The Failure of REBEL MOON - PART TWO: THE SCARGIVER (Explained)

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  • "Rebel Moon - Part Two: The Scargiver," is the follow-up to Zack Snyder's widely criticized "Rebel Moon - Part One: A Child of Fire," which premiered last December and held the dubious distinction of being Snyder's worst-reviewed work.
    Unfortunately, this second part, while shorter and more direct than its predecessor, fails to revive the franchise, marked by its lazy attempt at worldbuilding and character development.
    The sequel continues in a universe initially conceived as a "Star Wars" spinoff.
    Snyder, known for his directorial work on "Dawn of the Dead", “Watchmen” and "300," arguably his most acclaimed films, is also known for his directorial work on Army of the Dead, and the Rebel Moon duology, arguably his worst films to date. While his first three films helped launch his career, his past three movies have cratered it.
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  • @IlIlI_
    @IlIlI_ 29 дней назад +293

    Rebel Moon 2 was the next sci-fi film I saw after having experienced Dune 2 in IMAX. My dissappointment was immeasurable.

    • @RuSosan
      @RuSosan 29 дней назад +34

      But was your day ruined?

    • @uria3679
      @uria3679 29 дней назад +4

      The only people who watched this are the people who wanted to see a queer character get violently killed
      If you don’t know what I’m talking about, watch Watchmen’s opening

    • @dqreps
      @dqreps 29 дней назад

      ​@@uria3679best part of the movie!! 🍻

    • @milovarquiel
      @milovarquiel 28 дней назад +8

      The ying and yang of 2024 cinema.

    • @Eternitycomplex
      @Eternitycomplex 28 дней назад +5

      Yeah it's crazy that the best Sci Fi sequel in a generation and the worst in a generation both came out in the same year. 😂

  • @Pwn3dbyth3n00b
    @Pwn3dbyth3n00b 29 дней назад +117

    Zack Synder fans online are really weird. They worship the dude for some reason. One of them tried to tell me Rebel Moon was better than Dune 2

    • @WyattDucar
      @WyattDucar 29 дней назад +9

      Exactly the same thought I have!

    • @teddnaing6851
      @teddnaing6851 28 дней назад +1

      They had been crazy since the Snyder cut BS. They wouldn't admit Snyder cut was equally awful. They are stupid people. Don't mind them.

    • @reventon_4442
      @reventon_4442 28 дней назад +30

      I thought I was a huge zack snyder fan since everything he touched was gold, I even thought Army of the Dead was just a one-time mistake, but man watching him during interviews just shows how delusional he is

    • @asarishepard8171
      @asarishepard8171 28 дней назад +16

      Same with the joss whedon ride or dies or the kevin smith ones. They could get literal crap and smile and nod

    • @thearmchairjournalist566
      @thearmchairjournalist566 28 дней назад +16

      To say almost anything is better than Dune 1 or 2 is blasphemy 😮

  • @tankjr84
    @tankjr84 29 дней назад +233

    "Farming is something only we can do!"
    Proceeds to show a group of characters, that have never farmed before, do it like pros.

    • @reinereine1896
      @reinereine1896 28 дней назад +7

      It's really not that hard to learn. I live in an asphalt jungle but all summers I live with my grandparents on the countryside and I help them almost daily with farming during this time.

    • @mmm-mmm
      @mmm-mmm 28 дней назад +3

      by the way that general grevous guy is swinging his scythe, he's not a pro...

    • @reinereine1896
      @reinereine1896 28 дней назад +5

      @@mmm-mmm As I said earlier - using a scythe isen't really difficault to learn.

    • @Voodoo_Robot
      @Voodoo_Robot 20 дней назад +1

      Except that mister general guy. He does not know how to use a scythe for sure.

    • @Voodoo_Robot
      @Voodoo_Robot 20 дней назад +1

      ​@@reinereine1896it isn't. But that guy is really bad at it.

  • @jasoncarter1869
    @jasoncarter1869 28 дней назад +93

    "Dooo ittttt.....doo eettttt, kill herrr" =
    "Oh hi Mark"

    • @georgekostaras
      @georgekostaras 28 дней назад +7

      I can’t believe Zack got Tommy wisesu on board

    • @kaidose
      @kaidose 6 дней назад +1

      I thought it was critical drinker for a second 😂

  • @Xehanort10
    @Xehanort10 28 дней назад +115

    The funniest thing about Rebel Moon is Snyder insisting it's his original idea when it's a ripoff of better sci fi stuff.

    • @summertyme5748
      @summertyme5748 28 дней назад +19

      That he pitched as a Star Wars spinoff and got rejected. He really is delusional as are his cult members.

    • @uria3679
      @uria3679 27 дней назад

      @@summertyme5748they just want to see a queer character violently die
      If you have seen the opening intro to Watchmen, you’ll know what I’m talking about

    • @uria3679
      @uria3679 27 дней назад

      @@summertyme5748would you watch a Snyder movie if someone told you that a “Minority group” you hated violently died in it?
      Because that is one of the few reasons why people watch his films

  • @chardy7071
    @chardy7071 29 дней назад +39

    I've seen plenty of mediocre movies, and while I've managed to find some entertainment in them, 'Rebel Moon' took things to a whole new level. Its script was so poorly crafted that I felt it was an insult to my intelligence. Honestly, I regret even hearing about this movie, let alone watching it. No disrespect to fans of Zach, but this film felt like a genuine assault on the intellect. (Truly a scargiver)

  • @NightSentinel51
    @NightSentinel51 29 дней назад +90

    Snyder is the literal "Am I out of touch? No, it's the children who are wrong" meme. He did some ok films and for some reason, people think he is the second coming of Orson Welles but he is Uwe Boll with a budget. This man is a reason why good Netflix shows get canceled.

    • @WyattDucar
      @WyattDucar 29 дней назад +9

      Exactly at least Uwe Boll Clearly is aware that he’s hated Plus he even say “Fuck You.” In a video most likely for the film audience.
      Ultimately what I’m saying is that at least Uwe Boll Is Jake Paul Someone who’s aware that he’s hated but at the same time somehow make a profit out of it Snyder Not only is out of touch with the audience, but also Clearly having an ego problem (I will admit Uwe Was also an ego maniac as well, but still.) As well as an edge lord, in general
      Don’t get me wrong. I do feel bad for him for how ugly Warners Treated him during the DCEU (It was also his fault as well, but it was the studios that made it worse.) As well as the loss of his child Ultimately as a person based on interviews, he seems like a nice guy, but still I think you should find a common so we could adapt like maybe adapting sex criminals Turn that into a film for Netflix, (After all, he did sign a deal with him hence why he doesn’t do studio films anymore give it how ugly his relationship with Warner Turned out.) But don’t make him the cinematographer or the writer just be the Director who adapt shop by shot that’s it!

    • @paulgibbon5991
      @paulgibbon5991 28 дней назад +17

      The best description I've heard is that he's like Michael Bay, if Michael Bay started taking himself seriously.

    • @WyattDucar
      @WyattDucar 28 дней назад +4

      @@paulgibbon5991 True but at least Michael Bay is aware that he is hated but like Jake Paul he just profited from it. Snyder is just out of touch when it comes to good writing!

    • @kingofhearts3185
      @kingofhearts3185 28 дней назад +1

      ​@@paulgibbon5991 Best comparison yet.

    • @Bxgodson2fl2
      @Bxgodson2fl2 28 дней назад +5

      This is facts. The Snyders work takes mediocrity to new heights.

  • @mitchthe3518
    @mitchthe3518 29 дней назад +60

    Rebel Moon really felt like a Divergent type Y.A. book from 10 years ago

    • @luxeternity
      @luxeternity 28 дней назад

      Ooffffff😂 Holy shit.

    • @merphul
      @merphul 28 дней назад

      Down to the entirely pointless love triangle.

    • @ahardworker2154
      @ahardworker2154 21 день назад

      Thanks for reminding me of that god awful book/movie series

  • @milovarquiel
    @milovarquiel 28 дней назад +45

    It's amazing to see Dune 2 and Rebel Moon 2 and their directors, both were dreaming to make those movies and even envision them since they were almost children, Dennis even made storyboards, while Zack simply had the idea (and ideas can birth scripts, but scripts can't be simply ideas).
    And while Dennis struggle to advance and improve his career with limited budgets and even had to battle Warner so he could do Dune and not getting the 2nd part canned, Zack was given the keys to the kingdom since the beginning and Netflix gave him money to throw for Rebel Moon, also Dennis was never showered with praise by the public, only by critics, people simply said his work was "good", while Zach has always being showered with praise by the public and shunned by the critics. Now the roles have been reversed, Dennis is a public and critical darling and Snyder is justly shunned by the public and critics.
    And now after the dust has settle, you can see that Dennis is aware he could made Dune 2 even better and he is trying to improve his art, Zach thinks his piece of shit is equal and above to Dune 2. One director was always hungry and fought for every inch, while the other never saw nothing else than a full plate and was given miles without deserving them.

    • @SuCKeRPunCH187
      @SuCKeRPunCH187 28 дней назад +4

      Snyder needs an intervention

    • @bjdepro
      @bjdepro 28 дней назад +5

      Synder is a self delusional joke tbh he self proclaimed that rebel one part one made more money than Barbie. He is taking narcissism to a whole new level

    • @WyattDucar
      @WyattDucar 28 дней назад +2

      You could also blame Netflix as well considering they care more about viewership then reviews we see that with Bright from 2017?

  • @bigdadybojangls9219
    @bigdadybojangls9219 27 дней назад +19

    I truly don’t understand why Snyder gets these big budget projects tossed his way. Absolutely baffling

    • @tanepukenga1421
      @tanepukenga1421 15 дней назад +2

      People remembering their 30's and 40's when he made them a banks worth of money out of watchmen and dawn of the dead. The interesting thing is he's only been successful off the back of other people's writing or ideas. When he's on his own, he flounders - but they name gives the minimum sales/watches/youtube rentals.
      Bottom lining brings everyone to the floor

  • @michaelsinger4638
    @michaelsinger4638 29 дней назад +27

    So Kora
    Stands by and let’s the royal family be murdered.
    Killed an innocent child she was sworn to protect herself
    Only regrets it when SHE herself is betrayed
    Doesn’t kill the evil mastermind when he’s right in front of her.
    Just kills a bunch of random guards and runs away.
    Makes excuses for her actions.
    So, are we supposed to feel bad for her?

    • @WyattDucar
      @WyattDucar 29 дней назад +1

      To be fair, she was under pressure to do it As well as being forced to buy her adopted father Plus, she clearly feels remorse in the present!

    • @Center-For-I.E.D.Mismanagement
      @Center-For-I.E.D.Mismanagement 29 дней назад +6

      ​@@WyattDucar
      That is nowhere near good enough. This entire franchise is a prime example of incompetent cinematic shiterature.

    • @dontshootmex5588
      @dontshootmex5588 28 дней назад +7

      Having her kill unarmed medics who were just trying to help her was certainly an interesting directing decision.

    • @spencers4121
      @spencers4121 28 дней назад +1

      Snyder didn't think to really flesh out the main characters back story.
      I get the impression she drank the Kool aid from the military, until killing the kid broke her in the end.

    • @Center-For-I.E.D.Mismanagement
      @Center-For-I.E.D.Mismanagement 28 дней назад +1

      @@spencers4121
      Except the kid is still alive. Snyder didn't think at all.

  • @EivindFlores
    @EivindFlores 29 дней назад +39

    It was so bad that I couldn't bring myself to finish it.
    I used to be a Snyder fan and defender, but this is the last straw.

    • @billbrennan2347
      @billbrennan2347 29 дней назад +3

      You can still like his good movies🤦

    • @danielduncan6806
      @danielduncan6806 29 дней назад +4

      People need to be more cognizant of the responsibility they take on when they defend someone/something. You are lucky I do not have the necessary power to enforce your responsibility.

    • @teddnaing6851
      @teddnaing6851 28 дней назад

      ​@@billbrennan2347 What movie? His movies haven't been good for decades, stupid.

    • @asarishepard8171
      @asarishepard8171 28 дней назад +4

      Did you miss gunnars death csuse that went on so long it became hilarious. I told the tv " die already "

    • @summertyme5748
      @summertyme5748 28 дней назад +4

      @@billbrennan2347 _You can still like his good movies_
      That's _things that never did exist in the 1st place, for 500 Alex!_

  • @suraj01
    @suraj01 28 дней назад +17

    The critics when they made fun of movies like Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets, Jupiter Ascending, etc never knew it could get sooooooo much worse 😅😅

  • @Exar_Kun
    @Exar_Kun 28 дней назад +24

    David Hogg’s character saying “Deeew it keeeell her” is one of the greatest dialog line readings that’s ever existed!!!

    • @summertyme5748
      @summertyme5748 28 дней назад +5

      Gal Gadot enters chat, and takes 69 on _Kal-el...no._ Zat, good, Mr, Snyder?

    • @merphul
      @merphul 28 дней назад +4

      It's probably supposed to sound menacing and dramatic, but comes off as whiny and pathetic.

    • @Exar_Kun
      @Exar_Kun 27 дней назад +2

      @@summertyme5748 🤣🤣🤣🤣💯

  • @TheRoguePrince0
    @TheRoguePrince0 29 дней назад +43

    I asked chatgpt to write a movie about a small group of farmers that have to fight an evil empire. Have the main character be named cora, who's a former imperial soldier.
    Here's what chatgpt gave me.
    Title: Fields of Rebellion
    Synopsis: In the lush countryside of a remote planet, a small group of farmers led by Cora find themselves thrust into a battle against an oppressive empire that seeks to exploit their land and resources. Cora, a former soldier of the empire haunted by her past, reluctantly takes up the mantle of leadership as she rallies her fellow farmers to resist the tyranny that threatens their way of life.
    Sounds familiar.

    • @summertyme5748
      @summertyme5748 28 дней назад +6

      Oh boy! - Screen Pitch

    • @DD-zh4by
      @DD-zh4by 28 дней назад +10

      You really don't understand how ai works do you...
      That's like searching Google for Yoda and being surprised when starwars comes up...

    • @babytoshiro7014
      @babytoshiro7014 28 дней назад

      That's interesting but.. ai/chatgpt is nothing more than a search engine.

  • @Center-For-I.E.D.Mismanagement
    @Center-For-I.E.D.Mismanagement 29 дней назад +17

    Snyder needs to permanently stop doing anything that isn't *Directing.*
    ETA:
    These heinous "films," should be identified as "A Shart-room Memoir on Character Assassination."

  • @RonnieLovesJiuJitsu
    @RonnieLovesJiuJitsu 28 дней назад +11

    "What do you mean you 'have a lock on the village.'? It's not a moving target. It's stationary." lmfao

  • @sealofapproval3578
    @sealofapproval3578 29 дней назад +13

    Rebel Moon is like your discord friend’s OC lore that you know it’s bad but you don’t want to be mean to your friend so you just read it.

  • @samuel-no8yp
    @samuel-no8yp 28 дней назад +17

    Part one was painful to watch. I'm all for mindless action movies but it wasn't mindless. It was mind numbing torture and I willingly sat there and watched it, hoping it would get better. When I realized it wasn't going to I was already halfway through and just forced myself to finish it. Thanks for letting me know it doesn't get any better in part two.

    • @asarishepard8171
      @asarishepard8171 28 дней назад +3

      At least with mindless action films like the 80s, there were charismatic characters to get behind.

  • @kellyngrey4950
    @kellyngrey4950 29 дней назад +66

    This is just a sci-fi knock off of "A Bug's Life" set in space.

    • @cklee702
      @cklee702 28 дней назад +6

      Which was a knock off of seven samurai.

    • @stellviahohenheim
      @stellviahohenheim 28 дней назад +2

      ​@@cklee702Which a knock off to The birth of a nation

    • @summertyme5748
      @summertyme5748 28 дней назад

      ^ So it's a racist propaganda film about the Ku KLux Klan?

    • @supersayian193
      @supersayian193 28 дней назад

      All of it is a knock off of the beginning of the universe now shut the fuck up

    • @eljcd
      @eljcd 28 дней назад +1

      Pal, IS easy to point what movie IS not a rip off... SpongeBob, maybe?

  • @VectorMonz
    @VectorMonz 28 дней назад +11

    I always hated Zack's films without knowing he directed them. I really hated: Watchmen, 300, and Dawn of the Dead.

    • @summertyme5748
      @summertyme5748 28 дней назад +2

      The original Night and Dawn of the Dead are the two masterpieces from George Romero that the whole fugging Zombie movie industry is built on.

    • @spencers4121
      @spencers4121 28 дней назад +2

      He's got a couple of good ones, but yes by and large a lot of turds or just meh movies.

  • @VectorMonz
    @VectorMonz 28 дней назад +9

    The setting could have been a mining village that mines a rare mineral that is needed for construction of warships.

    • @merphul
      @merphul 28 дней назад

      But but... Seven Samurai is about grain!!

  • @conqc20
    @conqc20 28 дней назад +10

    You would think being given a name like "Scargiver" she would be someone who mutilates faces so they remember her. Not just healed stab or bullet wounds.

    • @ANTIStraussian
      @ANTIStraussian 10 дней назад

      He had a dollar coin sized scar on his chest!

  • @brunswic51
    @brunswic51 28 дней назад +11

    42:19 Wouldn’t be more interesting if his parents decided to side with King or Balisarius and he chose to leave out of disgust?

    • @dontshootmex5588
      @dontshootmex5588 28 дней назад +4

      Yes, absolutely, but then Zack couldn't have had his cool shot of the mom jumping off a balcony with explosions in the background

  • @sebastianprimomija8375
    @sebastianprimomija8375 28 дней назад +15

    Disney: Look Zach we can handle tanking the Star Wars franchise without your help.
    Zach: Yeah well my Sci-fi film will have blackjack and live music quartets!

    • @WyattDucar
      @WyattDucar 28 дней назад +3

      See what you will about Disney, but in this case, it’s probably for the best for not greenlit This film as a Star Wars film as much hate. Disney is four Star Wars I think in this case it’s one of the better decisions they make!

  • @brandenmanuel2037
    @brandenmanuel2037 28 дней назад +15

    Zack Snyder once again brings us
    Style over Substance

    • @summertyme5748
      @summertyme5748 28 дней назад

      Here's something scary though - that *is* what some folks want. I mean there are people who think that Denis Villeneuve's Dune is boring (!) It has too many ideas, and not enough light saber fighting or goofy robots, like 'non boring' films. At least Zack can be counted on for a few really bloody slo mo decapitations and lots of homo erotic scenes of men's abs. 🤣

  • @Anaxes005
    @Anaxes005 27 дней назад +5

    "ANSWER ME MAN!!" was the best gift from this film. Please use it in further works I laughed every time.

  • @Bond22ish
    @Bond22ish 29 дней назад +10

    This will be the most Rebel Moon footage I watch

  • @ntnwwnet
    @ntnwwnet 29 дней назад +69

    mate, you spent longer analyzing and breaking down the movie than most people spent WATCHING it 😂
    (love your work btw)

    • @LizardSpork
      @LizardSpork 28 дней назад +4

      Or the people who made it...

  • @AndrewSnake
    @AndrewSnake 28 дней назад +7

    Wow ... i never saw FCE emotion slip so much in this ... can you imagine this be like a 6 part saga ....

  • @ayanami808
    @ayanami808 28 дней назад +5

    Man I really appreciate these extended cuts of you analysis. Even if it’s on a film that is judged as not good. Despite that I’m able be to get so much more into everything. Great job as always.

  • @tochukwuudu7763
    @tochukwuudu7763 29 дней назад +28

    Haven't been on the channel in a while tons of content to catch up on, congrats on 1 mill man.

  • @danielduncan6806
    @danielduncan6806 29 дней назад +34

    I am so sorry you had to watch the second one to make this video. I was able to skip it. But you, you HAD to watch it.

  • @AnvilPictures
    @AnvilPictures 29 дней назад +10

    42:37 “you bloody muppet” made me laugh

  • @ExplodedBoot
    @ExplodedBoot 28 дней назад +8

    Zach is a good visual stroryteller. What he needs are writers to give him story and dialogue, which I think he should consider. No shame in that Zach

    • @specialnewb9821
      @specialnewb9821 28 дней назад +2

      But he hasn't been telling good visual stories for the last several movies. Maybe he isn't anymore

    • @ExplodedBoot
      @ExplodedBoot 28 дней назад +2

      @@specialnewb9821 because he's writing them.. he needs to quit writing and rely on others' work to put to screen. That or he's just done and burned out....don't know

  • @YTSORF
    @YTSORF 27 дней назад +7

    I ENJOYED THIS SO MUCH MORE THAN THE ACTUAL "MOVIE" 😂

  • @jobymanuel1353
    @jobymanuel1353 28 дней назад +7

    If anyone wants to watch a sci-fi version of 7 Samurais, just watch the anime Samurai 7.

  • @Lurkai
    @Lurkai 28 дней назад +7

    9:47
    Pretty much me the whole movie.
    We should never let Zack cook on his own again, but I hope he and the crew had fun making the film lol
    Thank you FCE for your amazing deep dives into these movies 🙏🏾❤️

  • @MorganVsTheInternet
    @MorganVsTheInternet 29 дней назад +12

    We already have Seven Samurai, but in space, 2004’s Samurai 7!

    • @lukedalton
      @lukedalton 16 дней назад

      Well there is also 'Battle beyond the star' by Roger Corman (early 80's) more campy but a lot more fun and with much more heart than what snyder produced

    • @peterp4k
      @peterp4k 16 дней назад

      Another terrible Seven Samurai ripoff is the Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon: Sword of Destiny.

    • @lukedalton
      @lukedalton 16 дней назад

      @@peterp4k what? Never heard of that

  • @shainewhite2781
    @shainewhite2781 29 дней назад +33

    00:37, exactly what everyone else was thinking when they saw that. Lol!

  • @TheKarjee
    @TheKarjee 28 дней назад +5

    Gunnar was a strange void where a character should be. I feel like any good writer would've added some drama between him and Kora. Where they fight over tactics or the child murder, as you said. Then in the 3rd act they both sneak onto to the ship but separately, helps her escape etc. Also The blindfolded improv musicians. Literally, spectacularly, stupid. They played her out and everything! lmao.

  • @JustinsGarage
    @JustinsGarage 29 дней назад +10

    The first 30 seconds and I know this movie is absolute dogshit

  • @Koomoa
    @Koomoa 19 дней назад +3

    Problem with Zack Snyder, is he comes up with the title for the movie before he’s even thought up a movie. And just builds everything around that.

  • @AresofWar_
    @AresofWar_ 29 дней назад +17

    Yo man, I know you love Guillermo del toro but im surprised you haven't covered cabinet of curiosities, do you plan on covering it at some point

    • @filmcomicsexplained
      @filmcomicsexplained  29 дней назад +6

      I can add it to the list, but I'm yet to see it yet!

    • @AresofWar_
      @AresofWar_ 29 дней назад

      @@filmcomicsexplained you gots to watch it, it's so good, would be hard to do a video per episode but a overview of the series would be nice :)

    • @B..B.
      @B..B. 29 дней назад +1

      This would be great

    • @AnvilPictures
      @AnvilPictures 29 дней назад +1

      Pickmens Model is great

  • @morganleanderblake678
    @morganleanderblake678 29 дней назад +7

    I'm wondering how to uninsulate Snyder enough for him to actually get some useful feedback. He's got some neat stylistic ideas and direction choices but he seems to suffer from a squad of yes men who don't know how to say "that's a dumb idea."
    Also, any director that looked at the horrible costuming and wigs in that royalty scene and didn't totally rethink the lighting scheme failed fundamentally.

    • @bjdepro
      @bjdepro 28 дней назад +3

      The man is so full of himself, he is beyond salvation, just give up on him so him could go and do some B rated movies that nobody cares, the man literally called everyone stupid for not understanding his movies, because they are soooo deeeeeeeep lol what a joke

    • @morganleanderblake678
      @morganleanderblake678 20 дней назад

      @@bjdepro fair enough. He has done a few neat things, stylistically, like a lot of The 300 cinematography choices he made. But the substance part falls flat completely.

  • @Empress_Theresa
    @Empress_Theresa 27 дней назад +3

    It's fascinating to me how some directors believe modern armies would fighting like we used to do in the middle ages. George Lucas is guilty of the same sin. It's like these people never heard of a thing called precision strike. I'm mean, they know where the precious grains is, right?

  • @michaelsinger4638
    @michaelsinger4638 29 дней назад +6

    Belisarius is such a comically non-threatening main villain. He looks ridiculous. His voice is goofy, and he is not intimidating or charismatic at all.
    Why would anyone follow this dork? Emperor Palpatine he is not.

    • @WyattDucar
      @WyattDucar 29 дней назад

      To be honest, I think Bailsarius Should’ve been the villain For the duology And even though the assassination Was atrocious I do like him in the first movie With noble at the end, because At least he gives me fives of a calculating and quiet villain At least until this film (The reason I said it is is because I hate We’re just yelled and get angry. I love my feelings calculating and manipulative pure evil bastards like Palpatine or the bad guy from Chinatown Hell even Kurtz, Vito and Michael Coreleone.
      I will I actually do like Fra Fee An actor and I appreciate that they age him 20 years With the make up Which does hold up I will get Snyder that but still Like every actor in this film It is the script that is the problem, not the actor!

    • @blurg2712
      @blurg2712 28 дней назад +1

      That fake beard is pretty intimidating though. Like "oh man, I'll bet that's scratchy, better not mess with this guy"

    • @WyattDucar
      @WyattDucar 28 дней назад

      @@blurg2712 Exactly, Bailsarius is definitively an interesting character (I would go far and say he is way interesting then everyone else outside of Noble because well it is Ed Skrein, despite the over top assassination scene from Part 2. You have to admit the fact that he even managed to pull this off with a group of senators on his side is brilliant showing how a much of mastermind he is? His only mistake was branded Kora a traitor but from the grand scheme of things he actually did won.
      One of the things I actually thought I apprenticed Snyder for is giving the names of individuals from the Imperium these roman names especially Bailsarius being a name from a famous roman general Beilsarius who was the main general of Justinian's conquest of the west.
      I also will admit I like the composers were playing for the assassination almost as if Belisarius want this event to be remembered in History of the Motherworld. I do like how the bags on their heads represented some sort of Death. Ultimatley while the scene is ass I do loved the Music playing as well Junkie XL in general. (He always do great with the music.) I think Bailsarius has potential and Fra Fee is actually a good actor ultimately it's not his fault with the acting it's more of the script?

  • @LostTimeLady
    @LostTimeLady 28 дней назад +6

    "for some reason this grain can only grow on this planet. We know. We tried. But without this grain we cannot apease the space-god-head that powers our ships which demands only this grain as offering". There, I fixed that plot hole for you Zach, where's my millions? 😂

    • @asarishepard8171
      @asarishepard8171 28 дней назад +5

      I ws thinking due to the planets...whatever, trajectory to a certain sun it was magic wheat where one piece of bread from the threshed wheat could fill you for a day. Space lambas bread. Was that so hard zack?

    • @LostTimeLady
      @LostTimeLady 28 дней назад +2

      @@asarishepard8171 yep! We're all over here brainstorming better plots than him in RUclips comments!

    • @asarishepard8171
      @asarishepard8171 28 дней назад +2

      @@LostTimeLady ikr, and were not even trying that hard! Meaning he didn't try at all! I like your idea how the ship kali need the grain, its a good idea 💡

    • @merphul
      @merphul 28 дней назад

      We don't grow grain, we grow an alien plant that stores incredible amounts of energy as it spends months soaking up the unique solar spectrum of our sun.
      That's why we must harvest and process it by hand, as to not trigger the explosive release of energy by accident.
      That's why we can't fire cannons on the energy grain, because it'll cause a chain reaction that will expand and damage our ship.
      It's that easy to make up a rational reason.

    • @ahardworker2154
      @ahardworker2154 21 день назад

      @asarishepard8171 basically it's Disney Wish all over again.

  • @trollman1296
    @trollman1296 29 дней назад +6

    There's a part two? I thought after the lackluster of the first movie it was scrapped, just like what happened to Mortal Engine

    • @WyattDucar
      @WyattDucar 29 дней назад +1

      To be honest, I would rather have that Then both Rebel Movies!

  • @jamesstevenson8727
    @jamesstevenson8727 28 дней назад +3

    Congratulations on reaching 1 million subs. Legend

  • @sreyangovender3404
    @sreyangovender3404 28 дней назад +2

    Despite being derivative and edited down, Part Two satisfied me with its second half of pure, visceral action
    Looking forward to the extended cuts

  • @darkshamrock5763
    @darkshamrock5763 29 дней назад +4

    I couldn’t finish the first one and canceled my Netflix recently so I wouldn’t be able to possibly finish the first and watch this. Thank you for this!

    • @adakahless
      @adakahless 28 дней назад +3

      The sad thing is that this movie is a waste of your time but this video on youtube is worth all that time and then some.

  • @Rougrou1597
    @Rougrou1597 29 дней назад +7

    All of their merch for the first movie went to Clarence at my local walmart

    • @bjdepro
      @bjdepro 28 дней назад +2

      Loooooooooool who in the right mind would think Zack Zynder will make a commercially successful movie?? The man literally tanked the whole DCEU franchise lol

    • @spencers4121
      @spencers4121 28 дней назад

      @@bjdepro His cut of the Justice League is good, a lot better then the studio cut. Man of Steel isn't bad either, and he was a co writer on the first Wonder Woman.
      Outside of those, only the Batman VS Superman was meh.

  • @FoNgThOnG
    @FoNgThOnG 29 дней назад +7

    They could have ended the battle when dude landed on the farm but nope, let's waste lives by slowly fighting them and only setting off the bombs AFTER Noble has left lol

  • @hansmerker5611
    @hansmerker5611 29 дней назад +5

    I suggest a video on the Grand Army of the Republic.

  • @kayskaht2052
    @kayskaht2052 29 дней назад +4

    New to your channel. This was a BRILLIANT video-essay I thoroughly enjoyed! You've earned a new subscriber! Keep up the great work!

  • @SoulLessOne666
    @SoulLessOne666 29 дней назад +4

    just wanted to say that you almost killed me at 46:08 i was eating my desert and laughed so hard i started to choke lmao still i then muttered thats how it is as im a combat vet from 9-11

    • @SoulLessOne666
      @SoulLessOne666 29 дней назад +3

      Sir you have done what depression meds coundlt do for me in the last 30 minuets bring me out of a nasty depression. Keep up the good work n WhooooAHHHH

  • @thomasedwardharrison2879
    @thomasedwardharrison2879 28 дней назад +3

    Rebel moon makes me want to apologize to modern Star Wars as while modern Star Wars is hilariously bad, Rebel Moon puts me to sleep and I rather watch a bad movie than a boring movie

  • @jtmplmbr4465
    @jtmplmbr4465 28 дней назад +2

    “Well you see…the face is a trapped god and…”. Young lady gentle pats an older man’s arm. “That sounds very interesting grandpa, let’s get you to bed.”

  • @ShintaTakama
    @ShintaTakama 29 дней назад +5

    Haven't watched these movies yet, but from what I see it looks like a messy mashup of The Walking Dead but in space during WW2 without any zombies more than Star Wars.

    • @mehnah5033
      @mehnah5033 29 дней назад +2

      That would actually be pretty dope if done correctly.

    • @kooipah
      @kooipah 28 дней назад

      I started watching the first one after my father said it was great. Oh boy was that a disappointment. Everything in this movie is just stupid.

    • @spencers4121
      @spencers4121 28 дней назад

      The world, and the look and feel of it was great to me. However the story and writing are terrible.

  • @Eazfb
    @Eazfb 28 дней назад +2

    I love you videos, that way I can watch your videos and then decide if I should watch a movie or not.
    Skipping these movies :D

  • @shainewhite2781
    @shainewhite2781 29 дней назад +18

    Yes!
    Finally, a video on the God awful Star Wars ripoff from Zack Snyder, who should just stop making movies,
    For Good.

    • @billbrennan2347
      @billbrennan2347 29 дней назад +1

      Uh the majority of his movies are great. Dawn of the dead, 300, mos, bvs directors cut, zsjl, army of the dead.

    • @AnvilPictures
      @AnvilPictures 29 дней назад +8

      @@billbrennan2347army of the dead ehhh. Has dumb characters tons of plot holes and is just confusing from character choices. Was it entertaining sure but that doesn’t negate the fact that the problems still exist.

    • @billbrennan2347
      @billbrennan2347 29 дней назад +1

      @@AnvilPictures that’s every movie ever made.

    • @AnvilPictures
      @AnvilPictures 29 дней назад +6

      @@billbrennan2347 yes but I’ll give you an example from army of the dead. Why is that one guy aloud to kill zombies in the city when it’s illegal to even enter. Should that mean he would be arrested and charged with trespassing and also theirs a breach in the wall for zombies to escape. He’s posting it online so he’s not hiding it. Also the whole keeping people right outside the zombie infested city when they know that it takes only a matter of hours to turn seems very risky and dangerous.

    • @WyattDucar
      @WyattDucar 29 дней назад +2

      Honestly I would rather watch that film for Batista, Ella Purnell, and Hiroyuki Sanada at least they’re performances are good Compared to rebel moon (The only good Performance that I like is definitely Admiral Noble He’s a monster, but he’s fun to watch plus Ed Skrein Not only is a good/great actor but also he’s clearly having a lot of fun. Kind of like Jason Momoa in Fast X (I will I think Momoa in that film was a lot better but Skrein is second.)

  • @frankwest5388
    @frankwest5388 28 дней назад +3

    The movie might work better if it was set just after the Empire collapsed. And the Dreadnaught was just a leftover splinter group of previous army, wandering as Marauders at the outskirts of the populated galaxy.
    Which would explain why they would have to bully a small farming town for food and why a single death to their commander would hurt them so much.
    One of the reasons why “the 7 Samurai” wasn’t set against the force of imperial Japan but a couple of armed bandits is exactly that question of “how can this small group take on a country and win long term.
    It would even explain why the random village in the middle of nowhere isn’t even using modern farming equipment. The collapse of the empire would cut them off from the rest of the galaxy and they don’t have other options.
    Heck if you want to make your MCs even more interesting, you can involve them in the fall of the galaxy spanning empire somehow and how that relates to the people they help now.😊

    • @thearmchairjournalist566
      @thearmchairjournalist566 28 дней назад

      Could have worked but unfortunately you didn’t have a job as a script writer 😢

    • @frankwest5388
      @frankwest5388 28 дней назад

      @@thearmchairjournalist566
      If you know how I can get that job it would be a dream come true. I love writing and narrative structure, so I feel good if someone praises my ideas and writing

    • @Empress_Theresa
      @Empress_Theresa 27 дней назад

      That's way to close to 40k's Age of Strife. I feel that this movie was suppose to be much simpler, but it become a monster due to Zack's ginormous ego. Just like the movie 'After Earth' was originally supposed to be a simple story about a father and son bonding after a bear attack.

  • @Btk4813
    @Btk4813 29 дней назад +2

    Things like this movie, and many other examples are that years ago, I stopped watching some of my favorite IPs. The 86 animated movie is still my favorite for a reason.

  • @kai_plays_khomus
    @kai_plays_khomus 12 дней назад +1

    Snyder is better served with shooting music videos or something - it's all just a vehicle, an excuse for visual escapism to the detriment of all the aspects which would make such a project actually worthwhile and interesting not only to watch but to make.
    It's so inane I legitimatly believe I could write something better if I had time to really delve into it.

  • @RyanKarolak
    @RyanKarolak 26 дней назад +1

    I think Rebel Moon is so fascinating, in the sense of looking at how many problems it has and how bad such a big movie turned out. Maybe I am weird.

  • @thearmchairjournalist566
    @thearmchairjournalist566 28 дней назад

    I’ve been regularly stalking your channel for the last few days to see when you’re going to post a new video 🤣

  • @damianstarks3338
    @damianstarks3338 29 дней назад +1

    Happy to see you covering this second part of Rebel Moon. Happy Saturday night

  • @silentfox139
    @silentfox139 29 дней назад +4

    There was a second movie?

    • @ANTIStraussian
      @ANTIStraussian 10 дней назад

      Yes they dint even use the 12,000 bushels of wheat

  • @jtmplmbr4465
    @jtmplmbr4465 28 дней назад +1

    Epic breakdown. Thank you as always

  • @choboutube
    @choboutube 27 дней назад +1

    I actually quite liked the first one and was looking forward to the second one building on that. This one left me wondering how stories like these are written/ approved.

  • @concernedfriend.9329
    @concernedfriend.9329 11 дней назад

    I couldn’t stand how it was exactly the same as the first movie, same villain, same ship, same ending. Wild

  • @milovarquiel
    @milovarquiel 28 дней назад +1

    The jack in the box sound effect is gold

  • @aaronbood1999
    @aaronbood1999 28 дней назад +3

    Star wars, Star Trek, planet of the apes, dune, blade runner, alien and other sci fi franchises are leagues better than what Snyder could come up with.

  • @Glitch_Online
    @Glitch_Online 29 дней назад +2

    These videos are more enjoyable than the damn movies

  • @Xehanort10
    @Xehanort10 28 дней назад +1

    I laughed when I heard about the slow mo grain harvesting scene.

    • @Lurkai
      @Lurkai 28 дней назад +1

      Zack really loves that slomo lol

  • @Hunter12365
    @Hunter12365 29 дней назад +5

    40k references.....40k references everywhere....in a veryyyyy lame movie 🥴🥴🙄🙄🙄😒

    • @WyattDucar
      @WyattDucar 29 дней назад +2

      I will admit that’s the one part that actually do like these films is the 40 K references It’s interesting to think that for a film that trying to be the next Star Wars they chose Warhammer for the costumes and for the Empire.
      I’m excited to see Henry Cavill adaptation on war hammer (He is also a fan of the work so We have good hands.)

  • @IronDragon-2143
    @IronDragon-2143 28 дней назад +2

    Truly, the good Lord giveth and he taketh away. Not long after watching Dune Part 2, and it was awesome, Zack Snyder sharts his explosive diarrhea all over our TVs with Rebel Moon Part 2.
    I hate modern movies.

  • @Infamous1892
    @Infamous1892 29 дней назад +2

    Rebel Moon was seven samurai done wrong.

  • @xxvaltielxx1789
    @xxvaltielxx1789 11 дней назад

    How the hell do you manage to keep your sanity and still deliver fun and entertaining content? ANSWER ME MAN!!!

  • @Boxghost574
    @Boxghost574 25 дней назад

    I struggled through your video, because every clip you played of the movie made me die inside a little more..

  • @PaperMario64
    @PaperMario64 28 дней назад +1

    I was really angry at the villagers for not taking the initiative to gather and figure out how to use the weapons while Kora was gathering fighters. Like, no one thought to at least take an inventory and make sure they work? Also, why isn’t Jimmy mad at Kora for killing the Princess, since he loved her so much? Also, where was Jimmy during that scene?

  • @shainewhite2781
    @shainewhite2781 29 дней назад +11

    7:30, "Absolute pain." Lol!! That's a good one.

  • @tmanharp
    @tmanharp 28 дней назад

    Please do a breakdown on Severance. Lots of material for you to analyze and dissect!

  • @crazyeyez1502
    @crazyeyez1502 28 дней назад +3

    Dreadnought. Throwback to HMS Dreadnought, a coal fired battleship of the British Royal Navy? Ironic with how the British are known for their colonialism.

    • @summertyme5748
      @summertyme5748 28 дней назад +1

      I don't even think Zack has the brain power to realize that coal is actually mechanism for burning oxygen, which there is none of in space. You would need all the oxygen for 'breathing' and you would NEVER burn it, for any other purpose.
      I think a typical 13 year old who's watched a couple Star Trek episodes is more qualified to do sci fi than Zack.

    • @crazyeyez1502
      @crazyeyez1502 28 дней назад

      @summertyme5748 yea, no kidding. It's just something i noticed. Not just the name and coal power, but also how the ship brings its main guns onto target, just like a battleship. Also, HMS Dreadnought had 2-gun turrets like that.

  • @SKy_the_Thunder
    @SKy_the_Thunder 28 дней назад +3

    When your interplanetary empire relies on small pre-industrial villages on otherwise uninhabited (and vastly underutilized) planets, your entire worldbuilding makes no sense. This whole thing is Harry Potter levels of self-contradictory and nonsensical.
    If you insist on giving your bad guys a dieselpunk aesthetic, at least go all the way and have your "farming village" be the local maintenance crew that oversees the largely automated industrial farming operation that spans most of the planet. That even gives you enough tech to set up effective traps against a full army with dropships and tanks...

    • @danielshore1457
      @danielshore1457 27 дней назад

      What would have been cooler if it was a hydroponics farm in a space station, like to me that is the only way thus would work in the setting he has created

    • @SKy_the_Thunder
      @SKy_the_Thunder 27 дней назад +1

      @@danielshore1457 Would be the most realistic version, sure. But that's not always the easiest to understand for people who don't geek out over high sci-fi concepts like that.
      I'd be fine suspending my disbelief for something "closer to home" - like valleys filled with fields, and tons of crude arms, irrigation systems and giant shearing blades running on a network of guide rails between them, with the odd hovercraft with workers flying around and inspecting/maintaining/adjusting things. Throw in a line like "yeah it's not the most efficient way - but it doesn't take much to maintain and we have more than enough land for it out here, so... 🤷" and that would work for me.

    • @danielshore1457
      @danielshore1457 27 дней назад

      @@SKy_the_Thunder but then you have issues with scale and such like "why is this one farm so valuable to an empire that spans over ove hundreds of planets?" Or if it is a massive planetary wide farm "how are 7 people meant to completely defend this place?"

    • @SKy_the_Thunder
      @SKy_the_Thunder 27 дней назад

      @@danielshore1457 It would be reasonable for a moon-sized farm to make up for a significant percentage of what one planet needs, or a larger military division. They could still compensate if they lost it, sure - but it would be dangerous for them to set a precedent that others might follow. If 3 or 5 more farm planets get it into their heads to rebel as well, that could be significant enough to require temporary food rationing, at least for a certain region.
      Far from over-selling it as a "fate of the empire" threat, but still enough of a stake that they would try their hardest to prevent it. After all, the opinion of a government can sour pretty quickly if the population is faced with shortages...
      As for defending: That's where all the agricultural tech would come in. You have all that heavy machinery everywhere, so it's plausible enough for them to jury rig defenses. Some may be as simple as activating the harvesting cycle for a field and literally "mowing" down soldiers. And then there's other rather easy stuff like mounting guns onto sorting arms you can control remotely, or running improvised armored weapons platforms (= a bunch of scrap metal and weapons welded onto a passenger car) along the expansive network of transport rails. The invaders could never be sure if any moving part is just part of the regular automated farm processes or yet another weapon or trap - a hit to their morale and mental state that can't be underestimated.
      That's all stuff the ""farmers"" could set up themselves, with just a little bit of supervision and strategic know-how, because they're the most familiar with that tech already. (Wouldn't you know it? _Just like_ in the Seven Samurai!)
      On a remotely even playing field the defenders always have a massive advantage. So as long as they can keep the grain hostage to not be nuked from orbit, they should be able to keep the troops busy by using guerilla tactics. Enough for the main characters to attempt their strikes at vulnerable targets.

  • @Nathan-ew5hv
    @Nathan-ew5hv 28 дней назад +1

    This video was hilarious. This breakdown was hands down more entertaining than the actual movie.

  • @jonathanlindtner2616
    @jonathanlindtner2616 10 дней назад

    I am not sure I needed one hour to get the point, but I must admit I was entertained throughout the review :-)

  • @shainewhite2781
    @shainewhite2781 29 дней назад +4

    19:23, exactly! Lol!

  • @Armand-ue7om
    @Armand-ue7om 28 дней назад +1

    Snyder needs at least a couple of good writers brainstorming this plot. If he wants beautiful shots action scenes the additional writers could work them in reviewing and rereviewing it.

  • @91MoonKnight
    @91MoonKnight 28 дней назад +2

    Zack Snyder is a terrible writer. The reason why Rebel Moon is so bad is not only because he wrote it but because he ignores all criticism and only listens to his close circle of friends to know if something is good or not.

  • @mehnah5033
    @mehnah5033 29 дней назад +1

    9:45
    That sounds like something one would hear from a South Park episode...

  • @cameron398
    @cameron398 28 дней назад +1

    I mean the basic premise is so wildly stupid I couldn't get over it. We can travel the stars with advanced technology but cannot grow grain....like this fight is over grain. Then add in coal powered space travel, come on.

  • @613aristocrat
    @613aristocrat 28 дней назад

    Every so often, an absolutely fantastic author loses his or her touch. It's always immensely saddening to me. I still remember how it felt to read Bruce Coville's latest books and realizing that he had lost his touch. His earlier books are 5/5 amazing. His last books are maybe a 2 at best... Just depressing.

  • @Armstrong0451
    @Armstrong0451 28 дней назад +1

    The spaceships remind me of DOOM3. I like that.

  • @shainewhite2781
    @shainewhite2781 29 дней назад +2

    8:30, lol!! Yes, unfortunately.

  • @fulcrum6760
    @fulcrum6760 28 дней назад +1

    This better not become a franchise.

  • @shainewhite2781
    @shainewhite2781 29 дней назад +4

    15:53, yeah, that's right. They have to stand together or all will be lost.

  • @shainewhite2781
    @shainewhite2781 29 дней назад +3

    9:55, lol!

  • @King1Street
    @King1Street 28 дней назад

    27:40 that was savage, lol 😂