The story of mathematical proof - with John Stillwell

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  • Опубликовано: 18 сен 2024

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  • @TheRoyalInstitution
    @TheRoyalInstitution  Год назад +11

    If you liked this video, check out our mathematics playlist here: ruclips.net/p/PLbnrZHfNEDZyDfeVsNBMNDUu-o5j9_QMb
    Edited to say - we hear you (no pun intended) and acknowledge your complaints about the problems we've been having with our sound. We do now have a full AV team in place, but we're still working through the backlog of videos from when this was an issue. Despite our fancy name, we're an independent charity and don't receive any government funding, so we're often working with a tiny team and a shoestring budget to bring you these incredible lecturers. We promise that we are working very hard to fix the sound issues and you'll hear the difference soon.

    • @royalvikash125
      @royalvikash125 Год назад

      Okay

    • @rogermoore27
      @rogermoore27 Год назад +2

      Just a whisper....see if the mics or sound can be improved. The sound has to be easy on the ears especially if the video is a long video 👂👀🙉

    • @savage22bolt32
      @savage22bolt32 Год назад +1

      I don't like to complain, but I wish you could get the audio back to the quality of your older videos. This was brutal on my ears.

    • @nHans
      @nHans Год назад +1

      Did you guys upload the Q&A video? If so, would you please provide the link? (As yet, there isn't one in the description.)
      Also, you might want to 'pin' your own comments, so they'll always be at the top.

    • @TheRoyalInstitution
      @TheRoyalInstitution  Год назад +1

      @@nHans Here's the Q&A - ruclips.net/video/aPyWM5cQkeQ/видео.html - now added to the description too

  • @Streetsy
    @Streetsy Год назад +22

    For someone who never got access to this level of math education, I am really enjoying this kind of video presentation. Thank you to everyone involved.

  • @SEAWORRIER
    @SEAWORRIER Год назад +35

    Please give your guest speakers a guide on how to record better audio or provide them with the resources to do so. The content of this talk is good but the audio quality is like nails on a blackboard.

  • @phitsf5475
    @phitsf5475 Год назад +11

    After having studied calculus for the sake of applying it to problems i.e. with very little attention paid to much pure maths involving proofs; This video has answered lots of questions I didn't know I had.

    • @davidwright8432
      @davidwright8432 Год назад

      ... your 'unknown unknowns' as it were.

    • @alistaircrookes5825
      @alistaircrookes5825 Месяц назад

      It is gratifying to know that it took hundreds of years to work out the kinks in calculus and set it in an acceptable state after it was discovered, and that the counter intuitive and more impenetrable aspects of mathematics were an issue to the people discovering and developing it. Often you are learning the modern version of something that has been cleaned up and made rigorous but that wasn’t how the subject was discovered at all. Early algebra wasn’t all written with strange symbols like x and y, rather it was motivated with geometrical pictures. Fourier didn’t have an exercise in a book to prove something, he had to work out many of his discoveries from examples.

  • @dwdei8815
    @dwdei8815 Год назад +5

    Thank you! For years I've never rid myself of never having been able to understand why dx was sometimes 1 and sometimes 0. I thought it was me inventing a confusion out of nothing and accepting that I simply didn't have a maths brain.
    My sticking plaster solution was that sometimes the dx is a "grammar" thing, reminding me that the equation is in reference to a changing x, and sometimes it is a measurement inside the equation which tends to zero and might as well count as zero.
    A fascinating talk, and what a terrific subject!

  • @Maplecook
    @Maplecook Год назад +8

    I would have been able to understand high school math, if my teacher had used visuals like this. For a kid, the pictures are very helpful, even if they seem superfluous to seasoned math people.

  • @andycordy5190
    @andycordy5190 Год назад +10

    Algebra was a nonsense to me at school. I liked geometry because I was a visually oriented person although I didn't know it then. Nobody showed me that x squared was actually a square I could draw and understand.😕 I shut down and the idea that mathematics had a connectedness was never apparent to me, I made do without it.

    • @PetraKann
      @PetraKann Год назад

      Mathematics is not a discipline of Science but rather a field in the Arts.

  • @nHans
    @nHans Год назад +3

    I know that this lecture was about mathematical proofs and not practical applications of mathematics. Still, I gotta defend Boole-his eponymous logic (or algebra) is the foundation for digital electronics, digital control systems, computer science and all modern digital computers.

  • @jarrodanderson2124
    @jarrodanderson2124 6 месяцев назад +2

    Stillwells math history book is incredible and I love it. ❤

  • @tmann986
    @tmann986 Год назад +4

    I have recently been looking for someone to explain the history or story of proofs! What a coincidence!

  • @JianYZhong
    @JianYZhong Год назад +3

    Thanks for this illuminating presentation. It helps me understand Godel’s incompleteness theorem, I think. Must check out the Q&A!

  • @BlitzHitz
    @BlitzHitz Год назад +3

    Thank you for uploading this.

  • @YunocTV
    @YunocTV 2 месяца назад

    What a great video! I really enjoyed it. Very well presented by John Stillwell.

  • @fraiopatll633
    @fraiopatll633 Год назад +4

    Computation in mathematics, normally understood, comes at the feet of mathematical results or theorems. But where do the very ideas expressed by the theorems come from? That's where and how math is created. Simply said, deep mathematical ideas are the product of human creativity. Theorems, as such, confirm the truth of the deep mathematical ideas so created, or discovered, as some would say. The creative process leading to mathematical insights are often haphazard, messy, subconscious, and even fortuitous and unexpected. The initial formulation of the deep mathematical discoveries are usually inchoate, incomplete and even possibly wrong. After several attempts to prove the initial formulations fail, new formulations are devised and renewed attempts to prove them are exercised, until eventually a final formulation is proved (in the proper sense of the word), at which point in time, the final formulation attains the status of theorem, which means a proven proposition (or provable, as some would say).
    It seems to me that at every level of mathematical instruction from elementary school all the way to college levels, there is very little effort put into teaching the students to exercise their creativity so as to produce mathematical results and insights. Theorems and their proofs are absolutely important and indispensable, and every student of mathematics must acquire a high degree of proficiency in proofs. But, to make progress in mathematics, students of mathematics need to be taught to become creative in discovering or producing mathematical results.

    • @salemsaberhagan
      @salemsaberhagan Год назад

      Yeah & it's such a deep level of intuition that people often attribute it to non-human or paranormal forces. The mathematician Ramanujan for example said that his Goddess sent him his theorem proofs in dreams.

  • @HebaruSan
    @HebaruSan Год назад +3

    Errors occur in proofs in practice, likely in rough proportion to how often bugs occur in software. But usually nobody checks closely enough.

  • @JavierBonnemaison
    @JavierBonnemaison Год назад +2

    Great teacher.

  • @johnfitzgerald8879
    @johnfitzgerald8879 Год назад +1

    Yes, these are really great, first time and for review. I'd seen the first proof of Pythagorean's Theorem but not the second. It is great to have a tie in between geometry and algebra. The video is packed with extensions to the handful of examples I've picked up. Thank you

  • @PlayNowWorkLater
    @PlayNowWorkLater 5 месяцев назад

    Very interesting and well presented. The significance of the square root of two in Pythagorean theorem really popped for me. Thank you for allowing my mind to expand just a little bit more today. Good stuff!!

  • @JavierBonillaC
    @JavierBonillaC Год назад

    This is the most exciting video I have come across in a few. Yes. I will try to buy the book.

  • @venustus100
    @venustus100 Год назад +3

    Thanks

  • @josephe3697
    @josephe3697 Год назад +8

    Too much echo / reverberation on the sound. Needs some long curtains or drapes to attenuate it.

    • @JL-pc2eh
      @JL-pc2eh Год назад +2

      Or just a headset

  • @bar___
    @bar___ Год назад

    Excellent!

  • @ромаЕ-р5ч
    @ромаЕ-р5ч Год назад +3

    guys - u need audio soft to reduce all that noice - or put it into autotune that will change a sound and keep words)

  • @invisibules
    @invisibules Год назад +1

    The first "proof" at 36' would also "prove" that the rationals aren't countable...

  • @marcvanleeuwen5986
    @marcvanleeuwen5986 8 месяцев назад

    Indeed (36:39) I am worried that you measure theoretic proof of the uncountability of the real numbers does not hold water. While the source of contradiction (assuming an enumeration of the real numbers) is never stated clearly, I suppose it is based on the assumption that if the orignal length of the line was originally strictly greater than 1 (like infinitely long, but one could do with a bit less), then after removing (infinitely many) segments whose summed-up lengths never exceed 1, some segment of positive length must remain (in fact many, and the sum of the lengths of the remaining segments makes up for the difference of original and removed lengths). However that is not true, since one could remove all the _rational_ points, which are countable, and no segment would remain (there would remain an uncountable number of isolated irrational numbers). So a proof must somehow use that the real numbers are unlike the rational numbers, which this proof does not do.

  • @phitsf5475
    @phitsf5475 Год назад +3

    I'm sure the content is amazing but the audio quality from webcam software/zoom/whatever is just the worst. Lockdowns inspired people to make lots of great content, remotely, but unfortunately the vast majority of it is of the quality I just mentioned. I'm unable to count the number of excellent presentations I've seen, not to mention all of the ones I haven't. It's impractical and simply unreasonable to have everyone re-record everything with better hardware and setups, I have hopes someone will make the effort to scrape all the poor quality content and run it all through some AI to clean it up. Unfortunately by the time AI is being used so broadly I will have taken a staunch stance against AI because the better it will get, the more it will scare me.
    Thank you, Royal Institution, for all the content; Good and bad. I think I will start working to transcribe libraries onto stone tablets so generations 20,000 years from now might have some useful material to help rebuild/build-new. There's no point re-inventing the wheel or the standard model of the universe is there?

  • @naveen__1992
    @naveen__1992 Год назад

    Best you tube channel in the world

  • @monadic_monastic69
    @monadic_monastic69 Год назад

    I also like thinking of the incompleteness theorem that Stillwell's referencing as the "no lone genius" result about axiom systems: none of them on their own can produce all facts about mathematics.

  • @salemsaberhagan
    @salemsaberhagan Год назад

    The Greeks also had an issue with zero if I remember correctly. Apparently they had the idea that "nothing" cannot exist, which is something that the Indians didn't agree with. Indians saw Nothingness or the Void as a vessel. It's the future, like an egg. That's why Vedic & Euclidean mathematics developed so differently. Today for example we know from Quantum physics that heat is energy. E=mc². Energy turns into matter, but entropy means that the physical manifestation is always smaller or lesser (in perception) than the source energy pool because they have different densities. 2D vs 3D vs 4D etc.

  • @daveac
    @daveac Год назад

    Well I think I followed that - and the 44 minute lecture took me about 88 minutes to 'sort of' comprehend :-)

  • @gilldanier4129
    @gilldanier4129 Год назад +1

    Energy cannot be created or destroyed. If we really realised the impact of this statement, it would shake everything up. Cannot be created or destroyed INFINITE, it was here, is here, and will always be here. W glibbly call it energy, but what does that mean if we take away that name. It is in everything, absolutely everything, it is sustaining everything, it moves everything, it is in us, it is in our breath. This is why there is no such thing as '1', it is an illusion. The mind created '1' for convenience, because that is how the mind works, it breaks things down into segments, it never sees the whole, because it is in fact 'Finite' The real 'PROOF' is in our Breath, because without it we are no more. When we are on our last breath, all the theory's and equations in the world will not be able to help.

  • @HughChing
    @HughChing Год назад

    I had never missed a geometry problem in school and never had to take finals. The last problem I solved was Steiner-Lehman Theorem. But today, I realize that something is completely wrong, for which I invent The Obviousness Theory of Proof based on the 16 Methods of Reason, which says that Obviousness is different for different way of reason.

  • @michaelaristidou2605
    @michaelaristidou2605 Год назад +5

    The Greeks did not develop algebra? And all of Diophantus work what was it? Statistics? 😆

    • @14Anon2
      @14Anon2 7 дней назад +1

      The Greeks were one of the first, along with the Egyptians. The Chinese, Indians and some Islamic thinkers certainly independently discovered aspects of algebra and furthered our understanding of it and that cannot be taken away from them but likewise, there seems to be an effort to rewrite the history of it to remove the Western origins of algebra.

  • @longcastle4863
    @longcastle4863 Год назад +55

    1.34 million subscribers and they can't give us subscribers audio that doesn't assault the ears

    • @fdarchives_
      @fdarchives_ Год назад +10

      ive heard way worse audio quality during some of the best lectures in science.

    • @STR82DVD
      @STR82DVD Год назад +16

      Petty given the content.

    • @JL-pc2eh
      @JL-pc2eh Год назад +5

      @Mushie_Man I think it is terible too. My phone has a much better microphone. A headset is pretty cheap and with all that noise and the camera quality at the start it is embarassing. That looked and sounds like a video call 15 years ago.

    • @iteerrex8166
      @iteerrex8166 Год назад +1

      Don’t complain til you listen to an iPad. This thing 4 times the size of a phone, has 1/4 the volume of a phone. Maybe they did this to sell their AirPods.

    • @clark_kent-vz4mw
      @clark_kent-vz4mw Год назад +4

      Free knowledge is great. The budget might not be CNN, but the content by far does it up for the audio.
      I was so immersed, i didn't even notice.

  • @epictetus__
    @epictetus__ 6 месяцев назад

    Bookmark 5:50

  • @blaket5346
    @blaket5346 11 месяцев назад

    VSauce Michael in 40 years?

  • @rickprice7919
    @rickprice7919 Год назад

    Two high school girls have proven the Pythagorean theorem by a new method evolving series that is not based on itself.

  • @stevenjewell460
    @stevenjewell460 9 месяцев назад

    Poor audio for such an interesting subject. It' s distraction to learners. Please revise this video.

  • @toddtrimble2555
    @toddtrimble2555 Год назад

    A beautiful and illuminating presentation. I should direct my students here. (Added: I do think the names Davis, Robinson, and Putnam should have been added to Matiyasevich.)

  • @bambizulu5407
    @bambizulu5407 Год назад +5

    Since 2020 I've found it difficult to watch this channel, Covid is over, go back to the way it used to be😢

    • @IsYitzach
      @IsYitzach Год назад +3

      They have. About half are like this and the other half are in person.

  • @lexrex1
    @lexrex1 Год назад

    Cant watch it because the sound is not that great. Please record it again with better sounds quality. :)

  • @shriyad2003
    @shriyad2003 Год назад +6

    Sound quality sucks..🙂

    • @Safetytrousers
      @Safetytrousers Год назад +2

      So what? The content is what is important and I understood everything he said.

    • @savage22bolt32
      @savage22bolt32 Год назад +1

      @@Safetytrousers are you saying quality is not important?

    • @Safetytrousers
      @Safetytrousers Год назад +1

      @@savage22bolt32 Having the best sound quality is not as important as what is being said. Better sound quality would be nice, but it is not essential.

  • @Fuhaifengbadminton
    @Fuhaifengbadminton Год назад +9

    come on guys, sound... quality sucks bro

    • @Safetytrousers
      @Safetytrousers Год назад +2

      So what? The content is what is important and I understood everything he said.

    • @SEAWORRIER
      @SEAWORRIER Год назад +1

      ​@@Safetytrousers Yeah, but if the audio annoys or irritates someone enough then someone else may not want to listen to the content regardless of its quality.

    • @Safetytrousers
      @Safetytrousers Год назад +1

      @@SEAWORRIER By that token any number of things may annoy someone into not wanting to watch something.

    • @SEAWORRIER
      @SEAWORRIER Год назад +1

      @@Safetytrousers True. But some things may not be fixable as technical matter (e.g. talk content that someone would object to, prejudicial sentiments from a potential viewer, talk content being too complex for a general audience, etc. ). Other things are a technical matter and can be made at least better or more tolerable, like recording quality.
      The content is important, but not to the exclusion of everything else, otherwise no one would ever bother improving the presentation of said content. Good production serves the delivery of good content, like the substance of this talk.

    • @godfreypigott
      @godfreypigott Год назад +1

      @@SEAWORRIER The irony of someone who has a 3 minute video of him unwrapping a playstation complaining about quality.

  • @aansoongbae
    @aansoongbae Год назад

    👏👏👏💚💚💚🌷🌷🌷

  • @dallasajlee
    @dallasajlee Год назад +1

    What I don’t understand is.. X = 3…… Wrong….. It says x2 which means X=2 the math will prove it. 25 + 5x + 5x =35 that means X2 = 2 + 2 = 4. So 35 + 4 = 39.. what that other craps means is over my head 😂

    • @miguelarribas9990
      @miguelarribas9990 Год назад +3

      The original equation to be solved is x*x + 10*x = 39. If you plug in there x = 2, you get 2*2 + 2*10 = 24. So x is not 2. Plug in x = 3 and you get the right answer.
      Why do you write "It says x2 which means X=2"?

    • @dallasajlee
      @dallasajlee Год назад

      Yep your still wrong my numbers are right

  • @gregoryfenn1462
    @gregoryfenn1462 Год назад

    Nasty sound quality... can't it be de-noised? Cool talk tho

  • @blountout6285
    @blountout6285 Год назад +1

    cya 😪

  • @plinketharry7469
    @plinketharry7469 Год назад +2

    Impossible to listen to man, come on :(

  • @colinmannutube
    @colinmannutube Год назад +1

    Acoustics are terrible

  • @Dr_LK
    @Dr_LK Год назад +2

    Audio please... as per the rest of the comments. RI are you incompetent?