND MARADONA. NEYMAR NEEDS IT THOUGH IF HE RETIRES WITH NO WC PLUS NO CL WITH PSG HIS LEGACY GONNA LOOK SPOOKY.
@@mal110 If Croatia England, and Uruguay can get to the final/semis, Portugal can get to the Semi or even the final. If they can gel and hit peak form in the next month anything can happen it's a cup competition ultimately. France did not click for Euro's despite having the best team on paper, and Italy failed to qualify for the WC.
I mean he is not in his best form and Portugal even tho have good individual players they really haven't been playing well as a team, so it is hard to have expectations around them till they prove us other wise in the world cup group stages
@@CultureCams I watched you say Neymar has had a better international career when Messi has played in a WC Final, won WC player of the tournament and a Copa. Love Neymar too but cmon now bro
when did he choke against Messi ? do you mean Copa finals? Brazil choked against Argentina there but Neymar was the best player on the pitch that day he was literally unstoppable.
@@prashantvipani9172 it wasnt really about full maracanna. it was simply Brazil squad not performing as they should have - it was just basically Neymar against Argentina death squad (lord knows how he managed to keep his legs intact) and maybe Richarlison had one or two moments... anyway that Copa was a mess... i NEED these two teams to meet at their best it would be spectacular 🙏🏻
Neymar has never won shit as the leading star so how has he accomplished more then some the Brazilian greats. No world cup no Copa America can't win champion league for PSG and no ballon d'or.
cams is lowkey becoming my favorite youtuber
bruddas cold that’s why !
What Lyes was saying about Neymar being the first RUclips baller is facts. Back in 2011-2012 times Neymar compilations were all over youtube even before it was a thing. And the crazy thing is that Neymar wasn't even playing in europe back then, he was still at Santos
Cams and Lyes have great chemistry, both articulate and I genuinely enjoy their shows. Keep up the content lads!
People has to respect Neymar forreal
HIT THE LIKES!
Such a nice discussion and I agree with Lyes, Neymar NEEDS this WC more than any player. 100% this trophy can make or break his legecy.
Messi really delivered
First Take/Undisputed won’t cover the World Cup extensively so we’ve gotta come to FTBL!
These two know ball. I loved this discussion thoroughly
Messi and Argentina won it 😅
Cams you're usually right, but Argentina already made up their mind about their goat generally.
Messi is loved and adored by the people. It's not the same sentiment as a few years ago.
For me Neymar needs it more, he's been in the shadow of Messi and Ronaldo his whole career so if he wins the World Cup that's his legacy as the 3rd GOAT of his era CONFIRMED. Messi doesn't need to win the World Cup he will be the Goat regardless... Neymar HAS TO do it to prove to himself he's of their level and to show all the critics that disrespected him 🔥🙏
I think he is pretty much cemented at 3rd best of this generation bro and still has 2/3 years left of top level
@@fisehaeyob for me neymar winning the world cup puts him in top 10 of all time IMO
@@AyaanKhan-wi7qc same for me
well there’s a reason why messi is the goat, same reason he won the world cup
Brilliant video this, come on neymar! 🇧🇷❤️
"After 4 tournaments in 3 years" 😂😂😂
Neymar is the 3rd greatest player of his generation, but is closely the second most talented after Messi. He is the most disrespected player I’ve seen in my life! I would love it if Messi wins the World Cup, but I would equally love it if Neymar were to win it so people can finally start giving him the flowers he deserves.
Higher expectation : Messi. If he does win it, Maradona will still be the goat in Argentina, but it will solidifiy his GOAT status.
Must win/ Need it more : Neymar. I agree with what Lyes saidabout that point.
Love this content. FTBL are doing a great job. Its too bad Germany will win it ha!
Both said some very good points but I think neymar needs the World Cup more to solidify himself with the greats and to stop the disrespect. If mbappe didn’t win the last World Cup I don’t think people would respect him especially for only winning the ligue 1 which ain’t a big achievement for someone of his calibre.
Lyes and Cams?! I see Shaq and Kobe.
mbappe messi neymar, keep talkin. yall not ready for this ronaldo wc run. portugal is winnin it
Damn that did not age well
Brazil🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷 hexa🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 2022 Qatar🇶🇦and psg win Ucl 🏆Neymar will win this year 🙌
I don't think any of these two actually NEED the World Cup but considering the fact that Neymar is too disrespected and the fact that there's no way they'll give him a Ballon d'Or without WC I'll say that he should definitely win it instead of Messi. 🤷🏻♀ that boy has been carrying whole Brazil for the last decade or sth... at 22 carried that mediocre Brazil squad to quarter-finals before getting almost paralysed, in 2018 even in constant pain after the damn botched surgery he was doing everything he could but once again had a team that let him down, do not get me started on Copa 21 - he was the only one trying his best, he was unstoppable, literally scared Argentina and lord knows how he came out of that game with his legs intact, if the ref had given red cards as he should have done that game would have ended very differently even with Neymar being the only one doing anything in his squad. and even with injuries and his team's losses he's still the best South American player in international competitions. imho Brazil team OWES it to him to win this WC (especially after last Copa). ✌🏻
First Take in the house!!!
Cams I hear your points
Messi is cemented in Argentina - World Cup would be the icing in my opinion
That Copa America brought sensational scenes in Argentina - Covid put a downer on things.
When you reeled off those legends, Pele, R9, Ronaldinho, Rivaldo etc - Neymar needs to establish himself there with a World Cup imo
Shockingly, Neymar has only won the Confederations Cup with Brazil
Finally someone respecting Neymar ❤
This should not be about who needs more, but rather who deserves it more. Obviously, Neymar deserves it more!
its obvs Messi, he and his fans say hes the best ever he cant be without leading his country the trophy, neymar doesnt claim to be the best
sorry but for me personally hes very good but he hasnt done what others has done, im younger but I still have agree with the older mindset the World Cup is the biggest most important stage just because Messi and Ronaldo have failed their fanbases try to downplay the importance, you cant sit here and say youre the GOAT when you have less goals in knockout to Dele Alli who has retired from football aged 25, I dont care about your fans
You need to win a world cup to be considered the greatest. Messi has underperformed massively and never gets blamed. All the goals between the two for their nations has won them little.
I just want neymar to win just neymar
Neymar👑👑👑
MESSI NEEDS IT MORE TO END THE GOAT DEBATE WITH RONALDO AND THE OTHER OLD HEADS IN PELE AND MARADONA. NEYMAR NEEDS IT THOUGH IF HE RETIRES WITH NO WC PLUS NO CL WITH PSG HIS LEGACY GONNA LOOK SPOOKY.
Neymar needs the world cup more than ever
Crazy that no one ain’t speaking about Ronaldo winning it. Sad times💔
He’s 37 and is dropping 1/10 performances for club and country this season
Portugal have the experience and the quality to go far. But I don’t think they’ll get past the quarterfinals
@@mal110 If Croatia England, and Uruguay can get to the final/semis, Portugal can get to the Semi or even the final. If they can gel and hit peak form in the next month anything can happen it's a cup competition ultimately.
France did not click for Euro's despite having the best team on paper, and Italy failed to qualify for the WC.
Messi 🐐
I believe Brazil will win it
Messi needs more to win world cup
Argentina have 3 World Cups
We had Mbappe tho🤷🏾♂️
The Stephen A and Max Kellerman duo
Brazil will win it
Ronaldo not in these debates no more? Damn 👀
I mean he is not in his best form and Portugal even tho have good individual players they really haven't been playing well as a team, so it is hard to have expectations around them till they prove us other wise in the world cup group stages
@@manoah938 still internationals is different bro. Not saying they gonna win it but cmon.
invite some new guests mate.
Cam’s definitely a Messi hater
Ffs😂. Nooo. Best ive seen
@@CultureCams I watched you say Neymar has had a better international career when Messi has played in a WC Final, won WC player of the tournament and a Copa. Love Neymar too but cmon now bro
@@CultureCams I rate your ball opinions never the less💯
@@d1ordk808 Neymar has definitely had a better international career, it would be pretty silly to argue against that
@@44nkk How has Neymar had a better career?
Brazil team is more stronger than Argentina
Ferran Torres vs Fred
Maradona cheated to win that World Cup lool
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Messi choked in finals while neymar don’t even make the finals and the time he did he choked against Messi
when did he choke against Messi ? do you mean Copa finals? Brazil choked against Argentina there but Neymar was the best player on the pitch that day he was literally unstoppable.
@@th6199 lol but he was stopped, but i agree with a full maracanna the game might have turned different
@@prashantvipani9172 it wasnt really about full maracanna. it was simply Brazil squad not performing as they should have - it was just basically Neymar against Argentina death squad (lord knows how he managed to keep his legs intact) and maybe Richarlison had one or two moments... anyway that Copa was a mess... i NEED these two teams to meet at their best it would be spectacular 🙏🏻
@@th6199 nah full maracana would have definitely influenced the game. And if Alisson started
@Bels Messi was nowhere to be seen in the copa final though…
Neymar has never won shit as the leading star so how has he accomplished more then some the Brazilian greats. No world cup no Copa America can't win champion league for PSG and no ballon d'or.