What 8 Hours of Work a Day Looks Like as an Indie Game Developer
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"Waiting for things to render counts as work right?"
That's how I see it :D
It's been 2 months Benjamin, how long will this new video take to render???
@@DommoDommo you didn’t have to do him like that
@@DommoDommo Lol. I saw this comment coming when I made the original XD. I knowingly walked right into it.
I don't have an eta on my next video. Sorry about that.
Hopefully soon.
@@ottersaurus Hahaha it's fine. I deserved it.
the two legends of godot!
When you said I normally only work like 2 hours a day, that washed away all of my procrastinating ass' guilt. Also, I appreciate how actively you take care of yourself. Good to see that especially in a pandemic
Great video thanks.
“Pandemic”
this is what i actually realized in college while reading Deep Work. In an 8 hour work that you would do only 2 or 4 hours of it is the only time where youre making actual focused work, usually. there will be instances that you can work in a really focused and meaningful way past that, but its rare, and people who can do it regularly more than 4 hours are just special. so i guess its a good reminder that if you feel like youre just slogging after doing concentrated work for at least 2hrs or 4, most times what youre doing above that is just busywork, in the sense that you have already expended your focus juice.
"Got pretty tired, so I'm going to go to the gym" - 🐐
Shit I wish I could go to a gym right now
Tbf there's mental exhaustion and physical exhaustion. Working out is a great way to cope with mental exhaustion :)
The most relatable part of the video.
This man soaks beans, he's already more productive than me
Depending on your cooking strategy and the beans
Whenever I get some free time, I end up wanting to draw something that looks nice and implement it into something interactive. I suck at drawing, and my coding isn't good either, so I end up giving up after a few hours. But somehow I keep finding channels like yours, with people that create awesome things and I keep trying again. Although I never really get anything done, your channel motivates me to keep going back to it as a hobby until one day I make something interesting and fuctional.
If it makes you feel better you are not alone doing this
This comment made my day.
Im better at art and i absolutely suck a coding and i was about to give up. But seeing there are people just like has motivated me. I WILL FINISH WHAT I STARTED!!!!!!!!
You go dude, you go!
Keep at it my guy, effort you put in you will get out
Remember this the next time you feel like giving up. "You did not fail, you simply found a way it did not work.". With that mindset, you can keep trying until it works. With Game Development, that's all this is. Trying until you succeed. You can do it, I believe in you.
Maybe one day I'll motivate myself to pursue indie game development. Until then, I watch another Miziziziz video.
Heh, that sounds like you need incredible resolve to start playing a game :D
Must be a big decision to start playing a game lmao.
@@PSIBoredomOmega you mean making
For real though (╥﹏╥)
@@willuigi64 lmao, thanks for the kind words, really made me happy reading this.
8:36 - 19th century videogames were FIRE!
good ol' hoop rolling was my favorite video game
19th century lmao. I don't think there were many video games in the 1800's.
Nice pic
You mean 20th century.
@@GreedAndSelfishness the publishing house is named ''19th Century''
I'm glad you promoted the act of walking. I walk an hour every day as well. We live sedentary life styles that we're not meant for. Start every day with a long walk, listening to a podcast, lecture or audio book.
I've recently started doing this the last month and seen lots of benefits to my health. I tend to split my walks to 2 or 3 a day tho
There was a recent study that showed that not having any interruptions while walking (e.g. podcasts etc) boosted your creative thinking, meaning that that could be a great time to come up with more interesting mechanics and ideas.
I like your realistic attitude towards indie dev. You see all these other youtuber's working 25 hours a day, 8 days a week on their games and it really gives off an unhealthy expectation as to how you should manage your time. The little things you mentioned such as being on zoom with family, getting carried away talking with friends shows the correct, healthy attitude that all aspiring devs should aim for. Glad you're seeing the success you are.
* makes 6 burgers *
-"That was pretty filling"
Hey we are not alone here
Video title: What 8 hours of work a day looks like as an indie game developer
Video: Everything else i did besides gamedev
Yeah didnt show the process at all.
@@GreedAndSelfishness Every thing he does is part of the life of an indie game developer, sure he didnt show what we was doing but that's not the topic.
@@Alexarr Yeah but big part of game develope's day is...developing a game. And thats actually the topic.
@@GreedAndSelfishness he made a jam game, a resident evil clone and worked wrought flesh
@@sechmascm ...Yes? But the key word is process. I KNOW he did do some developing but he didnt show any of the details.
i’m obsessed with your channel dude! notifs always one
Your course taught me how to model and texture retro graphics inside blender, thank you sm.
- A complete beginner
Fun fact, there is a html variant for VR websites. something like 6-7 years ago there was a vr app called janus vr, they created their own markup language called janusXR. Haven't seen anything new in a while about it, but it still exists as far as I'm aware
There’s also A-frame which is basically the same idea
That was a good video, I enjoyed it.
You've really opened my eyes. No more 8 hours a day after after my day job, more sleep, daily walks and visiting the Gym.
you and Louis Rossman have been the better influences in my own self-work. I really need these readjustments, because I either try to overdo it and get nothing done, or do nothing and get nothing done.
I like the direction this video is going. About to devote six months of time away from work on a big project and I need some reference on where I go before I really hurt my body doing what I love.
8 Hour workday video was soo fascinating, i was hooked the whole time.
going to use this experiement of yours to adjust my work-days. thank you!
Title says 8 hours but we only got 21 minutes. Smh 😤😤😤
"When you spend two hours editing video, and you only manage to get a minute done, you know it's gonna be a slog...This video better get a million views"
As a video editor myself...I felt that in my bones.
The thing I miss most after having to move back in with family is having the freedom and privacy to work in this sort of way. I can't just wake up and get straight to work on a day I feel like doing that. I have to fit my work time, eating schedule, etc around my family's. No longer having the flexibility that I used to makes it very hard to stay motivated.
If you have that freedom, don't waste it. Look after yourself, keep yourself busy without wearing yourself out, and get your game made while it's the best time to do it. Don't do what I did and put it off until you have to do it on hard mode.
If you're into books containing game development war stories, I thoroughly recommend "Japansoft: An Oral History". An excellent read that gives a rare insight into the usually opaque Japanese game industry.
ngl man these videos are super inspiring. This is what getting the bag actually looks like, just a normal fucking person doing what they like and cranking a product out at the end of the day. No fake hustle, no #grindculture to mask a lack of direction. Just getting shit done and enjoying yourself along the way.
Watching casually explained, love that guy.
Thank you for the 2 hours a day comment, anytime I don’t hit 4 or 5 hours a day I end up beating myself up over it
How do you get your Bill Murray to look so young for your videos?
Software dev comments were too relatable. Im inspired
great video ! cool to see your working days :D and yah rendering videos counts as work xD
You're a really down to earth dude. Love watching your vids!
Great video, love the conclusion. I totally agree with the goal being to enjoy what you do without crunching.
It's midnight and I have about 6 hours of sleep left, but a miziziziz video is more important than a stable and healthy sleep schechule (not that I had one to begin with)
I've always been terrified of going the entrepreneurial route because of the perceived amount of work needed just to survive. It's inspiring to see that you can actually make it with a very healthy work/life balance.
he's got many years of building a community and building up a healthy base and passive income with the udemy courses being the main income, he has a video showing how he makes income. There IS a lot of work in the entrepreneurial route if you are actually going to survive
If the burger was good, share the burger recipe!
Just kill a cow. And put some vege on it.
I know this is a totally new style of video for you. I think it turned out really well. I hope to maybe see something similar in the distant future.
Thanks for making this video! It was really inspiring and made me really stop and think about what the right mindset behind 'being productive' is.
Shout-out to you for being a fellow vegan game dev
ZOYBOYZZZ
Me too! I didn't know this was a thing!
Yeah! Really cool to see :)
mad respect
There are dozens of us!
He literally has the whole gym to himself everytime. Thanks Corona
Awesome vid. Glad to see a non-hustle perspective on game dev and entrepreneurship. The food look good, too.
I'm looking forward to the 10 hour cut of just eating vegan burgers.
Dropping another comment to say thanks. I know the intention wasn’t for it to become a #motivator video, but for where I’m at and looking to be as an indie comics artist, this was very inspiring.
Interesting idea to do 8 hours a day. I've recently found that style of working does suit me quite well.
I more say by 8pm as long as I've got stuff done in the day, I'm fine to "clock out" at that time
It might be a good idea to make another video just about books you’d recommend.
Hey, Audacity is good but it's very slow to work with. I would recommend you check out Reaper for audio recording/editing, because it's lightweight, fast, customizable and basically free.
Anyway great vid!
I’m just glad this shows a new 4 game dev video is coming
one thing i never considered until now is that 8 hours of work a day only leaves you with 8(probably 6) hours of free time in the rest of you day. Assuming you also sleep for ~8 hours.
Worse with school. I have school for 7 hours(there is a 1 hour break, so 6 hours), then I have to sleep 9 hours, and then study like 3-4 hours a day near exams. Nor necessarily worse as school is a bit more fun, but given I'm only 14, seemsike I should have more free time on my hands
Keep up the great work, absolutely legendary
I'm sooo happy you can live that 2h/day life ♥
Self care and especially personal time are what we live for, and you still can achieve sooo much while working less
Lost Relic Games would love this gritty realistic dev log. Not a radish garden in sight either!
your video made to stop hustling myself, i was thinking about it lately, thanks, dude
My mans got an instant pot, gotta approve of that
forever the best. love that shared what you do without perpetuating hustle culture.
1996 VR manual is nuts! Your overall books selection is cool. More!
Really cool video, i like how you do your routine and im also getting slowly into indie game dev. Learning 3d modelling now.
I haven't played Rought Flesh yet but it looks really good! I need to play it when i will be able to.
The intro sequence with the space capsule u made looks great and fits withe the style of the game. I do have an idea about it tho - when the camera zooms on the planet it would be cool to see the zoom go on longer - from the whole planet being in view to going in closer over cloud level, then over a continent, and then over the area where it lands. Bcs the planet is so big it would take a while to get there at that speed.
Great work man!
The VR HTML thing - that was totally a thing. It was called VRML. I remember learning about it in the late 90s/early oughts at a computer camp, even then it seemed mostly limited to academic and experimental use but the idea of loading a web page and getting immersed in a 3D environment was pretty incredible. I was much more interested in MUDs and whatnot than VRML - they had so much more utility and much richer content than clunky 3D.
Cool. Good experiment, can definitely see the five hours for five days straight being a workable balance. For building gaming and game design eBook collections I definitely recommend HumbleBundle. Nice food selections, congrats on healthy living and exercise. We just picked up a combination toaster oven and air fryer, great for bringing life back to day old sweet potato fries.
wow 2 whole hours? One day I'll be able to concentrate that long
Awesome vid bro, watched it while I did my homework and it kept me occupied. So exited for the next devlog I will definitely be one of the first to purchase
This is extremely encouraging!
Miz dripping on us with that necklace
Successful entrepreneur I see ಡ ͜ ʖ ಡ
What a flex of a beginning. Keep up the good work!
Hey bud, Andrew Huberman (Neuroscientist) talks about strategies backed by his research and data that suggest 90 minutes of pure work/focus is an ideal amount of time (15-30 min ramp up followed by 60 min pure focus and then 15-30 min cool down). He suggests working optimally people might be able to accomplish these 90 min sessions twice a day, usually one time in the morning and then again in the late afternoon/evening. Agree with you, the whole crunch time thing is rediculous and probably unproducitve ultimately. I think 3-4 hours of work a day is realistically accomplishable, even your 5-6 might be a stretch!
Hey nephew. I like the vegan cooking show and book reviews interspersed with work. very inspiring. I was wondering if I should push myself running on fumes and coffee. I'm thinking of starting a lawn care business.
This was super insightful. I hope one day my work pays off so that game making can sustain me with out burn out!
believe it or not you actually gave me energy to clean up my desktop today ahahah very good video eheh
This video has a really good message. Thank you!
RE: The VR HTML thing you mentioned. VRML was used as a 3D object format for some old metaverse/social apps. There's a more modern framework that's similar called A-Frame that makes it super easy to make 3D/VR scenes on the web :)
There's something very comforting about this video 💞
That red demon on the first couple pages you opened of your D&D book is the cover of Gygax’s first run of “Advanced D&D”, which thanks to a mate in the UK I’m a proud owner of
In my country this is what we call: " Vivendo o sonho, parcero"
yeah. i usually do about an hour of programming and even less time doing other stuff like level design or music or graphics. sometimes 2 to 3 hours of programming if i get super into it (or more likely get stuck on one bug for a long time). thanks for making me feel better about it lol
Omggg I love your windows task bar it’s so retro and omg when it was snowing Jodi the vibes just felt so nice lol
And HOLY COW U EAT SO HEALTHY WOWOWOWOOWW
and where does he live the area seems so niceeeeee (other than the construction LOL)
19:39
“I don’t understand why companies need crunch” TRUUUUU
YESS
So hyped for next four devs jam!
Interesting video, apparently a 4 day work week is meant to be more productive. And crunch is necesary for large companies because of poor planning and the bureaucracy and producers telling experts how to do their job. That aside, nice video! Very good developer fuel! Too many independants lash themselves becuase they are not commiting seppuku for their work.
This was an excellent video man. Keep it up, seriously.
Loved watching this, thanks for sharing your week with us!
Yo dude, I like your book collection. A lot of those books were things I've read or would typically read.
You need to make one where we go with you for the whole day! Love this video btw!
Beautifull snow and that view. I could just work and look at snow eating pizza.
Title screen look so good I love 3D title screens
6:21
"apologies for bad audio"
:)
"because i don't care"
:(
You are really talented, I hope you get a small team one day.
I bought his two courses on Udemy! They're great! Hoping to see some more courses ❤️
Sorry for the white collar wageslave lingo but even "modern" software development and project management practices such as agile/kanban/scrum tend to attribute around 70% efficiency for a given work day. Of course they refrain from associating actual work hours with story points but the primary resource put into a work item is time, so this "efficiency" ultimately boils down to how much of a given period of time is spent doing "real work", which amounts to around 5-6 hours for an 8-hour work day. With all those arbitrary stuff that goes into estimating story points, this 70% ratio works surprisingly well.
So, yeah, if you spend 8 hours a day working on something you consider to be a job or task, you'll most likely have done 6 hours of "valuable" work.
02:35 “why do I live here” lmao, love this channel
It's cool to get the confirmation that other folks out there aren't really ever working 8h on an 8h work day. I just can't do that, I end up working 5h on a good day, and mostly 2-3 hours (of actual work) on average.
I am probably not first but damn this is early for me,
Haven't even watched the video yet. Just witnessed the notification to seconds ago
This is the best video I've ever watched. Speaking facts and focusing on the reality of things.
As a fellow dev, I can confirm that this is pretty accurate.
"I don't have a million bucks but who cares" - this made me re-evaluate a lot.
Thanks a tonne! Greetings from Kenya 👋
The start of the video is so on point 😂😂 also hey vegan burger! Yum! I am also trying to be more plant based, seems like you are living my dream
There was a comment of me earlier and I deleted it. The main gist out of it was: Great Video and so much truth!
Thank you for the "2h a day" comment. I mean, I know it must be an exaggeration that just isn't sustainable (unless you're a hotshot programmer with lucrative side jobs or sth), but it helped to hear that nonetheless. Unless you meant it "on top of a day job", in which case imma go back to feeling bad XD Or sth.
that construction... I get triggered by drill sounds, can't imagine how you're able to work there
I love this. Good job!
Thanks for breaking dogmas really helpful
The 8 hour work day was a compromise between factory owners and unionized workers, who wanted to push it down even more. It divided the day into even thirds, which was useful for people who worked in one place and were within walking distance of home. We now exist in a modernized economy where the 8 hour chunk of work is no longer a necessity for a lot of industries (like software and games). Productivity has skyrocketed thanks to technological advances and the erosion of workers rights, but wages haven't kept up. So yeah, 5 or 6 hours a day when you want definitely seems like more than enough. Don't let dead textile manufacturers decide your work life^^
Nice Windows XP desktop. What Linux distro is that? Also, nice video
I saw john romero at a games convention. He sold me a signed copy of masters of doom and a poster. Also told me to try CoronaSDK(now called Solaris), but that was in 2017.
You saying it took 2 hours to edit 1 minute of footage makes me feel a lot better.
finally a video that is longer than 20 seconds
What skin do you use to make your UI look like Luna (Windows XP)?
Do you use Windows or Linux?