I'm a bit late to posting for this MOC since I was going to do Jing Yuan/Argenti, but I didn't like how the support division was working since Bronya/Sparkle is much weaker than it usually is due to Aventurine being purely single target + the gamble advances messing up rotations at times. I'll figure it out later. Anyways, this MOC is definitely feels easier and it's more fun since I'm not gated by giant HP bloating puppets. I had a LOT of excess damage in this run, since Dan Heng had another turn in the first wave and ult for the second wave. My initial rotation for Jing Yuan's side was letting LL overtake him at 8 stacks and finish the wave with 5 stacks for easier LL management on Aventurine, but letting a 10 stack rip is more relatable to most people so I opted for that instead.
My friend it would be a pleasure to know PLEASE who is better Sparkle E1S1 or Robin E0S0 in terms of dmg buff not Action please answer i am confused on who to pull feixiao or robin
Robin. Her action advance is a core part of her damage buffing, since it lets you do more damage by having another turn. But even apart from that, she lets everyone in the party become a DPS, so you can chunk down enemies so your carry can kill them easier.
They're definitely testing summon stuff with the current trashcan event, so we'll have to see. Robin + Aventurine help cover for the fact that LL only moves once, but it'd be really nice to have a Tingyun upgrade that can give him 2 LL's a cycle.
@@Tyltingi dont think so, since JY's LL doesnt has dedicated action forward, it just have dynamic SPD who also alr fixed. What kind of buff we could get for the buff that make the summon much faster?🤔
@@eula7113Well, they have a mechanic in the game to move LL forward, it's just tied to Hunt resonance in SU. They just need to make a character who does the same
If the summon meta is real,the summon support will probably push up summons to give them more actions,since well.. summons need to act to do something, so it's definitely possible. @@eula7113
Man,I see in Mr Pokke a comment that he was not beating moc 12,he was using Jy and one of the comments says that the problem was Jy,then I remembered of you and started laughing
Crit DMG means nothing if you don't have the Crit rate to even trigger it lol. Jing Yuan is clunky to play because he's a 1.0 character, which was when they weren't sure where they wanted to take FUA's (every 1.0 FUA is extremely conditional or RNG). But because of his clunkiness, it's very easy to tell who can play him and who cannot. Even with LL's limitations, he's still keeping up with modern characters (my baseline average metrics are 30K in PF, 3400-3600 AV in AS, and 3-4 cycles in MOC), along with other "extremely powercrept" characters like Blade, Seele, and Jingliu.
@@tuananhdang7385 All he has left is to upgrade from Tingyun, but her Energy is just mandatory. But who knows, maybe they won't care about Energy balancing in 3.0.
@@Tylting "rumor has it" that 3.0+ will be pushing summons meta (just like 2.0+ has been mainly FuA and Break releases). If that's true then JY, Topaz and Lingsha will probably get some indirect buffs (again). Whether it's team synergies, relics or lightcones. We shall see. I'm excited tho lol
Actually, I also played as DanHeng in the first half. It's quite satisfying, 'cause danheng destroy them faster than firefly. I'm pretty glad for danheng 😌
As always your Jingyuan runs are so satisfying. Here's to hoping I'll get Robin's e1 and lightcone next patch. Also, how much of an upgrade is Aven's lightcone? His shield seems sturdier than my s0 Aven.
so glad theres fellow danheng IL in first half. im using dan heng IL with sparkle robin and huohuo. and way faster than using super break team. im manage to get 1 cycle, so lucky with rng
Super Break is kinda bad this time around if you aren't using Boothill or Firefly since both can implant weakness, and either side is missing Imaginary or Fire, which slows it down a lot.
Ngl, I really want Sparkle for my DHIL. It just doesn't feel the same playing him without Sparkle. But unfortunately, I lost 50/50. And Feixiao and Moze just looks so fun to use together that I kinda just don't want to miss out on them considering I'm a big fan of the FuA archetype and want to do a double hunt FuA run soon featuring Ratio-Topaz and Feixiao-Moze combo on both sides.
Hanya's good enough and is roughly half a cycle/1 cycle slower than Sparkle on average for him. But yeah it feels a lot smoother with having Action Advance rather than SPD buffs.
I knew it you have E1 Robin! Also used JY but his dmg in the first part b4 aventurine boss isnt really high since the enemies dont have lightning weakness. E1 Robin really makes a difference. Now I want to at least get her e1 instead of going all out on Sunday
Her E1 would have less impact if I buffed up with Tingyun and used Aven's ult, but that'd kinda ruin my opening on the 2nd wave for this 1 cycle. But yeah E1 Robin is really strong, honestly the best investment you can make imo.
@@portesmelo it’s my usual set yeah. I did farm a broken keel set for him but I didn’t notice a difference since it balances out between his personal damage being boosted or slightly lower personal damage but boosting the main carry. If you want max shields, use the set for that but I have no trouble with Pioneer at all from MOC to DU6.
@@Tylting its not a problem being below 134 speed? While I was building mine I was very mindfull about that but I was (and still am) at the beginning of the game, been playng for about 5 months now. ps: my eventurine is with purity palace but with salsotto
134 SPD is kinda hard to get while balancing his DEF and Crit stats, and I haven't had any scenario where I was like "man, if only I had 134 SPD on Aventurine" at all.
Gallagher, since he uses QPQ the best for Robin and has a good amount of actions to proc Robin's Concerto. But he is worse at sustaining than Aventurine, especially for Robin who can't use Besotted to heal herself. Otherwise you can use any sustain but you will clear slower.
It's a good team, just weaker and slower due to no Robin, and Huohuo can't trigger the Turbulence as well as Aventurine. You'll probably clear in 3-4 cycles and I may showcase it in a later video.
@@TyltingI clear the second part with Jing Yuan's team consisting of Sparkle, Tingyun, and Huohuo and can attest to him clearing it in 4 cycle. Probably can do 3 if I'm more careful about the LL not entering the gamble phase, but it's already good enough for me 😂
@@michaelharis9962 except that eidolons are more expensive than LC, considering you're dealing with a 5050, also sparkle LC is more worth than her E1 so it's not always the case, robin LC allows to use her ult easier, which the most important thing of her kit
@@sorashizen5130 yea but harmony has a variety of good non-banner cones. Stuff like dance3 and motp give stats more valuable than pure stat boosts from 5* cones so people almost always end up using them over limited ones. Not only that, most limited harmony cones are really niche. It'd be nice if sparkle come worked on other harmonies but it only functions properly on her. All this to say, dps cones are still the way to go at the end of the day
If you use Sparkle a lot, I'd go for hers since her LC has a lot more value than Robin's (Robin has an easy substitute with Bronya's LC, while no other Harmony LC has the Crit stats of Sparkle's). However, if you happen to have a lot of copies of DDD or have Bronya's LC on Sparkle, then I'd probably save unless missing Crits is a major problem.
I pointed out the excess damage because my supports are more invested, so if you have lower investment than me you can still probably clear the same but take slighly more time + my Dan Heng is using Under The Blue Sky instead of Fall on the Aeon.
I was so scared to use JY against Kafka due to her lighting resist, but then I killed her much faster than puppets. I'm so glad that they finally stopped making MoC fo firefly only. Unfortunately special treatment for fireflop will return soon. That's so annoying tbh. If she is that strong why she needs a boss tailored to her in 4 MoCs??
Even with my E1S1 Robin, Kafka's Lightning RES wasn't that bad and it'd still be a really easy 1-2 cycle I'd wager. Honestly my main issue with the puppets being here for 2 months was that you're more or less forced to use Gallagher, which I don't mind, but it gets repetitive after a while.
I'm a bit late to posting for this MOC since I was going to do Jing Yuan/Argenti, but I didn't like how the support division was working since Bronya/Sparkle is much weaker than it usually is due to Aventurine being purely single target + the gamble advances messing up rotations at times. I'll figure it out later.
Anyways, this MOC is definitely feels easier and it's more fun since I'm not gated by giant HP bloating puppets. I had a LOT of excess damage in this run, since Dan Heng had another turn in the first wave and ult for the second wave. My initial rotation for Jing Yuan's side was letting LL overtake him at 8 stacks and finish the wave with 5 stacks for easier LL management on Aventurine, but letting a 10 stack rip is more relatable to most people so I opted for that instead.
My friend it would be a pleasure to know PLEASE
who is better Sparkle E1S1 or Robin E0S0 in terms of dmg buff not Action please answer i am confused on who to pull feixiao or robin
Robin. Her action advance is a core part of her damage buffing, since it lets you do more damage by having another turn. But even apart from that, she lets everyone in the party become a DPS, so you can chunk down enemies so your carry can kill them easier.
@@Tylting well robin it is, thanks
Can't wait for even more JY buffs soon (the new banana set, and hopefully summon buffers in the future). Love the general.
They're definitely testing summon stuff with the current trashcan event, so we'll have to see. Robin + Aventurine help cover for the fact that LL only moves once, but it'd be really nice to have a Tingyun upgrade that can give him 2 LL's a cycle.
@@Tyltingi dont think so, since JY's LL doesnt has dedicated action forward, it just have dynamic SPD who also alr fixed.
What kind of buff we could get for the buff that make the summon much faster?🤔
@@eula7113Well, they have a mechanic in the game to move LL forward, it's just tied to Hunt resonance in SU. They just need to make a character who does the same
If the summon meta is real,the summon support will probably push up summons to give them more actions,since well.. summons need to act to do something, so it's definitely possible. @@eula7113
Dan Heng runs are always fun to watch
Really great clears as always!
Thank you for taking the time to add your run's comments as subtitle each time, I appreciate them a lot.
Man,I see in Mr Pokke a comment that he was not beating moc 12,he was using Jy and one of the comments says that the problem was Jy,then I remembered of you and started laughing
He have 175 cd,he didn’t say the crit rate though
Crit DMG means nothing if you don't have the Crit rate to even trigger it lol.
Jing Yuan is clunky to play because he's a 1.0 character, which was when they weren't sure where they wanted to take FUA's (every 1.0 FUA is extremely conditional or RNG). But because of his clunkiness, it's very easy to tell who can play him and who cannot. Even with LL's limitations, he's still keeping up with modern characters (my baseline average metrics are 30K in PF, 3400-3600 AV in AS, and 3-4 cycles in MOC), along with other "extremely powercrept" characters like Blade, Seele, and Jingliu.
@@Tyltingthe things thats keeping him alive is the fact that his multipliers are pretty high and every patch he gets a mini buff
@@tuananhdang7385 All he has left is to upgrade from Tingyun, but her Energy is just mandatory. But who knows, maybe they won't care about Energy balancing in 3.0.
@@Tylting "rumor has it" that 3.0+ will be pushing summons meta (just like 2.0+ has been mainly FuA and Break releases). If that's true then JY, Topaz and Lingsha will probably get some indirect buffs (again). Whether it's team synergies, relics or lightcones. We shall see. I'm excited tho lol
Actually, I also played as DanHeng in the first half. It's quite satisfying, 'cause danheng destroy them faster than firefly. I'm pretty glad for danheng 😌
Me too my IL finished Kafka in 3 cycle
@@Lekhrajregar54 mine also in 3 cycles :D
@@tlektesgabdullin837 did you complete 3 star
@@Lekhrajregar54 of course
My E0S0 firefly finished in 2 cycle tho
I will never get tired of watching Jing Yuan gameplay
The run on the Jingyuan side was really impressive. I will try to do the same myself.
awesome clear like always! king yuan is proud of you! 😎
I was waiting for your runs
They're always my fav in this platform
I hope to continue meeting your expectations.
I really like your music choices
Amazing as always🎉
I love how RM still being one of the most OP broken Support so far... From DoT team, to Super Break team, to Hypercarry team...
Another amazing showcase of my boys
As always your Jingyuan runs are so satisfying. Here's to hoping I'll get Robin's e1 and lightcone next patch. Also, how much of an upgrade is Aven's lightcone? His shield seems sturdier than my s0 Aven.
His LC lets him become a more legitimate sub-DPS. I haven't tried him without his LC so I don't know the shield difference though.
Oongga bongga with da dragon husband!
very nice clears as always
so glad theres fellow danheng IL in first half. im using dan heng IL with sparkle robin and huohuo. and way faster than using super break team. im manage to get 1 cycle, so lucky with rng
Super Break is kinda bad this time around if you aren't using Boothill or Firefly since both can implant weakness, and either side is missing Imaginary or Fire, which slows it down a lot.
Unexpected Nierl song❤
Here a people sows ost 😮
Also, nice clears
You can never escape the ricefields.
Ngl, I really want Sparkle for my DHIL. It just doesn't feel the same playing him without Sparkle. But unfortunately, I lost 50/50. And Feixiao and Moze just looks so fun to use together that I kinda just don't want to miss out on them considering I'm a big fan of the FuA archetype and want to do a double hunt FuA run soon featuring Ratio-Topaz and Feixiao-Moze combo on both sides.
Hanya's good enough and is roughly half a cycle/1 cycle slower than Sparkle on average for him. But yeah it feels a lot smoother with having Action Advance rather than SPD buffs.
I knew it you have E1 Robin! Also used JY but his dmg in the first part b4 aventurine boss isnt really high since the enemies dont have lightning weakness. E1 Robin really makes a difference. Now I want to at least get her e1 instead of going all out on Sunday
Her E1 would have less impact if I buffed up with Tingyun and used Aven's ult, but that'd kinda ruin my opening on the 2nd wave for this 1 cycle. But yeah E1 Robin is really strong, honestly the best investment you can make imo.
JY 1 cycle 😳 ⁉️
7:30 DOT Heng
I'm just using it for the substats.
My e0s0 jingyuan without aventurine and robin could never😭
Robin is the key😂
That aventurine build is awesome! do you recomend it or its just for showcase?
@@portesmelo it’s my usual set yeah. I did farm a broken keel set for him but I didn’t notice a difference since it balances out between his personal damage being boosted or slightly lower personal damage but boosting the main carry.
If you want max shields, use the set for that but I have no trouble with Pioneer at all from MOC to DU6.
@@Tylting its not a problem being below 134 speed? While I was building mine I was very mindfull about that but I was (and still am) at the beginning of the game, been playng for about 5 months now.
ps: my eventurine is with purity palace but with salsotto
134 SPD is kinda hard to get while balancing his DEF and Crit stats, and I haven't had any scenario where I was like "man, if only I had 134 SPD on Aventurine" at all.
@@Tylting got it, ty so much
First, it's his best set for sub DPS role, sec, the way he can easily fix his shields make it unnecessary to raise his spd
I dont have Aventurine. Who can i use instead
Gallagher, since he uses QPQ the best for Robin and has a good amount of actions to proc Robin's Concerto. But he is worse at sustaining than Aventurine, especially for Robin who can't use Besotted to heal herself. Otherwise you can use any sustain but you will clear slower.
Pulling for huohuo recently really saved my ass from kafka cc😭
She just invalidates all debuffs. She's slightly worse than Aventurine at sustaining, but I've never had any problems surviving with her.
@@Tylting it's not 'just' all debuffs when she's the only one that can do it simultaneously in her path
@@luqie_ lynx and lingsha?
@@sorashizen5130 it's not as efficient as huohuo tho 🤭
Bro how the hell his JY ult deals the same amount of damage as my full stack LL with the same team except Gallagher 😭
I have a good amount of vertical investment, but always be mindful on when you're buffing Jing Yuan since LL is so particular.
Can I just delete my e1s2 welt for e0s0 huo huo 😢
Hi!!
Hello!
Why is DHIL in 4pc Prisoner??? And is still this good? Mine is on 4pc musketeer with 72/210 ratio and yours is still better.
I'm just using Prisoner because of the substats. Aim for 2pc/2pc ATK% sets, 2pc ATK% and 2pc Wastelander, or 4pc Wastelander.
Can you test in aventurine side Jy with Hanabi Tingyun and Huo ? Or this is a bad team for this side
It's a good team, just weaker and slower due to no Robin, and Huohuo can't trigger the Turbulence as well as Aventurine. You'll probably clear in 3-4 cycles and I may showcase it in a later video.
@@Tylting I will accept the video so I can do a good research
Thank you for always responding and helping me!!!
@@TyltingI clear the second part with Jing Yuan's team consisting of Sparkle, Tingyun, and Huohuo and can attest to him clearing it in 4 cycle. Probably can do 3 if I'm more careful about the LL not entering the gamble phase, but it's already good enough for me 😂
Between Sparkle Lc and Robin Lc which one should i pull? Still waiting for Aventurine LC :(
Sparkle LC gives 10 CR and 20 CD to party plus more CD for her, it'll make her so broken
Support LCs are never really worth it. Either the dps sig LC or support eidolons are better. For example, robin e1 is far far better than s1
@@michaelharis9962 except that eidolons are more expensive than LC, considering you're dealing with a 5050, also sparkle LC is more worth than her E1 so it's not always the case, robin LC allows to use her ult easier, which the most important thing of her kit
@@sorashizen5130 yea but harmony has a variety of good non-banner cones. Stuff like dance3 and motp give stats more valuable than pure stat boosts from 5* cones so people almost always end up using them over limited ones. Not only that, most limited harmony cones are really niche. It'd be nice if sparkle come worked on other harmonies but it only functions properly on her. All this to say, dps cones are still the way to go at the end of the day
If you use Sparkle a lot, I'd go for hers since her LC has a lot more value than Robin's (Robin has an easy substitute with Bronya's LC, while no other Harmony LC has the Crit stats of Sparkle's). However, if you happen to have a lot of copies of DDD or have Bronya's LC on Sparkle, then I'd probably save unless missing Crits is a major problem.
dhil is worth even I don't have/don't want sparkle? 😭
Use Hanya, she's like roughly half a cycle/1 cycle worse than Sparkle on average. Or just use a DDD Tingyun with Ruan Mei.
The captions are pretty misleading considering how premium your supports are. Still a good run though.
I pointed out the excess damage because my supports are more invested, so if you have lower investment than me you can still probably clear the same but take slighly more time + my Dan Heng is using Under The Blue Sky instead of Fall on the Aeon.
I was so scared to use JY against Kafka due to her lighting resist, but then I killed her much faster than puppets. I'm so glad that they finally stopped making MoC fo firefly only. Unfortunately special treatment for fireflop will return soon. That's so annoying tbh. If she is that strong why she needs a boss tailored to her in 4 MoCs??
Even with my E1S1 Robin, Kafka's Lightning RES wasn't that bad and it'd still be a really easy 1-2 cycle I'd wager.
Honestly my main issue with the puppets being here for 2 months was that you're more or less forced to use Gallagher, which I don't mind, but it gets repetitive after a while.