Trae Young Best Fit For Lakers?, Darvin Ham Decision, Team's Roster Build
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- Опубликовано: 2 май 2024
- The Lakers are expected to move on from Darvin Ham but when is that decision coming? Plus is Trae Young really the best fit for the Lakers? We discuss the roster build, the Playoffs and more with Trevor Lane and Sean Davis...
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Please, no Trae Young.
Y'all crazy that 25 and 10 keeps ad and lebron fresh all year, y'all Lakers fans at one point said you would take Joakim Noah over Dwight Howard in 2020 y'all can be quiet sometimes lol
Your probably one of those that thinks Reaves should be untouchable
@@bori1986 you’re probably one of those that defended Darvin after last year cause he made it to the western conference finals and now acting like you’ve always said he should be fired. So what’s your point?
Don’t get trade just get two way players and sign 2 bigs to play with Ad big like Andre Drummond and Dwight
@@asapmimic1289 hell no I cried when we hired him the same tears I cried when we traded for Westbrook
5’9 guy who plays no defense is exactly what we need
I mean we also have AD and Vanderbilt. put Trae out there with A, Vando and Max Christie that should be good enough to cover for his deficiencies.
I like how you're focused on the downside not the fact that a high level facilitator and shot creator would be an improvement on the team. Like the other comment states put a defender next to him at the 2 (hopefully Christie is ready or a KCP type) and vando with AD should be enough to cover on defense
@@cjvaye99 agreed
@@cjvaye99 dude nuggets will switch on him so easily , you need a two way
Vando and Max would probably be in the trade for Trae. Dlo is the same player as Trae at 1/2 the cost.
Trae is not enough. He's lethal from deep, but he's 6' on a good day (horrible vs tall teams like Denver), and can't solve our perimeter defense issues. 3&D is what we need.
We been needing 3&D players for 4yrs straight… is the front office really capable of building a proper team that are legitimate title contenders? I Doubt it… Trae young is not a good option but what 3&D players are available for trade or Free Agency?
@@justoo4425 good point
@@jamesrichardson4663 Seems like we’re always in this position of needing good consistent 3&D players & instead we go out & get specialist thats either good defensively but has no offensive game or we get these scorers who for some reason leave their scoring abilities with their previous team & play no defense & wonder why we can’t get back to the finals we really missing KCP & Kuz forsure
@@justoo4425 ikr I wouldn’t mind trying to bring kuzma back
Lakers needs bigs
today is my 24th birthday (kobe), and the greatest gift i could get would be the darvin ham firing news 🙏🏼
Happy Birthday, wish granted lol
Happy Birthday
Well happy birthday then lol
Happy B Day lil bro
WAIT NO I DIDNT WANT PHIL HANDY GONE TOO DAMN IT
Zero defense from Trae
Same from D-Lo and Reaves among others
@@bori1986😂exactly .. atleast Trae won’t put up 0 points
@@bori1986 but at a 3rd of the cost
So we're gonna pretend that Dlo/AR arent street cones? lol
Trae is a better offensive player than Dlo
@@joshellis5587Nope. Traes getting 43 mill. Dlo will likely get about 20 mill if he opts out so its about half
Lost every game but the one where AD had 23 rebounds - some height would be nice
When will they learn 🤷🏽♂️
What if we go for a true center and a good 3 point player that's decent defender just decent would make a world of difference and a defensive pg that can avg 10-15points per game because let's face it that's all we needed sure there close games but again that's all we would have needed a 3point wing that's ok defensive so mpj don't go crazy and 10-15 defensive pg so Murray don't go crazy and since we had dlo go 6point 20point 0pount 16poin a real 10-15 point per Game guy would be more than what dlo is makes sense right
@@Turbolsvda9said it myself but .months ago but YES..correct 👌
That’s was the difference. Rebounding. DEN not about to do that vs MIN
Facts. Brah... i looked at free agent bigs (not a great list).
Would it be CRAZY to throw the kitchen sink at it and get Trae/Capella (i know you would gut the current roster)
edit: would rather get our hands on Lauri Markenan
To me, not signing Ty Lue was a bigger mistake than signing Russ...as bad as that decision was. Establishing and keeping stability is hard when you're rotating coaches every 2 years.
Literally this is Phil Jackson’s fault. Need to get him far away.
Bigger was giving Vogel no defensive players and then firing him for lack of defense. Incidentally he should be the Lakers top priority if the Suns fire him.
We never signed Westbrick
But Clippers just proved that NOBODY can win witn Westbrick, not even Lue
Both were HUGE mistakes
@@vasheedI doubt he would want to come back.
We should have been up 3-2, but Darvin's rotations killed up.
Darvin Ham is a dull coach. I've been saying this from the very beginning...
He gone now lol
Darving Ham: From running through a brick wall to banging our heads against a brick wall.
If you think we have Jamal Murray problems now. Get Trae Young switched on him.
Peace!! LOL! Murray may go for 82 against the Lakers against Ash-Trae!!! 😂 But hey “Don’t Be A Menace In South Central While Driving & Drinking…..Hood”😅 Trae?
And you guys aren’t mentioning young is always top 5 in turnovers each year him and Westbrook were always competing for the most you think lebron wants that
@@Mgsa14 Like the aging Queen doesn't have plenty of TO's himself. 🙄🤣
@@kaferrat Lmao LeBron +/- is still better than your loser idol.
Donavan is the dream but I wouldn’t be mad a Lauri. Dudes so underrated
Lauri is the Jazz's cornerstone young player -- people act like we are just going to waltz in and grab him. It's not the 90's the whole league rules are set up to stop the Lakers from getting whoever we want. We need a credible back up big and to maintain or carve-out a role for Dinwiddie/Vincent. It sucks because if either Lebron or AD get hurt we are effed next year and they are going to play in Paris this summer...sigh. That really smells like the end of an era. Run it back or blow it up are both risky options but better than -- get an big name but overpriced small offensive player....
Lauri is a dream. Not holding my breath for him although he’d obviously be crazy.
@@ShowtimeLakersbaby808 I ain’t reading all that.
I’m happy for you tho.
Or sorry that happened.
@@richardrhodes4701for real tho 😂
The Lakers need more SIZE(height), they need a defensive-minded rebounding center, and they need a few 3&D two-way players that are reliable, physical, and energetic glue guys.
Right they waisting lebron time
Wolves basically the 2020 Lakers - 3 big man, good wing defenders, and a floor general in Conley just like Lakers had Rondo. 2020 Lakers were No.1 defense that year and so is the Wolves this year. They winning the chip!
@@xXFUEGIxX Yep, pretty much.
I mean our point guard can’t play defense now so it’s not like we’re getting rid of Jrue Holliday to get Trae Young
Trae can't play defense, but neither could DLo. At least Trae will make Murray play defense, unlike DLo.
@@michaelcalloway1074 why do Laker Fans now settle for 'at least'????
@@jameschan9634 same reason why Reaves was our starting sg.
@@michaelcalloway1074 facts💯
@@jameschan9634 Trash Lakers have been settling for "at least" since they got rid of everyone when they won the chip in 2020. 😑🤣
We lost of cuz of lack of size and rebounding, who should we get to help us out with these. Yes Trae young 😅
please let's not over react like in 2021. let's just get a competent head coach and another physical enforcer type big for the bench. we are right there with the defending champs it's not like we got blown out every game.
Problem is dlo probably leaving so how do you replace him with no cap space, I don't want trae either I would prefer mitchell
@@ant6441 honestly I think Gabe will be good enough. or have Gabe be the back up and let Bron or Reaves play point guard. I had enough of D'Lo he can leave
Trae? No. Lauri? HELL YES.
He'll nooooooo,Trae is not efficient
We can't talk about efficient after seeing D-Lo these last 2 seasons
@@bori1986 Trae cost double of Dlo salary
Denver been together for over 6 years. But we keep turning over rosters each season. At some point, you gotta stop doing the same stuff and expecting different
Thank you
I've been saying (among other truisms) the same thing for years.
Lebron needs superman,batman and Thanos to win a championship
when uve got LEzesty ramone shames in the buillin then uve got 2 trade 4 every 'star' to help him win titles. your roster wyll be ever changin w/ pos on your team.
@@sebaztionabsolution Oh lawd..."LEzesty ramone".😆🤣
We been telling Trevor the Lakers need to replace Dwight Howard's role for the past 3 years you can't get passed the nuggets if you don't have a big man, stop talking Trae Young that's not who the Lakers need
We could’ve got past them this year without that role, we just couldn’t stop Murray in the last 5 mins of the game. We need a real 2way guard.
Small ball vs Denver is wild!
@@CahluvcaPlease don’t say “wild” when you mean “stupid.”
@@Cahluvca but we were winning most of the games so it’s not that wild if it was working. We lost because our closing 5 wasn’t better than the Nuggets closing 5 in most games.
We got cooked by Murray sir
I don't like giving Coach Ham all the blame. He had to play guys like Reaves, Rui and DLo that really shouldn't be playing starting or playing alot of minutes on the clutch..
Trae Young is better than D Mitch. Neither play great defense but Young is a real point guard that can get the rest of the team involved primarily pick and roll and lobs to AD
Why are y’all so obsessed with Darvin Ham. It’s like that’s all Trevor talks about . Why???
Trae Young doesn't stop Jamal Murray from hitting those 2 game winners, and he certainly doesn't prevent Jokic from averaging a 25 point triple double against the Lakers.
Ham burned his last bridge when started blaming the players for what happened recently
He was probably sick of being the scapegoat and called out the real reason the Lakers are in Cancun…. The players
Idk, the awkwardness of saying out loud "Darvin has an In Season Tournament championship on his resume" and "Doc Rivers blowing 3-1 leads" feels like they could be cousins. 😂
Get all the key individuals in a room to hash out their issues and keep the group together. We need some continuity to get better
Completely agree. I like Dlo most then most fans and I think we should bring him back even, yes he had a goose egg game but he definitely had a better series this time against Denver than last. Showing signs of maturing slowly but surely.
This is one of those scenarios where you ask yourself: Does Trae Young's offense do enough to offset lack of defense. Has killer mentality in the playoffs. Can play with AD. I say YES!
Trae Young has the right attitude for the Lakers.
“I’m tired of people living and dying with every single game we play It's Ludacris ” - Darvin Ham
After his Lost to the Memphis grizzlies his post game message during his 13 game bad stretch which cost the Lakers the season..This was the official moment when I knew the Laker season was over. And darvin was not someone for LA
Getting someone like Lauri and a Caruso type player would be amazing
If LeBron and AD are still the cornerstones, I say continue to develop Jaxson Hayes, who will in the next 2 or 3 years grow to be solid IMO. Focus on signing a big defensive minded center, add a defensive, solid guard. Options will arise. I also think that Delo will end up opting in because I can’t see anybody in their right mind paying him more than his player option. Then, we can look at trades to fill the other needs.
The key is, if you are going to get a guy like Trae Young, you have to boost your defense by getting a 2 guard that can defend.
Derozan is the perfect if for the Lakers, he had a jump no one on the Lakers have.Hes now shooting 3s he's a free agent want to be a Laker,and he can defend a to an extend .
It should not be a question if Ham should be fire dude sell the playoff killing those 8 guys when the bench is loaded
DeRozen stinks in the playoffs. Go younger, not older players.
Wolves basically the 2020 Lakers - 3 big man, good wing defenders, and a floor general in Conley just like Lakers had Rondo. 2020 Lakers were No.1 defense that year and so is the Wolves this year. They winning the chip!
If you get a Trey or a Dejounte and you are not running the ball through them, whats the use?
Trey avg 10 assists and can shoot off ball but I’ll take dejounte
@@tunetv1 Yeah, but the point I'm trying to make is that if you get either of them but still make Bron the primary ball handler, thereby relegating them to catch and shoot players like they did Dlo, then it will be another disaster.
@@officialmail3564thank you. Finally a non casual in the comments
Trevor got a lot of movie references and I love it😂😂🔥
LeBron and JJ mentioned Trae on their podcast and they like him. According to their logic, he will fit.
Hopefully, the Lakers were taking notes on the T-wolves having multiple Bigs to throw at Joker
Pass on Trae especially with that contract.
A new name for the Lakers “no defense Lakers” That’s why AD should ask for trade. AD is the only two way player on the team.
Trevor really the GOAT ! 🐐
pls explain your slurpin of trevor.
Sean on his burner account
people are seriously undervaluing how amazing trae and AD would be, look how lethal the trae and capella pick n roll is lmao.
You guys are overthinking. Trae Young is a generational player
Pure SHOOTER + Genuine BIG thats it 💐
i really like trae young his super confident hes a 25 and 10assist guy
Maybe Lavine?? Maybe Max Christie develops? Learn how to use Woods, he can be like Portis when motivated
Lakers don't need offense, they need young, big, rebounds, and defense. Trae is one of four. And the later 3 is important
perfect trade to fix this mess
Lakers Trade:
*Reaves
*Gabe
*Rui
2 first round picks
Hawks Trade:
Trae Young
To make things interesting if delo opts in. The lakers can include in the trade
Lakers trade:
*D-LO
*JSH
Hawks Trade:
*clint capela or murray
Lakers new starting lineup:
Trae young
Murray or Vando
Demar or Lebron
Lebron or AD
AD or capela
Trae young, a 5:11 guard, who has been
Torch for 60, and 70
Points. Trae young, will
Hurt the team. A poison
Pill.
Kyrie Irving says he definitely considered reuniting with LeBron James last season, but he suggests asking the GMs why it didn’t work out “Everything was considered. He's a great friend of mine, a great brother of mine. We obviously played together [in Cleveland]. Everybody knows our history. But there were so many different factors in between. When it comes to business decisions, you have to ask the GMs, the presidents why certain things didn't work out.”
Thanks Rob Pelinka 🤡
Get Mikal Bridges, Alex Caruso and a proper defensive, rebounding centre
Trae Young is not a fit would rather have Anfernee Simons instead
But honestly build the team more. This offseason I'd try to get:
Isaiah Hartenstein 7'0. C 26yrs
Jalen McDaniels. 6'9. F 26yrs
Naji Marshall. 6'6. G/F 26yrs
Saddiq Bey. 6'7. G/F 25yrs
Tyus Jones. 6'1. G 27yrs
Trae is a solid 3 point shooter but also 42% FG in general while being 5ft1
Dlo is also shot 42 percent from 3 where did that get us
I agree previous comments also they never developed bench and also number one priority for lakers is good solid player for LBJ back up and Anthony Davis.
C- Isaiah Hartenstein
PF - AD
SF - Lebron
SG - KCP/Bruce Brown
PG - Tyrese Maxey
Bench
Reeves
Vincent
Vando
Rui
Lakers should find a MURRAY stopper, he is the killer of the Lakers two seasons already, AR and D-Lo cannot guard Murray😢
they said from the beginning when the hired him that his known as a preach not a tactical coach nether a player developer. we need a tactical coach who can develope our young core.
Young core ? 😂😂😂😂😂
Lauri Markanen 🔜
I promise you Trae is not the on court solution to Lakers issues.
Hope the Front Office don't make this BIG mistake. Crossing fingers.
Is there any chance we can bring back Malik Monk ?
I don't think so. Sac won't trade him especially back to the Lakers. Crazy to think we had him and didn't want to pay him the next yr.
Asking Sean about Trae , is like asking Akedemiks about Drake . Please no, no Trae young .
when you have AD you gotta have a bruiser so he’s not that fragile when post season comes
Lakers main issue: Facing teams (specifically Denver) with size. Proposed potential solution: Trae Young?!
I got love for TY but he's not what we need in these last LBJ years. We don't need more undersized playmakers. Go for depth, that's arguably one of the main reasons we've been where we've been lately.
A lot of people don’t realize Trae is a very good passer. Trae + AD pick n roll is lethal. Plus Trae likes playing during big moments. Let’s GO All in Trae
You are acting like AD won’t miss substantial time next season…. This year was completely out of the ordinary for his career. Lakers need more bigs for when he inevitably gets injured
Dlo ,, max Christi ,, Lauri ,, Lebron, AD =champship
No way with the asking price supposedly including 3 1st rd picks plus AR Rui etc heck to the nah man. 1 1st and players maybe sure but all those picks. Thats plain stupid. Disaster franchise material.
Why are you all so giddy over a man possibly losing his job? It’s sick how much pleasure you both seem to get regarding the subject.
Go for depth. Need better role players to improve team.
I would take Murray over young but we also need a legitimate big Center
Why is Sean Davis always lying about knowing culture references. Trevor ask him if knows a reference, Sean says yes but clearly doesn’t know it and Trevor has to explain. It’s ok to say you don’t know lol
The Lakers are a better team with Trae Young!!! AD masks Trae Young's defensive deficiencies!!! Stephen Curry plays absolutely no defense at all!!! However Golden State still has been successful!!! All the Lakers have to do when acquiring Trae Young is play good team defense, and they'll be fine!!!😉👍🏿
Jaden McDaniels was a steal
Wish we had of gotten OG Anunoby. That’s what we need. If only Cam and Vando could shoot 36-37%+ from deep. We’d be set.
Vando is strictly one way player who's near mediocre in every offensive category. FT 65%, 3PT 29%
Trae folds in the playoffs. He did last year and he did this year. We need someone that won’t fold come playoffs
This just in DARVIN HAM signs a 3 year extension with LA LAKERS!!!!!!!!!!! Wooooo hooooooo!!!!!
Most stars are either a floor raiser or a ceiling raiser. The very best superstars like LeBron and Jokic give you both. Trae Young is a weird outlier… he raises your floor but also lowers your ceiling.
I remember during the trade deadline when everyone was surprised dlo wasn’t moved or any move at that matter, I remember Sean specifically saying I think this is a mistake and at the time I really didn’t think of it, but now this entire offseason rides on Dlo. Why do you think Dlo said on his exit interview he has all the leverage? If Dlo walks we’re cooked, if he asks for a 4 year deal we’re cooked…the entire offseason rides on Dlo just because rob pelinka the snake didn’t make a trade for him or any trade at all
To what team is DLO walking? Spurs are not giving him anywhere close to 19 mil per--- His best bet is to pickup his option and work on his athleticism and motor in the offseason.
@@ShowtimeLakersbaby808 His attitude stinks. His exit interview proved it. When he's good he's very good. But he's not a guy you can depend on in the playoffs.
DLO has the leverage on whether to opt in or opt out but he can't really dictate much else. I doubt if there is another team that would pay him more than the Lakers and for a longer contract. I wouldn't be surprised if he's back with the team on a similar contract. All other teams have a good idea about DLO: inconsistent in the regular season, sometimes great sometimes awful but he always sucked in the Play Offs!
Trae Young is not "The Guy"!!! He is a 2024 Version of Van Exel - Super Entertaining on Offense but, will not take US to a Championship!!!
Honestly, I feel like we just need a true center to help with the boards, and 3 and D guards. Also a more competent coach. Idk if Trae is worth it
I think we worry about winning with LeBron and AD now and then we worry about post LeBron when we cross that bridge. It makes no sense to make trades for a post LeBron scenario. He's still a top 5/10 player in the league and we need to take advantage of having a player like that while we still do.
We need DJ and someone like DFS
Does Trae play defense? Can Trae slow down jamal murray? I don't know if this is good move
We need a Center
#2. This year instead of vying for a tall guard the focus should’ve been on Capella. Clippers got plummlee and tice. Mavericks magically got taller and maybe bc of injuries the Lakers got magically smaller. And now they’re thinking of getting even smaller.
Who are the other PGs in the west and how is Trae guarding them
Rui, Christie (re signed) and 2029 first rounder for Jaren Jackson Jr.
Markinnen is good I like him
He’s much maligned for some reason but has made the ECF while playing with no other elite players. If he can be acquired for relatively cheap he could make an impact alongside Lebron, Vando and AD with defensive role players
Rui Gabe and 1st for Kuz and JHS 1st this yr pick Swap in the future for Ivey and Stewart. Ivey is the attacking guard with potential you need. Stewart would be your Naz Reid and Kuz is a upgrade over Rui who gotta go.
Terrible trade
I like the idea 👌
@@TheQuickyouknowno it's not and makes sense
@@g.isobar989 By far the worst comment on this entire video 🤣
Not even close. To small, doesn't play defense. The Lakers need to build a roster like the Minnesota Timmber Wolves. Players who play tough defense, and can score the ball. Plus they need a quality big man.
Don’t want Trae, but if it happens we’ll need Trent Jr and Oubre to put next to him for defense.
Trae isn’t enough to get out of the play-in the Leastern Conference. Why would he be the right piece to target?
U think dlo & AR can lead a team to the playoffs?
Weight lost to Denver again for two reasons, we did not have Dwight Howard and we did have Darvin ham
I screamed “No” like freaking Vader in Revenge of the Sith when they traded for Russ. I can’t do it again man, I just can’t.
The best case scenario is ham is the coach at atlanta working with young
NO, we need an experienced mobile big to patrol the paint, block out, rebound and take control.
Exactly, Trae is good but we need a big to anchor the middle.
I've been thinking the same since last season
He would be a good fit with AD and that is what it should be about
Idk why we can't get this right. We messed up & got Russ instead of DeRozan & Buddy, we resigned D-Lo & let Schroeder walk, now we going after Trae.... Like wtf!!!
Lakers need a two way guards like Antman