there is a Nuc with an Arc A770M and i7 12700H, i think that model is more interesting than this frankly. It may be less powerful, but way more quiet, cooler and smaller too.
I'm planning on putting an A7070 limited in something like this. I might pick up one of these with the minimum CPU spec an move my 13700K over to that.
i usually dont care about prebuilt stuff but this...this is pretty sick. they really crammed A LOT in there and it looks like it will actually stay relatively cool with all that ventilation
You’re right but it’s still a huge waste of money considering you could build a cheaper PC in a Lian Li A4-H2O and even liquid cool it. This PC is a huge waste of money for people that know how to build mini itx PCs. I want to think most people that watch this channel know how to build a PC. You can do so much better than this thing.
@@Jrfeimst2 meshlicious is super easy to build in and stays cool af. Dan A4 is nice but I'd recommend meshlicious as it has better support and more room to build in.
@@Jrfeimst2 yes absolutely, it's always cheaper and all around better to DIY but for what is basically a turnkey SFF build, I like the direction they took
I think if you're getting up to this size then the added expense of the add-in card plus tight restriction on power supply really only appeal to new builders that aren't comfortable working in ITX. With the CM NR200 and now the Lian Li Q58, there are plenty of high performance mini cases that will let you upgrade the motherboard for a decade to come.
And even if you want something this small, there are plenty cases that are about this size but use ITX and riser cables... and use the same SFX PSU. The Sandwich ITX such as DAN A4 come to mind, of course.
It's a really cool case and build, but you gotta throw a 13600k into this and see if it can keep up. The power limit and the thermal throttling is definitely making me question if the 13900k is a good idea, so it'd be interesting to see if you actually get anything from it instead of a cheaper choice.
That is pretty neat! While I personally will stick to full size desktops, it is really nice to see a small form factor with the potential for similar performance to full size desktops!
The case alone is AWESOME! Sneaky small form factor and proprietary cases modified to make modern gaming PC's has been such an appeal to me. Very cool product on form alone.
I honestly think Mini-ITX boards and cases are the way of the future. Small Form Factor without compromising functionality is what makes these builds so appealing. The Evolv-ITX, Shift2, and ShiftXT cases are in a league of their own, especially compared to the old Antec900 cases that we loved so much back in the day.
I am all for ITX but do not say "without comprimising functionality" so easily. The other user already mentioned what is missing. The missing PCI-e slots and USB ports are the biggest downside to ITX formfactor
The size reminds me of the old optiplex we all used to have at our schools, imagine having a room full of *that* as an optiplex type machine, that would have been great when I had CAD classes
I’ve really wanted one of these for just our basic home use and kid’s use PC. Little over kill, but given our gaming rig, it’s really a lot more practical 😂 Thank you for the break down, Jay 💜
I’d wanna see a second video of this NUC where you not only replace the GPU and PSU with a 4090 FE and V1300 SFX Platinum and the original fans with Noctua airflow fans, but also undervolt BOTH the CPU and the GPU to see how much more performance can be squeezed out of that tiny unit!
This looks perfect, I have been planning my next build to be a 13600K and I've already started buying parts. This would make it super simple. I just need it to come in around 1100 USD to make sense for me.
I use this computers all the time in automation. They are great to install in large electrical cabinets as servers or to run hmi for industrial systems.
Foxconn used to make *the best* fans back in the 90s/early 2000. I worked in a machine shop with computers that literally drowned in cutting oil, and we replaced all sleeve fans with Foxconn barring fans after they failed. Sleeves would last ~4 months, Foxconn fans would occasionally clog with a metallic grit from the cutting machines, but could be washed with dielectric degreaser and put back into service. (we actually washed PCs this way, but used a air chamber to dry them for a day before returning to service)
I'm actually looking into ether building a pc from scratch or upgrading stuff on my current built old desktop. before watching this vid i wanted it large but now i kind of like that size, cute, beter cooling potential than a laptop, can still get decent performance yet still portable. I'm going to add it to my list of options to look into, thanks for this review.
this is what i often lack with non server chasis of bigger size: just making the most of everything... I so hate that those acrylic or tempered glass sidepanels basically become so standard that it is a pain to find a Case that you can use that space to put on fans for example, this just shoes what making the most of the space looks like and a pretty neat thermal design too... though you ll need enough space on both sides so intake and exhaust work... kinda wonder what distance the sides should at least have to the next wall
It's pretty cool and I can appreciate how much thought Intel put into the design and airflow of it... that being said, as much as I enjoy the SFF world, I feel you could probably put together an ITX system that's both smaller and more performant for what will probably be the same price, or less. That being said, as a prebuilt "SFF" PC, this is pretty darn cool.
Yeah, this is amazing. I love seeing these nuc kits. I would love to see a full out SFF nuc with all desktop parts with pre installed waterblocks and a small external water cooling solution.
Excellent review as always with practical insight. I've done 7 itx builds in tiny cases and this really appeals to me. Quality engineering solutions in this case.
If you're planning to upgrade it you're also willing to manage some screws, cables and plugs. So I'll say the price has to compete with the same specs on an NR200 that will give you full desktop performance just adding a few fans.
I think these small form factor computers are pretty cool. My first forte with small form factor was a Corsair Obsidian 250D, which isn't exactly a small form factor.
I think this is approachable for a variety of people given its size, I've always rathered PC's over laptop's but if you had this and a monitor set-up it's pretty portable and good for gaming
Looks nice, an advantage compared to regular builds could be lower idle power consumption. Would be nice if this information could be measured and shared.
Actually a 4090 FE would work, it fits without any trouble, and all you need to do is simply use a sea sonic 12VHPWR cable instead of the provided one. Although it sucks for not having a 850w GPU and 450w output
Just like last video, cool as it is i cant get over how i could build an ITX PC for less than half the cost. Always build if ya can folks! The inside of ur PC is not as scary as it looks.
I know you're not a fan of the geforce experience app, but it's really convenient, at least for me. You can clean install drivers, monitor your gpu performace, clip/record games, overclock your gpu, and you can also set your fan speeds on it on the go, all in one application.
I am now extremely interested in getting the i7 version of this because I think thermals would be much better for the i7 part (less wattage to the CPU) and maybe slot in an AMD 7900 XTX GPU for all out gaming. I love tiny powerful computers.
I immediatly went to find the price because i was interested in building a 13th gen sysytem and WOAH. The 13600k version is $1400. Its really cool but a little too expensive for my taste.
You should test it with a 13600K and see if that cpu is also limited with it being a lower tdp. Also maybe you should an awesome custom case mod with this system, be awesome to see something like an imperial land tank like a Jawas use or something just cool with it
I'm definetly going to pick up an Intel NUC as my second PC. They are really doing great things with these systems. Slap a 3090 or 3080Ti in it and it'll be a fantastic little second rig.
Am I the only one really diggin’ the passion and determination that Jay put’s in his adds? 🤣🤣 Like lightning McQueen with RustEaze. All jokes aside, loved this unpacking/showcase!!
i love it... but i also like huge.. i have a core X9 thermaltake case right now... but would love a small form factor like this!! simple- useful - easy to clean i'd think.
For a pre-built it's ok but surely there are already smaller as the majority of decent itx cases are smaller. I'd be interested too see where that CPU cooler lands in terms of performance, allowing unimpeded passthrough in a non-aio format is interesting.
I think this will satisfy a lot of people's needs and might even be a great option to take for editing videos when you travel. Depending if it compares to the laptop you usually take for events. With a portable display or two or three LOL it might beat the laptop. With the thermal throttling and form factor cooling limits, do you think that it is best to just get a system with a i5 and just enjoy it's performance?
Definitely interesting when thinking about landfill waste and businesses. If all you have to do is swap out that NUC module and keep the rest, could be amazing
I build my NUC with a BeQuiet cooler Shadow Rock TF2 CPU cooler, with an i7 11th gen, in January this year, and is much smaller than that case. Strangely engineered. And I have a RTX 3070 in it and an extra powered USB3 interface PCIe 1x
Oooh, I have a small form factor PC project and wanted to go all Intel. This might be a good base to start with. Hopefully they have SKUs with Arc video cards.
I would think with as large as this is, they could have gotten close to the full performance of the cpu on desktop. there are small form factor cases around that size that can fit itx boards, and depending on how well you can cool it, they dont lose performance compared to a full desktop
It sure has some benefits if you are low on Battlestation estate... but I prefer cases where I can get in up to my elbows and have space working in and for airflow and silence. currently running my 3rd Define XL R2.
I could see newer people after SFF going this route. Building SFF yourself requires a lot of compatibility checking to ensure everything will fit. This makes it so people only need to make sure the GPU will fit. I'll stick with my Meshlicious though. I have an overclocked 12700k and 3080ti in that thing and it isn't any louder than most standard sized builds.
Smaller form factors are definitely more and more appealing to me. We have a 10 month old and I'm trying to reduce my footprint in the house, but like the idea of having some good power. Not sure if this exact model would be the one, but it's inspiring
well, there is a model with an i7 12700H and A770M that should give a slightly better performance to the one you are asking, being way smaller than this one.
@@javiej the smallet you can get for that is an Mini ITX, but the most common "gaming" Nucs are even smaller than Mini ITX. You are right with the cost issue though, these little machines always have been kinda expensive compared to what can you get at that price.
@@Just_An_Ignacio Yes by my point is: if you only want i5+3060 performance this NUC is much bigger than needed. You can do that with a small ITX case like the NZXT H1 V2 (405 x 196 x 196 mm) which is much smaller and cheaper. Or you could use an even smaller NUC (as you mentioned ) such as the previous NUC 12th extreme, which is even smaller than the H1 (but more expensive). Both options can accommodate up to a 3080 no problem. So then what is the point of this new design? if it is bigger than previous model you would expect going for bigger GPUs than the 3080, but it can't. Because the 4080 does not fit in this new design. So in terms of SFF value this model is bigger than the previous model for no useful reason.
I think I prefer a mini ITX build in something like the Coolermaster NR200 over this since that'll be cheaper and able to use more standard components while really not being much larger at all.
Bare bones were what you got from Fry's and had to return like 4 times to get functioning components. . . Oh the days of reliable hardware in the late 90's and early 00's.
I love NUCs, and this looks like a great one. I wonder though, if the 13900k is so hamstrung by power delivery like that, would the 13700k even perform any worse? It makes me think it's more like laptop GPUs, where the wattage is often more important than the model number of the card (130W 3070 vs 90W 3080, for example). The 13700k should have no problems taking advantage of even the "boosted" 160W in this unit.
watching this again, and having a rtx 4080 FE (don't hate me) I could reasonably water-cool both the CPU and GPU in that case using slim Rads, 120mm rad up top, 240mm-360mm on the bottom, or maybe a vertical 240 with some slim fans where the Foxconn fans are. This generation NUC Extreme is kind of cool in my opinion. The RX7900 XT/XTX would be beast in there!
Impressive performance considering the size. My case is probably 5x bigger, and only offers 20% or so more performance (though probably better acoustics) with my current parts. That's no issue at all if one has the space for it though.
First pc I built was from a barebones kit but it was not assembled and came with a graphics card that wasn't great but good enough. Had to get ram instead of the graphics. Was amd black edition everything. The mother board still looks better then most made today
I had Shuttle SN-something way back when. Loved that case! Now I have a CM NR200... but I wish it would support two 280 radiators... Maybe I should have picked a Loque (Loki) Ghost? And two 280's because of NZXT Kraken G12.
I can't run modern warfare hardly on my potato. Had a new computer in Amazon set up for very long time, up dated recently to ddr5. My current pc in a 2500k intel 7900hd amd. Life happens and has been pushing it back. 😮💨
It'll probably help people with limited space, and or who are looking for the small pc aesthetic? It seems like a well made project, it's very promising
If there is an extra fan connector you could mount a 90mm fan on the CPU fan black, not ? With magnets is should hold on the CPU fins on the left side of the compute element.
I got the Canvas 27Q monitor when there was a major sale and I think they're pretty good. Are there better IPS panels out there sure but for the price I got this monitor at it was a steal.
The NUC 13 is pretty neat, and cooler than I thought, but depending on the price and the lack of upgrade/replacement ability on the "motherboard" make me nervous. However, I would like to see a skinny and slightly taller form facor like the H1 with a top mounted exhaust fan similarly to the series x. But with a NUC motherboard and a riser cable that would give more room for a slightly higher wattage psu and aio liquid cooler (240/360) depending on how highly spec'd the CPU is and how tall the case needs to be to squeeze a 4080 in it :D Also compared to the NUC's cables sticking straight out the back, the H1's bottom/back routed cables gives a cleaner/sleeker look when sitting on the side of the desk next to the monitors.
I would consider it if a 1000w psu was available and the price was about the same as an equivalent tower. If want a smaller form factor, at this point its going to be looking at portable pc like the steam deck.
I love the idea of so much power taking up exactly the amount of space needed and not a bit more. I can't explain why this is so satisfying, I just know that I want more sff builds.
Imagine building a small form factor just to run a 13900k at almost half clock speeds... I don't see how its so satisfying to see a pc overheat, throttle down, and pay more than regular atx builds...
@@ScubaMotos that specific PC isn't a good example, but as someone who's running a Lian Li Q58 with an i7 10700 and a 6700XT under water that never goes over 70C on the CPU and 65 on the GPU with only a 240mm radiator, I'm telling you it's worth it. My PC isn't impressive in specs, but the case isn't maxed out. A 280mm would fit, and with a bit better fans you could easily fit a 5800x3d and 6950XT in there without issues.
@@ScubaMotos yeah this isn't a good mini itx build. The build I mentioned in my other comment runs great at full spec. It's when manufactures smash stuff together to much that you lose performance. Custom mini itx doesn't usually have this issue.
I prefer the sff type stuff mini itx I can't see going back to full size or even matx all you need anymore is a single pcie slot that's found on most itx boards everything else is on board only reason for bigger builds is to oc and have that extra space for custom loop and bling
Damn I wish I could afford this, but when Jay said it’s gonna be pricey I already know it’s out of my price range. It’s legit the perfect pc I need for travel. Maybe someday…
I second what Ezanee said. I built an SFFPC with guidance from that sub. Full desktop power and fits in a carry on with room for lots of padding and cables
@@jesh879 hey thanks! Yeah. I built a PC for carrying to work & travel, not the latest & greatest but within my means. Important to not get a case of FOMO when it comes to parts too. Can always upgrade if opportunity presents itself.
Hi Jay. At 12:52 when you tried to max out the timer window, if you try to change the dynamic power setting (wich is on Energy Efficient Mode), can you change the time window then?
For something that big I'd rather go with an ITX build on the Dan-A4-H2O. The NUC was more about portability, so the "Enthusiast" is a better option than the "Extreme".
So powerful the shipping case has crashed and is stuck in a boot loop. hundreds of years from now this shipping case will still be giving off this strange mystic sound that must be ceremonial.
Hey, Jay!; Man, you so NEED a pinwheel on a stick or a straw. You hold it in the airflow to demonstrate how much air a fan/device moves. I know, you've always got a paper towel or other paper you can use. But a pinwheel is cheap, it works pretty good for showing airflow, & it's fun, too! Have a GREAT day, Neighbor!
Kind of surprising they didn't put an Arc GPU in there.
there is a Nuc with an Arc A770M and i7 12700H, i think that model is more interesting than this frankly. It may be less powerful, but way more quiet, cooler and smaller too.
@@Just_An_Ignacio That is the Intel Serpent Canyon
I'm planning on putting an A7070 limited in something like this. I might pick up one of these with the minimum CPU spec an move my 13700K over to that.
I thought so too, but then realized they'd have to change the slogan on the box to "Fast just got Slower".
They want it to reliably run games well.
i usually dont care about prebuilt stuff but this...this is pretty sick. they really crammed A LOT in there and it looks like it will actually stay relatively cool with all that ventilation
my words exactly
there's a difference between the prebuilts of walmart and intel itself
You’re right but it’s still a huge waste of money considering you could build a cheaper PC in a Lian Li A4-H2O and even liquid cool it. This PC is a huge waste of money for people that know how to build mini itx PCs. I want to think most people that watch this channel know how to build a PC. You can do so much better than this thing.
@@Jrfeimst2 meshlicious is super easy to build in and stays cool af. Dan A4 is nice but I'd recommend meshlicious as it has better support and more room to build in.
@@Jrfeimst2 yes absolutely, it's always cheaper and all around better to DIY but for what is basically a turnkey SFF build, I like the direction they took
I think if you're getting up to this size then the added expense of the add-in card plus tight restriction on power supply really only appeal to new builders that aren't comfortable working in ITX. With the CM NR200 and now the Lian Li Q58, there are plenty of high performance mini cases that will let you upgrade the motherboard for a decade to come.
And even if you want something this small, there are plenty cases that are about this size but use ITX and riser cables... and use the same SFX PSU. The Sandwich ITX such as DAN A4 come to mind, of course.
I couldn't agree more with your first statement.
That's what i thought, and this isn't even that small.
Not to mention you can slap an AIO in a CM NR200 and DAN A4.
It's a really cool case and build, but you gotta throw a 13600k into this and see if it can keep up. The power limit and the thermal throttling is definitely making me question if the 13900k is a good idea, so it'd be interesting to see if you actually get anything from it instead of a cheaper choice.
That is pretty neat! While I personally will stick to full size desktops, it is really nice to see a small form factor with the potential for similar performance to full size desktops!
The case alone is AWESOME! Sneaky small form factor and proprietary cases modified to make modern gaming PC's has been such an appeal to me. Very cool product on form alone.
That tagline deserves a,
"That's what she said!"
I honestly think Mini-ITX boards and cases are the way of the future. Small Form Factor without compromising functionality is what makes these builds so appealing. The Evolv-ITX, Shift2, and ShiftXT cases are in a league of their own, especially compared to the old Antec900 cases that we loved so much back in the day.
Less USB, Less SATA, less PCI-E, less M.2 SATA port. run at 100%. No problem, it has failsafe. 😄
I am all for ITX but do not say "without comprimising functionality" so easily. The other user already mentioned what is missing. The missing PCI-e slots and USB ports are the biggest downside to ITX formfactor
The size reminds me of the old optiplex we all used to have at our schools, imagine having a room full of *that* as an optiplex type machine, that would have been great when I had CAD classes
I’ve really wanted one of these for just our basic home use and kid’s use PC. Little over kill, but given our gaming rig, it’s really a lot more practical 😂 Thank you for the break down, Jay 💜
I’d wanna see a second video of this NUC where you not only replace the GPU and PSU with a 4090 FE and V1300 SFX Platinum and the original fans with Noctua airflow fans, but also undervolt BOTH the CPU and the GPU to see how much more performance can be squeezed out of that tiny unit!
This looks perfect, I have been planning my next build to be a 13600K and I've already started buying parts. This would make it super simple. I just need it to come in around 1100 USD to make sense for me.
The Meshlicious or Meshroom is a case with a similar size desk footprint. My 13600K stays nice and cool. Fairly easy to build in as well.
@@lukelayton1028 I wish the meshroom d would come out
Your in luck then its 1179 with i5
I believe it's supposed to be somewhere between 1100 and 1200 for a 13600k.
@@markus.schiefer NUC 13 Extreme Kit will range from $1179to $1549
It's finally happened
The cpu slots into the GPU
I use this computers all the time in automation. They are great to install in large electrical cabinets as servers or to run hmi for industrial systems.
Foxconn used to make *the best* fans back in the 90s/early 2000. I worked in a machine shop with computers that literally drowned in cutting oil, and we replaced all sleeve fans with Foxconn barring fans after they failed. Sleeves would last ~4 months, Foxconn fans would occasionally clog with a metallic grit from the cutting machines, but could be washed with dielectric degreaser and put back into service. (we actually washed PCs this way, but used a air chamber to dry them for a day before returning to service)
I'm actually looking into ether building a pc from scratch or upgrading stuff on my current built old desktop. before watching this vid i wanted it large but now i kind of like that size, cute, beter cooling potential than a laptop, can still get decent performance yet still portable. I'm going to add it to my list of options to look into, thanks for this review.
this is what i often lack with non server chasis of bigger size: just making the most of everything... I so hate that those acrylic or tempered glass sidepanels basically become so standard that it is a pain to find a Case that you can use that space to put on fans for example, this just shoes what making the most of the space looks like and a pretty neat thermal design too... though you ll need enough space on both sides so intake and exhaust work... kinda wonder what distance the sides should at least have to the next wall
It's amazing, with everything they fit into it, they still were able to add a voice activated power on feature! 5:47
For those wanting a good gaming rig but do not want to build themselves and save some space, this is such a great option.
It's pretty cool and I can appreciate how much thought Intel put into the design and airflow of it... that being said, as much as I enjoy the SFF world, I feel you could probably put together an ITX system that's both smaller and more performant for what will probably be the same price, or less. That being said, as a prebuilt "SFF" PC, this is pretty darn cool.
Fry's Electronics in SoCal used to sell these types of bare bones PC's in the late 90s/early 2000s. Was an awesome store to visit as a tech person.
I would have loved to have seen a combined load with GPU and CPU loops to really see how heat soak works.
Yeah, this is amazing. I love seeing these nuc kits. I would love to see a full out SFF nuc with all desktop parts with pre installed waterblocks and a small external water cooling solution.
Excellent review as always with practical insight. I've done 7 itx builds in tiny cases and this really appeals to me. Quality engineering solutions in this case.
If you're planning to upgrade it you're also willing to manage some screws, cables and plugs. So I'll say the price has to compete with the same specs on an NR200 that will give you full desktop performance just adding a few fans.
I think these small form factor computers are pretty cool. My first forte with small form factor was a Corsair Obsidian 250D, which isn't exactly a small form factor.
I really like the idea of all sided ventilation cases. Just makes sense.
I think this is approachable for a variety of people given its size, I've always rathered PC's over laptop's but if you had this and a monitor set-up it's pretty portable and good for gaming
Thats really sick. Wish the CPU could draw a bit closer to is actual power limit. Also, toss some noctua fans in there and could be a beast!
From now on when intel states anything:
* magical intel sounds *
Looks nice, an advantage compared to regular builds could be lower idle power consumption. Would be nice if this information could be measured and shared.
Interesting to see this particular compact design. Thanks, JayZ - and crew!
I agree! His name is Jay though. The other one is more famous for hip hop than tech reviews. :)
Actually a 4090 FE would work, it fits without any trouble, and all you need to do is simply use a sea sonic 12VHPWR cable instead of the provided one. Although it sucks for not having a 850w GPU and 450w output
I agree 100%
Just like last video, cool as it is i cant get over how i could build an ITX PC for less than half the cost. Always build if ya can folks! The inside of ur PC is not as scary as it looks.
I know you're not a fan of the geforce experience app, but it's really convenient, at least for me. You can clean install drivers, monitor your gpu performace, clip/record games, overclock your gpu, and you can also set your fan speeds on it on the go, all in one application.
I am now extremely interested in getting the i7 version of this because I think thermals would be much better for the i7 part (less wattage to the CPU) and maybe slot in an AMD 7900 XTX GPU for all out gaming. I love tiny powerful computers.
I immediatly went to find the price because i was interested in building a 13th gen sysytem and WOAH. The 13600k version is $1400. Its really cool but a little too expensive for my taste.
You should test it with a 13600K and see if that cpu is also limited with it being a lower tdp. Also maybe you should an awesome custom case mod with this system, be awesome to see something like an imperial land tank like a Jawas use or something just cool with it
That CPU cooler design is very interesting and I honestly love the idea behind it. It's so weird but it seems to work quite well.
I'm definetly going to pick up an Intel NUC as my second PC. They are really doing great things with these systems. Slap a 3090 or 3080Ti in it and it'll be a fantastic little second rig.
Am I the only one really diggin’ the passion and determination that Jay put’s in his adds? 🤣🤣 Like lightning McQueen with RustEaze.
All jokes aside, loved this unpacking/showcase!!
This is one of those use cases where I want to know if a lower performance CPU would have been better because of the restricted cooling
i love it... but i also like huge.. i have a core X9 thermaltake case right now... but would love a small form factor like this!! simple- useful - easy to clean i'd think.
For a pre-built it's ok but surely there are already smaller as the majority of decent itx cases are smaller. I'd be interested too see where that CPU cooler lands in terms of performance, allowing unimpeded passthrough in a non-aio format is interesting.
I think this will satisfy a lot of people's needs and might even be a great option to take for editing videos when you travel. Depending if it compares to the laptop you usually take for events. With a portable display or two or three LOL it might beat the laptop. With the thermal throttling and form factor cooling limits, do you think that it is best to just get a system with a i5 and just enjoy it's performance?
Definitely interesting when thinking about landfill waste and businesses. If all you have to do is swap out that NUC module and keep the rest, could be amazing
I build my NUC with a BeQuiet cooler Shadow Rock TF2 CPU cooler, with an i7 11th gen, in January this year, and is much smaller than that case. Strangely engineered. And I have a RTX 3070 in it and an extra powered USB3 interface PCIe 1x
This is pretty cool that you can put all of this powerful hardware in a small box!!
And then you can put that box in a bunch of foam in a crate. And then you can put that crate in a huuuuge box
Oooh, I have a small form factor PC project and wanted to go all Intel. This might be a good base to start with. Hopefully they have SKUs with Arc video cards.
I would think with as large as this is, they could have gotten close to the full performance of the cpu on desktop. there are small form factor cases around that size that can fit itx boards, and depending on how well you can cool it, they dont lose performance compared to a full desktop
Lol I had a Linus AD in this video. They really know how much Linus is loved here.
It sure has some benefits if you are low on Battlestation estate... but I prefer cases where I can get in up to my elbows and have space working in and for airflow and silence. currently running my 3rd Define XL R2.
I could see newer people after SFF going this route. Building SFF yourself requires a lot of compatibility checking to ensure everything will fit. This makes it so people only need to make sure the GPU will fit.
I'll stick with my Meshlicious though. I have an overclocked 12700k and 3080ti in that thing and it isn't any louder than most standard sized builds.
Smaller form factors are definitely more and more appealing to me. We have a 10 month old and I'm trying to reduce my footprint in the house, but like the idea of having some good power. Not sure if this exact model would be the one, but it's inspiring
I wish you luck!
Fractal Node 202 is a good mainstay for a console-sized PC
My PC is not much bigger (NR200P) and has a 4090 inside...with a 280mm AIO for a High-End CPU (5800X3D in my case)
Would love to see what an i5 and 3060 would do. Replacement for console would be nice.
well, there is a model with an i7 12700H and A770M that should give a slightly better performance to the one you are asking, being way smaller than this one.
There are SFF PC cases for an i5 + 3060 that are half size, literally. Also half the cost.
@@javiej the smallet you can get for that is an Mini ITX, but the most common "gaming" Nucs are even smaller than Mini ITX. You are right with the cost issue though, these little machines always have been kinda expensive compared to what can you get at that price.
@@Just_An_Ignacio Yes by my point is: if you only want i5+3060 performance this NUC is much bigger than needed. You can do that with a small ITX case like the NZXT H1 V2 (405 x 196 x 196 mm) which is much smaller and cheaper. Or you could use an even smaller NUC (as you mentioned ) such as the previous NUC 12th extreme, which is even smaller than the H1 (but more expensive). Both options can accommodate up to a 3080 no problem. So then what is the point of this new design? if it is bigger than previous model you would expect going for bigger GPUs than the 3080, but it can't. Because the 4080 does not fit in this new design. So in terms of SFF value this model is bigger than the previous model for no useful reason.
Brain is stupid- "The ram is SoDIMM" "How dim was it?"
OK.. You can still build a smaller build in a NZXT H1 v2 that is smaller and has more cooling than this or am I wrong ?
This reminds me of the threadeipper pelican case you got in 2017 and the x99 blue thing linus got
I think I prefer a mini ITX build in something like the Coolermaster NR200 over this since that'll be cheaper and able to use more standard components while really not being much larger at all.
Curious if the 13900k would be all that much more worth than the 13600k considering the power limit. could be interesting to see the i5 version.
Doubtful
Not sure. It's functionally almost the same CPU besides core count
No, I would 100% get a 13600k or 13700k instead with it.
At the first zoom out I expected to see Phil or Nic nodding their heads in agreement
Bare bones were what you got from Fry's and had to return like 4 times to get functioning components. . . Oh the days of reliable hardware in the late 90's and early 00's.
I love NUCs, and this looks like a great one.
I wonder though, if the 13900k is so hamstrung by power delivery like that, would the 13700k even perform any worse? It makes me think it's more like laptop GPUs, where the wattage is often more important than the model number of the card (130W 3070 vs 90W 3080, for example). The 13700k should have no problems taking advantage of even the "boosted" 160W in this unit.
I'd love to see a server option for this with ecc support enabled.
watching this again, and having a rtx 4080 FE (don't hate me) I could reasonably water-cool both the CPU and GPU in that case using slim Rads, 120mm rad up top, 240mm-360mm on the bottom, or maybe a vertical 240 with some slim fans where the Foxconn fans are. This generation NUC Extreme is kind of cool in my opinion. The RX7900 XT/XTX would be beast in there!
Impressive performance considering the size. My case is probably 5x bigger, and only offers 20% or so more performance (though probably better acoustics) with my current parts. That's no issue at all if one has the space for it though.
7:05 Magical disappearing system to go with the magical Intel sounds? Lol
@JayzTwoCents... if you have GeForce experience installed for the 3080, you can adjust the fan by pressing (Alt+z) and choosing the performance menu.
If I wanted Intel, that would be pretty awesome. Very thoughtful design and set up.
the air flow design of this big vented box seems very ell thought through.
a 13600K would make much more sense in this
First pc I built was from a barebones kit but it was not assembled and came with a graphics card that wasn't great but good enough. Had to get ram instead of the graphics. Was amd black edition everything. The mother board still looks better then most made today
I had Shuttle SN-something way back when. Loved that case! Now I have a CM NR200... but I wish it would support two 280 radiators... Maybe I should have picked a Loque (Loki) Ghost? And two 280's because of NZXT Kraken G12.
This box is like a loot box from Warzone with sound 😂
I can't run modern warfare hardly on my potato. Had a new computer in Amazon set up for very long time, up dated recently to ddr5. My current pc in a 2500k intel 7900hd amd. Life happens and has been pushing it back. 😮💨
It'll probably help people with limited space, and or who are looking for the small pc aesthetic? It seems like a well made project, it's very promising
Jay you have to uncheck Balanced Enabled to modify the settings. Its kind of a "safeguard" of sorts.
If there is an extra fan connector you could mount a 90mm fan on the CPU fan black, not ? With magnets is should hold on the CPU fins on the left side of the compute element.
I got the Canvas 27Q monitor when there was a major sale and I think they're pretty good. Are there better IPS panels out there sure but for the price I got this monitor at it was a steal.
The NUC 13 is pretty neat, and cooler than I thought, but depending on the price and the lack of upgrade/replacement ability on the "motherboard" make me nervous.
However, I would like to see a skinny and slightly taller form facor like the H1 with a top mounted exhaust fan similarly to the series x. But with a NUC motherboard and a riser cable that would give more room for a slightly higher wattage psu and aio liquid cooler (240/360) depending on how highly spec'd the CPU is and how tall the case needs to be to squeeze a 4080 in it :D
Also compared to the NUC's cables sticking straight out the back, the H1's bottom/back routed cables gives a cleaner/sleeker look when sitting on the side of the desk next to the monitors.
I would consider it if a 1000w psu was available and the price was about the same as an equivalent tower. If want a smaller form factor, at this point its going to be looking at portable pc like the steam deck.
It would be really interesting to see this with a i7 or i5 to see if it's just the i9 maxxing it out or it's limited on those as well.
The Amazon links in the description seem to just go to the Amazon homepage.
This is an awesome powerful mini tower. A friend of mine has one.
Would you know when it’s coming out? The description says it’s on Amazon, but it’s not and I can’t find it anywhere. Thank you
Good home theater PC/VR rig, I would think. That is what I would use it for.
I love the idea of so much power taking up exactly the amount of space needed and not a bit more. I can't explain why this is so satisfying, I just know that I want more sff builds.
Come to the dark side of SFF! Our PCs are small, our performance are high, but so are our temps and fan speeds
As someone who has a FormD T1, 5950x and a 3080 Ftw3, I can say that SFF PCs are a blast. But a pain in the ass to build lol.
Imagine building a small form factor just to run a 13900k at almost half clock speeds... I don't see how its so satisfying to see a pc overheat, throttle down, and pay more than regular atx builds...
@@ScubaMotos that specific PC isn't a good example, but as someone who's running a Lian Li Q58 with an i7 10700 and a 6700XT under water that never goes over 70C on the CPU and 65 on the GPU with only a 240mm radiator, I'm telling you it's worth it. My PC isn't impressive in specs, but the case isn't maxed out. A 280mm would fit, and with a bit better fans you could easily fit a 5800x3d and 6950XT in there without issues.
@@ScubaMotos yeah this isn't a good mini itx build. The build I mentioned in my other comment runs great at full spec. It's when manufactures smash stuff together to much that you lose performance. Custom mini itx doesn't usually have this issue.
I prefer the sff type stuff mini itx I can't see going back to full size or even matx all you need anymore is a single pcie slot that's found on most itx boards everything else is on board only reason for bigger builds is to oc and have that extra space for custom loop and bling
Damn I wish I could afford this, but when Jay said it’s gonna be pricey I already know it’s out of my price range. It’s legit the perfect pc I need for travel. Maybe someday…
You can start a build with midrange parts and case! Check out the SFFPC subreddit for inspiration & ideas
I second what Ezanee said. I built an SFFPC with guidance from that sub. Full desktop power and fits in a carry on with room for lots of padding and cables
@@jesh879 hey thanks! Yeah. I built a PC for carrying to work & travel, not the latest & greatest but within my means. Important to not get a case of FOMO when it comes to parts too. Can always upgrade if opportunity presents itself.
I love the Fibonacci spirals under the first panel
I'd totaly use some of these for work, I see the SKU some places but out of stock.
Still remember my firet barebone, the shuttle pc with a barton 2600+ mobile..
Hi Jay. At 12:52 when you tried to max out the timer window, if you try to change the dynamic power setting (wich is on Energy Efficient Mode), can you change the time window then?
I'm definitely interested. Not for gaming, but for less-demanding peak-performance DAW / Music creation application.
Thank goodness Jay's voice is here to sing me to relaxation
I'd love Jay to sing me a lullaby. He's an angel 🤣
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For something that big I'd rather go with an ITX build on the Dan-A4-H2O.
The NUC was more about portability, so the "Enthusiast" is a better option than the "Extreme".
So powerful the shipping case has crashed and is stuck in a boot loop. hundreds of years from now this shipping case will still be giving off this strange mystic sound that must be ceremonial.
Hey, Jay!;
Man, you so NEED a pinwheel on a stick or a straw.
You hold it in the airflow to demonstrate how much air a fan/device moves.
I know, you've always got a paper towel or other paper you can use.
But a pinwheel is cheap, it works pretty good for showing airflow, & it's fun, too!
Have a GREAT day, Neighbor!
The early NUC's all made that sound when you opened the box.