Hi Friends, In today's video, we are giving the G10 EQ a spin and compare it to my original vintage API 560 EQ, which is one of my favourite EQs for tracking and mixing drums and acoustic guitars. You can check out my review, see how the G10 compares to the API and enter the giveaway here: www.producelikeapro.com/2017/04/18/bae-g10-eq-giveaway-2/ Have a marvellous time recording and mixing many thanks Warren
I've always found the Waves 560 useful for quickly tailoring mono drum tracks and quite a number of instruments, such as keyboards (Rhodes particularly), Acoustic guitars, bass etc. I've entered the competition and have my fingers crossed for the real deal. I've always found the 560 helps me get what I want really quickly. Cheers!
!!! The Bae stuff is great the eq is big but it does not touch the Api which to me it sounds more finished and like a record should sound but the Bae held its own against one of the best eq’s out there the Api 560 eq !!!!
Hi Warren both gear is great but in my opinion 560 is better. Clarity is good. G10 for me is kind a overdriven. Though its really a matter of taste :) Have a nice day
Nice! The 560 sounds like you would an API piece to sound: punchy, detailed in the midrange and with a bit more weight and a more euphonic high end than one would expect an SSL piece to sound. The G10 was (to me) more evocative of a Neve-ish piece of gear: the transients were rounded off, it had more bottom end, even smoother highs and I suspect that with the delicate test of EQing an acoustic guitar, you would get more satisfying results with it, getting more air out of it before it became harsh. Impressive! Thanks Warren! I'm off to sign up for the giveaway!
Hi noisesoundtonevibe, definitely! The API has an amazing midrange detail and the G10 has a wonderful low end! The transformer across the input stage makes a great difference I'm sure! Horses for courses, both sound great for different applications! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Had a chance to listen through my monitors today. The snare on the G10 benefited from the low mid thickness, but required more crack to balance the tone. The 560 sounded snappier and more open, but required more low mids. The kick sounded a bit punchier through the 560, but the extra balls of G10 would win me over; not too difficult to fix with more click. The girth of the G10 really comes into its own on bass; that one was a hands down BAE win. Both great pieces. Again, good luck everyone!
I agree! As many have said, the API has an amazing mid range! The BAE has a huge bottom end! Both do incredible things, so it's definitely horses for courses! Have a marvellous time recording, many thanks Warren
Of course I entered for the bae.Love their stuff.But special thanks for another multitrack to mix.Applicable mixing experience is like gold to me right now due to circumstances.Thanks for the gracious help
Hi brian bodie you're welcome! Glad to be able to help! I love that Little Empire track! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing many thanks Warren
Interesting comparison. When they were both on the kick and set "flat" I thought the G10 sounded a bit "tubby" or "flabby". After a bit of adjustment I thought it sounded better than the 560. Similar feeling with the snare, but not as pronounced to me (I like the "snap" of the API snare too). Night and day difference on the bass. The G10 is much rounder Thanks for sharing
Hi Demag thanks for your great comment! In a perfect world I would have both to compare them on each source and choose the best tool for the job! My 560 is vintage so it's not a direct comparison to a new one! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing many Warren
Hi Warren. I absolutely LOVE your channel and videos. You offer a wealth of knowledge and deliver it in such pleasing, positive, and professional way. This morning I posted a link to one of your voice recording tutorials on a couple of Facebook groups I belong to and others are loving it too. Hope you see at least a small influx of subscribers today. Thank you very kindly for your amazing contributions!!
Hi AntiDot70, thank you ever so much for incredibly kind words! I really appreciate it! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
I dont want to sound annoying , but starting phrases with number models is confusing ... in this case , just start with 'i had a console with... ' and after 'if people want to know the model nr. is .... ' Still love you man keep it up , the world is a better place because of PLAP
The curves per EQ point on G10 is definitely more suited to a modern sound. The snare sound was less awful through the API, IMHO. I think better bands to compare on that example would have been 400hz and 8khz,if only so it was easier to discern via the YT video. BAE wins out based on the examples but really it's a toss up between a more traditional sounding eq shape and the ultra modern energy of the BAE' curves. Both are excellent eq' that add mass and excitement to a source.
Hi G.Michael Hall thanks for your great comment! I'm personally not a fan of 400hz in drums, that's all a matter of taste! I tend to either push around 100hz with API and I also love 220hz from a 1073! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing many Warren
I hate using nebulous phrases to describe sound, but the kick on the G10 sounded like it had a slight "grey haze" on it. Not lack of clarity, but a noticeable amount of "air" on it. I didn't dislike it - it was just in comparison to the 560. And like you said Warren, horses for courses - different tool, different result. Side note - listened to this video on "regular" computer speakers after first listening on my monitors, just for kicks (pun intended)... even after RUclips compression, there's a significant difference between the two. If you're not listening on at least some decent NF monitors, you're doing yourself a disservice.
Hi Stratomaster, thanks for your great comment! I appreciate your insight! Yes, definitely both are amazing! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing many thanks Warren
Hi Warren!!! would love to see how the capi vp26 would compare with these two beasts!! Suggestion for a video: Best Api for the money out there! i bet the capi vp (red dot) would sound amazing also... Thank you so much for the videos i´m learning a lot! Greetings from Portugal!!!!
Though I am a fan of 400hz in the snare especially when it's being hit unreasonably hard, but I had meant primarily for the translation of the audio test via YT, but I hear you...i guess I love that FUUUMPTAH !!¡! body of the snare blended with the 7.5-8.1khz that guys like Flood, Stent and Cenzo Townsend are known for. Ive just gotten bored with the amount of low frequency bandwidth given to the snare as late. But who knows, the bottom end on that G10 might change my feelings on that. Interesting you mentioned "bottom air".. That is where it's all at isn't it?! G10 is definitely an emotional(warm) EQ, wonderful sounding unit. Great vid mate
Hi G.Michael Hall thanks for your great comment and I higher! The BAE guys told me that the G10 has a transformer on the input stage which would explain a lot! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing many thanks Warren
Hi Eolas that's a great idea! I have a great relationship with Genelec! They would definitely give us some speakers for a great giveaway! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing many thanks Warren
Hi Joe, yes, I love both of them! Apparently I found out afterwards that the BAE has a transformer on the input stage! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing many thanks Warren
Great review, as expected. Thanks a lot for that. I love BAE stuff, superb craftsmanship, highest quality. I tried their 1073 emulation a few times, and it's really great. Now I use mostly the UAD Apollo software emulation which is... well... not that bad but, you know.... Can I be the winner for that EQ ? Pleaaaaaaase! Lol! Have a great day! ;-)
Warren go grab the free Voxengo SPAN free or Blue cat audio free plugin these are the best analyzers out there and it's FREE so you can see what is going on you can see the harmonics from any gear from a test oscillator weather it's hardware or plugins. You rock my friend! Have a great day! Cheers, Joe!
Hi KhronX, it's more fundamental than that, does it make the thing you're recording sound better to you? That's the main criteria. Super flat, transparent, non coloured etc are maybe good in some instances, however most of us love the coloration that hardware and of course software brings! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing many thanks Warren
Hi Daily Drum Lesson it stills sounds amazing! I just heard from BAE that the G10 has a transformer on the input stage, which probably makes a huge difference! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing many thanks Warren
Could somebody explain to a newb what the signal chain would look like in this case. I mean what is in between ProTools and the EQs (and where is the console) and how is it routed? I'd really appreciate it.
Hi Daniel, great question! Pro Tools is feeding the channels and the EQ is 'inserted' in the channel. I hope that clarifies! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
I use Cubase, and when I've done a mix ready to do an audio mixdown export, with intentions of loading that mixdown back into a mastering project, I'm sure the mixdown should be a WAV instead of MP3 right?, but what is the best setting for mix, y'know like 44 htz and 16 bit is ideal for a CD, but whats the best setting for the mixdown intended for later mastering and adding compression etc later on???, I know this question is off the subject, but nobody seems to cover this issue on YT???, thanks, hope you can help me.
Hi Rolla Coasta Ride great question! If you're using a Mastering Engineer then you keep the final files at the highest sample and bit rate. I would always master at the best quality possible. Ultimately it should end up as Wav File at 16 bit 44.1k for CD. Have a marvellous time recording, many thanks Warren
I hate to be "that guy" and I agree for the kick it did sound like it had more low end but is it just me or did the 560b 31hz never get reset and stayed that way through the bass test too?
Hi Jesus Vargas the 31hz was the same on both! Both sound amazing! It's not a matter of taste which you prefer! I hope you have a marvellous time recording and mixing many thanks Warren
Hi Mr Vin they both sound amazing! if you look at the 560 behind me you can see in background everything is set the same. I hope you're doing marvelously well! As I said my 560 is 'vintage' it's not a new one! I always thought it had a great bottom end and I mixed Aerosmith, Ace Frehley through it and love using the API 560 and will continue to use it! BAE are not giving me this at all! The only one I got is for a giveaway! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing many thanks Warren
Produce Like A Pro sorry but if you compare them both flat early in video to them flat at around 20 mins I'm sure you will see that the 31hz is still cut from the snare. You even touch it while saying it's flat. They do both sound great but the comparison is flawed from after the snare onward.
Hi Jon, the first part of the Bass test, you may not have noticed me saying it, but the EQ wasn't engaged. I did ask BAE why the level and bottom end would be so different, particularly in the Kick and they responded that the BAE has a transformer on the input stage. Have a marvellous time recording and mixing many thanks Warren
What're the odds some of the (electrolytic?) coupling capacitors in that ancient 560B have aged and reduced in value (pushing the high-pass filter frequency up)?
I guess some people just forget that old stuff ages (or is already aged), and that it probably didn't even sound close to how it sounds today... vintagemics
Hi KhronX very likely indeed! As I said it's not science at all! I will say I use this API 560 every day! I've used it on an Aerosmith Album and two Ace Frehley albums to name a few and loved it! BAE are not giving me this for free so I will be returning it and shipping the other one off to the lucky winner! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing many thanks Warren
Audio gear gets sold on the basis of "vibe" and "tone" and whatever anyway, not science :P And this is quite different than, say, comparing instruments, where the physical feel and manipulation can have great importance on the result. But if / since there's no science involved, i kinda fail to see the point of such comparisons, if i'm honest. "Here's how different two different pieces of gear sound" - see my point?
Hi KhronX I agree! That's why I was at pains to explain it was vintage! I'm still going to use it! I have it set exactly how I use it in a mix! I still love mine! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing many thanks Warren
I don't have a Twitter, a Facebook, What'sApp, Instagram, Flickr, Tumblr. I don't even have a TV! I have youtube, Very good cause there people post all their stuff, entertainment and knowledge. I need a very small EQ between my computer and my headphones because they are bass boosted grrr. Manufacturers think it sells. I'm using Audio Hijack pro on the system audio with a 10-band EQ on it to low-cut muddy speech and online music. It gives me latency so I have to turn it off while recording. Instead use an EQ on Logic's master that I can deactivate before bouncing. My headphones have good quality but for real orchestras! Not for artificial sub-electronic synths. ES2 can blow my head off if I'm unprepared. I would need to dail in an EQ to zero my headphones and let the music be untouched. That's one piece but It's harder for you cause you have to have dedicated gear for more or less every channel.
Hi JAE 818, it was cut only on the Bass at the very last two minutes! Eric edited in the wrong section, c'est la vie! The Kick and Snare both were exactly the same! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing many thanks Warren
Hi Finkle Terry that's ok! There's plenty of ways to enter! I wish you and everyone else the best of luck! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing many thanks Warren
Hi Andrea, great question! It's definitely great for tracking through and of course for inserting on a console! Also some people still love tactile controls and the individuality of each piece of equipment! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Hi Friends, In today's video, we are giving the G10 EQ a spin and compare it to my original vintage API 560 EQ, which is one of my favourite EQs for tracking and mixing drums and acoustic guitars. You can check out my review, see how the G10 compares to the API and enter the giveaway here: www.producelikeapro.com/2017/04/18/bae-g10-eq-giveaway-2/
Have a marvellous time recording and mixing many thanks Warren
I've always found the Waves 560 useful for quickly tailoring mono drum tracks and quite a number of instruments, such as keyboards (Rhodes particularly), Acoustic guitars, bass etc. I've entered the competition and have my fingers crossed for the real deal. I've always found the 560 helps me get what I want really quickly. Cheers!
Hi Poly, yes, I use the Waves 560 all of the time!! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing many thanks Warren
!!! The Bae stuff is great the eq is big but it does not touch the Api which to me it sounds more finished and like a record should sound but the Bae held its own against one of the best eq’s out there the Api 560 eq !!!!
Awesome being able to hear the difference! Signing up for the giveaway!
Thanks very much Eric!! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Hi Warren both gear is great but in my opinion 560 is better. Clarity is good. G10 for me is kind a overdriven. Though its really a matter of taste :) Have a nice day
Hi Angelo, thanks for your opinion! Yes, they are both fantastic! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing many thanks Warren
Nice! The 560 sounds like you would an API piece to sound: punchy, detailed in the midrange and with a bit more weight and a more euphonic high end than one would expect an SSL piece to sound. The G10 was (to me) more evocative of a Neve-ish piece of gear: the transients were rounded off, it had more bottom end, even smoother highs and I suspect that with the delicate test of EQing an acoustic guitar, you would get more satisfying results with it, getting more air out of it before it became harsh. Impressive! Thanks Warren! I'm off to sign up for the giveaway!
Hi noisesoundtonevibe, definitely! The API has an amazing midrange detail and the G10 has a wonderful low end! The transformer across the input stage makes a great difference I'm sure! Horses for courses, both sound great for different applications! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Had a chance to listen through my monitors today. The snare on the G10 benefited from the low mid thickness, but required more crack to balance the tone. The 560 sounded snappier and more open, but required more low mids. The kick sounded a bit punchier through the 560, but the extra balls of G10 would win me over; not too difficult to fix with more click. The girth of the G10 really comes into its own on bass; that one was a hands down BAE win. Both great pieces. Again, good luck everyone!
I agree! As many have said, the API has an amazing mid range! The BAE has a huge bottom end! Both do incredible things, so it's definitely horses for courses! Have a marvellous time recording, many thanks Warren
The 560 still sounds good because it’s also clipping the transients.
Nice video. The BAE G10 will be my next piece of expansion.
Of course I entered for the bae.Love their stuff.But special thanks for another multitrack to mix.Applicable mixing experience is like gold to me right now due to circumstances.Thanks for the gracious help
Hi brian bodie you're welcome! Glad to be able to help! I love that Little Empire track! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing many thanks Warren
Interesting comparison. When they were both on the kick and set "flat" I thought the G10 sounded a bit "tubby" or "flabby". After a bit of adjustment I thought it sounded better than the 560. Similar feeling with the snare, but not as pronounced to me (I like the "snap" of the API snare too).
Night and day difference on the bass. The G10 is much rounder
Thanks for sharing
Hi Demag thanks for your great comment! In a perfect world I would have both to compare them on each source and choose the best tool for the job! My 560 is vintage so it's not a direct comparison to a new one! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing many Warren
Hi Warren. I absolutely LOVE your channel and videos. You offer a wealth of knowledge and deliver it in such pleasing, positive, and professional way. This morning I posted a link to one of your voice recording tutorials on a couple of Facebook groups I belong to and others are loving it too. Hope you see at least a small influx of subscribers today. Thank you very kindly for your amazing contributions!!
Hi AntiDot70, thank you ever so much for incredibly kind words! I really appreciate it! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Great video as always Warren! I hope to achieve your level of quality and content someday with my channel! Thanks for the inspiration!
Hi Pitch Down Producer thanks for the wonderful complement! I wish you all the best! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing many thanks Warren
I dont want to sound annoying , but starting phrases with number models is confusing ...
in this case , just start with 'i had a console with... ' and after 'if people want to know the model nr. is .... '
Still love you man keep it up , the world is a better place because of PLAP
Absolutely! I was just using their model numbers to describe! Have a marvellous time recording, many thanks Warren
One thing that could help you out quantifying the 'warmness' could be Waves Q-clone. Keep up the great work, Warren!
Thanks for the tip! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
The curves per EQ point on G10 is definitely more suited to a modern sound. The snare sound was less awful through the API, IMHO. I think better bands to compare on that example would have been 400hz and 8khz,if only so it was easier to discern via the YT video. BAE wins out based on the examples but really it's a toss up between a more traditional sounding eq shape and the ultra modern energy of the BAE' curves. Both are excellent eq' that add mass and excitement to a source.
Hi G.Michael Hall thanks for your great comment! I'm personally not a fan of 400hz in drums, that's all a matter of taste! I tend to either push around 100hz with API and I also love 220hz from a 1073! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing many Warren
Hi Warren. I'm learning a lot from your channel. Thank you so much for making these videos! More power and blessings to you and your family. =)
Thanks very much!! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing many thanks Warren
I hate using nebulous phrases to describe sound, but the kick on the G10 sounded like it had a slight "grey haze" on it. Not lack of clarity, but a noticeable amount of "air" on it. I didn't dislike it - it was just in comparison to the 560. And like you said Warren, horses for courses - different tool, different result.
Side note - listened to this video on "regular" computer speakers after first listening on my monitors, just for kicks (pun intended)... even after RUclips compression, there's a significant difference between the two. If you're not listening on at least some decent NF monitors, you're doing yourself a disservice.
Hi Stratomaster, thanks for your great comment! I appreciate your insight! Yes, definitely both are amazing! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing many thanks Warren
Thank you for this opportunity.
You're very welcome Ramon! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing many thanks Warren
Hi Warren!!! would love to see how the capi vp26 would compare with these two beasts!! Suggestion for a video: Best Api for the money out there! i bet the capi vp (red dot) would sound amazing also... Thank you so much for the videos i´m learning a lot! Greetings from Portugal!!!!
That's a fantastic idea!! Have fun in beautiful Portugal!! Have a marvellous time recording, many thanks Warren
Though I am a fan of 400hz in the snare especially when it's being hit unreasonably hard, but I had meant primarily for the translation of the audio test via YT, but I hear you...i guess I love that FUUUMPTAH !!¡! body of the snare blended with the 7.5-8.1khz that guys like Flood, Stent and Cenzo Townsend are known for. Ive just gotten bored with the amount of low frequency bandwidth given to the snare as late. But who knows, the bottom end on that G10 might change my feelings on that. Interesting you mentioned "bottom air".. That is where it's all at isn't it?! G10 is definitely an emotional(warm) EQ, wonderful sounding unit. Great vid mate
Hi G.Michael Hall thanks for your great comment and I higher! The BAE guys told me that the G10 has a transformer on the input stage which would explain a lot! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing many thanks Warren
I really enjoyed this video Warren, can you make a similar video with 500 vca and/or fet compressors?
Hi Sebastian, definitely! I live making these kinds of videos! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
It sounds SO good. Goodbye Waves 560 haha
Haha Ilan Benitah best of luck to you and everyone else! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing many thanks Warren
The next giveaway should be the new Focal Shape series, i heard they sound great and the flax speaker makes them really original! :)
Hi Eolas that's a great idea! I have a great relationship with Genelec! They would definitely give us some speakers for a great giveaway! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing many thanks Warren
It's a noticeable difference. As you said definitely component based (pun intended) Great hearing them side by side. Thanks as always Warren.
Hi Joe, yes, I love both of them! Apparently I found out afterwards that the BAE has a transformer on the input stage! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing many thanks Warren
They Sound Great! Crossing Fingers for the contest! 😆
Hi Joe Pacheco best of luck to you and everyone else! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing many thanks Warren
Great review, as expected. Thanks a lot for that. I love BAE stuff, superb craftsmanship, highest quality. I tried their 1073 emulation a few times, and it's really great. Now I use mostly the UAD Apollo software emulation which is... well... not that bad but, you know.... Can I be the winner for that EQ ? Pleaaaaaaase! Lol! Have a great day! ;-)
Haha Enter to win Claudius! I wish you and everyone else the best of luck! Have a marvellous time recording, many thanks Warren
I’m hearing more headroom with the G❤❤10
Great stuff!Never used eq like this, but who knows...? :)
Hi Mihail! Yes, enter to win! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Warren go grab the free Voxengo SPAN free or Blue cat audio free plugin these are the best analyzers out there and it's FREE so you can see what is going on you can see the harmonics from any gear from a test oscillator weather it's hardware or plugins. You rock my friend! Have a great day! Cheers, Joe!
Nah, what's the use? Audio gear gets sold on the basis of "vibe" and "tone" and whatever, not science :P
Thanks Music Factory Studios! I will definitely check that out! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing many thanks Warren
Hi KhronX, it's more fundamental than that, does it make the thing you're recording sound better to you? That's the main criteria. Super flat, transparent, non coloured etc are maybe good in some instances, however most of us love the coloration that hardware and of course software brings! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing many thanks Warren
Yeah the G10 sounds beefier...even via RUclips. Cheers Warren; as always, much appreciated :D
Hi Arthur, I like both! I'm still using my API on the kick! I love it! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing many thanks Warren
Crossing my fingers, while holding a cross across holy water to boost my chances of winning this G10 EQ Giveaway
Hi Sleepless Weekends best of luck to you and everyone else!! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing many thanks Warren
Thank you brother
Hi Sleepless Weekends you're very welcome! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing many thanks Warren
You bought a new camera didn't you? Or you did get better at colorgrading! Looks better like that.
Hi Pascal Clerotte haha I didn't! But I think Eric did a great job with this video!! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing many thanks Warren
I really wanted to like the 560 better, but I didn't. haha
Hi Daily Drum Lesson it stills sounds amazing! I just heard from BAE that the G10 has a transformer on the input stage, which probably makes a huge difference! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing many thanks Warren
Could somebody explain to a newb what the signal chain would look like in this case. I mean what is in between ProTools and the EQs (and where is the console) and how is it routed? I'd really appreciate it.
Hi Daniel, great question! Pro Tools is feeding the channels and the EQ is 'inserted' in the channel. I hope that clarifies! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
thanks for the reply
You're very welcome Andrea! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing many thanks Warren
Great review, thanks for the giveaway.
Thanks very much!! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing many thanks Warren
I use Cubase, and when I've done a mix ready to do an audio mixdown export, with intentions of loading that mixdown back into a mastering project, I'm sure the mixdown should be a WAV instead of MP3 right?, but what is the best setting for mix, y'know like 44 htz and 16 bit is ideal for a CD, but whats the best setting for the mixdown intended for later mastering and adding compression etc later on???, I know this question is off the subject, but nobody seems to cover this issue on YT???, thanks, hope you can help me.
Hi Rolla Coasta Ride great question! If you're using a Mastering Engineer then you keep the final files at the highest sample and bit rate. I would always master at the best quality possible. Ultimately it should end up as Wav File at 16 bit 44.1k for CD. Have a marvellous time recording, many thanks Warren
thanks for the reply
I hate to be "that guy" and I agree for the kick it did sound like it had more low end but is it just me or did the 560b 31hz never get reset and stayed that way through the bass test too?
Hi Jesus Vargas the 31hz was the same on both! Both sound amazing! It's not a matter of taste which you prefer! I hope you have a marvellous time recording and mixing many thanks Warren
Yep, he "forgot" to reset it.
Hi Mr Vin they both sound amazing! if you look at the 560 behind me you can see in background everything is set the same. I hope you're doing marvelously well! As I said my 560 is 'vintage' it's not a new one! I always thought it had a great bottom end and I mixed Aerosmith, Ace Frehley through it and love using the API 560 and will continue to use it! BAE are not giving me this at all! The only one I got is for a giveaway! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing many thanks Warren
Produce Like A Pro sorry but if you compare them both flat early in video to them flat at around 20 mins I'm sure you will see that the 31hz is still cut from the snare. You even touch it while saying it's flat. They do both sound great but the comparison is flawed from after the snare onward.
Hi Jon, the first part of the Bass test, you may not have noticed me saying it, but the EQ wasn't engaged. I did ask BAE why the level and bottom end would be so different, particularly in the Kick and they responded that the BAE has a transformer on the input stage. Have a marvellous time recording and mixing many thanks Warren
I Wonder how these graphic EQs sound on the entire drum kit?
What're the odds some of the (electrolytic?) coupling capacitors in that ancient 560B have aged and reduced in value (pushing the high-pass filter frequency up)?
Very legitimate point!
I guess some people just forget that old stuff ages (or is already aged), and that it probably didn't even sound close to how it sounds today... vintagemics
Hi KhronX very likely indeed! As I said it's not science at all! I will say I use this API 560 every day! I've used it on an Aerosmith Album and two Ace Frehley albums to name a few and loved it! BAE are not giving me this for free so I will be returning it and shipping the other one off to the lucky winner! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing many thanks Warren
Audio gear gets sold on the basis of "vibe" and "tone" and whatever anyway, not science :P And this is quite different than, say, comparing instruments, where the physical feel and manipulation can have great importance on the result.
But if / since there's no science involved, i kinda fail to see the point of such comparisons, if i'm honest.
"Here's how different two different pieces of gear sound" - see my point?
Hi KhronX I agree! That's why I was at pains to explain it was vintage! I'm still going to use it! I have it set exactly how I use it in a mix! I still love mine! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing many thanks Warren
I don't have a Twitter, a Facebook, What'sApp, Instagram, Flickr, Tumblr. I don't even have a TV! I have youtube, Very good cause there people post all their stuff, entertainment and knowledge. I need a very small EQ between my computer and my headphones because they are bass boosted grrr. Manufacturers think it sells. I'm using Audio Hijack pro on the system audio with a 10-band EQ on it to low-cut muddy speech and online music. It gives me latency so I have to turn it off while recording. Instead use an EQ on Logic's master that I can deactivate before bouncing.
My headphones have good quality but for real orchestras! Not for artificial sub-electronic synths. ES2 can blow my head off if I'm unprepared. I would need to dail in an EQ to zero my headphones and let the music be untouched. That's one piece but It's harder for you cause you have to have dedicated gear for more or less every channel.
Thanks for your great comment and wonderful insight! Have a marvellous time recording, many thanks Warren
entered go well my new studio im building
I wish you and everyone else all the best!! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
good entertainment Warren ;-)
Hi Mario Maslik thanks very much! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Aaaand bought a G10...
nice review man! keep it up :)
-Overtone
Thanks very much! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
the 560 had less bass because you had the 31K cut on the 560 most of the video!
Hi JAE 818, it was cut only on the Bass at the very last two minutes! Eric edited in the wrong section, c'est la vie! The Kick and Snare both were exactly the same! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing many thanks Warren
P.S. I'm using the API still, I LOVE it on Kick! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing many thanks Warren
Whoop!
Thanks Steve! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing many thanks Warren
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Hi Finkle Terry that's ok! There's plenty of ways to enter! I wish you and everyone else the best of luck! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing many thanks Warren
API 560 sounds 70s, BAE sounds 90s...lol
No science involved in this ...HAHA
haha no not all!! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
why do we need a real eq if we already have one in our daw?
To many people the hardware sounds better; also possible to use in non-DAW systems or for tracking.
Because More is better ;) plus you can always track through it.
Hi Andrea, great question! It's definitely great for tracking through and of course for inserting on a console! Also some people still love tactile controls and the individuality of each piece of equipment! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
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Hi Air Vox nice thanks! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing many thanks Warren