Yellowstone is using 'thirsty' concrete that absorbs 50 gallons of water a minute
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- Опубликовано: 22 окт 2016
- A brilliant new creation is helping one of the best preserved places in the world. Yellowstone National Park has begun to use porous, or thirsty, concrete in walkways throughout their park. The new concrete, called Flexi-Pave, is made with stones and recycled tires, and Michelin has been helping them install it all over the park.
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absorb ? you mean pass right through ?
what sounds better...
Aleron Adams RIP English am I right?
was thinking the same thing. 30 gallons/hour would make it swell up.. well, like a "30 gallons of water + pavement volume"-sponge...
It doesn't absorb 100% of the water you 2nd world filthy peasant.
PowderBoy Calm down bud
pretty sure that concrete isn't going to do anything against the supervolcano
张新驰 Eh it probably won't blow for a while, though it is over due by a few hundred years.
张新驰 there's nothing we can do to prevent it from erupting
Satyam Patel its preventable
unachievable by modern tech
Why can't we just put a giant plug on it?🙃
if that shit catches fire it's gonna be a wall of flames
John Smith STANDING IN THE WALL OF FLAMES
AND THE WORLD’S GONNA BE ABLAZE
LOL Need I Need the Full Lyrics
Then the fire nation attacked
Literally, one day, that park gonna blow up
Lmao everyone in the comments is suddenly a scientist and act like they know better
At least I get to learn lmao
I am a scientists. These things r ruining ecosystems
for once, the commenters are right tho, this shit doesnt work
Cat photo.
Ikr (-_-;)
So playground material?
Brandon probably a bit too rough
Brandon the playground i go to has floors that are hard as hell
Brandon right it's exactly what it is
Haha that's the perfect description for it and nobody actually knows the real name but knew exactly what you were talking about
Unfamiliar s i turf right?
I thought the Concrete was gonna ask me for Nudes
XD
good one
LOL
Head Case it's called thirsty concrete not desperate concrete...
hot darm, and now Head Case wil be needing more than 3000 gallons of water to recover from that burn XD
PLOT TWIST people are going to waste even more water by pouring it on the concrete and watch it absorb
Plot twist : The US scientists invent a concrete which can absorb water while people in Africa suffer from drought and famine
But water is unlimited.. nvm
More water for the geysers then
what if a dog peed on the thirsty concrete would it stain or smell
sorry agus 3 yes
S O dummy you can't just say yes
the real question
Why a dog? Does that mean I can't pee on the road anymore :(
People lika you are the real geniuses of this century , nothing but respect for you man
isn't there a lot of toxins in the material that is in turn caught by the water? what are the long term research and results on the wear and tear from the water flowing through the material? are there any articles?
Zoey No
Zoey possibly, but normal cement is a lot worse...
AuthenticDoom you think water flowing on concrete will collect more toxins than water flowing in concrete?
MischievousMoo yes, when it rains the water is cleaner if it were to filter through the ground, normal concrete it would just run along and collect even more toxins. This applies to cities especially where the water can't escape anywhere but the drains, which lead directly to rivers
MischievousMoo when you get proved wrong through simple logic that you couldn't figure out yourself
If it absorbs water, why does is fall through?
it doesnt absorb 100% of water
it probably doesnt absorb any.. (if we neglect the tiny amount of the binder). Water just passes through, no absorbance here - please move along, nothing to see here :)
Pruz Gaming If it was regular concrete the water would just be on top and out to the grass or surroundings. This road "absorbs" the water and it flows down the road to another area instead of the excess water being wasted by evaporation.
Pruz Gaming so it can flow through to the channels underneath and get recycled dumb ass.
Pruz Gaming Bacause of gravity?
" Absorb "
*Pours water onto cement*
*Water just goes through cement and is not absorbed*
Seems legit
Jeffrey C totally legit
Adsorb is an actual term
Lol
If below the "Thirsty Conrete" is a Ground/dirt, probably will absorb the liquid
Jeffrey C some of it was absorbed
Why did they want to take a picture with the marshmallow man
Who wouldn't
lol the tires they use in the gravel is sponsored by them.
Wouldn't the water from regular roads just flow onto the grass and go back into the ground anyway?
BoBo Field yea but it has runoff which is bad
Yeah, but these are modern times...
It doesn't matter if the end result is exactly the same as something we have already. As long as they throw in a few buzzwords (Simple, eco, environmentally friendly, natural, recyclable) they'll be able to make a bit of money form it.
How do you think Microsoft keeps making money...
They remove features from an OS, dumbing it down, and call it 'Simple'. People pay more for less.
No, most of the water would collect in pools on the tarmac and then evaporate because of the heat buildup on the tarmac from direct sunlight.
This problem would become exponentially worse with age as the road sinks where people and vehicles are present the most.
+Paul Johnson my work has thirsty concrete on part of the parking lot. It worked amazing barely after it's installation. after a couple years of not being preventing it from clogging up, it's just way worse off now. Long as it gets maintained and keeps it's ability to let water through, it should be fine
Only if the roads are build with hollows.
Does the freeway/motorway get covered with pools of water every time it rains, or does it drain off?
So now all the rain water can be filtered through tar and tires before it gets returned into the Eco system!
that's what we call progress 🖒
W0LFM4N so basically what you're saying is there's already a ton of other shity things going on in the world so why care about another one?
Insidious589 My thoughts exactly. ... doesn't take a scientist to know that what they did is more harm than good... whoever was behind the idea doesn't give a shit about the environment...
Kagu Sohma actually it does take a scientist and I'm sure they thought about that.
Kagu Sohma you're an idiot
when i wear ripped jeans my legs look like michelin
lmaooooooooo
I bet animals love drinking old tire and tar water
Or just you don't use concrete at all in a place like this.
Zoltán Boros Damnit that's too simple!
Zoltán Boros Yellowstone has many dangerous areas to walk in. The pathways make those areas accessible.
@Zach Jezek Or people could just stay the fuck out of those areas.
Zach Jezek why the fuck must there be pathways? If you can't hold your own fuck off. It's fucking ridiculous what we're doing to "wild" national parks.
Net_Chix_AnKill? Exactly.
Still not as thirsty as my ex
Its not really absorbing anything if the water just runs straight through it...
The Dank Memeist holy Gabe
The Dank Memeist
Yas
Classic no that's percolation. Absorption is going into it and being held there. Sponges are absorbent because the water enters and is held in there until you wring it out.
If this was used then the streets will be a jungle because the roots and plants can go through the concrete
It is only used on Yellowstone, however, what you said may become true if they actually planted tree seeds into the ground
"absorbs".
passes through. havent watched the vid yet so i dont comment lol :D
ok now i watched the vid. the idea seems much dumber now.
1. americans don't seem to know what absorb means
2. it doesn't do anything to the water distribution unless you have big parking lots or cover large areas of land in other ways. if water comes on a pathway that isn't permiable it will just flow off and eventually hit the dirt/ground or small waterpits will evaporate which will have little to no effect.
3. the chemicals in the binding agent as well as the chemicals released when exposed to solar light as well as the chemicals released from other ways of decomposition from the rubber or binding agent is probably not very good for the "delicate enviroment"
4. i think michelin just wanted to get rid of some tyres lol
Endjo agree
People are so stupid
Doesn’t absorb all of the water dumbass
I know what absorb means and im American...
The key to using any type of permeable surface is the ability of the underlying soil to actually infiltrate the rainfall which moves through the permeable surface. if the underlying soils do not infiltrate the rainfall, then there is not much difference between permeable surfaces and standard pavement. As far as freeze/thaw cycles, this also depends on the soil under the permeable material to be very well drained so that the soil under the surface stays in an unsaturated condition. If there is no water in the soil below the surface, then there will be no issue with freezing and potential frost heaves. (Civil Engineer with a lot of experience with stormwater management)
Steven Trinkaus well said but its the rainfall that infiltrates the soil,not the other way around
Hell yeah let's put recycled rubber tire all over our national park that sounds like a really environmentally good idea thanks Michelin knocked another one out of the park
The Netherlands use this for the highways, the call it ZOAB, Very open asphalt concrete.
Wait then wouldn’t it be called VOAC
and what about the particles of plastic from the tires that wont decompose and then drain into the "delicate ecosystem"?
Adam Jaster I see what you are trying to say but plastic doesn't decompose
Karan Chawla plastic does photodegrade
How long does plastic take to photodegrade now?
thewickets1 it does VERY VERY slowly
Loopywalker takes i think millions of years
I totally get how a "thirsty concrete" could be useful in some circumstances, but claiming that it will help maintain the Yellowstone ecosystem by putting the water back into the aquifer just doesn't make any sense. The water would just evaporate or spill off the edge of normal concrete, putting the water back into the aquifer as well. Just doesn't make sense...
Jay Rowberry - Agreed!
My thought exactly. This is just some hair brained feel good nonsense.
Jay Rowberry, I totally agree. the idea of thirsty concrete is great for when you have a large expanse of concrete, like a parking lot which blocks water from entering the groom's, but it's pretty pointless on a path 2m wide where water just wanted over the sides anyway.
But the whole point is that its made from recycled tires
What it's probably doing is reducing the water shed off those walk ways to get the water to the ground faster. Notice how it distributes down in a showering pattern below? One of the biggest problems with water on concrete is that it directs the water more into a stream that erodes around walkways quickly and prevents water from reaching the ground quickly to be absorbed or shed naturally. Instead what happens is if there's enough of it in an area you wind up with flash flood situations and water leaves the area too fast to be useful.
Depending on how many walkways this place has part of the goal must be to get the water to the ground and prevent the walkways from becoming eroded drainage areas that direct water away from the park and instead let it drain more naturally into the ground.
I'm not sure they necessarily needed to make it from old tires, but I can see the practical point of it to reduce water shed out of the park.
I love these kind of comments on these videos basically pointing out the cons of the video.
*walks around yellow stone "DANG GIRL LEMME GETYO NUMBER"
Boi she toxic
Won't this make the ground underneath the concrete erode faster which will make big holes which will broke the concrete at some of its points because it doesn't have enough ground underneath to support it?
Wendy Wirawan well I think the concrete will just sag and keep falling. It's made of rubber so it's probably got some flex...
then it gets cold and the water freezes and cracks it
I like how this video isn't about what needs to be done to help the ecosystem in yellow stone, but what is being done.
I'm thirsty for a glass of water now...
Aside from everything else, considering how porous it is, if it were to rain and it would freeze into ice, wouldn't that practically weaken this "thirsty concrete" dramatically every winter? If the ice melts, it can "absorb" it. However, just like any other rock in nature, it will eventually break down. And when it does break down, this leftover-tire plastic won't do this "delicate" environment any good.
ΚΛΣ The rocks will break down, eventually because of the weathering by the water, but I think that that'd take a "long ass time" to accomplish, and the rubber could just be ripped up, ground and mixed again.
Ethan Peters It can be ripped back up, but that still isn't very efficient is it? It's much better than the concrete pathways in one way or another, so I'm not complaining, but if it has to be eventually ripped back up and redone/reapplied only for that cycle to repeat again, it's really not at it's full potential, or it's full efficiency. However, it's the most efficient thing we have as of right now, so I'm not really trying to complain.
+ΚΛΣ It's made out of rubber, its flexible, so it won't break. It won't erode any time soon.
Squiddi And rubber dries out in 3-5 years. Then it begins to crack. Even if this is some sort of incredible industrial rubber, it will still crack in about a decade, I am guessing. All rubber cracks when they are not properly lubricated
S.M.P Are you comparing the rubber on vehicles to this stationary rubber?
I feel like this could have unintended consequences considering the materials tires are made from over the years probably might break down and leech into the water sources for this ecosystem...but at the same time im no expert on the subject
Alicia Ruiz more thank likely yes tiny bits and pieces will more thank likely start to break off after its first winter and summer.
It's not absorbing it's just keeping the water from pooling by spreading
they must have been really
tired
stop
Plz no more.
In the Netherlands we call it ZOAP.
*ZOAB Zeer Open Asfalt Beton
Frits Blankenzee hahaha
They should make one that absorbs lava
In Yellowstone there is NO lava in less your talking about something else
They could use the lava to make roads dams and rivers.
when i went to Yellowstone a few years ago all those walk ways where falling apart it was amazing you where allowed on them
50 gallons of water vs one thirsty boi
The rangers: We have finally finished installing thirsty concrete around every gyser!
Yellowstone: lol get rekt *blows up, destroying humanity*
what happens when it clogs with dirt and sand after a month?
wait for acid rain or something
Also what Happens when someone sprays flex seal on it
Rotated Now THATS ALOTTA DAMAGE
The rain would filter through the dirt
Water flows through dirt and sand
do you know how deep the earths crust is? it'll just create a water reserve and if it deepens it'll just evaporate from the heat
This is great who ever did this, thank you
Hats off to this awesome invention. Very nice
Too bad tires a fucking toxic. Remember the time when they thrown tires at the sea expecting it'll become a coral reef? They got an underwater tire desert instead.
Kevinacho Murillo
Wait, who the fuck.
"We were the material of choice because of the zero environmental impact that we have," Bagnall tells Business Insider.
Kevinacho Murillo
Ikr
What I worry about is what'll happen to the water as it continuously filters through the rubber and possibly picks up toxins and little bits and pieces of it over time...
this seems wrong. the net water is not going to significantly change. the regular pavement would just run the water to the side of the trail and a few feet of water displacement will make zero difference to the environment.
meanwhile the tires are full of toxic chemicals which will gradually leech from all that water passing over so much surface area.
further, in material this porous you are going to get seed and root penetration ln which is going to tear it apart.
I think they blew it here.
Paved surfaces causes erosion when water runs off the edge of a pathway during storms, releasing additional sediment into nearby water streams.
Gravel surfaces also cause erosion.
The best option for developed "touristy" trails is porous thirsty concrete, followed by gravel in less touristy trails, and dirt trails for other regular and/or remote trails.
(My experience: I know this as an avid professional hiker who's very familiar with trail building, environmental practices, forest ecosystems, and the like. I've hiked on all sorts of trail surfaces,-even off trail in remote regions (don't do this unless you're experienced with GPS and/or map and compass, however, and it isn't in sensitive, illegal, or dangerous locations.).)
lovely to see some real environmental engagement in a country full of wasters and polluters. absoluteley lovely, keep it up!
WE NEEDED THIS IN FLORIDA AND HOUSTON
Solar freakin thirsty concrete LED hyperloop walkways!
a skater's wet dream
Leslie Knope sure has made some big strides, thank you Leslie.
Good job mates love seeing things like this happen!!!
to the people who think that that the water would just evaporate off, first of all, concrete absorbs moisture. (its how it gets so strong). And the water thats left there would have trace chemicals which are bad for that ecosystem.
i mean do u think that they would spend so much money without researching it first?
Yes because a certain percent of that money ends up in someones pocket. And since you are an expert what trace chemicals does this new concrete have that wont disturb the eco system?
snoopy A poods The material is made from a mix of used tires as well as bits of stone. The aggregate is held together with a polymer binder invented by Flexi-Pave manufacturer KBI, a partner along with Michelin on the project. And because the material becomes inert after its manufactured, no toxins leach into the soil as the rainwater flows through it.
they stole the money for it why would they care
I like how you think chemicals won't affect the environment. Its quite cute.
It will help preserve it
At least until the supervolcano erupts
This place fascinates me
One of our country's greatest sites of creation? Agreed. :)
what if someone spills oil?
paolo volpe then we die
LOL! "Rain water and melted snow" because if water froze while going through the expansion would destroy it, hope yellowstone doesn't exeperience real winters
Like it does to regular roads?
Bro you act like youre a scientist with actual knowledge...
Its actually high scholl physics
Bbianchi
That spelling is like young children’s spelling and grammar
Same with you Johnson Tang
Bbianchi no it is 6th grade science
I went to Canberra in Australia for my school camp. When we went to eat and have a rest we went on the balcony and where I sat was like the concrete in this video. One of my friends "accidentally"poured a bit of her water in her bottle on the stone chair. Since we did that we sat on the floor about two in a half minutes later the water was absorbed and we we're like whatttt so we wanted to put more water on it. Lucky we weren't in trouble hehe
Love you Yellowstone
theres poor africans dying of thirst and your giving slab of concrete 50 gallons of water
children in africa could have eaten that concrete
SHOTS FIRED
Punk Tattoo Guy take it easy it a joke
thanks for the chuckle, chummley
Oh shit! Its punk tattoo guy! APS baby!
this is great, love the national parks out west!
My college used this pavement because the rubber mixed in made the asphalt easier on the knees. I think it's ability to wick away water was discovered as a useful side effect.
and it all goes boom..
Hey its rice krispy treats
If you fall on it will you get injured worse than normal concrete?
the emperor123
No, it is not softer either
Love this idea
Does it have a slight bounce to it when you walk on it? I know it says it can withstand freezing temps better than other thirsty concretes, but for how long would it hold up to ice expansion in the winter?
What if someone drops slippery acid 🧐🤔
Aguminatii magic
It goes through
Is it volcano proof?
What the fuck do you think?
Yes, of course! Let's start making out buildings out of tires!
It also feels more comfortable to walk on than the old asphalt they use on older parts of the trails. More shock absorption
This is amazing
I seem to be missing the point of this.
To recharge the groundwater table
Congratulations at filling the local water supply with toxic crap
getl0st ah don't worry it's only in a national park only animals will have to deal with the possible toxic soup that will form eventually.
Mr Fisher ur comment was sarcastically dumb
like that shit won't get filtered at all
Shut yo bitch mouth
If water contacts rubber or plastic it doesn't go toxic.
so how would it work if the water gets frozen beneath? does it stretch or break up even more than concrete?
what is the average permeability of this stone. and is this water wet or not ?
it can drain lava too???
It's Porous Concrete! Bloody hell these names are pathetic!
Porous conecrete sounds equally as stupid.
adamsrealm it's called permeable surface._.
this is brilliant!!!
one of the best invention
ok lets see.. youre burying tires at yellowstone.. why
i just wish that thirsty concrete will be used for all of the roads everywhere in the world
Joyce Yaba it can't be applied to cold areas, if the water were to freeze in the concrete it'd be ruined. Lol (So basically useless in Canada and USA)
but isn't yellowstone in the USA which is where they are doing this project in?
Joyce Yaba in Africa
snoopy A poods yeah that's really it, California it doesn't rain much (West Coast) and the east coast tends to get too cold besides Florida
Ilia Vakhitov but it doesn't rain lul
So my childhood playgrounds swing set filling? Lol they make it sound revolutionary
That concrete is thirsty?
Im all up for it, concrete. I'm ready
I will NEVER understand why people keep going to Yellowstone knowing there's a huge volcano under it. To all those tourists, I have only one thing to say: "Have fun being RIGHT ON TOP of a volcano when it erupts!" Very smart decision!
Trainfan1055 because it is a beautiful landmark and it will take years before the volcano even erupts. Also there will be signs that it will erupt, warning everyone says before it will actually erupt
Lmao that was such a moronic remark on so many levels. First off, the national park itself is beautiful. No one knows when the volcano is going to erupt, and it probably won't any time soon, so it's pretty much out of the question. The volcano itself may even be dormant. Also, they're not standing on top of the damn volcano...
No one is letting a highly improbably event such as a damn volcanic eruption ruin an awe inspiring trip, get real dude.
Well to me, it makes sense to stay as far away from something that dangerous as possible.
Trainfan1055 Like a train? If you were to somehow be hit by a train, you are most certainly dead.
Okay, look, I am terrified of volcanoes. I always have been ever since I was a kid. That is why I can't imagine going anywhere near one.
I live in the UK -_- not ''our country''
The Legend 27 they were talking about themselves as a nation
Same
I am from the slavic regions. Does it even matter?
The Legend 27 then don't watch it
NightRiderGost Everything changed when the fire nation attacked.
how is a path 6 feet wide keeping water from going back into the ground? cant it run to the sides and then go down?
What happens during heavy rain/snowfall? will the pathways flood easier than with normal concrete? great idea either way.
Is it just me that thinks this will cause sinkholes
Does it hold the redt in for actual reasons or just tp do it??
What if it then gets really cold does it freeze and expand inside the concrete?
Dang that rock is hella thirsty
Would this be better material for my driveway at the house? Normal suburb house.
How big are these walkways that the run off from them doesn't return the water to the aquifer? I'm thinking a gentle slope on the the walk ways would accomplish the same thing.
What percentage of the area will be covered by this material? Fraction of a percent?
I've walked on it at Yellowstone. It has a comfortable soft feel on your feet. Not slippery.
So, how did this get past the EPA? To use tires instead of things suck as , gravel or chip sealing?
What about the base layer underneath that is meant to support the pavement? It won't erode away making an unstable pavement?
Thank you so much for your service Michelin. Yellowstone would be a total cesspool without your sacrifices
I need to know, wouldn't the ground underneath the concrete soon give way or move?