What’s a good time for appendix? I just started this drill a few days ago and my best time was 2:34. Felt like that was good but my draw was killing the time. Splits are .20 ish and draw was around 1.3-1.4.
Thank you for explaining the values of the "Bill Drill". Could you please dive little bit more into the how you apply the force when gripping the gun? Especially the support hand. What do you focus more? Side to side pressure, front-back, etc... Thank you very much.
I've pretty much mastered this with my semi autos I still can't break 2 seconds with my revolver, and I've lightened my trigger pull to 6 pounds from 14. Any tips?
Ben, I’m a decent shooter, precise accuracy is pretty easy for me. I struggle to shoot fast though. The fastest clean Bill drill I can run is around 2.5 (I’m also using a retention holster level 2) my splits are around .20-.22. How do I go faster and maintain A Zone or -0 area hits? Some tips on that would be awesome.
Since no one answered here I'll give you what I tell my students: 1. Most people over grip with the firing hand and undergrip with the support hand. Squeezing anything more than a firm business handshake on the firing hand tends to lock up your trigger finger slowing you down. 2. Be sure you are resetting the trigger during the recoil cycle of the gun instead of pinning it to the rear and holding the gun back. JJ Racaza and John Lovell both have good videos on this. Probably the most important tip right here. 3. Your signal to shoot again is not a perfect reconfirmation of the sight, it's seeing the color of the sight cross into your fine area of focus on the target. Hope this helps!
@@christopherg2218 Thank you, I've been working on it the last few months and have gotten to an avg of 1.94, with some in the 1.7 to 1.8 area. Now I need to focus on relaxing when i'm trying to pick up speed. I've found I get very tense sometimes and it slows me down a lot.
When you say "shoot aggressively" how do you quantify that? Would it be different if the target were say the upper A vs the lower A? Do trigger styles matter e.g., striker fired vs. DA/SA vs. SAO?
Any suggestions for adapting this for pocket carry revolver guys like me? I carry a 7 shot 22mag SW351C and an 8 shot 357mag SW327PC. Both are pocket carry. That greatly slows down the draw compared with appendix semi’s but it’s my preference. Thanks!
I was always taught that the classic Bill Drill was 6 rounds in 6 seconds from the holster against an NRA 25 yard B8 repair center - a somewhatand notably smaller target than an IPSC A zone target. Anything out of the black was a failure for the entire drill. The purpose of the smaller target is that the Drill is fired in the absence of any real level of adrenaline. By developing the ability to keep your shots in the black on a B8, IF you have to defend yourself and the adrenaline is flowing, your group will open up but not so much that you miss and endanger innicents.
What’s more surprising - seeing Ben shoot a Glock, or Kanye running for president? Ben is your grip significantly different on a glock as opposed to guns you’ve competed with in the past? And how do you like it comparatively?
Grip is what I struggle with the most!
This new channel is priceless.
straight forward. no nonsense. been working on my grip for a few months now. great vid!
Nice and straight forward.
Ran this last night and worked out where I was gripping wrong with support hand. Man, this is a good drill!
Going to try this today.
Thank you, I have tried this drill because everyone talks about it, but I had no idea what I was supposed to get from it
Perfect.
Thanks for the explanation. Cool shirt BTW. Would like to know were you got it.
The man 🔥🇺🇸
Amazing
Six rounds at full battle speed tests my grip every time.
What’s a good time for appendix? I just started this drill a few days ago and my best time was 2:34. Felt like that was good but my draw was killing the time. Splits are .20 ish and draw was around 1.3-1.4.
Do you reload as well! Thanks for doing all this for,us mortals.
Where can I get that shirt?
I need that shirt!
Good stuff
Appreciate it
Thank you for explaining the values of the "Bill Drill". Could you please dive little bit more into the how you apply the force when gripping the gun? Especially the support hand. What do you focus more? Side to side pressure, front-back, etc... Thank you very much.
There is a lot to this and we will cover some of it in future videos.
I've pretty much mastered this with my semi autos I still can't break 2 seconds with my revolver, and I've lightened my trigger pull to 6 pounds from 14. Any tips?
I know a Dr. Disrespect t-shirt when I see one!
Please share how you pack for a match you're flying to.
This would be a good topic.. thanks
Ben, I’m a decent shooter, precise accuracy is pretty easy for me. I struggle to shoot fast though. The fastest clean Bill drill I can run is around 2.5 (I’m also using a retention holster level 2) my splits are around .20-.22. How do I go faster and maintain A Zone or -0 area hits? Some tips on that would be awesome.
Since no one answered here I'll give you what I tell my students:
1. Most people over grip with the firing hand and undergrip with the support hand. Squeezing anything more than a firm business handshake on the firing hand tends to lock up your trigger finger slowing you down.
2. Be sure you are resetting the trigger during the recoil cycle of the gun instead of pinning it to the rear and holding the gun back. JJ Racaza and John Lovell both have good videos on this. Probably the most important tip right here.
3. Your signal to shoot again is not a perfect reconfirmation of the sight, it's seeing the color of the sight cross into your fine area of focus on the target. Hope this helps!
@@christopherg2218 Thank you, I've been working on it the last few months and have gotten to an avg of 1.94, with some in the 1.7 to 1.8 area. Now I need to focus on relaxing when i'm trying to pick up speed. I've found I get very tense sometimes and it slows me down a lot.
@@bvbell5244Good work man! That's some good improvement
A video briefly explaining the scoring system for non-USPSA people.
When you say "shoot aggressively" how do you quantify that? Would it be different if the target were say the upper A vs the lower A? Do trigger styles matter e.g., striker fired vs. DA/SA vs. SAO?
What is your advice for getting a proper grip on the pistol?
Good question. We will address it in the future.
Man, 1 shot draws were the biggest waste of ammo when I first started.
Followed you for a couple of years. Explain HOW to use so much pressure with your support hand that
That you are able to pull skin off your knuckles
Any suggestions for adapting this for pocket carry revolver guys like me? I carry a 7 shot 22mag SW351C and an 8 shot 357mag SW327PC.
Both are pocket carry. That greatly slows down the draw compared with appendix semi’s but it’s my preference. Thanks!
Ditch pocket carry as it is suboptimal at best and useless at worse.
I was always taught that the classic Bill Drill was 6 rounds in 6 seconds from the holster against an NRA 25 yard B8 repair center - a somewhatand notably smaller target than an IPSC A zone target. Anything out of the black was a failure for the entire drill.
The purpose of the smaller target is that the Drill is fired in the absence of any real level of adrenaline. By developing the ability to keep your shots in the black on a B8, IF you have to defend yourself and the adrenaline is flowing, your group will open up but not so much that you miss and endanger innicents.
What’s more surprising - seeing Ben shoot a Glock, or Kanye running for president?
Ben is your grip significantly different on a glock as opposed to guns you’ve competed with in the past? And how do you like it comparatively?
Ben will likely do a video in the future on this topic.
If you’re drawing from cover you’ll need to add a second to clear your shirt and establish your grip.
0.5🎉
There are plenty of people out there with sub-second draws from deep carry. Go faster.
fuck I'm slow - I aim for 2.5